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The Bears Den: November 23, 2010

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2010 Bears defense is allowing 14.6 points per game (tied for 1st in the league)... 1985 Bears defense allowed 12.4 points per game (1st in NFL).

All signs are pointing towards Pisa Tinoisamoa returning to face the Eagles.

Chat alert: Charles Tillman will be on the team's official site today for a live chat.

Israel Idonije's discipline is helping him do more than he ever has.

Some Bears players sound off on the firing of Brad Childress in Minnesota.

Order now, and you can wear your Ditka Sweater Vest this coming Sunday.

Star-divide

Mayor Daley and Governor Quinn get letter from NFLPA regarding lockout.

John 'Moon' Mullin reviews the remainder of the 2010 Bears schedule.

Moon also talks about a scenario that could have led Leslie Frazier to the Bears.

Sean Jensen talks about the situation in Minnesota and gives his insights on things.

Omiyale says that Williams settling in at Guard proves he's a beter athlete.

Featured article: Doug Farrar weighs in on Matt Millen in the booth

Forget the 18-penalty game - The Packers have cleaned up their act.

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Sean Jensen

Chicago Bears Vikings beat reporter.

by jimribs on Nov 23, 2010 8:15 AM CST reply actions  

Yes, he was.

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Nov 23, 2010 9:18 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Given that before he came to Chicago, that was his job.

If there’s a news story there, it would be negligent of him to not use his contacts.

Though from that article, I thought the most telling part was Chester Taylor’s reaction. I’d also love to hear from Darren Sharper and Marcus Robinson on that.

The Minnesota Vikings: Where we're so desperate to win a Super Bowl, we'll even sign washed-up Packers.

by Robert Rence on Nov 23, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Just sick of hearing of the Vikings

from any source, and it seems Mr. Jensen has jumped at this opportunity to continue to write about them despite no longer being employed in that area.

by jimribs on Nov 23, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Jensen, just like any other beat writers,

will provide coverage for anything that affects the Bears or the NFC North. The good thing about these artlcles… you don’t have to “hear about them” if you don’t like; just close the browser window and move on.

by Dane Noble on Nov 23, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Can't

I went with the “no close” feature on my CPU, looking back it was a terrible decision on my part.

by jimribs on Nov 23, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Jensen is a welcome change

over the many writers we have suffered over the past 40 years.

And, he has been good to this community.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Nov 23, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Both statements very true.

Well done, Mr. Brown

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Nov 23, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Being better

Than a turd, doesn’t make you good. If Rick morrissey interacted on WCG, would you think he was good?

by jimribs on Nov 23, 2010 12:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Didn't Morrissey get punted off WCG?

The Minnesota Vikings: Where we're so desperate to win a Super Bowl, we'll even sign washed-up Packers.

by Robert Rence on Nov 23, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah, we brought him back.

As much as people despise him, the guy is a telented writer, and gives us plenty to argue about.

by Dane Noble on Nov 23, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Mmm.... page views.

The Minnesota Vikings: Where we're so desperate to win a Super Bowl, we'll even sign washed-up Packers.

by Robert Rence on Nov 23, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I do enjoy most of Jensen's articles

I’m just sick of the constant giant spotlight on the Vikings. The NFL will be much better off without Lord Favre.

by jimribs on Nov 23, 2010 1:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I like Jensen

He doesn’t write about the Bears with a whole lot of enthusiasm (unlike a guy like Mullin), but he doesn’t have the customary snark that most Bears writers are poisoned with (I don’t care how talented a writer Morrissey is – he’s a douche and I don’t like reading his crap). Jensen seems to have fairly objective and reasonable analysis of the Bears.

by NorthSideBearsFan on Nov 23, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure a turd would be

a welcome change over Morrissey

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Nov 23, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Watching Philip Rivers last night was flat out awesome...

He’s Dan Marino. And he’s got a bunch of nobodys to throw to. The guy is friggin incredible. When Peyton Manning fades away, the NFL will be all about Rivers.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Nov 23, 2010 8:19 AM CST reply actions  

he is awesome

and he looked even better playing against a subpar team in denver.

glad he is in a different conference than the bears however.

by reefermadness3 on Nov 23, 2010 8:21 AM CST up reply actions  

His delivery

boggles my mind every time I seen it…..Still he is no kyle orton or vince young…..

Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!

- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans

by CloudyFuture on Nov 23, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Boggling is right

Rivers’ elbow seems to move just 45 degrees and yet the ball comes out of his hands like it was shot out of a cannon. Very impressive.

by rdent4hof on Nov 23, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

No kidding

looks like hes throwing it shot put style……but hey it works…..

Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!

- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans

by CloudyFuture on Nov 23, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Tweeted this

last night.

Watching Phillip Rivers shot-put the football downfield is weird. Wouldn’t expect such velocity from shortened throwing motion.

Great minds and such…

by Dane Noble on Nov 23, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Rivers needs to have playoff success before he gets his due

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 23, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Rivers does have talent

but I utterly despise him because of his attitude and childish antics.

by TheotherDane on Nov 24, 2010 3:35 AM CST up reply actions  

The article about Millen is genius

“If I’m Bob Papa, I mention that the score is 0 to 16 as often as possible until Millen snaps.”

by Arbusto on Nov 23, 2010 8:29 AM CST reply actions  

It's sad

when Millen can make Theisman sound good

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 23, 2010 8:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I watched the game about 1 hour late on DVR...

so i couldn’t tune in the game on the internet radio broadcast. It was so bad that I turned off the sound and and tuned in a Xmas music station. Nothing funnier than Peppers destruction of the Miami O-line set to “Rockin Around the Christmas Tree”!!!!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!

"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"

by LostInSTL on Nov 23, 2010 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

disturbing

but interesting and funny, I wonder what would have happened if you had switched on some Vogner.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Nov 23, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Pfft. All the cool kids are listening to Brahms.

BRAHMMMMMMMMMMMMS.

The Minnesota Vikings: Where we're so desperate to win a Super Bowl, we'll even sign washed-up Packers.

by Robert Rence on Nov 23, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

what

bieber man…..bieber…..

Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!

- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans

by CloudyFuture on Nov 23, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

No

Rosa Vogner dronning on endlessly about her pink car.

But, Wagner might work even better.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Nov 23, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

i know right?

it’s like the anti-joniak/thayer there. although to be fair theismann seemed only below-average and not nearly the black hole that millen was creating.

by reefermadness3 on Nov 23, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Worse announce team

ever assembled…..papa sounds like he is dead, thiesmen always brings the game back himself or when he played, and millen ugh……

I was stunned when millen was praising marinilli for being a great coach then laughed when papa replied ya he was your coach in detroit (thought oh damn no he didnt) awkward silence for 3 seconds before theismen pointed out the mia QB coach……

Like I said in one of the post game threads who ever assembled this announce team should be kicked in the groin repeatedly…….

Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!

- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans

by CloudyFuture on Nov 23, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, a genius article it is

Remembering the 90’s and watching/listening to the games Millen was assigned, was always excruciating. Even as a teenager he seemed like an idiot. Naming the wrong players, missing calls, and the way he critiques, is abrasive to the point of making the viewer feel uncomfortable.

When Millen got the Detroit job I was so happy for two reasons; One, I figured he would drive the Lions franchise into the ground (he did). Two, I wouldn’t have to listen to his dumb ass call NFL games anymore.

Then when he was finally fired in Detriot for being possibly the worst GM in NFL sports history. I held onto the hope that the TV networks wouldn’t give this guy the time of day… You know, because he’s the worst. But lo & behold, the worst football analyst that I can remember in my life gets work on three different networks!!!

And yes Coach Wiltfong, It’s sad when anyone can make Thiesman sound good. At least Millen’s good for somethin’.

by rdent4hof on Nov 23, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I think my favorite comment during the game

“Look at this great block Greg Olsen makes, sealing the outside edge.”

Replay begins: Olsen runs into a lineman, the running back is way out in front of him and Olsen flails an arm at a defender.

by Arbusto on Nov 23, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

After reading that article, I mentioned to Doug that there is a fine line between

driving traffic with controversy, versus driving away traffic due to providing a sub-par product.

You’d think that after his homophobic comments towards Johnny Morton and his ethnic slur towards Ron Jaworski, he’d never be able to find work again… he’s not controversial, he’s just plain ignorant.

Oh, and the latest asinine behavior: He talks to Steve Young like he’s an idiot, to which Young can’t help but laugh in response.

by Dane Noble on Nov 23, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

How does that guy still have a job!

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 23, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I can't even count the number of times on that game thread...

I posted something about wanting to shut Millen up. There’s crazy (Deon, Barkley), and then there’s stupid (Millen). Crazy puts butts in seats. Stupid drives butts away.

by Doshi on Nov 23, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

That's why you have a wreck
Crazy puts butts in seats. Stupid drives butts away.

by rdent4hof on Nov 23, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

good point

mr. turrible is always a joy because he is crazy.

by reefermadness3 on Nov 23, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

hahaha

i bet steve had to swallow hard to avoid choking millen out on the spot. total maroonie.

by reefermadness3 on Nov 23, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Sad thing

well if you are a lions fans, is that one of the reasons ford hired millen because he thought millen broke the game down and evaluated players well in those commentaries…..

Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!

- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans

by CloudyFuture on Nov 23, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Yikes

I know that cars and trucks have wheels, tires, doors, engines, exhaust pipes, consoles and wind shield wipers… And Mr. Ford if your interested and you need somebody to run your automobile business, there’s more where that came from…

by rdent4hof on Nov 23, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Pompei article on Izzy was an enjoyable read

So glad for Izzy finally settling into a spot and beginning to reach his full potential. DMS is not easily overcome.

Also, I enjoyed the Hayes article featuring Omiyale, on Chris Williams. DMS is not easily overcome.

by rdent4hof on Nov 23, 2010 10:36 AM CST reply actions  

Izzy is too awesome to succomb to DMS

He would succeed even if put in as Fullback, Slot receiver, or Strong Safety.

by Chitownproduct on Nov 23, 2010 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

People are finally coming to realize the awesomeness of IZZY.

by DaHamsta on Nov 23, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Am I the only one who's noticed?

It seems that Danieal Manning has overcome DMS. He’s having a pretty good year.

by NorthSideBearsFan on Nov 23, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

it's not easy overcoming DMS

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Nov 23, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Especially when you’re DM.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Nov 23, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

he's playing good

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 24, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

on a side note

wow the broncos laid down and let the chargers do very bad things to them last night eh? part of me is kind of enjoying all the boohooing going on at mhr. mcdaniels is really coming into his own now.

that fake punt/pass was a thing of beauty. so was sean phillips destroying all those trick plays the broncos tried.

by reefermadness3 on Nov 23, 2010 11:32 AM CST reply actions  

I've always liked Orton

But I gotta admit it was fun watching McDaniels get all his gimmick plays blown up

by NorthSideBearsFan on Nov 23, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Must.....Fight....

Urge…..No…..I….wont do it….

Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!

- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans

by CloudyFuture on Nov 23, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

It's hilarious

Of course cutler still sucks..even though he is 7-3. He just wins..Kyle orton?? 3-7..how about that mhr?? Which is it??

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2010 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

So Lovie Dovie Is Surprised

…the Vikings fired Childress. I guess he is a little fearful too if there’s gonna be a collapse this season.

by Gaak on Nov 23, 2010 11:56 AM CST reply actions  

Take a look at...

this little tidbit. It’s…well..interesting.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!

"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"

by LostInSTL on Nov 23, 2010 1:19 PM CST reply actions  

Godd article on Vick by KC Joyner

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/columns/story?columnist=joyner_kc&id=5842572

His comments are that Vick has been incredibly lucky with a lot of his poor decisions this season. His poor decision rate is far above Cutlers from one year ago.

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2010 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

Not really...

We aren’t allowed in any shape, form, or fashion, to post any pay-wall protected information.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that is something that we have to be veeeeery careful about.

by Dane Noble on Nov 23, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That is why I didn't do it

gotta follow the rules. Basically the gist is that Vick’s decision making this year has not been good but he has been fortunate when he has made poor decisions.

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Here is hoping the ball bounces our way Sunday

good luck is always a good thing

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Nov 23, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

We should get some numbers on Vick from Football Outsiders...

maybe I could convince Doug Farrar to give us a quick rundown.

by Dane Noble on Nov 23, 2010 5:57 PM CST up reply actions  

You da man!

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2010 6:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Nice article, Jim Miller praising Urlacher’s achievement of becoming the franchise all-time leader in tackles. Some interesting comments about their initial impressions of the big rookie, and apparently…

Just for the record, he could of done it as a safety too!

Could have, Jim. Could have.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Nov 23, 2010 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

Dude

its Jim Miller…..You questioning Jim Miller…..

Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!

- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans

by CloudyFuture on Nov 23, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

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