WCG Match-Up Post: Grades and Reviews for week 14... Sort of
by Dominique Blanton on Dec 14, 2010 8:29 PM CST
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Um, so that happened. I didn't see the Bears winning this game, but at the same time I didn't think they would get their doors blown off like that. For people who are fans of my Tuesday grades and review post, I'm doing things a little differently this week because the overall performance of the line was horrible. It didn't have anything to do with effort, because the effort was there. I said last week that this will be the Bears toughest test of the season, and this past Sunday it sure seemed that way.
My concerns about the match-up were that the DL's lack of pressure in the interior would be exposed against an elite OL and QB, and it did get exposed. The strength of the Patriots OL is their interior, and if the Bears DTs could have been disruptive it would have made the DE's jobs easier. Some fans claim that the Bears didn't show up, abut that wasn't case. The Bears effort was there, it's just that the Pats showed the Bears, and football fans, that the Bears are not in their league just yet. They also showed that the Bears need to get some more production from both DT positions or it's going to be one and done in the playoffs.
As far as QB Jay Cutler is concerned, I hope when he was on the sidelines watching Tom Brady move up and down the field on a very tough defense that he was taking notes. If you want to be in that elite level with the Bradys, Mannings, and Breeses you have to put in the time. Those guys didn't just only rely on their talent; they put time in the film room and with their receivers. Their success is not only because of their talent, but because they have become students of the game. It's time for Cutler to wake up and become a student of the game. He has a golden opportunity to put himself in that group by having a stellar performance in the playoffs all the way to the Super Bowl.
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We still had 3 sacks...
okay, that and the kickoff returns were the only silver dull gray lining we might have had. We need to buck up and win out…all the way through the postseason
think Manning,Brady and Brees might owe some of their success to their O-lines?
What do you base your theory of "Cutler’s not a student of the game?
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Not throwing off your back foot when you actually have protection
Knowing what to do when your first read is gone
Knowing the good time to take shots down field
Steady throwing into double and triple coverage
I know the O-line and Jerry Angelo are the two main factors that are keeping Jay from taking that next step, but he has flaws in his game that needs to be fixed in order for him to be elite.
by Dominique Blanton on Dec 14, 2010 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Come on
Brady almost got picked 3 times in that game, and he had all day when he dropped back to pass.
Jay has to play behind a line that barely lets him set up in a three step drop before he starts to feel the heat. He just doesn’t have the time in the pocket to pick apart defenses the way Brady does. How do you study film to help your timing when your dancing around to avoid getting sacked? IMO we could swap QB’s with NE and they would continue to win and we would be bitching at Brady.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
just so you know I am not arguing that Cutler is an elite QB
I don’t think he will ever be an elite QB, but with a good OL he could be the best Chicago has had since Luckman.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Even when he does have time he's jumpy in the pocket.
by Dominique Blanton on Dec 14, 2010 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
Wouldn't you be? Brady....
is when teams are getting to him, as well. So is Manning and so is Brees. Evidence? Manning most of this year. Brady in the one-off perfect season of ‘07 in the Super Bowl. do you remember him running for his life? Do you remember the mistakes he made even when they weren’t getting to him? Well, Jay has dealt with that all season.
I can give him jumpy in the pocket.
I also don’t think not knowing what to do after his first read has anything to do with it. Brady and Manning have been in the same system for years. In fact, they almost as many years as jay has games in the same systems. They no longer have to think about what to do. Jay still does have to think and that costs time.
The second two I would agree with. He needs to learn when to throw the ball away, when to check down, and when to take that shot. That will hopefully come with time in the system as well, but some of it, i believe (and there is nothing but a gut feeling to base this off of, but I believe it just the same) is that Jay has tons of confidence and believes that he can squeeze that ball in there and that he can carry the team that way. He needs to develop that instinct that tells him when the right time is to be a gunslinger and when the right time is to be a game manager.
Unfortunately, few QBs develop that. Favre never did. Manning and Brady have. Kelly and Elway never did. Montana definitely did. Will Cutler? Guess we’ll find out. But that lesson will probably be the difference between good and great for Jay. For every Farve, Elway and Kelly there are 100 Grossman’s, Plummer’s, Carr’s and Boller’s.
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 15, 2010 8:37 AM CST up reply actions
Hopefully Martz can be around for awhile.
I’m one of the few fans that think Martz can make Cutler into a elite QB. I just think Cutler needs to fully take in to Martz teachings in order to make that leap. He has all the skills to become a great QB (I know this from following his career since he came out of Vandy, big fan), but just need to fully get the mental part down.
by Dominique Blanton on Dec 15, 2010 1:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You wouldn't be jumpy when you've taken 30+ sacks in 12.5 games?
Seriously? When you’ve been hit as often as he’s been, and when you can’t see out of your periphery because of the helmet, and when you can’t see what’s going on with your Tackles, wouldn’t you too be jumpy behind that atrocious offensive line?
When Jay Cutler plays a single game where he’s not Pressured, Hurried, Knocked Down, or Sacked, he will gain trust in his offensive line, and he will lose that jumpiness. It happens with every other QB in the League (as T-Train put so nicely above me).
As far as the shuck-it mentality, as much as everybody here hates anybody saying it, it sounds just like a certain Green Bay gunslinger cerca 1993. Nothing new here. This is Jay Cutler’s third offensive system in three years. And quite possibly the most complex one in the NFL, at least from a QB confidence standpoint. Again, protection breeds success. You give Jay Cutler consistent time without defenders breathing down his neck, and he’ll start seeing his opportunities better and reacting to them like a high level QB should. He will never be in the Manning/Brady/Brees tier of QBs. It’ll be enough if he’s in the Roethlisberger/Eli/Rivers tier with our defense and Special Teams.
He has plenty of time to reach that the Manning Brady and Brees tier of QB's as he is only 27.
The first step of trying to get him to that elite level is to get rid of Jerry Angelo, and bring in a more than competent talent evaluator.
by Dominique Blanton on Dec 15, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ding Ding Ding!!!!!!!!!
you win the prize for truthiness, sir! That prize is a rec!
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 17, 2010 8:12 AM CST up reply actions
I was jumpy for several months after I got back from Vietnam
Cutler has taken a pounding this year , he’s playing behind the worst OL in the league, he has got to be ready to jackrabbit to avoid sacks jumpy I don’t blame him. I bet the first note he took was “boy look what you can do when you have time in the pocket to read a defense”
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Anudder good ting
was Urlacher. He made a lot of plays. But one man can’t contain da Pats.
Often Wrong, Never In Doubt.
Yikes!
we have the 32nd spot sowed up a 10 pts lead over #32 thats a fail of epic proportions.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
over #31 :)
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Cutler can be the best QB in the NFL, if he wants to be
Their success is not only because of their talent, but because they have become students of the game.
Case in point. Look at Vick this year. He’s played like a QB, not an athlete. The results speak for themselves.
I’m not saying Jay comes in late all the time or anything like that. I’m confident he puts in work day in, day out. But what I do think, is that if Cutler puts in an equal amount of work at Halas Hall, with his coaches, WRs, RBs, etc… That guys like Manning, Brees, and Brady do day in, day out, year in, year out. Sky’s the limit for Cutler.
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I agree. No QB is good when they don’t have time to throw and in the games he has had time to throw, he’s looked solid. My biggest issue is the lack of talent around him and for that I blame Angelo. How can you trade for a franchise QB and not have the OL to protect him in place??? Buffone and O’B said on 670 he built the offense all wrong that the OL should’ve been of utmost importance, but I agree, #6 is the best QB we’ve had since McMahon. Some more film study and better talent around him, he could be great.
defensive tackles
agree with you nique, the defensive tackles have got to play better or it will be a short run
not just in terms of the pass rush but also in slowing down the offensive linemen from getting to the second level.
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