Thoughts From NFL Week 12: Chicago Bears and Beyond
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 29, 2010 3:00 PM CST
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There were some big time games this weekend. After having the struggling Bengals, Cowboys, and Lions featured on Thanksgiving it was nice to have some serious match-ups on Sunday. Eagles at Bears, Packers at Falcons, Chargers at Colts, Jaguars at Giants, and Buccaneers at Ravens, were all games pitting teams with serious playoff aspirations against each other.
Some teams stepped up to the challenge and answered their critics, but we all know the critics will just drum up some new B.S. to sling around. It seems no matter what some teams do, they'll still have that group of media "experts" and in some cases pessimistic fans that just can't help them selves from throwing some Haterade on the fire. So with that in mind my thoughts this week will take a more negative slant as I consume some sour grapes to get myself in the proper state to honor all of the haters.
1) Teams have just been handing the Jets their wins on a silver platter. And the Bengals kind of laid down in the second half on that Thursday night afterthought. The J-E-T-S are OVER - RATED (clap clap clap clap clap)
2) I hope Atlanta fans realize the Falcons don't win that game unless Matt Wilhelm facemasks the Atlanta kick returner. That game had OT written all over it.
3) Yeah, the Buccaneers only lost by seven to a good Ravens team, but that game wasn't that close. Baltimore had control throughout. Tampa is the worst 7-4 team in the NFL, and they'll be lucky to make the playoffs.
4) Seriously.. the 5-6 Rams are division leaders? Give me a break, hopefully they find a way to screw up enough games so they do not make the playoffs and embarrass all of St. Louis.
5) Dude the Chiefs suck. You take away Dwayne Bowe and they are nothing.
6) So much for the winning streak. The Jaguars finally go up against a good team and they get the "L"... figures...
7) Big deal, the Bears don't win if they have an actual grounds crew maintaining that crappy sod. And if Asante Samuel plays he gets 3 picks minimum.
8) Wow, the Texans finally show some fire and passion, but it took the reeling Titans coming to town to get them going. They'll be lucky to go 8-8 again.
9) So Brett Favre doesn't throw a pick and the Vikings win. Too little to late.
10) Bottom line, if Steve Johnson doesn't choke away the game winner the Steelers lose.
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Hmmm
1 – I do think they are a good team but the media hypes them up way to much but eh when your 9 – 2 (and in ny) I expect that I guess. sanchize greatest QB evah
2 – Even with out the face mask was a pretty good return. When I saw that return knew atl was winning that one. Also the more I see rodgers play the more I hate that man and his stupid “belt thrust dance” or what ever that is
3 – Was never big on tampa. IIRC all their wins are against losing teams
4 – Over under for NFC west division winner? I put it at 7 myself
5 – No. I still like the chiefs jammal charles and dewayne bowe will make the chiefs win the divison (I hope)
6 – Was starting to buy into the jags then bleh. BLEH
7 – I see you watch / listen to ESPN leader in sports entertainment
8 – IMO kubiak is (should be) fired at the end of the season
9 – Saw ESPN (well news) sort of celebrate favre 1st down run
10 – It was Gods fault. If he didnt change the channel to watch the Bears game
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
Oh my for your #10.
Had you already read this when you posted?…. Amazing if you hadn’t, funny if you had.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Na
all over sporting news radio / TV today….Kind of humorous…..Still feel bad for him after hearing his post game remarks….
Bernstein really taking it up…..Likes it since he sees so many thank god for playing well and or wins he always wanted to hear a player sort of blame god when things dont go well……
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 29, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Bernstein finally got his wish
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 29, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
If only my wish came true
and that arrogant SOB got bounced from ever doing radio again..
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
those two are more whinny then my two year old
i hate, hate, hate the voice of borz. when anybody says something that he doesn’t like or agree with he whines like a little kid. oh and tell me they dont suck hub off every time hes on. mac jurko harry do a better job on the bears. And you dont have to listen to a grown man cry. unless jurko lost his parlay on a bears game.
Bill Swerski: Alright, alright! Now, let me shift gears here for a moment. What is God's role in this? Obviously, he's rooting for Da Bears.
by LightsOutVegas on Nov 29, 2010 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
I like it too; since it’s most nonsensical kind of nonsense to come out with in victory, why not trot it out in adversity?
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
I love how he ends his tweet
with Thx tho…lol
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Kubiak is the most undeserving HC in the NFL.
The guy sucks. My buddy is a Texans fan, so we bring him to Buffalo Wild Wings all the time. I’m not even a Texans fan, and I’m yelling at the TV for all the stupid crap that guy does as a HC.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Remember last season?
I couldn’t count how many second half leads this team blew. He stopped throwing the ball completely, and eventually the other team would snatch a victory late.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
I like this one
Also the more I see rodgers play the more I hate that man and his stupid "belt thrust dance" or what ever that is
Cutler is supposed to be the immature punk and Rodgers the “wise-beyond-his-years” leader – yet, you never see Cutler doing any ridiculous celebration dances when he scores; just a fist pump and back to the bench.
Screw Rodgers.
by NorthSideBearsFan on Nov 30, 2010 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
Pot. Kettle. Black.
3. Before beating the Eagles we only had one victory against a team with a winning record …
5. Let’s not forget TJ !
Jags could still sneak in.
Peyton may not be able to win as many games with the second string talent they’ve had to put on the field lately.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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On 9
Brett ALSO didn’t throw a TD.
It’s still technically possible! They only need a collapse from three potential wild card teams (One from NFC East, Two from the South, and one from the North) for it to happen, but it’s still possible!
The Minnesota Vikings: Where we're so desperate to win a Super Bowl, we'll even sign washed-up Packers.
There's a one-liner in there about Vikings fans and counting issues...
But because you’re a good guy, I think I’ll let it go.
by Steven Schweickert on Nov 29, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
Wiriting it out:
In order for the Vikes to make it in, they need to win out, the Eags need to go 2-3, and two of the other potential WC contenders need to go 1-4. That would be two of any of the following:
Bears, Pack, Saints, Falcons, Bucs.
If the Bucs, Eags and Giants all fall apart, and the Vikes win out, they are still eliminated from the playoffs because someone needs to win the NFC East, and if places remained the same, it’d be Bears and Falcons winning their division, with the Pack and Saints taking the Wild Card spots. So, yeah, three potential Wild Card teams, One from the East, two from the South, one from the North.
Or is there something else I’m missing?
Clearer now?
The Minnesota Vikings: Where we're so desperate to win a Super Bowl, we'll even sign washed-up Packers.
by Robert Rence on Nov 29, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
I know, I know.
You meant three of the four.
Still, seeing you say three and name four just leaves it too open.
by Steven Schweickert on Nov 29, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
Ahh, okay.
I blame the chili’s excessive scoville rating for scalding my brain.
The Minnesota Vikings: Where we're so desperate to win a Super Bowl, we'll even sign washed-up Packers.
by Robert Rence on Nov 29, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
As a side note
Don’t you hate it when you go up to edit something, forget you wrote more stuff, and end up saying essentially the same thing twice? Dangit.
The Minnesota Vikings: Where we're so desperate to win a Super Bowl, we'll even sign washed-up Packers.
by Robert Rence on Nov 29, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
Hell, I do it all the time.
Read any lengthy post of mine, it’s almost a guarantee that I repeat myself.
by Steven Schweickert on Nov 29, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Remedy to that is I don't read any of your posts that go
over four lines.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Nov 30, 2010 7:23 AM CST up reply actions
About #10
Steve Johnson tweeted that like right after the game so I’m chalking that up to frustration and in all the post game interviews he took all responsibility so I’m giving him a pass on that. By all accounts he’s a good team mate and a good player. He had a bad game and everyone is entitled to have one from time to time. Hell Manning was picked off 4 times last night so hopefully he picks himself up and just goes back to work. But I agree about #1 the Jets ARE overrated and on a more positive note… on NFL Live Trent Dilfer, (Yes THAT Trent Dilfer) gave a gameball to Cutler and not to his unrequited lovers Rogers and Rivers. That was good see. Go Bears!
on NFL Live Trent Dilfer, (Yes THAT Trent Dilfer) gave a gameball to Cutler
I “Herd” Dilfer on the radio the next day. When it comes to ranking the Bears, he said he had to do some “soul searching”…LOL
that's why I hate his guts. he flip flops all the time and for having been nothing more than...
a below average QB, he sure thinks highly of himself. He can thank that Ravens D for his ring
by frenchbears113 on Dec 2, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
The Packers' penalties come to bite them yet again
And people are still looking at them as superbowl candidates… With that kind of undisciplined play, and the way they’ve lost so many close games, I wouldn’t get so excited.
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
Penalties no running game yet they are
“still a legit SB team”
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
Well we've gotta clean up our false start penalties
Our O-line has enough problems as it is blocking for Cutler. We can’t have them beating themselves.
48 minutes of intensity
Huh
Dude the Chiefs suck. You take away Dwayne Bowe and they are nothing.
Paging Brandon Flowers, Jamaal Charles, Derrick Johnson, and Eric Berry.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Chiefs are lucky
to be in the 2nd worst division in football.
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
did you just skim?
I was channeling my inner “Hater”
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 29, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
I was totally skimming
Reading everything is difficult for me cause I have a short attention span. :)
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
i don't know about you all
but when i see earl bennett run with the ball after the catch, the way he avoids or slips through defenders reminds me of #34.
Put the crack pipe down!
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
lol
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 29, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
I dont know about #34
But Bennett does have more shiftiness than i remember him having…and on that terrible field nobody but the Bears can run on lol Even the Vike didnt cry that much about the field and their players slipped on crucial plays
When did Phil start playing rookies? With age brings wisdom lol
I think you meant #33.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Nov 30, 2010 7:25 AM CST up reply actions
4 touchdowns in one game!
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
My wife,
seems to think when the media jumps on the Bears bandwagon, it’s a bad sign. Hope she’s wrong. One analyst had them ranked 2nd and one ranked them 3rd in the NFC.
You know what else has them ranked 2nd in the NFC?
Their 8-3 record and leading their division.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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Tell her to
watch some ESPN cause not seeing many there saying Bears are top NFC teams….Starting to see some switch but not very many…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 29, 2010 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
I think he is referring to First Take
Their three debaters had the Bear as 2, 3, and 3 in their top 5 of the NFC.
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Is my mind a'goin on me or am I watchin you jibber jabber like some sorta jibberty box. Jibber Jabber on! Jibber Jabber on! -- Early Cuyler
First Take is in no way a legit program even if they are right.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Nov 30, 2010 7:27 AM CST up reply actions
One of the most clueless shows... constant chatter, no substance.
I haven’t watched First take for about 3 years and I’m smarter for it.
the 3debaters on First Take
are most likely the only ones that were sort of buying into the Bears (skip bayless more than anyone else because he is such a HUGE Cutler fan) even if one said that if samuels plays Cutler throws 3 picks…..
Everyone else on ESPN is still ripping on the Bears (tim hasselback just said the field was a reason the Bears won the game and still not buying into the Bears offense. If he was running a NFC team he would want the Bears in the playoffs)……dilfer said that the Bears are winning games with defense and a running game once they get into the Playoffs they CANNOT win that way because Cutler and the offense will have to win games so the Bears will be one and done IF they make the playoffs…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
by CloudyFuture on Nov 30, 2010 7:33 AM CST up reply actions
wait...isn't that EXACTLY HOW dilfer won a title?
besides the fact that cutler isn’t exactly having a poor season, the fact is, defense, running the ball, and special teams are precisely how most teams win the big game. i mean, i know dilfer is a moron, but this comment is pretty special, even for him.
by guy incognito on Nov 30, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
They've been a great under the radar team
In ’06 people realized they had a dominate defense and special teams, but Rexy ruined the perception that they were worthy of making the SB.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
It annoys the fuck out of me that such a big deal is being made about our "crappy" field.
We have had to deal with this shit for years and we haven’t exactly been a dominant football team at home. You mean to tell me that New York, Philadelphia, Green Bay, New England, Pittsburgh or any other football team that plays in an outdoor cold city stadium has a field that is in great condition. I’m sorry I’m unwilling to buy that argument. NFL players have had to play in incremental weather as well, which is even worse as far as I’m concerned. Its in baseball where the conditions of the field are a much greater concern.
48 minutes of intensity
While I agree with ya sport,
this isn’t an open thread. Watch the language or my kids won’t be allowed to read these posts.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
pittsburgh has the worst field in the league
from what i recall hearing numerous times. so…that means all the steelers wins in heinz field are tainted. right?
by guy incognito on Nov 30, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
3) We’ll be lucky to make the playoffs too.
4) Losing teams should not be let into the playoffs – should be best records only.
5) “Dude the Chiefs suck. You take away Dwayne Bowe and they are nothing.”
Take away Cutler and the Bears are nothing, what’s your point? The Chiefs are the leading rushers in the NFL, best O-line .. they don’t suck, they’re on top of their division with a decent record.
6) So much for the winning streak. The Jaguars finally go up against a good team and they get the “L”… figures…
7) And if Asante Samuel plays he gets 3 picks minimum.
> Agreed
10) Bottom line, if Steve Johnson doesn’t choke away the game winner the Steelers lose.
> He blamed God in one of his tweets.
Yet another skimmer...
reading is a skill… I just love blockquoting myself:
It seems no matter what some teams do, they’ll still have that group of media “experts” and in some cases pessimistic fans that just can’t help them selves from throwing some Haterade on the fire. So with that in mind my thoughts this week will take a more negative slant as I consume some sour grapes to get myself in the proper state to honor all of the haters.
I’ve been praising the Chiefs the last 4 or 5 weeks. I love their run game and their O-Line and said it was just a matter of time until Casell hits his stride in that offense.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 30, 2010 8:37 AM CST up reply actions
Losing teams should not be let into the playoffs – should be best records only.
I’ve been mulling this one for some time. Each Division has 6 games against division teams. So it’s possible to have a losing div. record and have a winning record. Division play isn’t the same as it used to be.
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
Enough time to add Derek Anderson pulling a Denny Green to this list?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
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