Lovie Smith Approval Rating
We haven't run one of these for the Head Coach this season, but we've been reading the comments for a couple of years now. But, with the team currently 8-3, perhaps coach Smith will be seen through rosier-colored glasses than usual. We'll see. Vote now.
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Maybe a solid 5.
A head coach just has to show more fire than he does. The worst thing about the Bears the past couple of seasons has been the defense. Them being the beasts that they are is the reason Lovie is still here.
omg not more 'fire"
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 1, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
Let the man remain comatose dammit!! Don’t let all that perfectly good valium go to waste.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
I have no problem with a coach that can remain composed
Inside the locker room and on the practice field he shows more passion. As soon as someone can prove that “fire” equates to wins then I’d be all for it.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 1, 2010 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
As long as we keep winning
Lovie could stand on the sidelines in a tutu and do the funky chicken the entire game and I wouldn’t care.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Could he dress in that tutu like the San Diego chicken?
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
Agreed.
Preemptive contract extensions don’t make THAT much sense to me.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 1, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Lovie
The one thing that I really like about Lovie… THIS YEAR… is that he is holding players accountable. Remember when he seemingly gave the starting DE job to Mark Anderson, and just left him there even though the play didn’t warrant it? That seems like a distant memory now. It seems like he really is holding guys accountable and if you want to play you need to make a play. Right?
Also, when Martz was getting all pass happy and nearly got Cutler killed, it was Lovie who said they needed to start running the ball more (even though it might have taken two weeks) and lo and behold, we’re running the ball more.
And I like the half time adjustments we’re making. I don’t know how much of that is because of Lovie, but it is happening. If we were losing we’d kill him for it, so I say give credit where it’s due.
He still drives me nuts at times and he still struggles with clock management and when to challenge plays, and he looks totally aloof on the sidelines most of the time, but the Bears are 8-3 and he’s the coach, so I gotta give it to him.
All I know is, he seems to be coaching with a sense of urgency, and I like that. So I voted approve. On a scale of 1-10, I give him a 7.
I am with you on this one...
I still find it difficult to simply ignore the past 3 seasons because the Bears are winning this season. I wish it didn’t take the threat of being fired for him to start doing more than making excuses and deflections for his mistakes. He has a chance to atone for his numerous missteps over the past few seasons and for my team’s sake, I hope he’s turned a corner. For my part, I would still like to see another coach, but if he’s found a formula to be successful, than I’d be stunningly dense to say he isn’t earning his paycheck. I will not, as many recent bandwagon leaping specialists have, just ignore his failings because he’s winning now, but I am willing to believe he can become a better coach if he can learn from his mistakes.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
Past three seasons...
where the bears went:
7-9 in 2007
9-7 in 2008
and
7-9 in 2009
Unfortunately, I disagree with you analysis that ‘the threat of him being fired is why he’s doing better’. It really has nothing to do with that. Talent & Maturation, Better Playcalling and Coaching Moves (i.e. Rod Marinelli?) and being Injury Free (unlike 2009…)
If anything he’s been spectacularly average, and to the point, with the current personnel had, I wouldn’t believe that ANY coach would have been able to do a much better job than Smith has over the same time period.
Patience, my friend. Not every year can we have a team that reaches the playoffs. Over Smith’s tenure, the Bears are 60 and 47. Not that bad. And to be honest, he has a better W/L percentage than… DITKA. You can disagree with his coaching style, fine. But to say that he’s not consistently average, if not winning… is totally false.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 1, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
I can agree with some of what you've said...
but it’s hard to accept the defense dropping from 5th to 28th between 2006 and 2007 with no massive change in personnel and say that’s not on Lovie. It’s just as easy for me to say that the only reason the Bears won that many games is because of the personnel and not Lovie. I do take your point about it not being an utter failure as these teams were in the realm of possibly making the playoffs. However, to go from SB contender to not being .500 in one offseason, is, IMO, NOT success. Also, aren’t “better playcalling” and “coaching moves” kinda Lovie’s fault? But we can agree to disagree slightly on the characterizations of those seasons.
One thing I completely disagree on, is that I believe a team can have sustained success (Pats, Steelers, Colts, Ravens, Eagles) for more than one or 2 seasons; making the playoffs as a regular routine is not unprecedented. Especially in a large TV market with a great deal of fan support and team revenue, a winning combination can be maintained.
Again, I am not against Lovie having success as the HC of my beloved Bears, I’m just not willing to say that everything that glitters is gold either.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
Lets talk about 'which teams make the playoffs'.
Eagles: 3 times in the past 6 seasons. (probably 4)
Ravens: 3 times in the past 6 seasons. (probably 4)
Steelers: 3 times in the past 6 seasons. (probably 4)
Chargers: 4 times in the past 6 seasons. (probably 4)
Giants: 4 times in the past 6 seasons (who knows?)
Indy: 5 times in the past 6 seasons (see above)
Packers: 3 times in the past 6 seasons (maybe 4)
Seattle: 3 times in the past 6 years (WTF NFCW)
Bears: 2 times in the past 6 seasons. (probably 3)
The above are the only teams that have been to the playoffs (and probably) more in the past 6 years than the Bears. 8 teams. this would put the bears right out of the top quarter of teams in playoff appearances.
“However, to go from SB contender to not being .500 in one offseason, is, IMO, NOT success.”
No, it isn’t, but it doesn’t necessarily make you a bad or substandard coach either. i.e. Andy Reid followed up his SB loser year with a 6-10 year. Mike Holmgren? 3 successful playoff years, capped by a SB loss. 4-12 the next year.
Lovie Smith? Went 7-9. Not bad. Hell. Jim Caldwell’s team, the insurmountable Colts, lost the SB, and aren’t a lock to win the south, or even have a winning record for the rest of the year.
You’re also basing success off of one season, which in my mind, is bunk.
Better playcalling and coaching moves are, yes, Lovie’s fault. Finding a DC that worked with the defense was a process… We went through 2 since Rivera left (Babich and Smith)… I call that changes, the first two were wrong, yes, but, Lovie & Co. realized that things weren’t as good as they could be. and gasp changed it. Mixed things up on the defensive side of the ball to find a ‘winning combination’.
This is where I don’t get your ‘inflexibility’ argument that you’ve touted a few times, because, I see these changes that have been made since the SB season, and said, well. This makes sense, defensively there’s a bit of a retrograde from Rivera who is a fantastic playcaller and coordinator… to Babich, to Smith calling the plays (neither of which worked), to Marinelli who seems to be calling better than the either of them did. I don’t think Lovie would necessarily disagree with your point that some of the previous moves were mistakes as well. But, I don’t think you could say that other coaches wouldn’t make that mistake either.
Between 2006 and 2007? Really, the only things I can think of that changed were: Loss of Rivera, Both safeties. But, wait…
2007: Allowed 348 points (21.8/g), 16th.
What stats are you looking at to say the defense dropped from 5th to 28th?
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
Thanks for showing me the light...
I should be thankful the Bears missed the playoffs and had losing records for 2 of the past 3 seasons. Lovie didn’t fire Rivera or his safeties, he “lost” them like the airlines just “lose” luggage. The defense was bad, but not the worst, so that’s something. Sure he not only failed at choosing a DC, but actually failed at being DC himself. You are correct that having a losing record doesn’t necessarily make you a bad coach, but it sure doesn’t make you a good one either. Lovie’s "inflexibility can be summed up by the following phrase, “Rex is our quarterback.” This along with a wide variety of player and coaching failures have resulted in 3 consecutive seasons without a playoff appearance. It’s one thing to say a team had a down year, but 3 in a row is not success, it’s the opposite of success, some of us call that failure. The difference between your position and mine is that I am willing to allow him his due when he has success, but you are not willing to admit to any of his failures as simply being failures, there’s always some “reason” it was not really his fault. I’m not asking you to say he’s an abject failure, but you are asking me to believe he’s been a rousing success.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
I'm not trying to say he's been a rousing success.
But he has been very good.
What stats are you looking at to say the defense dropped from 5th to 28th?
“Rex is our quarterback” is a bit of a red herring, which, in my mind is irrelevant because, yes, it sounds stupid, but it’s a soundclip. What are you going to do in a situation like ‘rex is our quarterback’? Say, no, the guy sucks and throw him under the bus? What would that do to his respect in the locker room?
3 consecutive seasons without a playoff appearance. Big whoop. I know this is the league of ‘what have you done for me right now’… But that’s no excuse. Example: the year is 2000, pittsburgh steelers. Bill Cowher has been the coach for the past few years, and took over from Chuck Noll. Cowher’s team had 3 down seasons after posting a few good ones. Did that mean it was time for a coaching change? Or do you stick with a coach who you think has it.
This is the same problem I have with Carolina ‘eventually’ canning John Fox. John Fox is a GOOD coach.
I’m not trying to show you the light, I’m just trying to say your distaste may be more off than you think. I’m highlighting the positives to counteract your negatives, if you’d like me to point out all of Lovie’s faults, that’d help, but in this conversation isn’t necessarily relevant to what I believe your opinion to be.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
As far as the stats...
here’s the link.
In what universe does missing the playoffs for 3 consecutive seasons count as “very good”? You can make some arguments about mitigating circumstances and potential, but “very good” sounds a lot like “rousing success” to me. You can believe Lovie should have had more success, but the reality is he did not. No matter how you explain it, the Bears did not make the playoffs. I think that is a bad thing and you are trying to convince me otherwise. If a coach (say John Fox) cannot guide his team to winning seasons, how good can he be? Being a good coach has to have some bearing on the success of your team or there is not a reason to play the games. The NFL uses win-loss records to determine success and so do I. I see what Lovie has done for 3 years and I am unhappy with it. There is nothing obtuse or unrealistic about it.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
Absolutely Agreed
This team team has underachieved ever since going to the Super Bowl in 2006. What have we done since then? We’ve missed the playoffs for 3 straight years. That didn’t happen by accident.
The fact that we’re now 8-3 is outstanding, but let’s wait until Lovie finishes out his current contract before we start becoming his advocates.
I'm a little confused by two of your comments...
If anything he’s been spectacularly average
and then…
But he has been very good.
I tend to agree with LostinSTL on this, in that I’m not ready to forgive 3 years of underachieving just yet. People try to excuse him for the last 3 seasons for injuries, poor position coaches, and less than stellar personnel but every team in the NFL deals with injuries during a season, the coaches he had on his staff were his choices, and when he signed his new deal, part of the contract was more input into personnel (credit to T-Train in a post about a week ago for that information). You also have to remember that we also were only a game away from the playoffs 2 years ago and “the problem” was the QB. We brought in, what at that time, was the biggest FA signing in Bears history and his team went backwards.
His lack of developing players has been discussed here over and over again but it remains, in my opinion, his biggest shortcoming as a HC and that shouldn’t be discounted because we’ve won some games this year. Especially when you can make the argument that a big reason for the improved record is because of another huge FA signing in Peppers, again a player not developed by Smith.
Lastly, my biggest problem with most of the supporters of Lovie’s at this point is taking the attitude that average performance is acceptable and we should be happy with it because he’s done better than the really bad HC’s. I, for one, don’t want to continue with mediocrity and believe that we, as fans, should expect the best from this franchise. Whether we get it or not with another staff is another story, but Lovie’s record would indicate that “average” is all we’re going to get from him.
I approve of a winning coach.
If he F this up then I disapprove.
Somebody needs to teach him how to challenge though.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
I've said it several times
Lovie is probably no better or no worse than any other coach in the NFL. His players still play hard for him. For anyone to say that Fisher or Cowher would come in and automatically whip up a Super Bowl is somewhat naive.
Look how well
Fisher’s crew is doing lately. I don’t think he’d do any better here than Lovie ever would.
One year of success doesn't upend 3 years of abject, horrific failure.
What he’s earned right now is the right to play out his current contract. That is it.
Do it again next year, and then we’ll talk.
Angelo, however, must be shown the door. Sooner rather than later.
7-9, 9-7, 7-9 seasons
do suck, don’t know if I would put them in “horrific failure” category though.
9-7 sucks?
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 1, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
for that matter, a 7-9 injury plagued season is bad?
and necessary lovie’s fault for an offence that was inept as peter king?
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 1, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
no, not really
not making the playoffs did, I was merely stating their records the past three years as not god awful.
I know :D
i was saying the same thing above.
going 23-25 in down years is… pretty awesome.
if we went 14-34 over the same time period… THEN you’d have room to complain.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 1, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Being constantly told that we're SB contenders...
And then fail to make the postseason with our best players in their prime.
That’s failure.
Quit listening to them.
Believe nothing you hear, and 50% of what you see.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 1, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
But
82% of statistics are made up 63% of the time….
Sorry seeing that reminded me of that little saying…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
and 4 outta 3 people have troubles with fractions…
All women are beautiful when the lights are off!
by touchdown bears on Dec 1, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
4 out of 5 dentists recommend something...
was it Trident?
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 2, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Allie?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
I think Lovie is an ok coach
Its Angelo that NEEDS to go.
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
by T.Moore on Dec 1, 2010 12:07 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
what have you done for me lately...
…this is the reality of pro football. lovie is doing well so far so i approve of him.
it is on a game by game basis, clearly.
i do think his overall body of work is good, but his main problem is he does not communicate well with fans and media.
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott
Lovie's got his faults
like with challenges and clock management. But those are small parts about what makes a good coach. It’s been said that Lovie’s a better “game week coach” than a “game day coach,” meaning he’s better at preparing and motivating his players Monday thru Saturday, than deciding whether to go for it on fourth down or kick a FG.
Aside from a few personnel fails (Anderson, shuffling DMS and Izzy, etc.), he’s done fairly well with the talent he’s got. I don’t think there are many coaches that could do better. Plus, the players have his back and he has control of the locker room – you can’t understate the importance of team harmony.
All in all, I’d give Lovie a solid B. However, if we miss the playoffs this year, he should get the boot!
by NorthSideBearsFan on Dec 1, 2010 12:48 PM CST reply actions
If we go 10-6 and lose on a tiebreaker
and thus miss the playoffs, should he still go? I’ve wondered that myself and I can’t quite come up with the answer.
Regardless, he has a year left. With the threat of lockout, he’s not getting canned this season.
He doesn’t let the players whine to the press when we lose, either, or them have a go at the opposing QB during the victory formation kneel-downs. I lost a lot of all respect for Andy Reid on Sunday.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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I good with Lovie . On a scale of 1 - 10 I'd give him a solid 8 .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
Lovie is a good coach
We could do a lot worse, just look around the NFL.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
josh
mcdaniels ? …..Man their boards are a mess…..Makes for good drama though…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
Just note hope to god
that it NEVER gets that bad here…..I know at the offish Bears forums it was a train wreck towards the end of juarons reign….Then the whole coaching search with saban turning down the job and the dueling PC of russ grimm and Lovie Smith…..Was horrible there…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
The biggest short bus rider in the NFL.
I’m sorry, but you walk into a team and the first thing you do 5 months before your first season is to 86 the franchise pro bowl QB and franchise pro bowl WR ? That’s like walking into the Eighties Niners and going “Rice! Montana! Pack your gear, I’ll take it from here. Take care now”
They had Steve Young, but I get your point.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
Well, if the season goes bad from here
Chilly is available (EXTREME sarcasm)
by David in Maine on Dec 1, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
I'm afraid to vote
For now he’s got the team rolling, and moving in the right direction.
While his lifetime stats are actually pretty impressive compared to many of his contemporaries, he has not delivered what we all covet, another Championship.
Lovie is an above average coach. He has the guys playing well, for him. When he wins a Championship, or two then he could be considered legendary. Until then – eh.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Dec 1, 2010 1:58 PM CST reply actions
Up until last season
I did not understand the hate for Lovie and thought he did well….I didnt think he was Ditka or anything but before Lovie got here I had to deal with the constant state of horrible seasons under juaron and wanny…..Last season though I just could not take it with the blow out losses….. Combine that with Lovie letting rivera and DJohnson walk, the decisions he made (archleta over CHarris at that time, anderson over ABrown, bouncing DManning around like a pinata, “firing” the most assistant coaches in the NFL) was just to much for me personally and wanted him gone….
When they had that PC I thought Hmmm maybe they will change since they said it like 50 times (especially the D)…Then I thought nothing changed when they announced Marinilli as DC and when they hired martz as OC I thought nothing but doom and gloom…..For this season right now things are good…..I just hope they can continue….I can not bring myself to vote until it all plays out…..Right now though I give him a 8 out of 10…..Or a B+….
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
In my school
an 80% was a B-
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LOL dang it Kev
ok 8.7….That better……
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
lovie's approval
I think he’s done a good job to this point. I would not extend his contract yet….need to see more of the same in 11 first, but I like the moves he’s made and the direction the team is going in. I’ll admit I didn’t like a lot of moves made in 07-09, but he deserves credit for what’s happened this year.
Also:
If he deserves an extension, he shouldn’t make any more than he’s making now.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
Lovie needs solid assistants
He’s obviously doing much better with Marinelli than Babich, as he did with Rivera.
Martz is light-years better than Ron Turner, who couldn’t make ANY in-game adjustments.
And Dave Toub has always been spectacular.
I think the better organizations in the NFL tend to have better coordinators and assistants in the pipeline, which is why they win more often and have relatively stable turnover.
The question is how to best surround Lovie with that kind of talent. Maybe we need a better GM to force some of these hires – as we all remember (or should) that Mike Ditka and Buddy Ryan didn’t get along too well, but the result of their work together is still famous.
by Sweetness Lives On on Dec 1, 2010 2:36 PM CST reply actions
Oh, how the fallen have become mighty
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
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nice!
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 1, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
Lovie loves to be loved.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 2, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
The guy is 60-47 in the regular season. We have had 3 winning seasons under him and will be 4 if we win one more this year. We have won the division twice and almost won it two years ago but we lost the Minnesota game. Last year we were injured pretty badly. Plus we have had a Stupid Bowl appearance. I would say he has done alright as a HC but not what we want. It seems like everyone in Chicago wants an offensive minded coach. Plus its crazy what winning will do to your popularity.
by Jonathan Heun Jr on Dec 1, 2010 4:27 PM CST reply actions
While winning tastes good
Lovie is still not the man. 5th highest salary and you manage 7-9, 9-7, 7-9? Add in his stupidity in roster moves, increased responsibility in our draft failures and his huge contract, no Love for Lovie. Now if he wins us a Super Bowl this year, I might compromise and give him a flyer year to change my mind.
That said, I have 0 confidence in his ability to produce a SB win.
by TheMan1 on Dec 1, 2010 4:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You could've asked me this at any point and my answer would be the same:
I love Lovie! :]
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I have to say that he has changed my mind
Done well with some garbage from Angelo but he did give him peppers which has made a world of difference for the defense with urlacher being healthy. Shore up the Oline, need another safety and a corner and we are in pretty good shape.
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I voted disaprove...with a caveat
Lovie’s tenure reminds me of that of Dick Jauron. Everyone was calling for his head (rightfully so), but then in what was expected to be his last year the Bears won the division. I hope I am wrong and Lovie will continue to put out good, possibly great, teams in the future. I am pessimistic though, we need some new blood.
What has Lovie done in 7 years? Why give him more time?
One NFC championship. Check. Two Divisional crowns. Superbowl appearance in which he was out-coached. Peyton Manning sucked/choked in that game and it was there for the winning.
- He lost points with me from day one. He came into my Bears and what’s the first thing he says? “Our goal will be to beat Green Bay.” WTF? Hello? We haven’t won a Lombardi in 20 years, and you mean to say that’s not your prime directive? Your mission is to definitely win two divisional games a year ?! Low expectations. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.
- Lovie isn’t a smart guy. His mental brain freezes on challenges show that – thinking out problems in real-time. All he’s responsible for now is player selection and challenges. He’s poor at both. Failure to adapt in-game when he was DC again supports the low-wattage bulb theory.
- This year? Already single-handedly cost us the Redskins game. He was told by everyone around him to throw the flag. He chose not to. We lost the game because of that decision alone i.e. he makes bad decisions.
Didn’t reel in Martz soon enough. 4 to 1 pass ratios are insane. We could have beaten the Seahawks if he knew what the hell he was doing with the OL. He played musical chairs instead .. and CONTINUES to pick revolving doors Webb ! Asiata is a monster ! Lance Louis can block guys on the second level like a motherfinger! They’re animals, and we play Webb, old man Garza and back-job Williams? People might think our OL is improving, but it’s Cutler’s houdini-tricks that’s improving ….
I don’t like his stubborn qualities in relation to the roster. Angelo makes the roster, Lovie selects the starters. Kellen Davis is a good receiver and a good blocker. Manu gets the nod every week. Why? His salary. Dez Clarke would be more use to us than Manu. Is Devin Hester a better all-round receiver than 6’2 Shabba ? Not in this life. Lovie and Martz say “Shabba can’t the slot” – so … put him outside and keep Hester on returns and bring him in for four WR sets. It’s not rocket science. Izzy has been one of my favourite bears for years – why is he only breaking him out now, his careers nearly over! Hunter Hillenmeyer at MLB !! There was a young LB on the roster that made 18 tackles in ONE GAME! The roster selections over the years … well it would take years to back through all of that. Short cut. He’s not very smart and he’s stubborn.
Mike Ditka was not the greatest coach ever by any means. But he knew what a superbowl team looked like, he knew what the Bears should look like. And woe betide you messed up on the field, because he was in your grille as soon as you got back to the sideline making sure you knew you messed up and that it wouldn’t happen again. Accountability. Lovie finds people accountable now? Really? What about Manu? What about Webb? Insert any player that sucks, or messes up as a habit. Short and curlies, Ditka won a superbowl as a player and at least knew what quality looked like. He knew where the light switch was. Lovie is feeling in the dark for the same switch.
Lovie lost points with you, because he said wants to beat Green Bay?
Well Wally, the Packers record against us in the Brett Favre era was 20-4. I’d say something needed to change wouldn’t you? Btw, Lovie’s record against GB is 8-5
Oh, and Lovie’s overall NFC North record is 24-15.
Is Devin Hester a better all-round receiver than 6’2 Shabba ?
I’d say yes, better hands, better routes, and knows the offense.
Asiata is a monster? Maybe I missed something this pre-season
Do you really think Lovie decides which O-lineman to start? It’s probably more like he approves the starters that Martz & Tice recommend.There was a young LB on the roster that made 18 tackles in ONE GAME!
Did we really need him? There is more depth at LB than any other position on the roster. Oh, and we did get our starting safety out of the deal.
Lovie has had his shortcomings, sure. But I wouldn’t go the route you have in criticizing him.
Btw, I voted approve. Definitely wouldn’t give him an extension until the season is done.
Not if you actually apply your brain for a second and consider the possibility – nay, probability – that the poll question is somewhat ambiguous and could be taken as meaning long- and/or short-term approval. That’s why I held off voting.
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by touchdown bears on Dec 2, 2010 8:47 AM CST up reply actions
Good point. I’m not used to them!
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Obviously the 8-3 is a good thing
and whats not to like about that, still a chance they could win maybe 2 of the last 5, not win the division and not make the playoffs again for the 4th straight!! Distinct possibility if they dont win the division…lots of wild card scenarios and lots of them dont favor the Bears sadly. I really havent seen any brilliant, really good or even all that good coaching out’a Smith imo, defense is basically carrying the load with Urlacher healthy and the LB crew playing well, Peppers certainly was needed and I like his season thus far and ol’ Smitty handed that side off if I remember. If he truely got mad Mikes attention, we’ll see, and if so…cheers Smitty.. The consistent playoffs should be a must,not just every 3-4 years, too big of a team, market and organization if it were being properly run and once again, in my opinion it hasnt been with the likes of Phillips, Angelo and Smitty. If the roll continues I can also agree to let the man finish out his contract with no expectations of re-upping him beyond that. Hows that saying go?….“Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn once in awhile”…
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