The Bears Den: November 18th, 2010 Edition
by Kev H on Nov 18, 2010 8:07 AM CST
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So there's 9 things we need to watch for?
Damn! I just want to watch the game.
by boondock_saint812 on Nov 18, 2010 8:21 AM CST reply actions
Give me a break
How is Kurt Warner a tool? He makes a good point. And he always has something intelligent to say unlike some sports anylists who formulate there opinions from watching 2 minutes worth of hilights.
by IndyBearsFan88 on Nov 18, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
hooray for #69
fun to see an angelo draft pick doing well.
I thought when they "red-shirted" him
He was another Dan Bazuin, glad to see him be a pleasant surprise.
Well at least it was
a 4th round gamble instead of a early 2nd rounder….
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 18, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions
Well
unless you want him fired….
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 18, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
I hope your not suggesting we root against Jerry's picks
because you want him fired. He picked them not the other way around. As a fan I want my team to do well and the players to do well. Besides, Jerry has done plenty to be fired over without rooting against the team or some of the players.
give Lovie some love!
by ed_brown on Nov 18, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No
just referencing the article where people are rooting against the Bears because they want Angelo and Lovie fired….
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 18, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
Rec.
For two reasons – 1) a sane response to those for who want the team to lose out if a Super Bowl victory isn’t in the cards so as so get Lovie and JA fired, and 2) your signature.
by oripunk3485 on Nov 18, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
I thought it was a sack at the time
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 18, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
I'd like to know if Kurt Warner's statement was accurate....
Warner said he reached out to Cutler ‘’early on,’’ not specifying when, but he didn’t hear back
Wouldn’t you think, that with the problems we’re having on Offense, that Martz/Lovie/JA would fly Warner in to spend a few days with Cutler like they did with Tory Holt and the WR’s? Hell, Jay’s making enough money to pop for plane ticket himself if he really wants to get better.
It bothers me that either Cutler doesn’t want to accept help/coaching or the people in charge aren’t forcing it on him. Either way, being an elite player, especially at the QB position, means taking the extra step to get better. If you have the opportunity to learn from the guy who really put that offense on the map, why wouldn’t you, at least, look into it?
If the story is true, it lends credence to Jay’s reputation of “not being the hardest worker” that a lot of his critics bring up.
That what I found odd
because I recalled stories of Cutler and warner talking back when martz was first hired up till training camp….huh…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 18, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
I thought I remembered that too...
or at least of Cutler acknowledging Warner’s offer and intending to accept it….
by David in Maine on Nov 18, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
Think about your job,
It sucks when people who’ve done it before try to tell you all the little things they did better. Or maybe Jay just hates voicemails like me, and doesn’t check them, and never heard Kurt’s heartwarming invitation.
Yeah, but how many people where you work are headed to the HOF?
My point is that if Warner is willing to help him out, if I were Martz and/or Lovie, I’d be insisting he take him up on the offer. The heck with egos and bruised feelings, we’re trying to win football games and a division title. Do what you have to in order to get better.
You're so cute, with all that feel good "do what we have to do" stuff
I love Cutler – OK, I really think he’s destined for greatness – anyway, He’s got an ego the size of the stadium. Ask for help? Seriously? That would be seen as a sign of weakness by a man with his ego.
I’m not sayin’ I disagree with you, but the one thing Cutler is unlikely to do is reach out for help. He’ll be on the gurney before he does that, IMO.
I’m not even saying it’s smart, but I can see where Jay doen’t feel like he need Warner’s help. Somebody else here said “Warner’s kind of a tool” or words to that effect. Maybe Jay just doesn’t respect his opinion much, perhaps Martz keeps telling him “You’re 10 times the athlete that Kurt was, you got this”. All speculation.
One thing that is indisputable is that Cutler believes he has this under control. He believes in this system, and he’s gaining more proficiency every week. Cutler will be great.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 18, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not really that cute but I appreciate the compliment....
So you’re saying that it’s okay that Jay just keeps going along and because he has a huge ego the people who run the team should just let him do it the way he wants? Yeah, that’s the way all truly great players approach their jobs! Also, no one said anything about Jay reaching out to Warner, it was the other way around, and if someone with his success offers you some help, why wouldn’t you try it?
Remember Warner isn’t from another era either, where Jay could claim “what he did wouldn’t work in today’s NFL”, he was in the Super Bowl 2 years ago. Again, if they thought it was a good idea for Bruce (credit to suckmyditka) to work with the WR’s to teach them about the system, why wouldn’t it be just as good an idea for the QB who did it best working with your young signal caller since, according to the article, he’s offered to do it?
And “do what you have to do” isn’t a “feel good” statement, it should be any professional’s mantra.
FIGHT AT THE FLAGPOLE AT 3.
Please?
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we are having a company picnic
in Canton, so most of my co-workers are headed there.
by jimribs on Nov 18, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
even though it was Isaac Bruce... Not Holt... But i give you an A for effort
13. It's a magic number
I was just testing you to see if you picked up on it.......
at least that’s my story and I’m sticking to it!!!!
I didn't get any of that from what Warner was saying
I don’t see a lot of people saying Cutler is lazy or “not being the hardest worker”:
Kurt Warner is an analyst not a coach, Cutler spends a lot of time with Martz who speaks english why would he need an Intrerupator?
I have a hard time believing that you know what Cutler wants.
give Lovie some love!
I'm not sure where you're going with this...
If you read what I wrote in the subject line, I was questioning the accuracy of the report. Then, I said that “if” it’s true that help was offered and he’s not accepting it, I thought it was a mistake and lended credence to one of the issues"his critics" have to say. I never claimed to know what Jay wants.
Regarding Warner not being a coach, neither was Isaac Bruce yet most of us felt that was a great move on Martz’ part so the players could get an understanding from a players’ perspective. Martz may have designed the offense but Warner has actually executed it, so I would think that his perspective could be valuable to anyone who will actually have people running around trying to take his head off.
and Erich Von Daniken never said there were acient astronauts in "Chariots of the Gods"
He just asked questions.
give Lovie some love!
Saw
that special to eh? …….
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 18, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
well I see your still passing out question marks like candy on Halloween.
what is that expression you kids use all the time?
“just asking”? or is it “I’m Just saying”?
Kurt played behind a very good O-line with probowl recievers with a HOF running back, I’m sure translates well into Jay’s current circumstances.
The thing is Jay can do everything he is taught and told to do, and still get sacked, throw INT’s and have everyone question his judgement and commitment.
give Lovie some love!
I'm guessing I'm at least as old, if not older, than you are, but that aside...
If you have a QB, who throughout his career, has shown a tendency to make bad decisions like throwing into coverage when he doesn’t have to or lock onto his primary receiver, then he either needs to do something different to change those tendencies or he has to accept the fact that he’ll never be great. The decisions in several of those situations (like the redzone interception this past Sunday) had little to do with pass protection or the quality of the players around him.
I think Cutler still has the potential to be an elite QB but he needs to go the extra step to get there, in my opinion. This offer, if it’s legitimate, by Warner could be the trigger to get him to the next level.
Please, note that there wasn’t a single question in this entire response. I see that they seem to really bother you for some reason.
that was a bad decision but one of very few Jay made sunday.
That INT in the endzone looked a lot like the TD pass to Olsen and according to ProFootballFocus Cutler has a very high rating when throwing over the middle like that. They ran the same play right before the INT and the pass was deflected by an Defensive lineman. I think the mistake was coming right back to the same play the next down.
If you think Raquel Welch is a hot young babe then your maybe as old as I am.
give Lovie some love!
I went to the theater to see 1,000,000 B.C. with my buddies in grade school if that tells you anything
I’m not anti-Cutler at all, I’m just saying that if Warner made the offer (which we don’t for sure anyway), I think he’d be well served picking his brain. It certainly couldn’t hurt.
You're not really surprised are you?
Schlereth is a douche grande,
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 18, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
Schlereth surprised me this morning...
On Mike and Mike he stated that he thought the Bears had improved a lot since the start of the season…he then went on to say with the collapse of the Vikings he thought the Packers will win the North and the Bears will probably be a Wild Card team.
That is the nicest thing I think I have ever heard him say about the Bears…I was so surprised I nearly drove off the road on my way to work…
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Nov 18, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Starting to see ESPN
NFL “experts” start to back the Bears which scared the hell out of me…..I wonder if they do it to jinx them sometimes…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 18, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
I think most of the time they don't know what the hell they're talking about at all.
“Farve Farve Farve slobber slobber slobber… oh wait, the Vikings are finally ready for a fork? Guess we better toss darts at a list of teams to see who we’ll be forced to turn to.”
by oripunk3485 on Nov 18, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
Felt bad for berman
on ESPN when he talked about the vikings loss….Think he wanted to cry….Anyways they were already turning to nyg, jets and pats….Now you can add the eagles to the list as michael vick is the greatest QB to ever live now…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 18, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
I really try to bite my tongue when Vick's name comes up.
But if this whole Vick’s-comeback-story-is-the-greatest-thing-ever stuff continues, I’m going to have to stop watching all these sports “authorities” for good. Which my wife will probably think is a good thing.
I want to see a game
where the Bears punish the Phins into submission. Running the ball and stopping the run should be the gameplan for this contest. They’re stout versus the pass, so it’s imperative for them to pound the rock. With the way the defense and the special teams have played, it should be enough for a tough road win.
I don’t think Singletary was being sarcastic cause he wished him well.
Lastly, Jay cannot get frustrated! As much as Jay wants receivers to win these matchups, he has to be ready to move on in his reads.
This is always the key for Jay’s success when the primary WRs aren’t open. Just check-off damn it!
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Jay Cutler says
Hahahahahaaa…..You know who I am…..I am Jay “Freaking” Cutler…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 18, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Only if CW becomes a solid guard
Since Omi has played solid so far this year..but knowing the Bears they will try to put Webb at LT rather than leave him at RT, Putting Omi at RT and CW at G….ugh..
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
CW still might not be a mistake.
He handled the Williams brothers fine.It’s still to soon to say for sure if he is a mistake.
There's no substitute for guts.
-Paul Bear Bryant
by I love football! on Nov 18, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
How many times has Cutler been sacked?
I suggest, maybe the O-line and the coaches need to earn Jay’s trust.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
If you want the Bears to lose
for any reason, and still watch the games…you are a moron. Like Forrest Gump would say “that’s all I gotta say ’bout that”
by jimribs on Nov 18, 2010 11:32 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Or Mark Schlereth...
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Nov 18, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
The faction
of fans that hate Lovie is so strong it makes them not want rational things as fans of the team…..I mean you have the score flooded with calls on why Lovie should be fired even when they win…..Thats they only thing they can cling to…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 18, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
we can only hope
that faction moves on to another team, They are not Bear fans any longer, they are anti-Lovie fans now and more annoying than any Lovie after game interview.
give Lovie some love!
That
His around .500 record, poor personnel decisions, his expertise in play calling his own defense last year and his excellent interview skills. (Last one was a joke before someone goes off on another presser tyraid)
by TheMan1 on Nov 18, 2010 3:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
to clarify I was commenting on the Lovie non-supporters
The ones wanting the Bears to lose, go for ’em.
by TheMan1 on Nov 18, 2010 3:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If you buy a Ditka sweatvest you can partake in
Sweater Vestival A celebration of sweater vests!
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Nov 18, 2010 12:03 PM CST reply actions
the way you guys are pushing the sweatervests
one might think you in on a cut of the action.
give Lovie some love!
There used to be an ongoing conversation about
how expensive the DSVs were, and how there was no one out there that sold affordable ones. Then we found this site a few weeks ago. Bears fans rejoice.
and once you get me in that sweatervest you'll brainwash me into growing a stash.
and after the stash I’ll have to start chewing on a cigar.
Then I will walk into my home only to find all my friends and relatives waiting for me to hold an intervention.
give Lovie some love!
An intervention?
More like a party!
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 18, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No brainwashing required.
The sweatervest begets the ‘stache automatically. Before you know it, it’s already grown there.
It’ll never be the magnificence of Ditka’s original ’stache, however, but it is a start.
by Steven Schweickert on Nov 18, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Contest
First person to get the vest and a grow a ’stache wins a peppermint.
by boondock_saint812 on Nov 18, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
I see it being like in the Evan Almighty movie
You shave and it instantly grows back once the vest is put on
by TheMan1 on Nov 18, 2010 3:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's almost exactly what I was thinking too.
The cigar, too. Just out of nowhere it pops into your mouth. There could be a complete lack of cigars around for miles, and the power of the Ditka sweatervest instantly gives you one.
by Steven Schweickert on Nov 18, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
You make The Sweatervest, Mustache, and an occasional cigar sound like a bad thing.
Bill Swerski: Alright, alright! Now, let me shift gears here for a moment. What is God's role in this? Obviously, he's rooting for Da Bears.
Pat Arnold: Otherwise, he wouldn't have put 'em in Chicago.
by Superfans on Nov 18, 2010 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Fools... They should no better.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Nov 18, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
in other words, they have know sense???
sorry, just thought I’d jump on it before Just Dave or Spongie did……
They wouldn't jump on it, I rule and you know it.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Nov 18, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure you all look great in that Ditka sweatervest
I’ll stick with my #35 Rick Casares jersey on game day. Even though I was crushed when he was held to next to no yards by the Giants in the 56 championship game.
give Lovie some love!
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