The Bears Den: November 10th, 2010 Edition
by Kev H on Nov 10, 2010 7:38 AM CST
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Toub would take over Bears if Lovie were fired - Admit it, you'd sort of think this was dope.
Former Chicago Bear Richard Dent recalls berating offense - My favorite part of this is Waddle's quote.
Streaking/Slumping: Week 9 - Who's up? Who's down? ESPN made some stuff up, check it out!
Moon: Allen, Vikings dangerous for Bears - Moon talks about what could hamper the Bears' progress this week.
NFL releases guide to legal hits - Phew. I'm glad we've got this all cleared up now.
Goodell: Owners, union keep talking 18 games - We'll see how far this goes. It seems like the kind of topic that could really hang your negotiations.
Vikes' Berrian, Rice potential problems for Bears - This is nothing new, Berrian has always been a problem for the Bears. Remember a few years ago when he kept muffing punts?
Vikings say they won't quit despite dislike for Childress - I'm not sure how you can possibly keep someone that your team is actively saying they don't like or respect, but we'll see how it goes.
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So...
when can Toub take over…next week perhaps? Why wait for Lovie to stave off elimination for another season by “guiding” the Bears to another mediocre 8-8 record (plus or minus 1 game). Let Toub get used to holding the reins for the next 2 quarters of the season. Does anyone really believe in Lovie’s long term future, including Lovie?
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
Rex is our QB
Trade Thomas Jones
Hester should primarily be a receiver
We get off the bus running
Tommie Harris
I challenge!
Sideline Smug [or is it the face of sheer stupidity?]
and we’ll go from there…
Of all the assistants
Toub? The special teams coach? Unlikely. Martz or marinelli will be the next bears coach if lovie were let go (he won’t be, the bears aren’t going to eat his 5 mil salary next year and pay another coach a huge salary with a lockout looming large).
by lopey986 on Nov 10, 2010 9:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I disagree with you, think about it....
if they let Lovie go during the season (which I think is a million to one shot anyway) it would be caused in large part to the fans outrage of how badly things are going. If that’s the case, just from a P.R. perspective, how could you put either a guy who is the only 0-16 HC in League history or the offensive guy who is getting your prized QB killed on a regular basis. If Martz were having success, it’s a pretty good bet Lovie isn’t fired anyway.
Toub is the one coach that virtually no fan or media member has an issue with, also, Da Coach was a Special Teams coach with the Cowboys just before being named HC of the Bears, so there is precedent.
Not too go all negative....
Lovie has as much chance of being fired this season as I have of winning the lotto.
We’re 5-3, he’s done just enough, unless we go 5-11. Even if our beloved Bears finish 8-8 (one moment while i throw up)
There’s a lockout looming, the McCheapsky’s are still in charge of the purse strings, and Cutler is still able to stand on his own.
Most of us want regime change in Halas Hall. Be careful what we wish for. The Cheapo owners likely won’t pay to hire the likes of Cowher or Gruden. Parcells would want too much cash to fix us as well. In all likelihood we end up with up and comers who work for food and such. I don’t recall in my lifetime the Bears ever spending the money to get the best coaches available. Just sayin’.
BTW – Happy Birthday to my beloved Corps – Semper Fi !!!!
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 10, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I recall hearing talk of some of the younger members of the board wanting Cowher last year.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
They aren't cheap
they just tend to reward the wrong players. Don’t the Bears have like the 5th highest payroll, even before the Peppers signing?
Last year
They were the 5th most spendy franchise (120mil) on payroll. I don’t have a link here (work), but it’s saved on my home computer.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
Coach's Salaries don't go towards the payroll number.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 11, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
You are correct, sir!
2009 payroll list.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'"
I agree completely, like I said "a million to one shot" but the article was based on a hypothetical scenario.
I think we need a change though, no matter who comes in, as long as they are solid football guys. I still would like to see Jim Harbaugh as the HC and possibly one of Bill Polien’s protege’s as a GM. There are no guarantees but at least we’d have hope. I think this current group offers no real hope at all, even if we make the playoffs.
I said it before the season began, to me it’s either Super Bowl champs or nothing for Lovie/Angelo to keep their jobs. Anything else would just be a continuation of the last 18 years.
So you're saying there's a chance....
a million to one shot
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Could also be a reference to Pratchet.
Or it could just be trying to be funny. But that really can’t happen without making a pop culture reference, can it?
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
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by Robert Rence on Nov 10, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
I just happened to watch "D&D" the other morning
for like the gazillionth time so it was fresh on my mind.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
there's always a chance.....
do you think lighting candles in a church would help, I have a lot of matches……
Wonder how Toub would look in a 'stache?
Um…never mind.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
I support the bears with all
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 10, 2010 10:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I support the bears with all my heart
If love is our coach I support him right now as well.
We are 5-3 and one game behind the beat record in. The league….. Think about that.
This schedule is not as scary to me
Jets and pats both look beatable and we have them at home so I feel good.
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 10, 2010 10:03 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Agree completely...
I am happy to see the Bears go 10-6 or 11-5 and make the playoffs and see what happens from there, that’s implicit in being a fan. My concern is that Lovie (and JA) continues to hold this team to mediocrity. It’s like winning the battles but losing the war. There are more things wrong about the Bears organization than a few draft picks/FAs can fix. The article notes that Toub is the likely interim coach if Lovie were let go during the season. Therefore, I recommend that the Bears gamble with an upside in Toub than hope against hope that Lovie doesn’t screw it up as we have seen in the previous few seasons. That’s all.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
I agree
I love Dave toub I think he’s what we need, the unit he has been in charge of has been one of the best in the league.
I hope in january both of us are discussing this article and laughing that we actually doubted lovie and the boys. Who will be on the their way to win one more game in dallas
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 10, 2010 11:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'll take that...
with a shot of bourbon.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
Make mine a jack
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 10, 2010 12:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
rec for conan reference
that dent article is good stuff, wish there were more quotes in there.
This requires mention of Conan the Barbarian the musical
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Thank you.
I needed that. I now have a room full of high school students imitating Arnold. Classic.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Is Kron German for Ditka?
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 10, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Crom. Crom.
I keed, I keed. It was “Crom”, though :-D
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
So I ask again....
Is Crom German or Slavik for Ditka?
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 10, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
My theory is that Robert E. Howard based the deity Crom on Ditka. Witness, from the wiki on Crom:
Crom is a grim and gloomy and unforgiving god, ever watching from atop his mountain in dark clouds and obscuring mists, ready to pass a disapproving judgment on any and all. However, he is also said to value courage and tenacity in mortals
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
by Spongie on Nov 10, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds a lot like a bastardized Zeus
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
Pure awesomeness that only Aarnuld can provide
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
My roommate in college
used to play the theme song when we got back from the bars. We blasted the speakers all the way to eleven.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
Well, if they keep Lovie on I predict one, maybe two more wins.
They’ll probably give him an extension.
Win tickets to the Bears-Queens game!
Courtesy of the Hitman. Bear Down
by boondock_saint812 on Nov 10, 2010 10:40 AM CST reply actions
This will be hitting the front page shortly.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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Dent, McMahon, Conan, and Toub for Head Coach
Nice Dent!!!
Moon allays your fears, kids. His smooth jazz will take you right to your comfort zone.
He does, too, especially on camera. If the Bears want to keep the fanbase quelled and had any sense, they would hire him to replace Larry Mayer and report exclusively via video.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
It ould be nice if we scrapped the talk with the opponents
this week. Last thing i want to read here is Gates talking about the Vikings. Let’s nix this for one week…Pleeease!
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
Tough love.
It’ll be up Friday at Noon Eastern.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
alright then..I will have to come with some good ones..
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
A great question to ask DN
Do the players still feel like “men” when wearing the all purple uniforms? They’re ungodly to look at.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
It's royal purple
And I feel awesome when I put my jersey on. Plus the ladies like it as well.
If there was a Jersey I wouldn’t wear, it’d be the old creamsicle for the Bucs. Yeesh.
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
by Robert Rence on Nov 10, 2010 4:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Purple jersey with white is tolerable
but all purple makes my stomach churn.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
Question
With Bowman seeming to be injured all the time and Peanut losing is skills, would it be smart to pick up CB Jason Allen? The Dolphins just released him to make room for Al Harris. Allen is still young (27) and has good size (6-1, 200). He was leading the Phins in picks and deflected pass.
Just a thought.
by boondock_saint812 on Nov 10, 2010 3:06 PM CST reply actions
why was he cut?
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 10, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
The only thing I could find was the Phins think he hasn’t panned out since being a 1st round pick in 06. Allen
by boondock_saint812 on Nov 10, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
I say pick him up,
I like his size and speed. I watched him play a couple times this year and he would be a good Cover 2 corner. Same size as Tillman, except he is faster and more athletic. I believe this would be a good pick-up if he can learn the T2.
All he has to do
Is learn to give the WR a 10 yard cushion off the line of scrimmage, and he’ll fit right in.
We like our CBs
Especially Peanut, cause he always looks so uncoordinated out there lately.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
The "taunting tater" is about to piss me off.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
‘’This might sound wrong, but I love his arrogance,’’ Mora said. ‘’I respect his arrogance. ’My stuff is good. I don’t care what you do. I’m going to beat you with my stuff. It’s proven. I’ve won a Super Bowl with it. I’m going to beat your ass with it.’ I love that he’s always attacking.’’
patience young padawan.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
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