The Bears Den: November 17, 2010
...where at least one WCG staffer is predicting a breakout game from Tommie Harris tomorrow.
Hester has his eyes on a record when he returns to Miami this week.
Brad Biggs gives us the lowdown on the injury situation for the Bears and the Phins.
Jay Cutler weighs in on his wide receivers and the offensive line.
Cutler also provides some insight on Brandon Marshall in Miami.
The players union hs an interesting proposal for the 18-game season.
When was the last time you did something nice for yourself?
Sean Jensen has a great read on Martz's Rams vs Martz's Bears.
Mike Martz on the risky throw that Cutler made: "Yeah, we meant to do that."
''You make him run, and when he runs, you knock the snot out of him,''
Some interesting insights on the Dolphins courtesy of Rick Libero.
The Rockford Register has a good article on the Bears LB corps.
One of our favorite Team Reports, courtesy of USA Today.
The booyas most recent Power Rankings.
Week 10 Decisive Moment in the NFC North.
A great article on Vikings owner Zygi Wilf from Kevin Seifert.
The Miami Herald has an outstanding article on QB Tyler Thigpin.
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In case anyone is interested, there's a great article by David Haugh in today's Tribune about Miami's GM's ties to '85 Bears
Whoa.
imagine who Darryl MaGee could be 25 years from now…
I don't remember Space Mountain being so nauseating.
by ifuwannacrownem on Nov 17, 2010 8:20 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks for the link.
Maybe we’ll see Ireland as the Bears GM one day.
by boondock_saint812 on Nov 17, 2010 9:06 AM CST up reply actions
Unfortunately for Miami
That’d mean Kaiser Karl would be ours…. please don’t make me think about that.
MC Hammer was dissapointed when he found out that Kevin Durant could touch this.
"What's wrong? My name's Florida! Florida, that's the name of a state! Why is my name Florida?"
Unofficial Phinsider Sports Medicine Physician
My best friend is having one hell of a getaway
He(a Dolphins fan) is going to the game with his girlfriend(a Bears fan) . Knowing him, I’m not too sure they’ll be driving back up together.
I don't remember Space Mountain being so nauseating.
by ifuwannacrownem on Nov 17, 2010 8:13 AM CST reply actions
What is that girl thinking!?
Haha… jkjk. :P
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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by Ashley Czuba on Nov 17, 2010 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure if you saw it,
But the Ocho also had an article on the proposal the union gave. Turns out the owners also proposed two bye weeks. One for all teams immediately after the pre-season, and another based on the current layout.
Not saying some of these things are being put in just as points to be eliminated later, but that is a stupid idea.
The Minnesota Vikings: Where we're so desperate to win a Super Bowl, we'll even sign washed-up Packers.
by Robert Rence on Nov 17, 2010 8:14 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I've been saying all along
keep the 16 game season, but add an extra bye week to make an 18 week season. The extra week of ad revenue from games on TV and radio will be an extra boost of cash for the league
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 17, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
It was me.
I was the staffer.
From what I understand, a lot of the Dolphins woes have been coming from less than stellar play by the interior offensive line.
If Long is going to play with one arm, they’ll probably cheat to help cover Peppers. If he’s out, they’ll definitely cheat to help cover Peppers. From what I read somewhere, I think it was on the Phinsider, if Long doesn’t play, they’ll swing their current RT over to LT, and then put someone else in at RT. Then if either end starts to go off, they’ll cheat out to cover them, opening up the middle for the return of Tommie Harris.
A long shot, I know, but I can hope.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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Yeah! That sounds like fun.
Let’s guess which editor thinks Tommie Harris is not gonna suck tomorrow.
I don't remember Space Mountain being so nauseating.
by ifuwannacrownem on Nov 17, 2010 8:26 AM CST up reply actions
It wasn't a guessing game.
So no, I couldn’t. Besides, you wouldn’t have gotten it right anyways.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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I don't remember Space Mountain being so nauseating.
by ifuwannacrownem on Nov 17, 2010 8:35 AM CST up reply actions
Had to it.
Not often you find a picture of Obama looking like Tony Montana.
I don't remember Space Mountain being so nauseating.
by ifuwannacrownem on Nov 17, 2010 8:40 AM CST up reply actions
Sad Trombone
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'twas contemplating a WCG retirement
14 press conferences will be held between now and next training camp to let you know the details.
If by "breakout"
You mean “break his knee again” then yes. Or if you mean “take several plays off and then say ’I’ve been healthy and practicing I don’t know what this Matt Toeania kid thinks he’s doing’” then yes also.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Nov 17, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
It could always be worse

(from KSK by way of Bleeding Green Nation)
by Steve Ronkowski on Nov 17, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHA
watching that was amazing
Give me the heart of Walter Payton, there's never been...a greater heart. - Jim Brown
by BearNecessities on Nov 17, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
We expect
That Berger (or Procter due to injury) will be center, Carey will be LT, Jerry will be RT, McQuistan will be RG, and Incognito will be LG.
MC Hammer was dissapointed when he found out that Kevin Durant could touch this.
"What's wrong? My name's Florida! Florida, that's the name of a state! Why is my name Florida?"
Unofficial Phinsider Sports Medicine Physician
The Dolphin's starting OL - I thought certainly it would be
Moe, Larry Curly, Shemp, and Joe.
Moe @ LT cuz I hear he’s got a mean streak, Larry at LG because he needs help from Moe to block, Curly at Center – well cuz he’s curly (nyuck, nyuck, nyuck), Shemp at RG – yeah he’s kinda a wuss, and Joe at RT because he’s just big enough and dumb enough to get in the way.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 17, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
I was wondering who it was
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 17, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
Thinking the Bears missed a huge opportunity with Marshall
Especially now with Hester lighting up the return game and getting the nod again from coaches.
by TheMan1 on Nov 17, 2010 9:15 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Ive Always Advocated that if There's Gonna Be an 18 Game season
you have to expand the number of players a team could keep in order to factor in injuries. Each team should have 60 players that can be activated. Two bye weeks sounds good too, more games, more NFL! Woohoo!
Wow
Meatheads in Cleveland, but it could have been anywhere else just as easily. He’s lucky it didn’t happen around here, I don’t think Bears fans would have any trouble kicking the crap out of another Bears fan if he turned out to be a complete ass.
Yes i hope so, that is truly pathetic
by TheMan1 on Nov 17, 2010 2:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tom Waddle on CTL
told an interesting story about how his career ended…..
He heard/felt his knee buckle then got hit with the crown of the helmet that gave him a huge gash on his chin that needed 25 stitches to close (He talked about how he thought it was an illegal hit but the player, who was an ex – cowboy player that wanny coached, was not fined and wanny kept saying what was wrong it was a legal hit. Dont think waddle liked that as he mentioned it but laughed)…..
Anyways just before the half ended as he was getting stitched up and looked at on the trainers table he heard wanny scream out “can he go!?!”…..The trainers started to say tell him no way (Waddle joked that the trainer said “I think hes dead”) but Waddle didnt want to be cut so replied “Ill give it a go coach”….Waddle ran routes but his knee kept on buckling and he would fall….He was on one knee when wanny ran up to him and screamed “Can you go?!?!”….Waddle said he had tears in his eyes from the pain in his knee and hip and said “Coach I cant g….” Wanny cut him off swore at him and ran off…..Waddle joked he gets asked what the difference between wanny and Ditka and he said jokingly “I would have found a way to play for Ditka that day”….. Waddle did say that he understood why wanny wanted him to play because Jeff Graham was hurt and out that game so wanny only had 3 WRs that day……
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Also Lovie Smith teams on Thurs are 1 – 3 and avg 7.5 penalties and 3.5 Turnover in those games…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
Damn you and your facts, lol
But most of those turnovers came from our Thursday night miracle win in Arizona. Proof that handing the ball over doesn’t always mean a loss.
GAH
you’re totally right.
This is why I shouldn’t post before my 3rd cup of coffee. I remember that night because I got pulled over on the way home from work.
don't you mean
that most of those turnovers came last year in SF?? when they indeed did lose?
by Bearly Intimidated on Nov 17, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Wasn't it last year with Sizzles 4 or 5 int game against the 9ers
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
Thursday numbers
I think those numbers are a bit skewed because of last year vs San Fran (10 penalties/5 TO). 2004 was bad too with 7 pen/4 TO’s, but Quinn and Krenzel were under center.
I don’t think we’ll be anywhere near last years 5 pick game…at least I’m hoping it won’t be.
by boondock_saint812 on Nov 17, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Butbutbut...
Night game! The beetus! We’re dooooooooooooomed!
by Steven Schweickert on Nov 17, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I wish I had photoshop skills
To create a mashup of Beetlejuice and the guy who says “diabeetus” – that’s what I envision to your “beetus” there.
Paging Dr. Taylor...
Your surgical photoshop skills are needed in the BD, stat!
by Steven Schweickert on Nov 17, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
the guy who says "diabeetus"
You mean Wilford Brimley.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Nov 17, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Cutler does ok on
Monday nights
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 17, 2010 12:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Then what's tomorrow?
Sure isn’t Monday.
by Steven Schweickert on Nov 17, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
just tell cutler its monday ok
wait don’t he’ll fly to NY to see his girl and we’ll end up with Todd
give Lovie some love!
did you say beetus?

Give me the heart of Walter Payton, there's never been...a greater heart. - Jim Brown
by BearNecessities on Nov 17, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
This pic needs to be banned...
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 17, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
hater.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Nov 18, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
On a buncha things...
I’m kinda wondering how the schedule would work out with 18 games. Currently, each team plays 2 games against each team in their division, one game against each team in an AFC and an NFC division, and one game against the team in their own conference that placed the same as them in divisional rankings the previous year. If they wanted to keep that sort of structure, I can’t see where 2 games could possibly come from. 3 games, I can see. You just play two divisions in your own conference instead of 1. Will they cut out the Strength of Schedule modifier? How will the schedule work out?
Two bye weeks DURING THE SEASON would be a necessity for an 18 game season. Teams get banged up pretty heavily during a 17 week season. My thought is that each team would have one bye during weeks 3-9, and a second bye from weeks 10-17, with the first two and last two weeks of the season having no byes, and there being at least 3 weeks between bye dates for every team. Also, reducing the preseason schedule to 2 games would be necessary. They add one week to the schedule, but that can easily come from the 2 week layover between the Conference Championships and Super Bowl, putting the Pro Bowl back where it belongs after the Super Bowl.
I’m still waiting for the Bears to really start smashing people’s faces in. It hasn’t happened too much in the first half. I’m not talking from a scoring point of view. Big hits just aren’t happening this year. We’re not getting great QB pressure for the most part. I’d like to see a 5 sack game this weekend against a depleted offensive line and a 3rd string QB. Granted, I think Thigpen is a lot better than a 3rd stringer (probably a middle 2nd stringer), but he’s still a backup for almost everybody.
This game tomorrow scares me. And I’m not sure why…
I do love that
Lovie has come out and said “Yeah we want to get Hester the return record.” For a guy who doesn’t say a lot, I find that pretty cool. In a way he’s saying “Kick it to him at your own risk, but our special teams guys want to block for him as bad as he wants to get into the endzone.” I hope Hester takes it to the house tomorrow night.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Nov 17, 2010 11:18 AM CST reply actions
I'm no Lovie apologist, but his players all like him & like playing for him.
See Dallas under Wade Philips and Washington under Shanahan vs. the Eagles for instances of players who don’t particularly care for their coach & don’t play hard for him.
by Mike Mueller on Nov 17, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
How could I forget the Favre's vs Childress?
by Mike Mueller on Nov 17, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Favre played pretty well considering his top 3 WR's were sitting on the sidelines
these guys are professionals and should play their best whoever the coach is.
give Lovie some love!
dunno
3 INTs, a fumble, and 170 yards of which 50 came on one pass is not that great IMO…..Though like you said his 1 big threat not on PUP was on the sideline at half time (sorry not gonna call berrian a threat just because he played well against the cards)……
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 17, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Going over this again.
The three INTs:
First: tipped at the line of scrimmage and retrieved. Not something I put on the QB.
Second: Peterson slipped on the turf, and the defender behind him caught the ball. Not something I put on the QB.
Third: Shiancoe slipped on the turf, and the defender behind him caught the ball. Not something I put on the QB.
The fumble? Totally on the QB.
Berrian isn’t a threat, but he’s a good deal better than Greg Lewis, Greg Camarillo, or Hank Baskett.
The Minnesota Vikings: Where we're so desperate to win a Super Bowl, we'll even sign washed-up Packers.
by Robert Rence on Nov 17, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
Pulling this nugget out for a small thread...
Two bye weeks DURING THE SEASON would be a necessity for an 18 game season. Teams get banged up pretty heavily during a 17 week season. My thought is that each team would have one bye during weeks 3-9, and a second bye from weeks 10-17, with the first two and last two weeks of the season having no byes, and there being at least 3 weeks between bye dates for every team. Also, reducing the preseason schedule to 2 games would be necessary. They add one week to the schedule, but that can easily come from the 2 week layover between the Conference Championships and Super Bowl, putting the Pro Bowl back where it belongs after the Super Bowl.
I cannot agree with you more for the necessity of more bye weeks. Although, I personally would rather see three bye weeks than 2. But yeah, I think the NFLPA is on the right track for handling a ‘18 week’ side. 2 would be nice, 3 would be better. 1 in 4-8, 1 in 8-12, 1 in 12-16, 21 weeks of regular season football. this would kill off 2 preseason games. and expanding gameday rosters (if not practice squad rosters too)
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
That's a 27 week season...
Plus an extra, what is it, 3 weeks of Training Camp? 30 weeks of football. When would it start? Early July? Thank you, you just killed one person per team per year. When would it end? March? Thank you for screwing over either March Madness or the Super Bowl. The schedule pretty much dictates that Training Camp starts no earlier than August, and the final game (whether Super or Pro Bowl) happens no later than February.
Believe me, I’d LOVE there to be a 60 person roster with 50+1 actives and 3 bye weeks. Would seriously help out a ton of teams, and would probably keep fans more interested as the “stars” get to play more and spend less time injured. But I’m just not seeing it happening with scheduling.
Has anyone pointed out
That “The” is spelled wrong in the title of this post?
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Nov 17, 2010 12:23 PM CST reply actions
Thought about saying it
But I’ve had enough of Spongie-ing people for a while.
by Steven Schweickert on Nov 17, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Nov 17, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
Why am I James Van Der Beek?
Because I’m a washed up ’90s actor?
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Nov 17, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
ESPN power rankings..
Good god. ESPN really does hate the bears. Sitting at 6-3 and they STILL rank us 17th. Our D gives up a fair amount of points overall, but apparently they ignored the rest of the takeaway stats.
I hought we were somewhre around 4th best in the league
in points given up per game. Too lazy/busy to look it up thouh.
Specifically
I believe we’re three total points behind the Packers. That should hopefully end this weekend.
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I think the
people clinging to hope that the team is bad so Lovie can be fired or people that hate Jay Cutler or just hate the city of Chicago in general or what ever point to the record of teams beaten which is what like 6 and 50 or something like that…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 17, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Yep the rankings are BS
They have the Raiders, Dolphins, Bucs, Chiefs, and Chargers ahead of us even though they have less wins. Bears are better than those teams and will start proving it tomorrow night with a win over the Dolphins. The Titans might be the only team that may be ahead of us that could deserve it. Bears should be at 12 minimum.
by Stellarpete22 on Nov 17, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
After we beat up on the Dolphins tomorrow we will have to be boosted to the top 10 at least. I think we are playing like a top 5 team personally. We didnt lose to the bills, Browns, Lions, or have to go into over time to beat these teams either. Unlike the Jets and Pats.
by Jonathan Heun Jr on Nov 17, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Why do ppl want them T10 so badly?
Keep them in B10!!! This team always has played best when it feels disrespected. If we want them to do better, we want them to be as poorly ranked as possible!
by Doshi on Nov 17, 2010 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Let the Media trash us!
I do not care what the coaches and the players say. I know that they pay attention to the media. This is the kind of stuff that should get the coaches and players fired up to kick some butt on Thursday night. Every time the Media or one of the Sports Analyzers says something the bears need to do. They change up their game plan a little at a time.























