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A Team from the NFC North Should Head To LA (But Not The Chicago Bears)

In 1995, Fútbol Americano was exploding. Coming out of the debacle that was the 1994 baseball strike, the American public was ready for America's Game to occupy the space held by it's old pasttime.

Something else happened in 1995, too. The city of Los Angeles, second most populated city in all of the United States, lost the football teams that it had. 

Yes, you read that right. Teams. Plural. In one year, the Raiders returned to Oakland, and the Rams moved to St. Louis, 261 miles from the Chicago Bears. So it came to be that  one of the largest markets in America had not two, not one, but no teams in the NFL.

It's widely believed that the league would like to rectify this, but it's not likely that they would want to expand the league at this time. Thus, this team would have to be an already established team that's looking to move on. There are two teams that could possibly be ready for such a move, and one that actually stands a pretty good shot of exactly that happening. Here's a look at the situations that those teams find themselves in.

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Some West Coast Groundwork

There are parties in Los Angeles that want a team. Very badly. For a while now, Majestic Realty, often represented by vice president, John Semcken, has been saying that it will privately finance a new stadium, that could also host soccer and other events. This stadium would be about 15 miles out from the city, and would include a "fun-park" type atmosphere in the lots and the surrounding areas. The hang up for them, as he discussed on the radio a few weeks ago, is that they simply have to wait until they get a team that's willing to move, or a team they can get part ownership in. 

Additionally, AEG, the company that owns the Staples Center, amongst other things, has recently announced their own plan for a Los Angeles "events center" that would actually, you know, be in Los Angeles. This "events center" would be part of a large complex that could host NFL, the Super Bowl, soccer, and other events, including concerts. AEG believes very strongly in this deal, and believes strongly that a team is actually interested in coming.  A concern for Los Angeles has always been that they were being used as leverage to develop stadium deals in other cities. 

"I think it's probably closer than you might think, " Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, a member of the league's Los Angeles Stadium Working Group committee, told the Daily News this month. "There's a lot of very qualified people and energy being expended to get that team in the L.A. area."

Take it how you'd like, but generally speaking, when Jerry Jones says something is going to happen--it's probably going to happen.

So how does the NFC North play into it? There are two franchises there who have been caught in the rumors to be moved. (Another rumor-popular team is the Jaguars of Jacksonville, who have had regular problems drawing attendance with up-and-down performance over the past 15 years.)

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The Detroit Lions

The Detroit Lions have been beset by problems over the last 15 years. Since 1996, they've gone 71-160, with just 2 winning seasons during that time. Additionally, they had the honor--if you could call it that--of going 0-16 for the first time in the history of the NFL. Until very recently, they could almost be considered a guaranteed victory for any NFL team that happened to be average or better.

Recently, though, something crazy has been happening in Detroit. With young talent and decent coaching, they are competitive in game. One more thing they could possibly use would be a change of scenery. The breath of fresh air, and being able to get out from under the weight of the history of the franchise, could be the things they need to really break out. 

However, this doesn't seem likely to happen. They recently received a new place to play (2002), and their underdog identity is tied to the city. Additionally, they're seeing an increase in attendance, and a shift towards the right things happening. These are not the kind of situations that usually see a team departing town. The Lions seem like a growing threat, and are likely to remain in their city for the foreseeable future.

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The Minnesota Vikings


The Minnesota Vikings, on the other hand, are in a completely different place. Division Champions for the past two years, they have always been a solid, if ultimately unsuccessful franchise. They're the kind of team that has always given their opponent a run, and generally speaking, have been a good franchise, especially on the field.

But the reason that they're in jeopardy of leaving town isn't necessarily that the on-field product has been underwhelming, but indeed may come down to the business side of things (and what doesn't these days?)

It's no secret that Vikings owner Zygi Wilf has been pushing for a new stadium for several years. They have recently stopped sharing the Metrodome with the Minnesota Twins, who just got a new ball park. The hang-up is that Wilf would like the public of Minnesota to fund nearly two-thirds of the stadium. Minnesota legislators, however, are not in the mood or position to approve the building of a nearly billion dollar stadium. Neither are some other members of the public community.  From The Minnesota Daily editorials yesterday:

In the past, we've called on lawmakers to make a new Vikings stadium a priority, and we do so again now. But the Vikings should be realistic in their requests. Owner Zygi Wilf must accept that for a solution to be found, the ownership needs to foot a bigger portion of the bill. More private financing is the only fiair answer to this question.

Additionally, there are questions about whether something can be done in time, given that the lease the Vikings have ends after the 2011 season. In the event that a stadium is approved come spring, there'd have to be an additional deal made for the Vikings to continue play until it could be completed, which would not be for several years. 

However, the Vikings should really look strongly at a move. The Vikings are ranked 30th on Forbes NFL Franchise Valuation list. A move to Los Angeles would inject a new burst of life into the franchise, and allow them the opportunity to get in on some of the additional lucrative deals that come along with a new stadium (licensing rights, etc.) Additionally, the newly generated revenue from merchandising and increased ticket values will help pad Zygi's wallet, as it were. Given the need to add value, and the strong desire of the NFL to have a franchise in Los Angeles, it seems like a move to Los Angeles would be to the benefit of all parties except the fan base in Minnesota.

The Aftermath

So if the Vikings made a move to Los Angeles... what would happen? It would seem the clear answer would be that a divisional realignment would be required. With the Rams in the Midwest, and the Vikings on the West Coast, it would simply require swapping their divisions. The Vikings would get the benefit of playing in the historically (at least recently) weaker NFC West, and the Rams would no longer have to make three separate trips to the West Coast, an unfortunate bit of scheduling that has occurred for them for the past 16 years.

More will be known about what the Vikings plans will be when spring comes, and the movement gets back in front of the legislature. Until then, what are your feelings about a move? Good idea? Bad idea? Let's get some discussion going.

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L.A. is a weak town for football. The Los Angeles Rams were roundly booed, abused and ignored in their own stadium. The only time they ever had much interest was the 70’s with legends like Jack Youngblood on the team and a superbowl appearance. There’s more to having a successful franchise than sheer population numbers. The NFL needs to remeber that the culture in LA is very, very different than it is in the upper midwest. (I’ve lived in both places) There’s more to making a successful franchise than the size of the television market and numbers of people who might buy tickets. I think it’d be a big mistake taking a team like the Vikings out of their loyal fanbase market simply because the owner doesn’t want to pony up his share for a stadium. Expansion is the way to go.

by TheotherDane on Nov 4, 2010 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Counterpoint: The Los Angeles Lakers

Who had even more success in LA than they did in Minnesota, which is by all accounts, remarkable as they won 5 championships there.

Additionally, moving allows the benefits of an established franchise re-injected into an audience they’re trying to grow: the Hispanic market. Southern California contains a very large hispanic population that shouldn’t be ignored.

The next team to be in LA is not going to come from expansion. Is having 32 current teams really the best for the NFL? The current “parity”, is that because everyone’s generally competitive, or because the player pool isn’t large enough? Would having more teams make that better, somehow?

With regards to the loyal fanbase angle, while it would indeed suck, it’s not like there isn’t precedent. Look at the Ravens, Titans, Colts, and others. Hell, I’m sure the Bears had a dedicated fanbase when they were the Decatur Staleys, but that doesn’t mean that staying in Decatur would have been good. In fact, it wouldn’t have. I’ve been there.

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by Kev H on Nov 4, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Point well taken

and as I completely ignore basketball I’m not qualified to debate the finer points between the fan bases. I do remember the reluctance of the NFL last expansion round to place a team in LA (they chose Houston and Tennessee? Houston I can see but Tennessee was a gamble imo) due to memories of the behavior of Raider Nation at the Colleseum and the fact that the Rams really couldn’t wait to get out of town. Gerome Bettis has commented numerous times that LA doesn’t deserve a football team due to the way they were treated in the waning years of the Rams time there. Maybe LA is ready for a team again after a 15 year absence, but I still feel there’s more to the story then stadiums and who’s going to pay for them.

by TheotherDane on Nov 4, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clarification

Let me clarify that yes I know the Titans used to be the Houston Oilers. However, the NFL owners allowed the franchise to move to Tennessee and that’s what I consider the gamble of an untested market.

by TheotherDane on Nov 4, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

they've also gambled on Jacksonville

Hoping to take the college town energy and push it towards pro.

Not so effective.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

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by Robert Rence on Nov 4, 2010 6:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

How many pro team does Florida really need?

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by Just Dave on Nov 4, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dammit!! Rather "TeamS"

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by Just Dave on Nov 4, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously, I'd be displeased.

But, when dealing with large-scale change, you’re not just uprooting a team, you’re uprooting all of it’s rivalries as well. If MN moved and caused a divisional switch, would people drive to St. Louis against the “hated” Rams? We’re relatively lucky with how close all of our teams are to one another. It’s actually reasonable to drive to games with our divisional rivals. For that to change would, well, suck.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

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by Robert Rence on Nov 4, 2010 6:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Eventually, yes.

There was not a natural Brewers-Cubs rivalry. It developed rather quickly, pending the Brewers change from the AL to the NL.

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by Kev H on Nov 4, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

PS

I’m not trying to slight you guys as fans. It just seems, business-y, that it might be a good idea for Zygi to split..

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by Kev H on Nov 4, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least, not you.

Maybe others. But you’re cool.

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by Kev H on Nov 4, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll see what our new state congress says

Leadership changed hands in both the legislature and executive branches. Hopefully that’ll make it easier to get a stadium.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

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by Robert Rence on Nov 4, 2010 6:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was under the impression

from what I was reading while researching this that the new Republican control might make it more difficult.

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by Kev H on Nov 4, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't looked into any commentary since the election.

But that would surprise me a bit.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

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by Robert Rence on Nov 4, 2010 8:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Holy shit.

Minnesota’s legislation is now under republican control? I believe this is the first sign of the apocalypse.

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by Just Dave on Nov 4, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jesse The Body needs to get back into politics...

One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 5, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

no, he doesn't

He’s more interested now in tossing around conspiracies theories and making rounds on talk shows to plug his latest book. Not really what i’d call leadership material.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

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by Robert Rence on Nov 5, 2010 6:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

St. Louis is closer to Chicago than Minneapolis.

As a Cubs fan I’d say I could find it in me to hate another St. Louis team. I’d much rather keep hating the Vikings though.

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by mjk83 on Nov 17, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

i think that

the jacksonville jaguars should be the ones (if any) to move out to LA. maybe they would have more luck making money there because they aren’t getting it done where they are at now.

by reefermadness3 on Nov 4, 2010 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Jags to LA makes sense

only because Florida has too many…

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 5, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Jaguars have sold out all of their games this season. Beyond the disaster year last year, the team has been in the middle of the league in attendance

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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 5, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

well then

i was under the erroneous impression that the jags were having issues selling out their stadium. my bad.

hey question for you kind sir. who wears 94, and do they happen to own a very uh, colorful RV? spotted this unique vehicle when i was in orlando back in january but never saw who owned it.

by reefermadness3 on Nov 5, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

No problem. The national media is lazy when it comes to Jacksonville and it rubs off an everyone.

94 is currently Jeremy Mincey. Not sure if he owns a RV or not.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 6, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought the solution last year was to tarp over seats effectively reducing stadium capacity to claim sellouts and prevent blackouts

So two part question, did that happen and if so have they un-tarped the seats for this season?

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by SaintCee on Nov 6, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seats have been tarped over since 2004. Untarped, Jacksonville has the 6th largest stadium in the NFL. When the stadium was built, the team wanted a stadium with a capacity around 65,000, but the city wanted to keep the Florida/Georgia game in town, so a bigger stadium was needed. So to answer your question, the tarps haven’t come off and won’t for awhile.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 7, 2010 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

LA is not a football town

Where exactly do you play the games, for one, besides the stadium that was already decrepit when the Raiders played there? Or the fictional one that doesn’t exist until someone commits to move and won’t be ready to move into for at least a year?

For two, how does a transplanted franchise from out of state do well there when long-established local teams couldn’t?

For three, the Vikings are in decline, and not likely to reload, but rather to rebuild, and therefore be at the bottom of whatever division they inhabit for a number of years. Are the ‘fans’ in LA willing to support that, given that they couldn’t or wouldn’t support a perennial playoff team in the Raiders?

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by NobodySpecial on Nov 4, 2010 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree with everything except point three.

If a team made it’s way to my hometown I’d be more than happy. Would I get behind a good team right off the bat? Sure. What I’d enjoy more though is a struggling team to come in, build it’s fanbase as it rebuilds the team, and both the fans and team enjoy the success which should eventually come.

Granted I’m talking about myself personally and not the LA ‘fans’, but I would love nothing more than a struggling team to make it’s way to Alabama, build the team from the bottom-up, and earn the fans’ trust. Of course this is coming from a guy living in a state where the only professional sports team is a minor league club called the ‘Biscuits’. Ugh!

Maybe LA doesn’t deserve a team.

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by Acreman20 on Nov 4, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Counterpoint

The USC Trojans play in the Coliseum. It could easily host NFL games again until a new stadium was ready.

Additionally, part of the problem with the Raiders is that they came from Oakland….not that far, and they had a fan base that was considered, politely, “rowdy.”

The Rams…I don’t know as much about, to be honest. They had some good teams, they had some bad teams. I’m not sure why they never caught on.

Additionally, you do have something built in that’s somewhat subconscious—color scheme. Don’t think that it wouldn’t be easier for LA to adopt another team that’s purple and yellow.

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by Kev H on Nov 4, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Memorial Coliseum?

Don’t think so. No luxury boxes, no suites. No significant upgrades since the ‘90s. 100,000 seats to be filled, which guarantees local blackouts. Having to share the facility with USC. A year plus possibly more depending on construction of the Industry City stadium with lower revenue than Wilf could get staying in the Metrodome? I’m not seeing it without financial guarantees to the Vikings that LA can’t promise, thanks to the state’s crazy tax structure and financial crises.

The Rams left because Georgia wanted a new stadium and the city refused to provide one – and Georgia cited lack of finances as a reason for the move. Ironically for your idea, the Vikings opposed the move.

As far as the Raiders go, Davis was looking for a way out long before the team moved back to Oakland, because the city refused to fund promised upgrades to the Coliseum.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Nov 4, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

No thanks

I believe Detroit embraces its underdog status and as you mentioned they are building a solid team. Plus the town has one of the highest unemployment rates nation wide and fans still attend games.

As for the Vikes, the owner needs to man up and build a stadium themselves. Making taxpayers foot the bill is ludicrous in a billion dollar business. If I am not mistaken they have not had problems putting butts in the seats. Threatening to move a franchise on the sole basis of exploiting taxpayers should be a crime. Now if the city chose to loan money to be paid back over time that is their prerogative to ensure professional football stays in their state.

As for L.A., their state already has a team, embrace it or watch basketball. They have no one but themselves to blame for running of their own franchises.

by TheMan1 on Nov 4, 2010 8:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Actually

in the 2008 season, the Vikings almost didn’t sell out a playoff game.

California actually has 3 teams. But that shouldn’t mean anything. Texas has 2. NYC has 2. There’s nothing that says LA can’t.

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by Kev H on Nov 4, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Florida has two.

See above.

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by Just Dave on Nov 4, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rather 3 but I made the same argument in reverse, kinda....

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by Just Dave on Nov 4, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are enough teams in California already

Now we are talking about the smog filled hell hole getting another one?

They already have the Lakers and USC, lets leave it at that. And if they are going to move any team, move the Chargers since they are having problems selling out their games in San Diego, maybe they might sell out a game in LA…

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by JoeCB1991 on Nov 4, 2010 11:15 PM CDT reply actions  

A bad move

Fans in LA only want to embrace ‘successful’ teams.

And it is a disgraceful travesty if historic teams are moved.

I suspect that a cheaper outcome might be a ‘massive remodelling’ of the Metrodome whilst the Vikings play in a slightly expanded TCF for a couple of years.

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by Black-sheep on Nov 5, 2010 4:28 AM CDT reply actions  

the bottom line is

It is ridiculous the second biggest city in our country doesn’t have a team of the biggest sport in our country. Where are you getting the Lions talk though? It’s never been mentioned…ever I don’t think. The Jags are the most likely to move.

by jimribs on Nov 5, 2010 7:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes, it is ridiculous that LA does not have a team

but suggesting that one of the NFC North teams is is even goofier.

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by lookingdeadred on Nov 5, 2010 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

From their fanbase

An article here.

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by Kev H on Nov 5, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shutdown Corner?

Really? LMAO!

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by JazzyBBP on Nov 6, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Vikings stay

but their ownership dangles the thought of them leaving over Minnesota’s collective heads til they get their new stadium.

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 5, 2010 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Just to pose the question...

Which teams in the NFL currently have the most blackout dates? Which teams are particularly unhappy with their situation and want a change? Here’s the list I’m thinking of…

1. Jags. Their fan base sucks, if it even exists. Small market team that simply can’t catch a break, even with one of the most talented players in the NFL right now.

2. Rams. I seriously doubt it’ll happen. But ownership is going to change sooner rather than later. Keep this team on the back-burner.

3. Bucs. I seriously know nothing about this team other than they hate playing in cold weather. But they’ve done nothing since the super bowl run a few years ago. Not sure how good the fan base down there is either.

4. Queen. Explained in the article.

5. Hello Kittens. Explained in the article, but I don’t see them going anywhere.

6. Bungles. Again, I know nothing about this franchise. But if any franchise needs a change, it’s this one.

As far as cities that would welcome a new team, I’ve got a few thoughts on that as well…

1. Los Angeles. The second or third largest media market in the US only has 4 professional teams (Chi has 5, NY has no fewer than 8 including the Nets), and none in the NFL. This is an area ripe for expansion.

2. Vegas. Zero professional sports teams here. Not sure how you’d sell it, though…

3. San Antonio. Pre-built stadium, and Texas clearly can handle several (dozen) professional or semi-professional football teams. If there’s a state that’s more rabid about football than Texas, I don’t know what it is.

4. Milwaukee. Yes, I know this is a long shot, being so close to the Chicago market. But they’ve only got 2 professional franchises in the Bucks and Brewers, and it’d be fun to have a “no travel” North division, where home and away games for virtually all teams is drivable distance.

5. Salt Lake City. Utah’s basically got nothing (along with most of the Mountain West), and the Jazz have the most rabid NBA fanbase I’ve ever seen. It’d also be fun to have a nice Mile High Rivalry series with the Broncos. This would be a fantastic destination for the Jags, an AFC team, requiring a near-complete re-alignment of the AFC.

6. Chicago area. 62,000 seats once a week is not enough for this city. What would happen if a team built an 85,000+ seat stadium and tried to compete with the Bears? I think the city could put over 100,000 butts into seats for an NFL game, if not more. I’m just not sure if the city would support a second team around here. They’d have to be an AFC team, for sure.

Am I missing any teams that could potentially move or any cities that would welcome an additional NFL franchise?

by Doshi on Nov 5, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Milwaukee used to share the Pack with Greenbay.

So I’m not sure that’s feasible.

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by Just Dave on Nov 5, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

relocation

I don’t think the Vikings move either, too much history & rivalry there. If anybody relocates, it’d probably be Jacksonville.

by walterfan34 on Nov 6, 2010 1:44 PM CDT reply actions  

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