Teams Finding "New" Hole in Bears Tampa 2
Let me start off by saying that I like the Tampa 2 as a base defense. I've written about it a few times and I've defended it plenty. I think the Bears have the correct personnel to run that D, but like any other defense, it has it's weaknesses that can be exploited by a good offense. Any defensive scheme you choose to run is only as good as the players you have, and with better players in 2010 I'm not surprised the Bears are looking better on defense than the last few years.
A main concept of the defense is to keep everything in front of you and force the offense to execute long sustained drives to beat you. The thinking is that if an offense has to be precise for so long, eventually they'll make a mistake. It's a sound theory, but the trend I started seeing a lot last season, and again Sunday afternoon, was that teams were hitting a "new" soft spot in the Tampa 2. Now I'm only calling it "new" because it isn't as talked about as much as the other holes in the zone. But unless the Bears mix things up a bit, it could cost them a game or two along the way.
After the jump I'll get into the Cover 2 a little before tackling the Tampa 2, then finally get to my point... so please bear with me.
COVER 2
The traditional Cover 2 defense has it's holes. There have been countless articles written about where to attack that D that I'll just briefly gloss over them here. In the picture above (both pics from www.footballtimes.org) the yellow areas are the soft spots that offenses try to hit. Hitting a receiver when he runs past the corner, but before he makes it to his safety help, is the most talked about hole in the defense. The other hole in the Cover 2 is deep between the safeties. An offense running two receivers down the sidelines with a 3rd receiver running a post is a classic Cover 2 beater. As is running 4 verticals down the seams. A QB simply has to read which way the safeties cheat and throw the ball. I say simply because it's a read most experienced quarterbacks can make in their sleep. But even though it's a simple read, that doesn't always equate to the QB making a picture perfect throw, nor does it take into account if a front four is getting pressure. The holes are there, but an offense still has to execute.
TAMPA 2
In the Tampa 2 variation (the pic up there), again it's been much talked about, but the middle linebacker starts off in position like a traditional Cover 2 taking away the quick dumps or slants that would hit the shallow middle, but then he retreats to the deep middle. The theory behind this is that by the MLB going deep it allows the safeties to widen out and help close the usual holes along the sidelines quicker, and the MLB himself will help take away a deep post. Offenses still run the 4 verticals against this defense, the only variation is the inside receivers will run their routes down the seam based on the positions of the 3 deep defenders.
So now... I'll hit on my concern... More frequently teams have been running a receiver down the seam to make sure the middle linebacker clears from the short middle, then bring a receiver in behind where the MLB just vacated (the bottom tip of that middle oval). Throwing the little dump over the middle is about as easy as it gets for a QB. Last season Brett Favre did this time and time again against the Bears, then Sunday afternoon Michael Vick had some success doing the same thing.
I'd like to see defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli switch it up a bit and stray from the traditional Tampa 2 on occasion in late game situations. Have MLB Brian Urlacher feign a deep drop only to come back up to try and catch a QB assuming that sort middle is there for the taking, only to throw a pass at a receiver with #54 flying up to meet him.
The Bears have been dropping their defensive line in coverage a bit more this season, so after Urlacher bails deep middle the Bears could drop an 8th player into coverage from the line. It's a cheap way to take away that pass, but the downside is you only are rushing three. The lineman could take a step or two forward, making the offensive line commit, then back off to their zone.
One other variation I think we'll see is the Bears switching up which player takes the deep middle drop. The Tampa 2 is essentially a 3 deep 4 under zone, so the Bears could keep Urlacher in an under zone and drop Lance Briggs, PIsa Tinoisamoa, or a nickle back to the deep zone. If they guess which side the offense is trying to sneak a player into the middle from, they drop the opposite inside defender to the deep zone and they'll have it all bottled up.
Now all these holes shorten up the less field you have, which is why you hear the Bears defense referred to as a 'bend but don't break' defense. It will bend by making offenses patiently dink and dunk down field, only to have the Bears converge on the pass catcher. But those openings get tighter and tighter in the Red Zone, as offenses have less room to run their offense. The Bears have a sound game plan on defense, I'd just like to see them mix up their end of game calls just enough to keep offenses guessing.
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Great post Lester.
I was at the game Sunday and was in the endzone seats (section 219). From there it was very easy to spot this happening. Urlacher got beat countless times in the middle, and I kept wondering whether it was his poor positioning or what. I was actually going to research this, so thanks!
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It wasn’t him getting beat as much as it was the offense waiting for him to clear to a deeper zone then throwing where he was
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 30, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah.
What killed us was, while the pass rush contained Vick primarily, many pass plays allowed him lots of time to fin a receiver. It was very frustrating to see DeSean get loose across the middle. However, we prevented the big play, and that is what we needed to do.
By the way, if you a chance to go to a game, sit around 219. At first I thought they’d suck, but it was incredible to see whole plays develop. And it was fun to impress others by being able to accurately predict run vs. pass depending on the offensive set. Great experience.
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These are basics
Lach was opening up the middle cause priorities were
1) shut down the deep ball
2) dont’ loose outside contain on Vick
3) cover the short pass
Agreed.
Overall, we did a good job I think. Covering the short pass was suspect at times, but, as the article pointed out, the cover 2 can only do so much. And with a qb like Vick in there, the short pass defense could be sacrificed somewhat.
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Ya
that was getting me angry in the 4th when they did that like 3 times in a row or what ever…..It took time off the clock but man was I getting frustrated……
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by CloudyFuture on Nov 30, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Less time for the QB!!
All the more on the need for a crushing pass rush. With all 4 DLinemen going hard and fast, the QB has no tine to exploit this weakness as the “Mike” is still relatively close to the line of scrimage and has not vacated by drifting deeper.
pbanachi
Vick exploited this so often/obviously...
…that I can’t help but think Lovie and Marinelli will adjust. They are both smart defensive coaches. This season has reignited my faith in the cover-2 after last year when we had terrible safeties and linemen and a backup at MLB. Now that we actually have the skill at those positions it’s working brilliantly.
Vic Koenning is my homeboy.
by pygreg on Nov 30, 2010 11:31 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Great article
I don’t know if you want to have any other LB than #54 dropping back to the deep middle – nobody does it like him. However, I like the idea of faking the deep drop, then coming up to take away the middle pass. Of course, this is a gamble in the Tampa-2 where you leave the deep middle open, so it can’t be done too much.
No defense can stop everything all the time. If you have to take away an offensive weapon, you go with the deep pass. Cover-2 gives up more short plays and yards, but it forces teams to eat up more clock – not always good unless you have the lead, which the Bears fortunately did.
by NorthSideBearsFan on Nov 30, 2010 11:46 AM CST reply actions
as long as we get pressure with the front 4
..then you can gamble like this. i agree with you.
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What I like is
the defense is predicated by d-line push. Maybe not so much in the way of sacks, but by getting in QB’s face and forcing him to make quick reads. Hence, MLB (Urlacher) not having to sustain the deeper drop. The d-line did a great job on Sunday vs da Eagles.
I like how you’ve pointed out d-line dropping into coverage. Peppers has dropped into the flats many times, but the soft spot over the middle remains. Still, the personell is there like you’ve stated.
Great post!
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
The only issue
I have is when Urlacher feigns dropping deep like he normally does, and Briggs/Pisa do the same with their normal responsibility, there’s going to be openings because they’re switching responsibilities. The quick slant from Briggs side will be wide open for an instant. There will also be a problem with Lach getting over to cover a slot WR who just runs a five yard curl or something similar.
With that said, I’m in favor of mixing things up a bit every once in awhile in order to give the opposing QB a different look.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
The play with a different player going deep middle is in their playbook
It’s something I think they may pull out from time to time.. It ends up being a guessing game, what side do they think the offense will try and send a 2nd receiver through from, if they guess right the offense will be in trouble, if they guess wrong the shallow middle will just be there like always
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 30, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Interesting
How do you know it’s part of Lovie’s playbook? We need access to it immediately!
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Replay the game. Pause. Count coverage schemes.
Figure out what’s in his playbook.
It’s really not hard to find out the basic plays they’re using, it’s harder (or near impossible) to determine what techniques (or sometimes how) corners/safeties are playing.
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by awfullyquiet on Nov 30, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
it's a variation of the Tampa 2
dating back to the Tampa days, and Lovie and Rod cut their defensive teeth in the system back then, I’d be shocked if it isn’t in there…
And if I’m not mistaken, I’ve seen them run it on occasion in years past
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 30, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
It's there.
I think it gets used every game to some capacity… but it depends on a few factors:
1) Length of play
2) Nickel vs. 4-3
Especially with nickel coverage, sometimes it gets played in reverse where SS plays the middle, the LCB plays deep off the LOS (typical) drops deep to cover where the SS vacated, overload on the strong side, nickel shows blitz, drops to covers the 5-10 zone one the left side and urlacher, depending on the read at the beginning of the play either drops into shallow coverage of the swing, contain or blitzes.
On the weak side, it plays like a tampa two… CB plays short zone off the WR, tries to funnel the play towards the center of the field (and the waiting SS to either tackle or annihilate the WR).
Cover two. Two deep safeties keeping the play in front of them, tightening zones down based on down, distance, and game plan. Tampa 2 as a base formation is just that, as a whole has it’s weaknesses. The object is to get them to expect Tampa 2, and throw something at them that’s better at defending Tampa-2 beaters (4 verts, seam routes… most WCO staple plays). If you play T2, and play it well enough to be feared, you’re asking the offence to gamble on whether or not you’re playing it.
Defence is awesome.
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by awfullyquiet on Nov 30, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
They do.
I mean, they can’t…. and don’t run the same play every time.
I think they’ve been running the T2 a bit more lately, but… only because the coverage zones are tighter with everyone so healthy.
One of the better counters to T2 beaters are 3 under 3 deep fire zone blitzes, which is our most used zone blitz, as that leaves a LB (or DE) in in the short zones on the sideline… and a LB (or DE again) in the center… We’ve seen Idonije pop up in that short middle zone more than a few times to bat down the ball.
During the playcalling on Fox, they were absolute right in my mind of saying ‘Let Vick beat them with touch throws’. Make him make short passes into small windows. He isn’t the most accurate passer and has some issues with ‘touch’… It was a good gameplan, in my mind to give him the middle and see if he could keep his comp % up, which he did… BUT, the Bears defence… swarming as it is… limited YAC and stopped the run.
The best defence is not knowing what defence is coming.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 30, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
I like the 3 under 3 deep look
so much so, it’s in my playbook!
It lets the Bears send 1 extra defender or 2 sometimes with a dropping lineman
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 30, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
And they show 8 in the box... and still drop 3.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 30, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
thanks!
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 30, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
The Bears Have Been Using The Bast Tampa 2 Scheme
for years now. Their opponents know it but they are a top 5 defense.
Why? I think its because of their improved front four- with Peppers leading the way and it creates pressure on the QB before he can let the play develop.
I don't disagree
At the same time, the reason that spot was open so much late in the game is the bears felt they had a big enough lead to play their safeties 25 yards off the line of scrimmage therefore making the ground urlacher has to cover even greater. It’s pretty obvious this team is built around a bend don’t break philosophy of giving up a lot of yards but hoping to get a couple interceptions or forcing a fumble when a receiver does get the ball in his hands.
by lopey986 on Nov 30, 2010 1:12 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Oh yeah.
Opens up the 10-15 like crazy… forces all the LB’s to play deep on cover plays…
Surprisingly though there were quite a few cover 2 man under’s during the end of the game. Surprised we couldn’t come up with a pick (cough) in the end zone…
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 30, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
I really don’t like this tampa defense to be honest, but I am glad it is nasty.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
you can say that again...
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 30, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
Good one.
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tampa 2
I’ve never liked this defense either, I would rather we bring 8-9 on every pass play and dictate the flow of the game that way. Cover 2 just always seemed way too conservative to me, not enough blitzing for me. Glad we’re having success though.
Football isn't Madden.
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by awfullyquiet on Nov 30, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Partial Reply Fail.
You can’t consistently bring 8-9 on any given pass play
5? Sure. 6? Sometimes. But 8-9 is absolutely unrealistic and impossible.
The Bears blitz around 27% of the time? Why? Because it works, overloading on blitzes means nothing if you’re getting consistent pressure with a 4 man rush. Bringing more people doesn’t necessarily equate to better results.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 30, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
True true
I like the Tampa 2 now that we have decent players to play in it.
dear gar/pax,
trade for carmelo anthony.
thank you
also, i pulled 27% out of my bum.
as i remember reading that around 4 weeks ago.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 30, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Bring 8 or 9 on every play???
My 8th grade QB could complete passes against that D
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 30, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
8-9?
honestly your asking to lose i agree with awfully this isnt madden…. and if it was i would show you we dont send 8-9 every play
did i mention i love boobies?
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Dec 8, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
Just to add (and I'm no expert!)
But I bought the ‘85 bears DVD set over the summer, so I’ve been watching those quite a bit. That team was famed for the 46 defense where they brought 8-9 guys. They didn’t really run that defense all that much during the season (at least the games in the set, it’s missing 7 reg. season games) and even with Richardson and Frazier as corners they would occasionally get burned. I think what watching those games taught me is that a defense is situational, you get known for running a certain defense when you’re in certain situations.
The ’85 Bears loved to run the 46 when the offense was pinned back near their own goal line. The ’10 Bears run the T2 when they have a big lead and need to run time off the clock. This is, of course, a bit of a generalization because both teams run the “known” defense outside of these situations.
I think the thing that impressed me the most last Sunday was the way that the Bears ran the cover 2 on Philly’s last drive and they forced Vick to throw exclusively in the middle so the receivers couldn’t get out of bounds to stop the clock. The Eagles ate up a bunch of time on that last drive because they were out of time-outs and couldn’t get to the sideline. To me (and again, I’m not an expert) it was a clinic on the Lovie Smith bend-don’t-break philosophy. Well, that and trusting your hands team.
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Nov 30, 2010 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with you Lester,
Its not new, but we hardly ever talk about it.
As the other posters have said above, every defense has its holes. And this has been one on our defense for YEARS. But when we are healthy on D, it doesn’t matter. I’ll give up that small 4 yard gain from time to time. Why? Because I know that it’s a small price to pay for not giving away the big play, and I know that the opposing receiver will get tired of being smeared across the field by going across the middle on our ferocious D.
Last year, when Urlacher was out and we were getting NO pass rush, we could never get off the field, especially on third downs. All the QB had to was hit the guy underneath for the first down on a quick slant. Or if our MLB committed to underneath, we’d get burned for long completions deep down the middle. The opposing QB had all day to wait for the opening to develop.
That’s precisely why Urlacher is the key to this defense. Every single play he has to make that judgement call, whether to start going deep with the TE/slot, or sit on the underneath route/runner. And only he is athletic and smart enough to fly to where he needs to be. Look at that chart above. Urlacher has more ground to cover than the safeties! As much I loved HH, he didn’t have the athleticism to do what was asked of him. Even if he made the right read, the receiver would get way more yardage than what Urlacher would’ve allowed underneath, or over the top he would get burned. Roach would commit way too early and get caught out of position.
So besides Urlacher being healthy, why the big change from being awful last year and good this year? Here are a few:
-Good tackling. The defense is playing with INTENSITY this year with Peppers and Urlacher leading the way. Every tackle they make looks like it hurts. Last year, I don’t know how many broken or missed tackles opponents got on us. This year, it’s not happening. Sure, go across the middle. You’ll get 3-5 yards, but it will hurt.
-Pressure. Alot of times, the dump off over the middle for a sure gain takes a little time to develop if a runner has to come out of the backfield, etc. Peppers and Co. aren’t giving the Q that much time anymore. Sure we still get the quickslant thrown on us, or the QB will fit a tight ball between urlacher and a safety for a completion, but it’s been way harder to do this year.
-Tight coverage. Last year, the zone was really, really sloppy. Manning was suffering from DMS, a quarter of the D was constantly injured, and the pass rush sucked. How many times did you see a good QB hit a guy wide open and think “How was he not covered?” That should never happen in a zone. Undisciplined coverage will kill a defense, especially a zone. I think that when we have healthy and superior athletes on the field, the less we complicate things, the better. Cut down on mistakes, and let your athleticism be the difference maker.
-Accountability. We saw it early on. You won’t play disciplined? You’ll ride the pine, buddy. Mental error? Plenty of time to think about that on the bench, kid. The combination of leadership on the field and on the sidelines has helped this team tremendously.
If we get a key injury again this season, our D could go from great from mediocre real soon. So lets all cross our fingers, knock on wood, do whatever you can to give us the luck to keep the injury bug away.
yupp
i kinda stopped reading after the first 1000 words, but i agree
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thank you
Urlacher's beastlyness really helps run the Tampa 2
The players and scheme have to work together and the Bears D is in sync with the scheme.
To be honest...
you are correct, that talent makes a defense as much as any scheme. To my mind, Urlacher is the prototype of a MLB for the Tampa 2. His loss obviates how much he matters to the Bears success on defense. Add Peppers and the Bears defense is top 5. For the Eagles game and Mike Vick especially, the Tampa 2 was the best defensive scheme to play regardless of what a team’s base D is. The problems I have with the way the Tampa 2 has been run in Chicago under Lovie are:
1. It relies too heavily on Urlacher to be great.
2. Lovie has done an abysmal job of getting the proper safeties through FA or developed through the draft.
3. Lovie stayed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long with T Harris as a bad excuse for the 3-tech.
4. Lovie has relied far too heavily on the talent to make up for the scheme’s weaknesses.
My biggest criticism of Lovie all along is his inability to adjust his tactics, he simply installed his defense and demanded the players execute it. Rivera understood how to mix in elements of Jim Johnson’s pressure blitzes and it helped to augment the Tampa2 base and confuse opposing offenses. Lovie’s arrogance and inflexibility has wasted 3+ years of a good players and draft talent. I am ecstatic the Bears have found success running this defense thus far this season, but if Lovie wants to do more than just enough to keep his job (like actually winning the SB) he either needs to get better at picking/developing talent and/or get a DC that can think outside of the Tampa2 once in a while.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
in regards to ...
1) The Tampa 2 needs that fast athletic MLB to cover ground
2) The safeties are playing good this year… having that veteran back and having Manning play to his potential are big
3) You don’t like Tommie??? He’s not the same player, he may never be, but in small doses he’s able to make some plays
4) Stop with the fallacy of Rivera blitzing. The SB year the Bears ran more straight Tampa 2 than any other year since. The reason, the players were all playing good. The last few years the Bears have been near the top in % of time blitzed. I like Ron Riveria, and I think he got a raw deal, but make no mistake about it, he ran a ton of Lovies Tampa 2 that season.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 30, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Why #4)?
Because it worked.
Why now? Because it works.
Now, what tactics are you asking Lovie to do? (Prepare for inevitable tactics vs strategy conversation as well)… Because, to me… it sounds like you’re uncomfortable with is strategy of playing conservative, keep the ball in front of you, let the offence make the mistake sort of defence.
But, what type of ‘tactics’ do you want them to do? Blitz more than the league average? What is that going to accomplish? Confuse opposing offences? That’s exactly what the hallmark of this defence is. Confuse coverages via fire zones, tampa 2’s and cover 4’s… you see 8 on the line, 4 drop into coverage. 1 drops into coverage…
I don’t know exactly what you’re trying to say that they do and do not do. You want a pressure blitz system, it’s similar to the zone blitzes that lovie & co. run, yes, not at the same percentage that philly and mcdermott run it, but, competently indeed. what it seems like you’re asking to do is to blitz: 4 more times a game. (go from 27% to 37%). What will this accomplish that what we’re doing doesn’t?
More turnovers? More stops? More sacks?
I’m curious to what your opinion is on this.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 30, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Are your replying to me or Lester?...
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
Yours.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 30, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
My complaints are not about the Tampa2 per se...
I simply dislike how dogmatically Lovie has chosen to use it over his coaching tenure. It has proven effective this season, especially when the Bears offense is scoring points. IMO, Peppers has made this defense better, not Lovie or the scheme. As far as tactics, the Bears really have not shown the ability to blitz or play man coverage very effectively. I am not saying they have to blitz more or less, just be more clever about disguising it or back out of the Tampa2 shell once in a while. It’s the inability to make any changes to the tactical arrangement of the defense that I am referring to; see that last 3 seasons for reference. I don’t care if Lovie wants to be conservative philosophically, I would like to know that Lovie can do something other than hope his team remains disciplined and executes when they are faced with a team that exploits their known weaknesses.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
What's going on here ...?!
All I saw last year was fans whining about the Cover 2 – blaming the scheme. Having a joke linebacker in the Mike and no pass rush didn’t seem to figure into the equation it was all “the scheme sucks. The scheme!”. Your Chicago Bears Cover 2 a la Maranelli/Smith, has meant that we ….
Lead the league in :
- Fewest points allowed
- Stopping opponents on 3rd down
- Forced fumbles
- Interceptions
- Average starting position.
Nearly leading the league in :
- Fewest passing TDs allowed (8, one behind the Saints with 7)
- Rushing defense (2nd)
In all the important statistical categories – and pass yards aren’t as important – we’re the best all-round defense in the NFL whichever way you slice it. …with the Cover 2 as our base package.
And can we stop calling it Tampa 2, we play in Chicago…. Cover 2 or Chicago 2
I am not sure how many times...
I have to restate what I have already written. So I’ll assume you are just venting about the topic in general. Lovie could be running the 3-4 or the 46 defenses for all I care. My complaint is not the scheme, but Lovie’s almost religious use of it as the Holy Grail of defenses. The 2006 “Chicago2” was 5th overall being slightly better against the run. In 2007, with the loss of Terry “Tank” Johnson, they fell to 28th. Yes, the vaunted “Chicago2” was slightly better than the Browns/Bills/Lions. Tank was not much of a pass rusher and Urlacher was playing the MLB. The following 2 seasons they rose to 21st and 17th. Yes they got better without Urlacher in the lineup at MLB. Now I am not trying to say that the defensive woes are easily attributable to players or schemes, just simply that being “one-dimensional” in any facet of a team’s game plan is usually less than effective. I am also not saying the Bears have to whole-heartedly abandon the "Chicago2’ forever. I noticed the Bears having more success early in the Eagles game by mixing in some man coverages and some well designed twists and LB blitzes and those are the little adjustments and “tactics” that I’d like to see the Bears use to keep from being stagnant on defense and thus beatable.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
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I don't get it
first you say Lovie is dogmatic and won’t change up his D, then you say you saw some different things early in the game.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
3-4 isn't a scheme, it's a formation ...
And Peppers makes the Cover 2 work, but he’s hardly the sole reason we’re better on defense this year. If you need to point at one guy for some reason (it’s a team game after all) – point at Lobo. The Hurt Locker.
And we’re not one-dimensional. We play single-high safety and quarter/quarter/half or whatever they call it, too ….
All I know is we’re the best defense in the NFL all-round where it counts. i could care less about yards given up in the air, that stat is next to meaningless. Takeaways and keeping people out of the endzone is all that counts. And we’re the best at that. Full marks to the Sideline Yoda, Rod Maranelli. The defense is not the place we need to be concerned about ….
So if the Bears ran the West Coast Offense
Would you have it’s name changed to the ChiTown Offense?
It’s called the Tampa 2 because that’s what it’s called.
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 30, 2010 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yes.
All things Chicago.
Chicago Dave
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
got it!
West Coast Offense = ChiTown Offense
Air Coryell Offense = The Chicago Air Show
Tampa 2 = Chicago 2
Cover 2 = The Original Chicago 2
The Wildcat = The Northwestern
The Run and Shoot = The Capone
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 1, 2010 8:48 AM CST up reply actions
Wildcat=Illini (either way)
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Never heard a Bear call it the Tampa 2 ....
Based on perhaps, but there’s got top be Bear-related wrinkles in there. Using your own rationale – why call it the Tampa 2? Dungy just took it from his days playing with the Steelers, so why change its name to Tampa 2 in that case. It’s Cover 2, period. The linebacker drops back. That’s not a different scheme. It’s exactly the same scheme, that’s my point.
The Linebacker doesn't drop deep in the Cover 2
He drops deep in the Tampa 2
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 2, 2010 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
Well..
we can argue about the Rivera thing, but it’s probably more of a semantic debate about defining the “blitz”. In all, I see very good reason to run the Tampa2 with Urlacher being your best defensive player (specifically when Lovie showed up), you run a defense predicated to his strength. Again the issues I have with Lovie in general are about his ability to do anything other then beat his head against the dogma he preaches. He was simply unable to choose or develop the proper talent to run his defense (players and coaches) and that’s why i am such a harsh critic of Lovie. I may not be a huge fan of the Tampa2, but it is effective with the proper personnel. The problem has been that Lovie had 2 choices; be good at picking/developing Tampa2 players or adjust the Tampa2 to suit the players he had; and he did neither for the past 3 seasons.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
your argument dosen't hold up
The players on todays team were picked or developed by Lovie and they are doing very well. You might say The Bears opponets are beating their heads against Lovie’s Dogma and Lovie is winning.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Whoa.
I’m not a Lovie fan per se, but defensively you have to hand it to him. And last year wasn’t his fault. Blame Angelo gfor the roster. last year, pre-season I was shouting from the roof -tops “What happens if Cutler or Urlacher get injured?”‘. Angelo has us p1ssing into the wind. Game one, down goes Urlacher AND Pisa. Hardly Lovie’s fault and a huge reason the defense sucked. That and no decent safeties. Lovie doesn’t choose the talent per se, Angelo does ultimately, so you can’t blame him for that too. Angelo has always been the cancer on this team. He needs to be cut out. When healthy, his defenses have performed. Currently, they’re the best IMHO. Our offense has always been the weak link in the chain – and that is 100% on Angelo, blowing pick after pick and totally ignoring the O-line. Our two best lineman are very very close to retirement.
Love it!
As a UK based NFL junky I dont get to chat in depth about the finer points of NFL with my buddies who are too busy with made-for-pansies-soccer. Since finding this site a year or so back I have loved visiting it every day or so… and its posts and threads like this that bring me back day after day.
Thanks Lester and co.
my take, for what little its worth, is that the scheme is ideal for the personnel… we don’t have a LB core who can blitz more than occasionally in my opinion… but we do have a LB core that could tackle Mr Ridiculous (luckily he is on our team though)
Peppers was a key piece to the puzzle too – last year there was no pass rush.
Homefield advantage is going to get us to the superbowl again… this time we have Jay instead of Rex.
It's not that we can't blitz ... it's that we don't ...
… Daniel Manning is one of the fastest DBs in the league. Our Sam and Will are perfect for blitzing, being smaller than the average LB. If you blitz, you leave a hole for every person that blitzes, that doesn’t play with the bend-don’t-break Cover 2. And when we were injured last year and couldn’t hold up the Cover 2 we blitzed more than anybody ….
That makes 3 of us from the UK that I’m aware of.
Also, it’s corps. Don’t let the Americans taint your English ;-D
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Tampa 2, Cover 2 whatever
It is amazing to read all these post and your initial column about the Bear’s Defensive scheme. Every few months you seem to write an article praising or explaining the Tampa or Cover two to all of us dimwits. as I have responded every time, it success is all predicated on D-line pressure. I can not believe so many people believe Urlacher is the key to it. By the way, Urlacher is still very good but in now way can he dominate from the position like when he was younger. The pressure is a little better than it has been from the front four in recent years making the back 7 look better. If you noticed in the Eagles game When the Bears could not get to Vick he kind of picked it apart. Yes the defense looks improved but thank Peppers and the unknown D-line more than a Superman like campfire tale about Urlacher covers the world.
Both go hand in hand
The speed of the coverage gives the d-line time to make a play. It’s very symbiotic.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 30, 2010 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
Urlacher *is* the key ...
He’s the Mike. He’s responsible for the sight adjustments, playcall communication, morale, troop movement, runs up the gut, deep passes down the seam, the entire middle third of the field …. which part of being the key does he not play?
Last year = one of the worst Bear defenses ever. MLB = Hunter ‘I have the body of a safety’ Hillenmeyer.
This year = One of the best. Brian’s back.
Yes, we have Julius now, but he’s mostly effective in the pass rush, tackling in the run game, not so much. Go check out his tackles. He was tied for 318th in the league a couple of weeks ago …
Not just last year
The Bears defense fell fast starting in the Super bowl season when Tommie Harris went down. That year, the one season that he looked unstoppable Tank Johnson looked like a star because of him. Remember that was the beggining of the no pressure picked apart by any QB on the roster that we have seen basically until this year. If I remember correctly Urlacher has been the MLB for most of the time and the defense still stunk. The bears simply were not getting sacks or pressure. Our sack leader last year was either Brown or Ogunlye or both with 6. Do not misunderstand me, Urlacher is still very good, if he switched places with Ray Lewis they would find out Lewis is not as good as they think he still is. What I am saying is the MLB in the cover or tampa 2 is a young man with freak speed position. Their are very few who can play it well period and if they could the window for playing it at a high level is small. I love the Bears, I have just come to detest the defensive scheme over the last 5 years. I just think it is to hard to sustain without catching youth and speed in a bottle every few seasons or so
Check out our record with and without Urlacher ...
We only ever truly ‘stank’ as a defense when Hattie Hillenmeyer was in the Mike. We were lost at sea without him in there last year. Urlacher is the heart and soulf of this team, not just the defense, because the Defense is this team. We’re not 8-3 because of the offense, that’s for sure. With an average offense over the 11 games we’d be be 10-1, maybe unbeaten. Go figure.
Don't call yourself a dimwit
And this article was more or less a recap to get me back around to explain the area teams are starting to exploit… The void in the short middle when the mike backer retreats
I’m not sure if you are talking about any Superman reference I made, because I didn’t make one. Urlacher, even in his 30’s, is still the prototype MLB to play in the Tampa 2… Just check out what Wally&Mac said down there. He summed it up perfectly.
But I will say that with no pressure no defense will have any success.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 30, 2010 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Superman was my own
What you said in your last sentence is what I have said each time I have responded to you writing about the cover two. I said every defense gets figured out and the cover two was dead. Of course that as a slight over reaction but my reason is it takes too much team speed besides D-line pressure to be really effective. While it looks like there have been improvements this year it is mostly because of D-line pressure than anything. they still play the corners softer than they did in 05, 06. Waiting for the Qb to make mistakes takes a lot longer with no pressure and soft coverage. I just got tired of wacthing the last several years of the supposed bend but don,t break D that was picked apart by almost everyone. The Bears were one of the worst defensive teams for several seasons on allowing 3rd down conversions of more than 10 yds. Listen, I think it looks better this year but I am not completely sold on it. Without the pressure coming from a stud DT or two allowing Peppers to run wild, i am still a little skeptical.
Yeah, I noticed that a lot too.
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Great post!
Love the fun reads to kill a bit of time at night from u guys. I could see them mixing it up a bit, but I think a lot of the calls this past game may have been due to the fact that we had and held the lead for pretty much the whole game, so Urlacher kept dropping back just to prevent any huge plays from breaking out.
BS.
I’m calling BS on this …
Cover 2 = Tampa 2 = The Steel Curtain defense. There’s no difference. Dungy took it from the Steelers, Lovie took it from Dungy. Call it the Chicago 2 if anything cos that’s what it is. Smith and Maranelli will have their own wrinkles in there. The only difference will be in sight adjustments, and no one here knows Maranelli’s adjustments. The MLB can drop deep in Cover 2 if he reads pass. You want to call the defense something else because the Mike drops back? Go ahead. Have him drop back just a bit and call it the Christmas defense. Knock yourself out. Just because there aren’t any nice yellow holes in the ‘Tampa 2’ diagram doesn’t mean there aren’t any holes. There are holes and seams and vulnerable points in all defensive schemes.
In football terminology the Cover 2
is that top diagram… The Tampa Bay Buccaneers started exclusively dropping the mike deep tuning the Cover 2 into kind of a delayed Cover 3… and it started to be known as the Tampa 2 in order to differentiate the two defenses.
And the “yellow holes” are still there. Those diagrams were made by whoever to show how the MLB dropping would help take away some of the usual holes.
You can get mad about the terminology all you want, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is what it is. A relative terminology pet peeve of mine is the “Wildcat”, just because the Dolphins started calling it that, that doesn’t make it the Wildcat!!! It’s just a zone read/spread/single wing concept! Ugh!
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 30, 2010 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Wally
The cover 2 and the Tampa 2 are completely different
When the Mike drops back into deep coferage down the middle of the field its called tampa 2
when he stays inside the underneath zone its called Cover 2
When running it in essence its more like a funky cover 3.
Instead of it being 1 safety 2 cb’s its 2 safeties 1 lb
did i mention i love boobies?
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Dec 8, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Nicely done, sir
This article and ensuing comments kept me entertained at the Baltimore airport today, but I was too lazy to sign in on my blackberry to rec it, (“a technicality that will shortly be remedied”)
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Great explanation
Mr. LAW,
Very good explanation and diagram of the cover two, but especially Tampa cover two.
I’ve seen X’s and O’s many times and kind of understood, much clearer and cleaner sense of our defnse.
Thank you
parkee
thanks
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 1, 2010 8:31 AM CST up reply actions
One of your better posts Coach Wiltfong. And that's saying something
Hopefully Lovie & Co. will throw in a tweek or two, to keep the opposing offenses honest.
Wts, I’ll also hope they don’t out smart themselves in the process.
they'll stay true to what they are
but I think Marinelli will have to mix it it just a bit, especially vs. the Patriots
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 1, 2010 8:32 AM CST up reply actions
Truer words were never spoke my friend
especially vs. the Patriots
Because the Pats offence is predicated on...
Beating up the middle of the field. I can see the bears playing linebackers off the line and giving the pats the run, instead opting for more midfield pass protection, 2 deep 4 under’s… Without Randy Moss taking someone exclusively to pick off the deep ball, playing 4 under isn’t necessarily a bad idea.
That said, I haven’t seen the pats play this season. Just twice.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
Certainly can't play the safeties back that deep. Brady would have another perfect game.
Have to blitz the boy wonder.
In Maranelli we trust ...
Maranelli showed the NFL how to game-plan for Vick. See tribune article. Our boys were well schooled. He’ll know what to do with Brady, even if we don’t …

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