It's not enough for the Bears to win
So many Bears fans were up in arms, just begging, pleading, for the Bears to run the ball more. The Bears ran the ball more against the Bills, but the win wasn't impressive enough for some of you. The run/pass ratio was better, and yet talk radio, internet chatter, the talk around the water cooler, is mostly negative. The Bears offense did enough to win, their special teams chipped in, and the defense made plays when they had to. But it's still not good enough for some of you.
Now before you get your underpants in a bunch, I'm saying some of you, not all, and honestly it's not that bad around Windy City Gridiron, as we have a more intelligent readership. Our meathead quota is at a minimum. But some of you need to really think about what kind of team you want to cheer for. Some of you expect greatness in all facets of the team, and when you're griping and complaining about something that has run its course you move on to the next issue.
For example, the run/pass ratio that was such a big deal a couple weeks ago was addressed by Mike Martz by calling about as many runs as passes, so now the lack of a true #1 WR has reared it's ugly head again. Jay Cutler does a solid job in managing the game, and I actually heard someone say he didn't make enough big plays.
The media may be more a culprit in fanning the negative flames than anybody. The wind sock reporting is done more to get a reaction than to do any actual reporting. Some columnists I take with a grain of salt and simply read for a chuckle. And some of the radio guys are just trying to drum up good conversation, but with the way some of them flip flop on topics it just makes for bad radio.
Even if the Bears run off a string of W's, these same people will find an issue with something. But if they get tripped up and lose some games in the coming weeks, those same people will break their arm patting themselves on the back for being so right.
I know this team has warts. The secondary has some issues, the offensive line is far from gelling, and the offense hasn't shown much consistency, but it is what it is. This is a team that has to overcome some personnel deficiencies caused by Jerry Angelo, but the hope is some of the younger players can step up their game. Can they? For Angelo's sake they better.
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Good writeup
We get so focused on our team, that I believe we think good teams consistently just walk through games. For the most part, most games are tough in the NFL.
Even if the Bears run off a string of W’s, these same people will find an issue with something. But if they get tripped up and lose some games in the coming weeks those same people will break their arm patting themselves on the back for being so right.
That’s Terry Boers in a nutshell.
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[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Nov 9, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Amen to the 'preview' button
It has filtered out many of my typos and saved me much embarrassment.
And, those who whine about not having an ‘edit’ button should really learn to use it.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
Use the preview button
That way you can do the trial and error method.
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keep on plugging away at the blockquote
and you’ll get it eventually…
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 9, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
So Happy Together.....
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Actually...
it’s kinda cool lookin!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
Some of it's meatheadism
Some of it’s valid concerns taken to the ionosphere at Warp Factor 6.
Speaking as a Lions fan, the defense you guys have is good. Cutler can be a good QB, but it’s going to take him a year or more to finally get Martz’s system – it took Kitna about a year himself. (I make the assumption the OL doesn’t finally just kill him themselves.)
The WR corps is solid if unspectacular, and will have the same problems as Cutler will have. Fix the OL and then determine if you have a problem with the run game or the QB.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Nov 9, 2010 11:11 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
good to get some perspective from a fan of another team
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 9, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
Well, I watch from here in Winnebago County
So I generally have a good feel for what’s going on with you guys. I’m still unhappy about the week 1 thing, but you guys have generally won the games you were supposed to win going into the season. The thing that must get people fired up is that they’re not playing like 1985 and blowing out teams by three scores.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Nov 9, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
Off topic but...
How is the fan base reacting to another Stafford injury? Does it feel like it’s a matter of rushing him back too soon, or is there a chance that shoulder will just be injury prone?
Stafford is good when he plays, and he’s got guts. The injury roulette reminds me a bit of Jim McMahon though…
Half think he's made of glass
Half think he came back too quick. We could see he was having trouble in the Jets game as it went on. I personally think he’ll be fine if he has the Bradford surgery and a few months to fully recover.
Now, McMahon? I love Jimmy Mac. We should remember that he never started a full season anywhere, before or after Charles Martin tried to use the ground to remove his arm.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Nov 9, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
You're on the money with that.
The thing that must get people fired up is that they’re not playing like 1985 and blowing out teams by three scores.
So many of our fans spend their time pining for days of yore. Everything that happens with this team gets compared to 85. Guess what? Of course they’re not going to live up to those standards, because no other team in the Super Bowl era has ever lived up to those standards (piss off, Miami).
It’s like driving a Bugatti, and then spending the rest of your life bitching that your Lambo isn’t fast enough. Of course, this team is more along the lines of a Camaro with a really expensive system and rims (Jay and Julius). I just wish the front bumper wouldn’t fall to the ground everytime someone bumps it.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
But,
Cutler can be a good QB, but it’s going to take him a year or more to finally get Martz’s system
for that to do him any good, Martz (along with Lovie and the rest of his staff, have to last at least that long.
Who knows?
If he gets it later than sooner, maybe Martz ends up replacing Smith?
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
A win is a win no matter how it comes.
Do not get me wrong; I would love for the bears to come out and beat everyone like the 85 Bears did, but I know those days are over for now. Truly, I think that Angelo should be fired along with the DB and the WR coach. Angelo has put us at a disadvantage with all of the miserable drafts since he has been here. I say we hire a Bill Parcels type and let him build us a good team from the draft.
I hope you get a new coach
You could give lovie the 85 bears and he’d go 10-6 and lose in the 2nd round of the playoffs and everyone would be soft as hell on that roster.
by lopey986 on Nov 9, 2010 11:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I was happy to see us run the ball more.
Not as pretty and dominating against a winless team as you’d like, but all in all, the Bears won the game. We’re 5-3. I’ll take it.
Honestly, there are some ppl who are only concerned with perfection.
Sorry to say, there’s only been one perfect team in NFL history. And we (collective, including media junk) would’ve complained mightily about that team these days. They played just well enough to win their games, and nothing more.
What grates me is when I see something obvious, something that’s been pointed out not just for the last game, but for multiple seasons, and nothing is done to fix it. Like the offensive line. Like the secondary. Or when something is done to fix it, they then scuttle that fix by doing something else stupid. Like the defensive line. Like the wide receivers. Like the running backs. About the only positions that this team has constantly managed to stock and train correctly are on special teams and the Linebackers.
Now, that’s better than a host of other teams out there that can’t even stock and train a single position correctly. But it’s still far below teams like Indy, New England, New Orleans, etc. who seem to constantly be able to fill out their rosters with productive, if unknown, players on both sides of the ball and somehow manage to WIN football games with their players playing above their perceived talent levels. When was the last time you looked at a Chicago Bears football team and said, “Yep, our stars are playing well, and our duds are playing above their levels”. Even in the Super Bowl year, I couldn’t really say that, since Rex Grossman was the biggest schizoid I’ve ever seen in my entire life. The defense, though, played out of its freaking skull for two years at virtually all positions, with virtually nothing to show for it.
Is it too much to ask for solid, if unspectacular, production from all of our position groups at the same time? I’m not looking for a ProBowler at every position. But if we can recruit a couple of lifers at each position or general area, while filling out our lineup with overachievers, I think this team would be significantly better than it is currently.
I think there is an element to this subject that you're not addressing.
Everything you said, in my opinion, is accurate except you need to consider the track record of this team over the last 2 decades. I think the reason that most of us who criticize them even after a win is that we’re tired of the “positive spin” that Lovie and Jauron before him put on the situation when their result is missing the playoffs way more than they make it.
Speaking for myself, if I heard something from the coaches that acknowledge that there are issues or weaknesses, I might feel like they had a clue as to how to fix it. We just haven’t seen enough evidence of that over the last, almost 20 years. Taking the current regime, we were one of the younger teams in the league when we went to the Super Bowl but haven’t even made the playoffs ever since. We were one game away two years ago and JA made his famous proclamation that the QB is what does it for you. They go out and get Jay Cutler, don’t put the pieces around him (including a good coaching staff) and we actually go backwards the next year. We also signed “the best D-line coach” in the business and our sack total got worse. This year we sign the biggest free agent out there in Peppers, who has played great, but the rest of the D-line hasn’t really distinguished themselves (Izzy is starting to come around but nothing spectacular). We also sign a RB who isn’t a whole lot different from the one we already have and then hardly use him. We start out with a tight win over the doormat of our division, then play a decent game against the Cowboys and Packers but then lose 3 of the next 4 and don’t really look good in any of those games.
No one really expects perfection and the rest of the “good” teams in the league have warts as well but our history shows that our management and coaches don’t really know how to overcome those warts in the long run. They have set the expectations for us fans, not the other way around. I think what you’re reading as negativity, is just us fans who have been slapped in the face too many times by the ineptitude of the organization, waiting for another smack because history tells us it is coming.
by BearFan611 on Nov 9, 2010 11:52 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
The last 20 years have been played in the shadow of the 85 team
Nothing will ever live up to that…. But I do get your point. New leadership would be nice to have in Chicago.
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 9, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
True, it has, but that's only part of the problem...
Think of the eras of Wanny, Jauron, and Lovie, by anyone’s standards the Bears have been bad – mediocre most of that time. When you think about the fact that we are a charter franchise and operate in the largest single team market in the NFL that is inexcusable.
Look at a team like the Steelers, they have the occasional down year but for the most part they are always considered a good team. Same with the Colts, Patriots, Packers, and Ravens. The key is that those teams have good football people running them and aren’t afraid to make changes when things start to trend in the wrong direction. We don’t do that.
by BearFan611 on Nov 9, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Leadership in Chicago would be nice.
The most glaring mistakes made with this team are not so much the players themselves, its the lack of follow through.
Example: We get a guy who is a good, possibly great QB in Cutler, then proceed to surround him with a picket fence OL. Like buying a new Ferrari and putting in 85 Octane from the no name station down the street, because it’s convenient.
We bring in Coaches that are supposed to be difference makers and give them one legged half crippled player to “coach up”.
Players are going to make mistakes. No player is perfect certainly. But the Coaches and management are supposed to be “professionals” who can evaluate, train and lead the players. That is glaringly absent – leadership.
Angelo reminds me of the Colonel who send his troops blindly into battle without regard to how many may get killed – half equipped, half-ass trained and battle weary from the ass kicking they took the battle before.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 9, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
I agree BearFan611
because the whole point of playing a season every year is to shoot for a Super Bowl victory right? So, when we see other teams address their needs and are consistently playoff caliber teams, it gets frustrating to watch our coaches and managers not address certain areas of the team. I don’t usually complain about a win because it’s a win (besides the stupid plays to lose the Redskins game) but, I see why people bring up the negative stuff with this team—we haven’t fixed the problems that we have seen for the past few years, especially the O-line. We bring up these negative aspects of our team because we all know if they are NOT fixed, we won’t be making the playoffs and these early season wins won’t mean much.
by Stellarpete22 on Nov 9, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
lack of a plan
The problem is there has been a lack of a plan.
Now Angelo is partially to blame with some poor drafts, like in 2009 when having traded for Cutler, he didn’t take Beatty or Vollmer in Round 2. But then everyone thought Chris Williams was the left tackle of the future. And the management have been hamstrung by the end of the CBA which meant free agent pickings were fairly thin on the ground, and we’d hardly got any draft picks anyway to trade for players having already given a number away.
However a half decent GM could easily solve a lot of these problems with a decent draft and off-season.
R1. get one of Sherrod, Barksdale or Chicago boy Anthony Castonzo and nail down the LT spot
R2. draft Mikel Leshoure – we can trade Taylor who has an attractive contract for help elsewhere and a 230lbs RB should given the opposition plenty to think about.
R3. A WR and another target for Cutler like DJK from Iowa
R4. An interior lineman like Clint Boling
R5. Some LB depth like Martez Wilson
R6. a sleeper DB like Korey Lindsey of Southern Illinois.
There are some attractive FA possibilities like Barry Cofield, Richard Marshall and Tom Zbikowski who can add to the roster, and all of whom are still young.
Rome wasn’t built in a day, but with a decent subsequent draft in 2012, adding maybe a DE, a CB and a couple more OL, we’ve got a sustainable roster with talent across the board.
"I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals."
Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
Black-sheep....
I like were your head is with your draft except for RD 2. I think a DT in the second would be a better pick. I like Taylor and we already have a big RB in Unga.
DT in round 2 ftw..
Need to find the replacement for Tommie Harris so we can dump his failed arse. Peppers is eating up 2 linemen at a crack and Mr. No Sack still can’t even get pressure on opposing QBs.
Free Agency
I’d look at Barry Cofield in free agency to add to the DT rotation.
For me Taylor and Forte are too similiar whilst Unga is being thought of a FB. Leshoure adds a different type of RB to the mix. In his last two games his performance has been great bordering on the ridiculous.
"I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals."
Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
by Black-sheep on Nov 10, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
when the holes are this obvious
And plentiful the criticism will change. Personally I’ve seen enough .500ish bears teams, which is exactly what this team looks like to me. They beat a team they should beat, on the road. They lost two “eh” teams in a row at home. Hard to get excited.
by mike b on Nov 9, 2010 11:59 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Pretty much nailed it
I’m still pulling for improvement though.
Cutler hasn’t quite wrapped his head around this offense, nor the receivers… But once they do, I like their chances to be very good or maybe even great.
I love my Bears...
…but I kinda hate my Bears fans. Not all of ‘em, of course, but I haven’t lived in Chicago in a few years, but I tend to have an easy time finding Bears fans in Texas or England or wherever it is I am during the season to watch the games with. And man, I really would rather watch with fans of another team sometimes. Lots of griping, lots of expectations that we’re going to get clobbered, lots of insistence that everything we did right was luck and/or a mistake that the other team made. Last season I watched from Chicago was the ‘06 Super Bowl run, and I remember after we opened 8-0, someone in the Tribune’s little Red Eye freesheet talking about how we were the worst team ever and would end the season 8-8. Meanwhile, Vikings fans can start 2-5 and they’re all talking like they’re the Iraqi propaganda minister at the start of the war, insisting that the victors are impaling themselves on their own weapons and they’ll win the division anyway…
Just weird, really, that Chicago’s got such negative fans. The media’s definitely a part of it — I live in Texas now, and the Cowboys press isn’t quick to insist that their team is pathetic (even, hey, when they really, really are) — and I wonder if another part of it isn’t the 100+ year legacy of the Cubs not winning.
I really can't explain it
but, you are right about the Bears fans that I know being pretty negative. I’ll admit, last year I was pretty negative about our team because we didn’t have much of an offense with Ron Turner calling predictable plays. The Bears only had to beat the Texans in the very last game of the season and would have made the playoffs even with an “OK” team. This year I’ve calmed down and am trying to enjoy the games a lot more although some people I watch the games with complain about a certain bad play for about 5 minutes. Weird as it is—if we lost the Detroit game in week 1 and lost to the Bills, I would definitely be negative right now being 3-5 with nice wins over supposed tough teams. haha
by Stellarpete22 on Nov 9, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
what is there to be positive about?
not above .500 since the 06 superbowl? no championships in 25 years? the lovie smith bears routinely do not step up, example the 2 games before sunday. if people want to pretend the bears will be that cinderalla team, fine. but the trend says no, and many of us don’t feel like ignoring it.
Negativity or passion?
I think as Bears fans sometimes we love our team a little too much and set a pretty high standard. Instead of being satisfied with a win we want to dominate. And as you stated, this applies to a few Bears fans. I just think maybe we’re too passionate and less logical and reasonable. We cheer with out hearts, not our heads.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
I can usually tell the passionate from the pessimistic
But I do agree most of us cheer with our hearts
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 9, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
I think for me, it's just frustration.
I can plainly see, as so many of us here can, that improvements are possible but they seem to overlook them.
Captain Obvious was released in week one.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 9, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
was he a d-lineman?
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 9, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
Pretty Sure he was a 3rd round Linebacker.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 9, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
I tend to think that
you can’t love your team too much.
That’s what being a real fan is all about!
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
The Bears Need To Start Dominating Their Opponents
So far most of our wins have been flukes, we got lucky here and there and the stats keep saying we’re just not dominating unlike other NFL teams. Plus our O-line is horrible and that means even bad teams can make it a close game.
I would say this is why most of us aren’t happy, we’re playing just enough to win and that won’t be enough to get to the playoffs or the SB.
I agree with this for the most part.
I’d like one dominating game just so I have confidence that they can do it.
Hell, I want a close game in which the entire team plays well for the entirety. But right now there’s a lot of inconsistency (by coaching and players).
I’d take a win over a loss any day. I don’t think it would have been better if we’d lost this weekend. I just am tired of winning games because the other team makes a couple too many mistakes.
A win is a win . If ya win ....
….. by 50 it still only counts as one win . I was fine with the way we won the game . Jay managed the game well , made only on mistake that really didn’t cost us and overall played well . Martz ran the ball , be it not that effectively but still enough to keep the D honest & look at that Jay got to stand up for the majority of the game . All it takes is the threat of running and thats what we showed is that we would run the ball . Also look at what the Bills did aginest supposed better competition …… put 30+ up on the Ravens & took KC to overtime . What did we do ? We held them in check for a good part of the game and did what good teams do ……. found a way to win .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Nov 9, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
one thing I love about the bears..
.. is that this team plays a lot better when they are the underdogs… More they are scrutinized, more they put they hearts on the play, so, if the Bears Fans are somewhat negative, this can be a good thing to our Bears!
by Claudio Oliveira on Nov 9, 2010 1:12 PM CST reply actions
Not hate, but I'll admit to a sense of foreboding...
By now, I was hoping to see a Mike Martz offense with a Jay Cutler era in full swing. I haven’t give up on the team, but the lack of development on the O line – the lack of a game where they put everything together, is disheartening. Am I going to watch a 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 team not make the playoffs and feel complaclently like.. “it is what it is”. In some ways, ire is hope in disguise, while telling people not to get angry about a bad product is telling them not to hope for, or expect,, much better. If I were I coach, I’d much rather have a bunch of players that were pissed off at their performance than a bunch of players that were complacently saying “take it easy on is..we’re not doing too bad.”
Pump the Brakes There Lester...
Those who criticize the Bears are not unintelligent meatheads? Interesting. Let me be a meathead for a second.
The reason people find negative things to say about this team is because these negative things exist, and have existed for the past several years.
Seriously, have you been watching the past couple seasons? You really don’t think there’s anything fundamentally wrong with this team?
It starts at the top. The reason people harp on it, even after a tremendous win against the 0-8 Bills, is because they haven’t changed.
And if you don’t think we’ve been getting lucky this season, you’re not paying attention.
Sorry to be a negative nancy today.
never said those that criticize are unintelligent meatheads,
because I’ve done my fair share of criticizing too… What gets me is some of the same people that complained they want balance for the sake of balance now complain because the run game couldn’t average 3 yards per carry. Some of the same critics that said you have to keep pounding away with the run and eventually a big gainer will happen, complained about the run game vs. the Bills because a big gain never happened.
It’s funny how teams that have losing records complain about bad luck and teams that win are fortunate with good luck. But the Bears have some good luck shine on them and some people still complain about that.
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 9, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
my fault
I think I misunderstood you. I’m obviously frustrated with this team. I don’t really care about balance either… 2005 was great in my opinion. So was 06.
05 was full of lucky breaks!
that was a fun season
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 9, 2010 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
oh man
but that defense was silly good! silly good!
2005 d > 2006 d
peole are complaing about execution
fundamentally. you have to attempt to do something to show if you can actually do it or not. now that they are doing it and suck, that’s the complaint. i don’t see how wantting to run and the ball and actually be able to execute it is out of line. its the core of the game.
its not like the increased run plays are coming at the expense of all these dynamic pass plays that have been getting completed all year anyway.
Wouldn't it be funny
if all of the things we’ve blogged about this season become irrelevant with a Super Bowl victory? In this years league, anything can happen.
Drankin dat Kool Aid Much?
LOL
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 9, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
I prefer the " Purple Drank " like JaMarcus .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Nov 9, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
I despise purple drank, that's what those damn Vikings drink.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Nov 9, 2010 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I disagree with your premise
I think fans have a right to want the team to win decisively — playing well on both sides of the ball — 3 or 4 times a year. At least if you want to talk seriously about the Bears being a playoff team.
I am happy when the Bears win ugly games against mediocre teams, but seriously when was the last time that the Bears dominated and won a game against a better-than .500 team? That’s what playoff teams are able to do, and not once every 3 years. Until the Bears put that type of effort together, there’s going to be a degree of justified negativity.
by Shuffle85 on Nov 9, 2010 1:54 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
You are right
I want my favorite team to win big every week. I want the offense to put up 30 points per game and the D to shut out the opposition. But I know that isn’t gonna happen.
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 9, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
No better than anyone else.....
Look at the league this year! I am happy to be a Bears fan right now! We do have our offensive line woes, but we are 5-3. We dont always look like the best team in the NFL, but did we the year we went to the Superbowl? Nope! Bear Down!!
maybe not ALWAYS
We dont always look like the best team in the NFL, but did we the year we went to the Superbowl? Nope!
but they sure did a lot of the time. this team hasn’t looked that way once.
by mike b on Nov 9, 2010 4:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Those first 6 games were MAGICAL.
Same with the Arizona game. At least, the second half…
We have a responsibility to be critical of this team
And we have a right to set high standards. Because we pay the McCaskey’s salaries. Not the players, not Roger Goodel, and not even the advertisers.
This franchise is currently one of the biggest under-achievers in all of sports, which is ridiculous. This team should be one of the most successful in sports. The Bears own the second-largest market in the NFL. And (unlike the Jets/Giants) they have it all to themselves.
The reason the franchise is underachieving is because the McCaskeys are essentially lazy owners, who have very little interest in running an NFL football team, and are content to lay back and “cherry pick” the easy sales from die-hard, passionate fans (like us). I for one, am not going to lay down and be silent while the McCaskeys continue to sell this great city short and rob the fans of what they deserve – a consistent, quality product – every year.
by JimmyMack on Nov 9, 2010 5:26 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
The problem, as I see it, is that Lovie Smith doesn't seen to have a burning passion to win.
Fair or not, his placid demeanor, unwillingness to acknowledge his shortcomings in leadership and apparent willingness to accept mediocrity is maddening to the fans. Lovie is exactly like many of the players on the team, he got his big payday and has lost the hunger. Wade Phillips has paid the price for a very similar nature and I hope Lovie does too.
Wade Phillips was 1-7 where Lovie is 5-3
Wade’s player had stopped playing for him, where Lovie’s do play hard. A little more talent at WR and on the O-line and this team would be dominate.
As far as Lovie’s placid demeanor, He is an adult and conducts himself as a professional.
If you want an emotional know it all, hire a teenager!
by 62bearsthe best on Nov 9, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
I couldn't disagree with you more here
Lovie is smart and understand that his team has some issues. He’s not going to go up to the podium in front of the media and start calling out players, that’s how you lose your team (see Brad Childress). Instead he focus more on the positives instead of the negatives to instill confidence in his players, and that’s why his team always plays hard for him.
by Dominique Blanton on Nov 9, 2010 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
We want more FIRE!!!
I’m all for cerebral as a coaching characteristic. We all want the smartest guy in the room to be the Head Coach. Is Lovie the smartest guy in the locker room? I dunno.
Great leaders lead by example, they also surround themselves with staff that make make them better. I think our Mr. Smith may be deficient in those areas.
It would be nice if he also had a fiery personality too.
BTW, I love the “hire a teenager” analogy 62Bears.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 10, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
I'll take a win..
Yeah we have some issues, but I’m not complaining at the moment..my(and most peoples) favored target for criticism(the OL) didn’t look too terrible out there..and Cutler rolling out and running helped immensely. Need to get some rosin or glue on Olsen’s gloves however. lol
Isn't this a forum for expressing opinions ?
You’re upset because not everyone feels the same way as you ? Wow. Of course we find things to gripe about. Our O-line and receivers are sub-par. Our QB isn’t as advertised, or maybe he is exactly as advertised if you listen to what the Bronco fans said at the time. It’s not all doom and gloom on defense though:
- We are the best in the league at stopping opponents on 3rd down.
- We are the best in the league at stopping opponents score passing TDs.
- We’re 3rd best at reducing opponents rushing yardage.
To counter that, we’re 3rd worst in the league at allowing rushing TD’s. The massive investment in Peppers is not showing up in overall sack totals – and he only has two for the year himself. He’s also tied 317th in the league for overall tackles.
It’s never all bad or all good, but without an offense, we’ll only ever beat bad teams.
uh... no....
good try though… it’s the flip flopping knuckleheads that bitch about 1 thing, that 1 thing is addressed, then they find a new thing to bitch about. It’s the windsock media that just go negative no matter what, just to rile up the fan base.
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 11, 2010 8:39 AM CST up reply actions
Oh no you din't!
Potty mouth.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
oops...
I though if using the word as a verb it was ok…
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 11, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
It's ok, don't listen to Just Dave or is it Dave?
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Nov 12, 2010 7:41 AM CST up reply actions

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