Keys to Victory: Bears at Vikings
by Dane Noble on Dec 20, 2010 7:42 AM CST
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PrintThere are many things that could be considered important in tonight's contest between the Bears and the Vikings - the running game from Adrian Peterson, the weather, the Bears OL- but when it all comes down to it, we just need to figure out how to end up with more points.
Last week in wintry conditions, the Bears offense looked terrible, and the defense couldn't stop the Brady Attack. Hopefully, Mike Martz and Lovie Smith saw enough on film to not have a repeat performance when they take the field tonight. But what will be the most important factor?
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if we don't stop Peterson we don't win this game
also
" we just need to figure out how to end up with more points."
excellent idea! this should be our goal every week.
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott
We "contained" him
pretty good last time, but he’s always Minnesota’s biggest threat. A running game from our side would be nice.
I voted "other"
As the key to victory is not breaking your damn neck out there tonight.
I’ve got other plans for tonight, so I won’t be around here. I hope first for a game without injuries and then for a Vikes win. Either way, I hope it’s fun to watch.
Talk to you folks Tuesday!
The Minnesota Vikings: Where we're so desperate to win a Super Bowl, we'll even sign washed-up Packers.
I almost voted "other"
Cleats. Hopefully they brought them with.
by NorthSideBearsFan on Dec 20, 2010 8:11 AM CST reply actions
Field Turf from what I know.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
ugh
i don’t have a good feeling going into this with a shitty field and cold and snow on the way.
this seems like a perfect set up for an AP breakout and a distracted bears team to putz around in the snow.
I don't think it's been mentioned... but maybe
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 8:27 AM CST up reply actions
good point! lol
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott
Wish this game was in the dome
Where I feel confident the bears could score and easily stop Joe Webb. Now? I’m not so sure. They Vikings have a better ground game than us and we won’t be able to offset that with our passing game, that’s the downside of having undersized quick receivers is they can’t make their cuts in the north weather. The martzfense does not get along with snow and rain and non-dome playing conditions.
by lopey986 on Dec 20, 2010 8:35 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I do share our concern...
and I ask again why this team is built for speed first when they play a majority of their games on “slow” surfaces. Now add one more “slow” surface game to the schedule and I wonder what they were thinking. However, the Bears are going to win this game, albeit it will be a close contest; too close for my liver to handle, especially after some great games yesterday. The real concern should be the injuries. Hopefully they decide to rest Pisa and a few other guys rather than risk losing them for the season to clinch a division that’s going to be theirs almost no matter what.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
and by "our" concern, I mean "your" concern...
damn hangover!!!!!!!
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
I wrote a song in honor of your hangover.
Enjoy(may not be safe for work)
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
Unless there's snow on the field
It won’t be a “slow” surface. It may not be grippy like in good weather, but WRs should still be able to make effective cuts.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
They say 6-8 inches tonight
The field conditions are a bloody repeat of last week. Let’s hope they learned from it.
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
by GriggsBriggs on Dec 20, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Well the good news is the Pats won't be on the other sideline.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
I wonder if turf and snow is worse or better than natural grass and snow?
Hmm…
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Check out this webcam in MN...
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
The field turf at TCF stadium should prove a fast if very hard surface.
How is it logical to want slower players because half of your games are played on a natural surface rather than an artificial one? Speed rules in the NFL. Take the Jets corners Revis and Cromartie both have 40 times of 4.38 speed is a big factor in their ability to play man coverage and be called shut down corners. 10 years ago Urlacher could run a 4.49 40 now at 4.59 he is said to have lost a step but still fast enough to play MLB in a Tampa 2. Charles Tillman came into the league running a 4.49 40 good speed for a safety but slow for a CB since then he has lost a step and is just not fast enough to play man coverage and if he jams the WR at the line stands a good chance of getting burned badly. Tim Jennings runs a 4.36 40 and the only knock against him as a corner is his 5’8" height. A natural surface when slippery favors the offense since they know where they are going speed can help cancel out that advantage to some extent.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
by ed_brown on Dec 20, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
well it would be fast without 6" of snow on it looks like this game will come down to who wants it more.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
8 in the box and let Joe webb try and win the game
Bears 24 – 10. Vikings will have a tough time scoring. Did everyone forget the Viking GMen game from last week and how the Vikes looked on Offense?? Yuch….
"Better lucky than Good", but we are good! We really are..
I'm thinking AP leaves more than on ball on the turf.
Turnovers will decide this game. Pure and simple. The first team to score will be in command.
I agree
I chose *Other because I also think that turnovers will decide this game.
Vikes would appear to be the more 1 dimensional team going into this, so as long as our D doesn’t get worn out from being on the field too long we should be able to limit AP to 60-80 yards.
Offense. They need to put points up quickly.
Then play kill-the-clock. The defense should be able to to slow AP seeing as the focus me the game. It wouldn’t be a suprise if Minnesota tries some reverses or wildcat plays of some sort. As for Joe Webb, his legs should be more of a concern than his arm.
I don't remember Space Mountain being so nauseating.
by ifuwannacrownem on Dec 20, 2010 9:17 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Accu Weather says...
21 degrees with wind chill will feel like 2 degrees, expects snow up to 6 inches. I’m really not excited about this game anymore…..
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
Add in
heavy snow expected until at least half time and after last week its like expecting the worse…..
I want history to erase his every achievement.....I want him to feel the disgust in the bronco fans eyes when they look on him in shame....
- Jay Cutler on josh mcdaniels firing
by CloudyFuture on Dec 20, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
The Bears running game matter most
AP will get his, but it doesn’t guarantee a Vikes victory if he gets 100 yards and TD. Keeping the pressure off of the turnover machine by running effectively will win the game. Turnovers, as always, will dictate the outcome of the game. Webb will be good for one or two, and hopefully Cutler can limit his to one or less.
Go Bears!
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
I voted "other"...
The thing that worries me most is the Bear players comments about the field and weather conditions. I don’t agree with the NFL either but the decision has been made and that’s where you’re playing. I get the sick feeling that they are going to let that get into their heads too much. Interviews after last week’s game against the Patriots in the blizzard lead me to thing they let the conditions get too them much more than their opponents did.
I’ve always questioned the mental toughness of these Lovie Smith coached teams, so the “other” factor is the thing that concerns me more than the Vikings. Going against another 3rd string QB and against a team who is having a down year with nothing but pride to play for, should allow the Bears to put up a 10 point or more win but if they lose, that says a lot about their toughness and preparedness for a huge game. I hope they finally realize you can’t keep relying on help from other teams.
What station
is showing the game locally? I don’t have the blessing/curse of cable.
So, if it’s supposed to be snowing all afternoon/night, how are they going to keep this field clear without heaters? Look how piled up Soldier Field got, and they have under-field heat.
So do you like being Amish?
And how far is the walk/buggy ride to use a computer? :)
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Very impressive.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Lol
They tend to have sucky resolution!
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Found on the internet
I read this quote today in a commentary thread about Tim Tebow on PFT
Orton is a decent QB. Id take him in Buffalo if we didn’t have the Fitz. Type of QB you could build a defense around.
Type of QB you could build a defense around…. BWAAAAAHAAAAHAAA. I’ve never heard that before in my life. Hilarious.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Ya I saw that
and I was like WTF…..
Big debate at the denver forums about who should start and who has a better chance of guiding their teams to wins…..Reminds me of the big orton vs grossman debates of yester year…..
I want history to erase his every achievement.....I want him to feel the disgust in the bronco fans eyes when they look on him in shame....
- Jay Cutler on josh mcdaniels firing
by CloudyFuture on Dec 20, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
The sad thing about all this is,
Orton will be a Viking next year…. I feel bad for that guy I might have to send him a bottle of Jack.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
maybe it'll be McNabb in Minn next year
I would hate to see Peppers & Izzy cripple Orton.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
McNabb is going to be the next Titans QB.
I could be wrong.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Thought mcnabb
will be a viking next year…..
orton got an 9 mill extension so cant see anyone taking a trade with denver to take on ortons 9 mill for the year IF there is football next season….
I want history to erase his every achievement.....I want him to feel the disgust in the bronco fans eyes when they look on him in shame....
- Jay Cutler on josh mcdaniels firing
by CloudyFuture on Dec 20, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
I see Orton staying put, but I think we're only a year
or injury away from the Timmy show.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Wow, now I know why Orton didn´t go great at Chitown..
We did all wrong, we didnt build a Defense around him..
"We didn't play our best game, and we won. That's got to be a good sign.'' - Jay Cutler
by Claudio Oliveira on Dec 20, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
This game doesn't worry me so much.
First of all the division could be won with this game, It’s a division rival and the Vikes are 0-5 the last 5 seasons when the temp gets below 40 degrees.
Just because they played outdoors 30 years ago doesn’t equate to them being able to do it now. They have been sissified.
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
Don't forget, the Bears were the team that Tampa Bay beat when they had never, in their history, won a game
played when it was less than 40 degress…..just saying.
I also believe that the Bears finished 4-12 that season and the Bucs won the Superbowl!
The were also playing in Champaign and starting whichever god awful QB @ that time. The Bucs would have to have been the worst team in football that game to lose.
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
No argument there, I'm just saying
the Bears have a way of letting teams break these stupid kind of losing streak records against them. Like if Calvin Johnson had not been showing off in the first week of the season, they would have been the first road victory for the Lions in a thousand years, luckily, the aforementioned Tampa Bay Buccaneers claimed that prize yesterday.
No Bears Turnovers = Bears Win
Please Jay don’t throw a pick 6 or any pick for that matter. And nobody fumble, OK? Pretty please, with sugar on top.
Gaak you need some face time with DITKA !!
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
maybe DITKA and HALAS
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Virginia?
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
Eeeeww!
Youve just turned me off to any sex tonight (even if the Bears win) with that TMI post. My wife is gonna hate me later.
Lol. At least I didn't say Andrea Kramer.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Nooooo.... the ghost of championships past
but giving him the choice between a “good attitude” and kissing Virginia could work.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
my bad
back in the day, face time meant talking to someone.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
It still means that, he just has a dirty mind.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Sure you are... :)
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Oh.... No....
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
For the Vikes to win they have to beat us with their ground game.
Contain Peterson and you contain the Vikes. A balanced attack on our part should make for an easy victory.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
I Think the Most important is..
.. to keep Cutler on his feet!
It will be a good game, I already put the beers on the fridge, brought some snacks and we are ready for the Bears beig 2010 NFC North Champs tonight!
Me & My Nephew:
by Claudio Oliveira on Dec 20, 2010 10:49 AM CST reply actions
Now that is dedication
like he nephews hair. Also….
I already put the beers on the fridge
Put them in the fridge they stay colder. :) BEAR DOWN!!!!
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
my bad..
I mean INSIDE the fridge.. lol
by Claudio Oliveira on Dec 20, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
I just didn't want you to have warm beer.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
hey, it is 77ºF here..
if I put the beer ON the fridge, it would be more than warm.. (I need to improve my english.. ) lol
by Claudio Oliveira on Dec 20, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
Nah I like your english don't change for anyone.
And stop braggin about the warm weather. :)
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
WoW
your new nephew is huge…..
I kid I kid…..
I want history to erase his every achievement.....I want him to feel the disgust in the bronco fans eyes when they look on him in shame....
- Jay Cutler on josh mcdaniels firing
by CloudyFuture on Dec 20, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
yeah..
“My Nephew” Is about 6’0 and 309 pounds.. besides learning where to put the beer I need to loose some weight, too.. lol
by Claudio Oliveira on Dec 20, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Can he play O line?
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
Sure!
I Actually played right Guard to the Steamrollers.
by Claudio Oliveira on Dec 20, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
holy cow!!
The Bears fans are really big fellas.. LMAO
"We didn't play our best game, and we won. That's got to be a good sign.'' - Jay Cutler
by Claudio Oliveira on Dec 20, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
I've never seen a fanbase happier about a loss
than the Packers, just based on those fans on my facebook, you’d think they’d won the division last night.
I know you're curious Joseph, you're at that age, and you often forget to delete your internet history.
peterson
only played the first half of last weeks game IIRC…..gerhart got all the carries in the second half…..
I want history to erase his every achievement.....I want him to feel the disgust in the bronco fans eyes when they look on him in shame....
- Jay Cutler on josh mcdaniels firing
by CloudyFuture on Dec 20, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
This field...
going to negate our team speed. We really need to maintain our gap assignments and keep Webb from scrambliong too much. Our offense is needs to play smart and efficient and keep on running the ball. We need to lock up the division tonight and set our sights on home field advantage.
Stop Peterson, force Webb to throw the ball.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I dont know how, but..
According to ESPN there´s a chance we see Favre intead of Webb playing tonight.. Favre is like Mun-ha.. imortal..
"We didn't play our best game, and we won. That's got to be a good sign.'' - Jay Cutler
by Claudio Oliveira on Dec 20, 2010 12:52 PM CST reply actions
I would love to paste his ass to the turf one more time
let him play..
"Better lucky than Good", but we are good! We really are..
Listening to Jaws talk about him right now.
He’s to throw 2 hours prior to see if he can go, I say play him so Pep can take a shot at him or anybody for that matter.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
What is that picture, Mumra from Thunder Cats!
I loved that show when I was growing up.
thunderbears! hooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
"We didn't play our best game, and we won. That's got to be a good sign.'' - Jay Cutler
by Claudio Oliveira on Dec 20, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
Well said my friend.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 20, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Steve Hutchinson out for the Season..
Did Lovie Smith sell his soul to Pete Rozelle? I’m kinda giddy about this game. Snow and bitter cold. A wide-open door for the bears D. Probably our last chance to beat Brett Favre. MNF, which means showtime for peppers and urlacher. This is why I watch NFL football. Bears 44-7!
by DisCUBbobulated on Dec 20, 2010 3:35 PM CST reply actions
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