The Bears Den: December 15th, 2010 Edition
by Kev H on Dec 15, 2010 8:13 AM CST
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So sticking with the Katy Perry references
Will links to this week’s injury reports be title “Who’s in and who’s out, who’s up and who’s down”?
Yes.
We will also judge beat writers by “who’s wrong and who’s right.”
We will not get to “who’s black, and who’s white”, because that’s not how we roll.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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I'll get into it
Frank Black is white, and Barry White is black.
Barry White and the Pixies...
it almost sounds like a new Xmas special!
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
And we should probably steer clear of
“We fight we break up. We kiss we make up”
13. It's a magic number
Imagine that?
As soon as DMS returns to his natural position (SS), he starts to excel. Hmm…
It really bothered me that Jay threw two INTs when the game was out of reach; it sure seemed like he had the approach of “who cares, we’re getting blown out anyways!” Both passes were to Pat defenders with no Bears in sight.
Urlacher has to be comeback player of the year. Besides dropping that pass across the middle, he’s been incredible. His forced fumble was a BS call, and it leads me to believe that the NFL wanted to keep the Pats streak of no turnovers alive and well.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
I've always been afraid to ask
but what does the S in DMS stand for? I’ve seen Manning abbreviated that way on here before but never was sure what the S means.
Syndrome.
Danieal Manning Syndrome; the shuffling of a player to prevent them from learning a consistent position.
by Steven Schweickert on Dec 15, 2010 8:42 AM CST up reply actions
There are no dumb questions...
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 15, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
We did have a WCG Glossary Post a long time ago
It’s probably time for a new one.
I alsost forgot about that. Way to bring it back.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 16, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
Urlacher has something like
130 total tackles, 4 Sacks, and 1 INT…and we still have 3 games left…he is without a doubt Comeback player of the year
Superman wears an Urlacher Jersey under his costume
by BearNecessities on Dec 15, 2010 9:04 AM CST up reply actions
Michael Vick would like a word......
As much as I would love to see #54 win it, Unless Vick has a total collapse in the final three games, he’s got to be a lock.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 15, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
I don't understand how.
He came back LAST year.
13. It's a magic number
by suckmyditka on Dec 15, 2010 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
He wasn't a starter last year, and you don't.....
have to have missed a season to get the award, though someone coming back from a serious injury is usually the recipient. See Chad Pennington for an example. He won the award in ’06 for having a great season after missing much of ’05 to a rotor cuff tear, but also won the award in ’08 for regaining form after and up and down season in ’07 that ended with him being replaced in the off-season with Brett Favre.
If I went with my heart, Urlacher is my first choice. He missed a season and then returned to play at a very high level (and this may be the bias talking, but I honestly believe he is having an All-Pro season, not just a good season or even a Pro Bowl season), especially when you consider how important he is to this team.
But if I take my own personal biases out of it, Vick not only returned to a starting Job this season after several years away from the game and then in a gimmick role in his first season back behind McNabb, but he is performing at a higher level that he EVER has, especially as a passer. I just don’t realistically see the Pro Football Writers of America passing that up, regardless of how much I would enjoy seeing Urlacher get the award.
Now i could counter my own argument with the fact that the adversity Vick has overcome was self-inflicted. But while I think it’s a legitimate argument, having read so many gushing stories about Vick this season, not to mention a bunch of stories forwarding Vick as the leading candidate, I doubt that the PFWA will care about that little fact.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 16, 2010 7:09 AM CST up reply actions
You're right
That rule sucks.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
On paper, yes
But Vick has gotten so much more media hype than anyone else. Plus he’s a quarterback, and Urlacher plays defense.
Is SS is natural position?
I’m not sure. Safety is… yes. But SS? I don’t know. Doesn’t really matter what I think, because of the way he’s used, it’s rarely traditional ‘SS’ anyhow.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 15, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Scouting report
Via Jacob’s post in June…
Manning was named third-team All-American at defensive back by the Football Gazette after recording 56 tackles (28 solo) and leading the Lone Star Conference with six interceptions in 2003. The strong safety also averaged 35.9 yards on seven kickoff returns with a touchdown and 9.2 yards on 23 punt returns that year. He also saw action on offense, catching six passes for 191 yards (31.8 avg) and two touchdowns.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
it would be very glorious indeed
if the bears were to win the nfc north title monday night. it’d be a good turnaround from a 1st-class pasting the week before and would get this taste of football-related ick out of the mouth.
and eyes, ears, etc.
"Pasting"
The present tense act of traveling to the past.
Ex. “Marty McFly goes ‘Pasting’ on a daily basis with his friend ‘The Prof’”
13. It's a magic number
by suckmyditka on Dec 15, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
whatever dictionary
you pulled that out of is wrong and/or imaginary.
by reefermadness3 on Dec 15, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
you pulled that out of iswrong and/or imaginaryawesome.
I went ahead and corrected that for you.
The Minnesota Vikings: Where we're so desperate to win a Super Bowl, we'll even sign washed-up Packers.
by Robert Rence on Dec 15, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
that l story is a bit creepy
even if it is oak park, that is still pretty close. moral of the story; throw a beggar out onto the tracks before they do the same to you.
Are the victims ok???
Or were they pushed on the tracks right before a train/ or hit the third rail???
The link was the first I’d heard of this, but I’m up here in the land of Cheese!!!
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Dec 15, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
Amazingly... we can clinch the Division Sunday
With a Bears win, and a Packers loss. The Pack are going to New England, probably without Rodgers. That Pats should kill them, and Brady has won like 25 or 26 straight at home.
I just hope it’s NOT all snowy, outdoors in Minnesota
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
I meant Monday of course... for MNF!
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
please no more snow
cold is fine for this team, snow is obviously not. the possibility of a rodgers-less packers team beating the patriots in foxboro is as unlikely as, well the lions beating the packers at least. i wonder what the spread will be for that game?
by reefermadness3 on Dec 15, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
We're supposed to get a couple more inches today (TWSS)
and some more flurries the rest of the week.
Nothing as massive as we got Saturday.
In other news...
Brett Favre will get his first chance in over 20 Brett Favre years to play Brett Favre football in a college stadium. Brett Favre likes Brett Favre’s chances to perform at Brett Favre’s best even though Brett Favre acknowledges that Brett Favre doesn’t always play Brett Favre’s best football outdoors now that Brett Favre has entered the twilight of Brett Favre’s career. But as the saying goes, if you can’t beat Brett Favre, join Brett Favre. Brett Favre ya later…..
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
There seems to be a theme here....
I just can’t place my finger on it…..
by David in Maine on Dec 15, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
The theme is Wranglers.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 15, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
What's your wrangler story
Superman wears an Urlacher Jersey under his costume
by BearNecessities on Dec 15, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Don't talk to me.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 15, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
…
Superman wears an Urlacher Jersey under his costume
by BearNecessities on Dec 15, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Just playin.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 15, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
that was me responding, but not saying anything
i had no other options
Superman wears an Urlacher Jersey under his costume
by BearNecessities on Dec 15, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
Good job. Proud of you I am.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 15, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
In him the force is strong...yeeeees.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 16, 2010 7:14 AM CST up reply actions
lets hope he decides not to go into broadcasting
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
+100000000000000000000000
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
Long ago...
Brett Favre lost the ability to play effectively in cold weather. As a Wrangler jean legend once said….Brett Favre likes getting dirty in the Mississippi mudd, but never on a frozen Minnesota field.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
propheteer
for some reason I get the sneaking suspicion that some people may wish for a reference of some sort to back this up…I can’t put my finger on it though
Superman wears an Urlacher Jersey under his costume
by BearNecessities on Dec 15, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Back what up?
As GG just said below, he’s not very comfortable playing in adverse weather. What happened the last time he played as a Packer in Soldiers? He turned the ball over, and showed zero will to play.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
C'mon man.
If you make a blanket statement like I quoted above, you can’t honestly give something GG said + a single bad game against the Bears as the basis of your argument.
It would be very interesting to see Favre’s stats and wins from bad weather games beginning long ago. I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m just asking what your statement is based on.
Well, being a 41 year-old man
with nagging injuries wouldn’t help him to play well in those conditions. I’m strictly going off his recent cold-weather games. I don’t know where to look to find out the temps…
’07- playoff game versus the Giants…54 comp%, 70 rating, 2 ints and 2 tds.
’04- playoff game in GB versus the Vikes…66 comp%, 55 rating, 4 ints and 1 td.
’03- playoff game in Philly he was OK…53 comp , 82 rating, 1 int and 2 tds.
Same year versus Seattle in GB he was great…68 comp, 103 rating, 1 td no ints.
’02- playoff versus Atl in GB…47 comp%, 54 rating, 2 ints and 1 td.
I believe last year was an aberration cause he had loads of talent and statistically his best year.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Remember
I believe last year was an aberration cause he had loads of talent and statistically his best year.
He played in a dome for home games last year…
Thanks for the assistance!
How dumb of me to overlook something so elementary.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Here, just for argument's sake (since you and I haven't argued in a while):
Statement #1: “Long ago… Brett Favre lost the ability to play effectively in cold weather”
Then, I asked you to back that statement up, and you said:
Statement #2: “Well, being a 41 year-old man with nagging injuries wouldn’t help him to play well in those conditions.”
Those are saying completely different things. #2 cannot justify #1.
Plus, I asked you to back up statement #1, and your response was not only As GG said so below… but also I’m strictly going off his recent cold-weather games.
How can going on his recent games justify saying he lost the ability long ago?
I guess my question to you is this:
Why do you say that Brett Favre lost his ability to play in adverse weather long ago?
PS: Even going on the games you listed above, that is four games over a five year time span. Again, not exactly justifying #1.
O know you weren't asking me but....
This is one sites opinion as of last year.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Or I know (o no!)
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Thank you
Though he made his hall of fame career in the snow at Lambeau, Brett Favre has struggled during his last seven games in temperatures below 38 degrees.
I listed most of these games above, but I guess an actually link to those games were needed to show concrete evidence why he sucks now in cold weather.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
I just think Brett Favre sucks
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 15, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I did my part!
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 16, 2010 7:40 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah but
those were the “cold” games that I know of that he played during that span, and those games were all crucial playoff games.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Recent can also mean 5-7 years
Especially considering he’s played like 20 or so years. If we’re talking about Cutler, then yes, my statement doesn’t hold water. Being in a dome will limit the amount of cold-weather games. Again, those are the actual cold weathered games I’m sure he’s been terrible in.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
In addition
I wasn’t intending for it to be a “blanket statement,” but rather a funny knock on the hated Favre. Since when have we started to defend the Bears arch-nemesis for the past two decades?
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
I think the Bears could have every advantage possible Monday
If Favre plays, he doesn’t do well in the cold anymore and add in the fact that he’s banged up and advantage Bears. If Tavaris Jackson plays, he sucks so advantage Bears and if their third string or some flunky they sign off the street plays, advantage Bears again. So as far as their QB goes we have every advantage. If we can score say 14 or 20 points it shouldn’t be a problem.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Dec 15, 2010 10:59 AM CST reply actions
GG
do you have any worries that Cold/Snow//Night will effect Cutler…it kind of makes me a little nervous, I’m also slightly concerned about injuries occuring during this game
Superman wears an Urlacher Jersey under his costume
by BearNecessities on Dec 15, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
Don't worry...
TCF’s turf will hold up better than ours…
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Dec 15, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
I figure
Cutler at least is used to it; growing up in Indiana, played college is a warm state that still gets some cold weather and played in Denver before Chicago. He’s well versed in these conditions. Plus look at the Monday night game against the Vikings last year, it was about 20 degrees ambient, 15 wind chill and he threw 4 TDs 1 INT. Plus overall, unlike the Vikings’ QBs, he’s healthy.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Dec 15, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
monday night
Hopefully the D comes out and sets the tone early…and the O scores 10-14 in the 1st qtr…a quick start will be key in this one, score early and take the crowd out of the game.
And hopefully Tillman doesn't slip a gazillion times
I think it’s time for a Bowman sighting.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Monday Night
Hopefully the Stadium isn’t muck like soldier field or we may only win by triple digits.
Pretty sure they have field turf at the Bank, so no muck is expected.
Might be icy, though, as they didn’t think they should bother to put heaters under the field. And after living in Minnesota for a few months, I can safely tell you that they cannot shovel to save their lives, so the clowns they get out there shoveling will likely not do a very good job.
The new guy here
Anyways sorry if I cant provide a link but another story that I think should be up there is the situation in AZ concerning Larry Fitzgerald. He apparantly wants out of the desert in favor for playing on a winning team that has a good QB. That sounds like we fit the bill perfectly. Also I for one say that if Urlacher doesn’t win comeback player of the year then they shall Ditka’s rage!
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 15, 2010 7:24 PM CST reply actions
I'd offer a first or second rounder
Then draft a guard, center, a DT, and a CB.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
He would be a great addition
to go with a new offensive line.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
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. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Haha its all good
Yea he would be the perfect fit. Good size, great speed, and besides his outrageous hands he is by far the best route runner there is. And the O-line surprizingly aint as bad as people think, they are just a little raw. Webb is getting better, moving Chris Williams to RG then placing Herman “the house” Johnson at LG along with Omiyale getting experiance bingo you have a decent O-line. And combined with Forte at RB, Knox opposite, and Cutler at QB and this offense has no limits.
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 15, 2010 9:01 PM CST reply actions
I don't know how bad you think our O-line is
but it is easily the worst in the nfl.
they have given up 47 sacks the average is 28
When it comes to converting a 3rd or 4th down or score from 1 or 2 yards out
they have a success rate of 43% the nfl average is 61%.
at best you can say is that they still suck, but not as bad as before before the bye week.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Jets coach ordered a wall of inactive players to force gunner to run around them
Anyone else think this sounds a lot like what happened to Roach during the Eagles game? Knocked out of bounds and have a line of players to run past or through to get back onto the field? If the Jets coach hadn’t tripped that player would anyone have said anything about the extra blockers on the play?
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Is my mind a'goin on me or am I watchin you jibber jabber like some sorta jibberty box. Jibber Jabber on! Jibber Jabber on! -- Early Cuyler
all he had to do was stand still and it would have all been liget.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
how is this guy still working for the jets?
“desperation is a stinky cologne john”
i mean really, how stupid is this guy? this is an NFL game, not division III football. there are a bunch of cameras covering virtually every possible angle imaginable. who really thinks they could get away with this? unless of course you are banking on the dolphins player having zero brainpower or something else unpossible.
i am looking forward to the bears pounding this team into the frozen soldier field tundra the day after xmas.
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