Chicago Bears Fall Victim to Chicago Bears Weather
Yesterday's game wasn't pretty. That is to say, not from the perspective of the Chicago Bears.
Having been thoroughly dominated in all aspects of football by the New England Patriots on Sunday, many fans and analysts are turning towards the idea that the Bears are "frauds" or "pretenders." Surely, after such a complete tail-whipping by a Patriots team that has won a startling 75% of it's regular season games over the last decade, there's no way that this team should have a winning record. They especially shouldn't be leading their division, and within a weekend's grasp of clinching the division, right?
While that's all debatable, and will be covered ad nauseum over the next few weeks, there is something that was definitely proven over the weekend. Chicago Bear Weather is officially extinct.
You may recall back in June that we discussed this very topic here at Windy City Gridiron. As we mentioned then, this team is simply not built to have an advantage in conditions like the ones at Soldier Field yesterday. The concept of Bear Weather came into play strongly this past week, as weather forecasts led to the good old adage, "Oh, it's going to be perfect Bear Weather."
It was indeed, perfect Bear Weather. It was so perfect that it nullified a lot of the Bears abilities. From receivers who couldn't hold onto the ball, to defensive players who seemed to be a consistent half-second behind where they needed to be, the Bears indeed were exposed. The conditions, coupled with an absolutely dynamite attack by the New England Patriots, were enough to nullify the thing that is most advantageous to the Bears: speed.
It's best summed up, I think, by this quote from Moon Mullin's article posted today at csnchicago.com:
The silly notion of "Bear weather" can hopefully be forever banished from anything. Given the numbers of players from Florida, Texas, Alabama, California, New Mexico, Arizona and any number of warm places (including a coach from Texas), my sense of true "Bear weather" was always 95 degrees-95 humidity anyway. Frankly, training camp was more Bear weather than anything on the lakefront in December or January.
"Bear weather" for most fans traces to Wilbur Marshall (a Floridian) picking up a Rams fumble in the swirling snow in an NFC Championship game and gliding down the field for a touchdown. If you’re as far superior to others as that team was, and the Patriots currently are, any weather is your weather.
And that's the crux of it. For a team of this constitution, the weather isn't going to make a difference. Most times, the better team is going to win, and that's exactly what happened on Sunday afternoon. Should these teams be fortunate enough to meet again in the Super Bowl, the Patriots will likely still be the better-assembled, better-coached team. There's a lot of time until then, so the Bears need to get back to executing the level of play they've executed in 9 of their 13 games so far, and they'll be fine.
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No, it's not dead.
It depends on the team and the players.
Give me the Saints in Bears weather. Give me the Vikings and Brett Favre (the old man edition) in Bears weather. Give me Mike Vick in Bears weather.
The New England Patriots? Notsomuch.
by Skags on Dec 13, 2010 11:20 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
It's Patriots weather
It’s Tom Brady weather… anyone remember the route they unleashed in the snow last year vs the Titans?
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Was it a deep post?
Or a crossing route? Perhaps it was that tight end curl at the goalline that they scored with yesterday.
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That TE stick route is good on the good goal line
The TE essentially runs right over the goal line then turns and posts up the defender basketball style… I just learned about that route this season, my offensive coordinator has that in his bag of tricks
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 13, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
Urlacher looked less than pleased to be blocked out like that.
Did he make too much contact before the pass, i dunno. Harris get’s the pic previously it doesn’t matter. You have to make the plays when they are there.
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by Ditkavsworld on Dec 13, 2010 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
I thought Gronkowski
bodied Urlacher too much when seeing it live… but it’s a judgment call
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 13, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
If Olsen (and that's a big if cause he's soft) did that to a backer
I’d be all for it. It was a physical play and a good move, totally a judgement call that could go either way.
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by Ditkavsworld on Dec 14, 2010 6:29 AM CST up reply actions
And the 47-7 demolishment of the Cardinals the year before that
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
by GriggsBriggs on Dec 13, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
This is my belief as well
It didn’t seem like they were bothered by the weather, but it was more mental breakdowns in their gameplan. Ex- Branch at the end of the first half, Welker having gobs of room to run in the slot, BJGE having room to get downfield and to the second level of defenders.
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I don't think it's dead
For example if we played the Cowboys yesterday I think we would have had a slight advantage. Yesterday that was just two cold weather teams in the snow. Their was no advantage for either team.
I have stated this in a few posts, but I think it bears repeating...
(no pun intended). What genius doesn’t build his team’s strength around the home field? If you play half of your games on one field, shouldn’t you build a team that is suited to playing on that field? I understand Lovie has his dream of fast small defenders to run the Tampa2, but don’t JA and Lovie share in the stupidity here?
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
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by LostInSTL on Dec 13, 2010 11:23 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I kind of agree
but your logic would also maintain that every team in the nfl isn’t built for speed. What team honestly would go, “ya know we might play in snow or on a bad field, so let’s make our roster slow”? Every team in the NFL is built for speed, I can’t think of one team that is specifically built for a bad turf or for snow.
My point is more about...
the fact that teams like MN play most (at least 8) of their games every season on a faster surface (the Metrodome), so speed is to their advantage in 8 (at a bare minimum) games. The Bears play 8 (9 if you count Lambeau) games every season on “slow” surfaces that work against the speed they have. Add to that the likelyhood of at least one or two late season games (possibly playoffs) in winter conditions outside where it is known to snow from time to time. This too works against the speed advantage as evidenced by yesterday’s game.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
is your point they need a new surface?
because building a slow team doesn’t makes sense no matter where you play. I would agree completely they need a new surface, but the “building of the team” has little to do with that point.
That is one scenario...
that could work. And for the record, I am not advocating getting slower players, just placing less of a premium on speed as opposed to other football skills like catching, tackling, or blocking, etc. Especially when your field works against it. My point is not about how they move forward as much as to point out the mistakes that have been made in building the team for speed on a surface that they cannot use speed to their advantage; the field makes them slower players. Thus, your suggestion is the most plausible remedy, but barring a field change, perhaps having speedy undersized linemen who cannot block/tackle well isn’t so useful.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
perhaps having speedy undersized linemen who cannot block/tackle well isn’t so useful
This just makes me want to punch a baby Jerry.
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Well, not 8 games...
…If their roof collapses.
You mean the METRODOOM!!!!!!!!....

I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
Speed is similar across the league
The only difference are the undersized defensive linemen they use, and even now it’s a bit of a stretch considering Pepp is close to 300lbs.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
yesterday's game was identical to the 89 championship
a fast pass offense coming into chicago an whipping us on what was supposed to be a home field atavantage, Bear weather didn’t die yesterday, it died in 89.
by jimribs on Dec 13, 2010 11:24 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
along with getting off the bus running
Superman wears an Urlacher Jersey under his costume
by BearNecessities on Dec 13, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
a thousand ties rec'd
bears weather has not existed for years.
this year? it's dead.
same with next year too…
but, it never dies. the spirit lives on.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
It's dead
Sure, Vick may not like playing in the cold, but didn’t LeSean McCoy play at Pitt? Point is – as Moon’s article hinted – players come from all sorts of weather backgrounds. A guy on a warm weather team may have played college in a cold climate place and gotten used to it. A guy from a warm weather hometown may have been playing in cold climates so long it doesn’t bother him anymore.
There may be a slight advantage but it’s almost irrelevant at the professional level. A good team will perform regardless of weather conditions. The Bears are not there yet, but who would’ve thought they’d be better in domes then at Soldier Field? And it’s not because they’re built for speed – Patriots and Packers are pretty fast teams, too, but they don’t seem to be affected by weather.
by NorthSideBearsFan on Dec 13, 2010 11:36 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
by GriggsBriggs on Dec 13, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
it's invalid, but not dead
the concept of bear weather does not really have a basis in fact, for the reasons given by moon mullins above, though he is wrong about New Mexico weather – it gets cold here, at least where Urlacher played, just not as much precip.
it’d time we got over the concept of bear weather.
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott
Historically, most good teams
play in cold weather climates. Steelers, Eagles, Patriots, (throat clear) umm Packers. Football is played in the winter, so all teams get their fair share of “Bears” weather.
For the team as it is built (on offense) now, yes
But it can always come back to life if they decide to change the way the entire team is built so they can play better in the snow.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
This team as it's constructed needs good weather,
and a good playing surface to succeed.
You can not expect your speedy defense to make plays when they are forced to react (on poor footing) to an offense that knows where it’s going. You can’t expect your offense that is based of timing and speed to be able to make consistent plays, especially when the Patriots have an almost 40 to 20 minutes advantage in time of possession.
All of this wouldn’t matter if the Bears offensive line was better.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 13, 2010 12:09 PM CST reply actions
Imagine... we haven't even played yet
on the sloppy, muddy Soldier Field sod. Martzfense is likely to struggle then too.
So then...
who’s the genius that constructed the team to play on the wrong surface? Or perhaps, the genius who hasn’t assembled a good O-line?
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
duh...
JA
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 13, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
It's more than just JA...
it’s JA and Lovie together. They built this team from day one with the idea of running a fast undersized defense to execute the defensive philosophy Lovie was brought in to install. My gripe is that the idiots that made that calculation are still making the football decisions for the Bears. It’s not like the Soldier Field was an unknown stadium when they both got here. The analogy that comes to mind:
Do not buy a Ferrari to tow your yacht!
Sometimes you have to pay attention to the world around you and realize where you are before you start off toward the promised land!
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
I don't mind the defensive moves
as much as the entire lack of attention the offensive line has received… when the best thing you can say about your best offensive lineman is he’s average, that’s a problem.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 13, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
I have to agree with Lester on this one
If you want to build a team that will play well in Soldier Field, make sure you have a good offensive line and can run the ball down the throat of the other teams in December and January. The JA & LS team has done a good job bringing players except for Offensive linemen. In the last couple of days I have read people calling for a corner back as a #1 draft choice or a defensive tackle or just fore Lovie and the team will play better. You can fore every coach on the team,but you will still have the same poor offensive line.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
That's probably the biggest reason why we got killed yesterday
We couldn’t run the ball to save our lives, so we abandoned it. After that, the Patriots knew we were going to throw the ball and we couldn’t move the chains. New England had almost a 2-1 advantage in time of possession. We couldn’t keep our defense off of the field, and Brady picked us apart.
I don't disagree about the O-line...
it has been a sore subject with me since this year’s draft when I was screaming for a guard in the 3rd or 4th round. I see them use the same philosophy for the O-linemen that they have with the D-linemen; placing a premium on speed and movement over other football skills, like say blocking or tackling. Again, it’s not the specific players they chose as much as it is the overall philosophy that places a premium on attributes their home field won’t allow them to use as an advantage. It’s just an utter lack of common sense and a fact that does not require psychic clairvoyance to figure out.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
re: picking a DT or CB early
that’s more about value than anything else. you can get a starting guard in round 3. you can get a starting RT in round 2. DT and CB are much more top-heavy. i totally agree that o-line is our most pressing need, of course.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Kinda what I was thinking myself...
quality interior O-linemen tend to be available in the 3rd-5th rounds. Quality CBs are gone by round 3 for the most part. DT versus RT, I would tend to favor a quality 2nd round DT and get a RT prospect in the 3rd/4th round. Probably gonna have to go get an LT and WR too. That means FA signing at some point.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
We should still try and get
A “real” franchise left tackle (unlike CDub) – or a genuine, “between the tackles” running back in the first round. After that we should take the best available player in each round, with an eye out for a CB, guard, DT, physical WR or other O-lineman. Our O-line is obviously killing our offense (but also our defense by not moving the chains and keeping our D out on the field for so long).
disagree
omiyale isn’t terrible at LT. and who knows what we do with williams (RT? RG?) webb is a project, no doubt. but we BADLY need better penetration from the middle of the d-line and a big upgrade at the CB spot. taking a RB in the 1st round is somewhat indefensible, honestly. good DTs and CBs are usually gone by round 2, but RTs and Gs remain. i mean, you take the best player available, but i really wouldn’t touch LT or RB in the draft at all.
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2010 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
If we had been able to run the ball
Against NE, it would have changed the whole complextion of the ball game. Once we had abandoned the run, and the Patriots knew that we had to throw it, the ball game was essentially over. The only way to fix our running game is to get better players on the line, and/or in the backfield.
Thanks to years of ineptness by Angelo, we have so many glaring holes on both sides of the ball, though, that we could sit here all day discussing them.
who says that speed is the # 1 thing they look for when drafting a player?
speed would make a difference between chosing between two players who are otherwise equal. I’m no draft maven but were no offensive linemen worth having in rounds 4,5 or 6? not just a guard but a tackle or center? The Oline is holding this team down.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
well you actually got a chuckle out of me with that one
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
were no offensive linemen worth having in rounds 4,5 or 6?
Don’t be silly. That’s when Jerry reaches for his value and sleeper picks at DL and DB. Come the 7th round, though, and he’s all over the OL prospects like a fly on a turd.
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It's only considered "Bear Weather"
when the snowstorm’s name is Ditka.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
I still think the play of the NE defense was the big suprise
There D managed to make plays in the snow, our offense lives and dies by the performance of the Oline and when they give Cutler 3-5 seconds to go throught his progressions we look ok. When he is in survival mode there is no time for these complex Martz routes to materialize and we look lost as an offense.
We all knew Brady was going to put up points, we failed to follow suit and it cost us the game.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 13, 2010 12:19 PM CST reply actions
the NE defense has been playing real good of late
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 13, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
this really turns into a debate on the tampa 2
the fact is, if we play that kind of defense, winter weather is a problem. the tampa 2 is predicated on speed. you want turf for that. you want the elements (snow, wind) to not interfere. basically, you want to play in…tampa. tommie harris pointed this out, quite astutely, after the thrashing yesterday. fact is, the tampa 2 defense is NOT a good D to play in chicago, unless we go to turf and put up a dome. when you get horrible weather like yesterday (which kinda happens a lot in chicago, esp. when the games really matter in the winter months), you lose your comparative advantage as a tampa 2 defense. the pats don’t rely on speed on defense…not surprisingly, they handled the weather just fine yesterday. somebody needs to start pointing this issue out more: the tampa 2 is good for tampa…not for chicago in the winter (unless we radically change soldier field).
tommie said
the tampa 2 doesn’t work outside in inclement weather? its a terrible point, so i should assume he did. like every other defense, you need pressure. the dline, like most of the year, did not do that. if the bears ran a 3-4, and the 3 +1 didn’t get pressure, there would have been as many issues.
here’s the kicker about the cover 2 everyone hates….they don’t have the personnel to do anything else. do you think tillman and jennings are strong, cover corners? which one of their DTs can clog the middle? when was the last time urlacher blew up an o lineman?
they may not always run the cover 2 out of the 4-3 base, but they’re not built to suddenly do something differnet the majority of the time.
its kind of true, though
you need speed and leverage, something you lose if the footing is bad, which it frequently is in the winter in northern states. i don’t think cold impacts it at all, but snow and crappy fields definitely do. the reason the colts do so well with it is…they play half their games indoors. i don’t like it, period, but it does seem to work. except when the weather is awful. which is a problem in chicago.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Tommie Harris should work on his pass rush and shut the hell up
Guy is a non factor these days, the cover 2 would have worked well had he actually hurried up the other teams QB or actually, do I say it, actually sack the QB. When TB has 7-8 seconds in the pocket receivers have time to get into those soft spots and the whole D falls flat on its face. I am sick of hearing about the how the scheme failed the Bears, EXECUTION was the problem not the scheme. You could run the 46 Zone or draw plays up on cocktail napkin but when the defense isnt executing none of that matters. players making plays wins games, they did, we didnt.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 13, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
+1
The reason why we got killed by NE wasn’t the cover 2. The cover 2 is just basically a zone – and it’s supposed to take away the deep ball. ANY scheme is going to fail against the Patriots if you give Brady time to sit back and pick you apart – cover 2, 3-4, 4-3, zone, whatever.
The reason why we were humiliated was our inability to pressure Brady – and throw him, Welker and Deion Branch off of their timing. The NE line is so solid though, that very few defenses are going to be able to pressure Brady.
according to jeff dickerson
they weren’t even in the cover two for most of the game, since they were down so quickly.
you could also throw the WRs off by...jamming them
this is the fatal flaw…if you can’t generate pressure from the front 4 AND you play a really soft zone, a great QB will kill you. brady had time, and his receivers were generally pretty open because we give them tons of space and we’re not that good in coverage. we need to wake up to reality…tillman isn’t a good coverage CB at all anymore, and the DT formerly known as tommie harris 1.0 ’ain’t ever returning.
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 AM CST up reply actions
if you were watching the game
surely you would have noticed that the Bears played cover 1,cover 3, quad zone, and nickle as well as Tampa 2. They gave NE a lot of looks and Brady read them all and took advantage of them all. Its not like we got beat just because of Tampa 2.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Check. Mate?
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 13, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
Tom Brady is the best QB playing right now.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 13, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
but we do not have the personnel to really implement much other than a zone defense. quite honestly, we need better CBs. if we still want to play zone defense, but aren’t able to generate quite the pass rush because of the field, we absolutely need to cover receivers for an extra second or two. tillman absolutely positively cannot do that on a consistent basis anymore. so…i guess maybe you’re right, the tampa 2 CAN still work, but we need better coverage skills in the secondary when “bear weather” happens and our front 4 need an extra second or two to generate a pass rush. otherwise, we get massacres like yesterday.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
shut down corners are not easy to find
Your probably too young to remember Rosey Taylor from the 63 championship team. The Bears played a lot of zone defense but Rosey was great in man coverage as well. We could really use a guy like that right now.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
we don't even need a great CB
just one with better coverage skills and speed then tillman. if tillman had better coverage skills and better make-up speed, i bet a lot of the completions against him wouldn’t be made, even with the space he gives wideouts. man, i miss donnell woolford.
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
Bear Weather is a Myth
it always was. I remember when Joe Montana and the Niners played the Bears for the NFC championship in Soldier Field and everybody was saying Bear weather and all that. The Niners beat them then too.
the tampa 2 can work in that
cold, okay. snow and bad field? not so much.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
Why not?
It’s worked in the past. Continues to work. I mean, I think people fail to remember that we got to the super bowl on a tampa-2, playing at home. In January.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 13, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
not much snow
just cold weather. the only game that i remember being “bad” was vs. the saints, and we also had a MUCH better o-line plus a punishing ground game, which helped us win that one.
by guy incognito on Dec 13, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
i'd take both of those.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 13, 2010 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
well, i think the running backs aren’t bad at all. if only the line were better…that would help the D out a lot, because we could keep them on the sidelines while we pounded the ball.
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2010 12:30 AM CST up reply actions
Where Was Marcus Harrison?
Very surprising to me that on a day like that you’d pick Corey Wooten over MH. In that weather I think you need big bodies in the middle.
Also, does anybody on the planet think that having Manu out there is better than Dez Clark? I say let Dez play that H back position. He’s a decent blocker and a smart guy.
Think..
most people here would rather see Clark on the field, but Manu is one of Martz. Thought Harrison was out due to illness.
two sides to every story
and we are not hearing either side of the why Clark is inactive every week.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Harrison isn't very good
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 13, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Bear weather won't die but it should
I agree, it officially died against the 49ers in the 80s, and I think it should remain dead but i won’t. All the writers who today are mentioning it’s death or irrelevance, while they are correct, there is no doubt in my mind they will play it up again next year or this year if we were to get a homefield playoff game. The weather can help a team but I think, by and large, it doesn’t really matter. Both teams have to play in the conditions and in most cases, the better team will win.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Dec 13, 2010 2:15 PM CST reply actions
bear weather
Doesn’t exist anymore. I remember after SB 20, we played those playoff games at home against WAS & SF. If we would’ve won those games, I could see an argument made in favor of it. I supported the idea too until I saw Montana & Rice destroy us in the 88 NFC title game.
Egads
Guess the cold got to L Smith, who appeared to have been frozen from the neck up.
The game showed us all who really has the best team, and that the Bears aren’t very good. I still think the Bears are in a class with the Redskins, 49ners or Browns.
thanks for stopping by Coach Cowher
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Don't forget the eagles and packers who we beat
knucklehead..go haunt someone else
"Better lucky than Good", but we are good! We really are..
Bear weather
Just as it has been stated in previous posts, Bear weather is only an advantage vs certain teams. This is especially NOT the case for New England. I checked Google Earth, and the latitude is very similar when comparing Foxboro, MA to Chicago, IL.
Couple that with these fun things called Noreaster's and the weather is very comparable if not worse in Foxboro :P
Last I checked it was 50 and rainy up by you :D
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 13, 2010 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
If the Bears were a big, bruising, physical team on both sides of the ball...
Then I supposed poor weather could favor them. But, we are not the Pittsburgh Steelers. And, it’s a damn shame we aren’t, because we have such a wonderful tradition of football, that unfortunately has accounted for a ton of losing in the last 60 years. We should have multiple Lombardi trophies on our shelf, like the Steelers, Cowboys, 49ers, Patriots, and Packers do.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
i think this needs to be said:
WHERE THE HELL IS DEZ CLARK?!!!!!!!????
why is one of our most consistent players languishing on the bench, actually, not even dressed for the game? who’s running this show?
Agreed
We are a speed team, We have a better record away than we have at home which shows how horrid our field is.
I don't blame the field for any of the home losses,
we laid big old giant turds against Seattle and Washington.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 13, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
Bear weather died
When Walter and Neil Anderson left, since then we haven’t had a run game to be proud of for more than 2 years in a row
"Word of advice, don’t join, Bears fans are crazy."--- D-Jackfan10
we should follow darth maul...er...bellicheck's lead
he knows his team is built in the trenches. they always have a great o-line and a competent, if not very good, d-line. not surprisingly, the do very well in “bear weather” games, because…they built their team for foxboro in december/january. brady’s great (of course he is, he went to michigan!), but on top of that, he has constantly had a great o-line. imagine what cutler could do with a good o-line. we might actually have the real martz passing game, which would be pretty freaking dynamic.
I hope not
I grew up hoping for snow games, hoping for those physical, trenches games, sadly we aren’t built that way anymore.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
It's barely relevant
Not every team is well-coached and disciplined like the Pats. While I don’t believe Lovie is to blame for this loss, I do think lack of adjustments by him (mostly on Welker) played a role. He was almost ten yards down the field on those stupid bubble screens; no defender was lined up across from him. It led me to believe that those plays were not the intended called play.
In regard to the weather, the Bears probably get blown out in any condition. I was at the game, and I didn’t see a way for them to win the game. Their only chance was to come up with those interceptions- that would’ve had a dramatic effect on the outcome of the game. Actually, that’s 14 points right there where the Pats don’t score.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
When you leave your defense on the field for 40 minutes
(or whatever it was) Brady is going to kill you. I think we had 4 turnovers to their 0, if I’m not mistaken. It seemed like our defense was out there for an eternity.






















