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Jay Cutler only needs offensive stability to reach the next level

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Quick...  off the top of your head, name the best quarterbacks in the NFL today?  If you're like me the top two are easily Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.  Then there'll be a handful of players in the next group: Drew Brees for sure, maybe Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, and some might put Aaron Rodgers in with the best playing today.  Those guys are all playing at a high level, but what do they all have in common? 

They've all been running the same offense for some time now, and that stability is all that's holding Jay Cutler back in his development from becoming a top tier quarterback.  Cutler currently ranks 13th in QB rating and all 12 guys ahead of him have been calling plays in the same system for more than the lone season Cutler has.  In fact, of the top 20 rated quarterbacks in the NFL today, only nineteenth ranked Jason Campbell (besides the aforementioned Cutler) is in his initial year with his offense.  I'll never understand why this fact isn't brought up more when the talking heads criticize Jay. 

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If Mike Martz and his system is still around in 2011, Jay Cutler will be mentioned with those top QBs.  In his Pro Bowl year with the Broncos, it was his 3rd year in the pro ranks, and his 3rd year in the same Mike Shanahan system.  Then he was traded to Chicago and he had to learn the Ron Turner version of the West Coast offense, and this year he gets in the Martzfense.  Three years, and essentially three different languages to learn.  Each playcaller has his own language, when one coordinator calls a "Split right slot Zoom Liz 989 F Rub Sneak" that may not be what another calls it.  Formations may be color coded, given animal names, or countless other options.  A "slot" to some may be a "wing over" to others.  A "zoom" motion might be "zip" motion in another system.  Some offenses have different route trees for the split receivers and for the slot receivers.  Some offenses have different protection calls, different rules for the backfield, different sight reads...  different being the key word here.  Give Jay Cutler another year, and his familiarity will eventually get to the point where he's reacting instead of thinking.

Now to some Cutler stuff I just want to vent on for a bit.  The color analysts often praise his ability to make plays with his feet and strong arm, then in the same broadcast, crack on him for having poor fundamentals.  Can they really have it both ways?  I can't stand when they talk out of both sides of their mouths, and the studio guys are no better.  They'll spend all pregame ripping his bad mechanics, then all post game marveling at his ability to make strong armed throws without setting his feet.

It seems that the result of the play is what determines whether Cutler is bashed or lauded.  Jay delivers a perfect strike off his back foot for a TD and we hear how strong an arm Cutler has.  He throws the same pass, but it's picked, and we have to sit through a 'poor fundamental' lecture.

Here's a newsflash; Not every pass is thrown in the NFL using proper footwork.  In a perfect world, an offensive line will make a perfect pocket for a QB to step up and throw from, but those instances are few and far between.  I don't care how the ball gets there as long as it gets there.  Just last night I watched Drew Brees throw off his back foot, throw flat footed, and flip the ball towards his intended target.  Some worked out well, and some bad.  Monday Night Football analyst Steve Young had this to say, 

"He had a couple of boneheaded things that he knows he did wrong, that would have cost most teams the Division, the playoffs, everything else.  But he rallied to the issue at hand like maybe two or three guys in the world can do.  And that's why the New Orleans Saints won a championship last year."

Which points to the lack of team success that Cutler has had thus far in his career.  He finally got the playoff monkey off his back, but if he's one and done come playoff time, many of the experts will just assume they're right about him and continue their current critical stance.  I seem to remember Peyton Manning getting blasted for his lack of playoff success, then for his inability to win a title.  Cutler will have the knock on him about his sometimes reckless play until he can stack together a few winning seasons and find some playoff success, and maybe he'll hear it until his team wins a Super Bowl.

I don't mind Cutler trying to force throws on occasion, because it's that supreme confidence in his arm that allows him to make the 'did you see that' type of plays.  The one area I'd like to see him improve on is having a better feel for throwing the ball away when outside the pocket.  He's had a number of sacks this year that could have been avoided had he simply chucked the ball in the dirt.   Jay Cutler has arguably the strongest arm in the NFL, and yes, his strong arm has led to him making poor decisions from time to time, but his arm, his mobility, and his football IQ, tells me that the only missing piece to his attaining the next level is that offensive continuity.

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Nice write-up Lester.

Continuity on offense, especially the offensive line, will go a long way toward making the Bears an elite team. They’re all coming together now, at just the right time too.

by Mike Mueller on Dec 28, 2010 11:18 AM CST reply actions  

Agree

Probably the best article about Cutler written all year. You nailed it with every point! Now let’s just hope the players and owners can come to an agreement so that Cutler has a chance for continuity.

by Stellarpete22 on Dec 28, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice post.

Gotta agree. Wasn’t big on the Martz signing in the off-season, but I’m sold for the most part. Even if we are one and done in the playoffs I want to at least see Martz retained. I think with 1-2 new offensive linemen and another year in the system Cutler, Forte, Knox and Olsen can flourish in this system next year.

WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!

by Acreman20 on Dec 28, 2010 11:34 AM CST reply actions  

Acreman20

you can change your quote now—we won the NFC North so, now we don’t need to worry about the wildcard.

by Stellarpete22 on Dec 28, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL

It’s actually a quote from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. But I think it is about time for a new one.

WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!

by Acreman20 on Dec 28, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

That episode

was absolutely hilarious though.

“Why are the brakes not working”

“Cause I cut the brakes. Wildcard bitches….. yeeeeeehawww!”

Bears. Bulls. White Sox.

by The Voiss on Dec 28, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

That episode and the “Pepe’ Sylvia” episodes are probably my favorites.

WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!

by Acreman20 on Dec 28, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm a fan of "the gang gets invincible."

Tripping, tryouts with the Eagles, Dennis running like a gazelle, and of course green man.

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Dec 28, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Good episode.

This past season kind of disappointed me. The only episode I really laughing non-stop was “Charlie: King of the Rats.”

WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!

by Acreman20 on Dec 28, 2010 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

My fiance and I

thought the last three episodes this year were the best of the season. “The gang gets stranded in the woods” was a riot.

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Dec 28, 2010 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah I enjoyed that one myself.

I liked how they tied Kaitlin Olson’s pregnancy in there as well. It’s one of the few shows I actually make time to watch the night it comes on. Community and Sons of Anarchy are the other two. The rest I just catch online most of the time.

WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!

by Acreman20 on Dec 28, 2010 11:36 PM CST up reply actions  

that was a good one...

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 29, 2010 8:26 AM CST up reply actions  

We have to let him interview for Head Coaching jobs

after we win the SuperBowl, hopefully he decides to stay.

by DaHamsta on Dec 28, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

nice

three things

drew brees. bad ass mofo. not just qb but a football player.

all the guys lester listed are already the leaders of their teams.right now our biggest leaders are on the defense side.

jay q will be = as bad a mofo, but id like jay to take a step toward being the leader of this team starting this sunday.

Lou Brown: I'm not much for giving inspirational addresses, but I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves. Me, I'm for wasting sportswriters' time. So I figured we ought to hang around for a while and see if we can give 'em all a nice big shitburger to eat!

by LightsOutVegas on Dec 28, 2010 11:39 AM CST reply actions  

Awesome blog entry!

Very informative & enthralling.

As for the idiocy of the commentators… One “oh shit” always takes away ten “that-a boy”

"There are going to be days when you think you've got no more to give and then you're going to give plenty more. You are going to have pride and class. You are going to be very special. You are going to win the national championship for the University of Alabama." - Coach Paul Bear Bryant

by crowAMO on Dec 28, 2010 11:47 AM CST reply actions  

To me, if Jay Cutler has helped us win the division with his "mechanics" then let him be

Most of the talking heads that criticise Cutler are old hasbeens/wannabes that never had half the potential Cutler has. “Good Fundementals” only get one so far. Dug up a little nugget that will help prove my point.

Outstanding footwork, mastered all the basic fundementals, and all this coupled with a great arm. Best QB prospect to ever head to the pros

                                                                                                    - Scouting Report on Ryan Leaf

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 28, 2010 11:51 AM CST reply actions  

Joe Namath

had more losses than wins in his career, more INT’s than TD’s and he is a Hall of Famer. Kind of weird how the media hates Cutler so much. Cutler will shut them up soon!

by Stellarpete22 on Dec 28, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunately

My belief is Namath was elected to the Hall of Fame because he accurately predicted his team to win when they were huge underdogs in the Superbowl.

Bears. Bulls. White Sox.

by The Voiss on Dec 28, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

the pasing game in the NFL was different back then

Terry Bradshaw was a 51.9% passer for his career, Johnny Unitas completed 54.6% of his passes… The dink and dunk high percentage throws wasn’t in the game plan back then, couple that with with DBs were able to do

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Broadway Joe got in not just because of Super Bowl 3

But also because of the way he dressed, acted, and of all this because of his performances on broadway and in hollywood

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 28, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

a real class act that guy

I know you're curious Joseph, you're at that age, and you often forget to delete your internet history.

by jimribs on Dec 28, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

haha!

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey if getting a little drunk and wanting to kiss Suzy Kolber is a crime...

Then lock me up…
  
Just make sure I have TV time so I can watch the Bears beat the Packers(and Badgers beat TCU…god this will be a great weekend of football)!!!

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Dec 28, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

im not a fan of TCU, Boise St. n them.

I want Wisconsin (mind everyone I love Illinois) and mudstomp them other than that GO BEARS

by chiguy8506 on Dec 28, 2010 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Wacth the way Wisconsin runs the ball

it’s a thing of beauty

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

They have a ton of talented players

Could become another bigtime pool of players the Bears should look at

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 28, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Carimi and Watt specifically!!!

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Dec 28, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes he is...

and he would look great in Navy and Orange!!!

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Dec 28, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

He played LT for the Badgers...but

Most of the Draft projections say he is probably a better fit at RT in the NFL…

I personally would like to see him at RG or RT to help make some holes for Forte…but I could see him slipping into the LG slot that CW has been holding down this year…but that would mean that Williams would have to be moved again or outright released…and I know JA and Lovie wouldn’t want to do that…

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Dec 28, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

At 6' 7" - 327#

He would be a “huge” asset at either guard position.

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Dec 28, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

nice article wilt, but nothing we didn't already know

granted there were some here at WCG earlier in the year that put the blame squarely on Cutler and ignored other factors.
it bears repeating that the enhanced play of the offensive line has been huge too – giving Cutler time…
stability is always good

GO BEARS!

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Dec 28, 2010 11:56 AM CST reply actions  

nothing we didn't already know...
it bears repeating that the enhanced play of the offensive line has been huge too – giving Cutler time…
stability is always good

but it bears repeating…

;)

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

one question

Who we gonna play in the playoffs?

by chiguy8506 on Dec 28, 2010 11:59 AM CST reply actions  

packers if we lose.

way too hard to determine if not. Potential second rounders could be:PHI,NO,ATL, STL,SEA, NYG and a remote possibility of TB.

I know you're curious Joseph, you're at that age, and you often forget to delete your internet history.

by jimribs on Dec 28, 2010 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Just Crush the Pack once, Please.

One time is all that is required. This Sunday is as good as time as any.

If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Dec 28, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

magic eight ball says

not enough information, ask again later

Lou Brown: I'm not much for giving inspirational addresses, but I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves. Me, I'm for wasting sportswriters' time. So I figured we ought to hang around for a while and see if we can give 'em all a nice big shitburger to eat!

by LightsOutVegas on Dec 28, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

This should be green fellas, get to work. Nicely done SJS.

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Dec 28, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

we'll win *knock on wood* but what if

philly loses to dallas and we lose (which we wont knock on wood once again) we’d still #2 right?

by chiguy8506 on Dec 28, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

If we are tied with Philly we get the 2.

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Dec 28, 2010 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

It All Comes Down To

winning a superbowl, once Jay does that all his critics will be silenced- look at Eli Manning, who is a mediocre QB at best but people rarely say anything bad about him now- why? Because he won a SB. I really don’t think there is any other way his critics can be silenced.

by Gaak on Dec 28, 2010 12:06 PM CST reply actions  

I think he is a leader now...

…in as much as he’s that guy on the team who just doesn’t like to lose. During the Jets game, Cutler looked every bit the leader with that subtle shoulder shrug after the Jets TD (which he promptly followed with a laser beam TD of his own). The way he rips the chin straps off after a TD, the confidence, the swagger, I think he’s every bit the leader he’s ever going to be. Will he be an rah-rah type leader? Probably never, but, there is something to be said for that arrogance that so many hold against him. I don’t think a team leader has to be the Drew Brees model, sometimes they can be a Jordan, exuding confidence and demanding the best from teamates, thats more of Jay’s style.

"Smells like burning hair and week-old Arby’s." - the stench of Steve Finley

by BBANGUS on Dec 28, 2010 12:28 PM CST reply actions  

he is starting to

come into his own. i noticed the shrug you brought up. i also noticed some other things in the past not so positive. i’ll just say i like where hes going

Lou Brown: I'm not much for giving inspirational addresses, but I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves. Me, I'm for wasting sportswriters' time. So I figured we ought to hang around for a while and see if we can give 'em all a nice big shitburger to eat!

by LightsOutVegas on Dec 28, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

He now has his swag back

And we all now that when he has his swag, he plays at an all-pro/MVP level.

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 28, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

What was "not so positive"?

"Smells like burning hair and week-old Arby’s." - the stench of Steve Finley

by BBANGUS on Dec 28, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, he doesn't have a ridiculous celebration dance

like ol’ blue-eyes Rodgers up north. And we all know that’s what makes a leader ;)

by NorthSideBearsFan on Dec 28, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Rodgers took that

From Freddie Mitchell

I remember him doing that everytime he gets to the endzone…whenever he does.

(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...

by T.Moore on Dec 28, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

It's no Drew Stanton Dougie....

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Dec 28, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

True dat

I just like how when Jay scores a touchdown he just pumps his fists, high-fives his teammates, and goes back to the bench. No breakdancing, no hip-thrusts, no trash-talking (except to the refs and Brandon Marshall) – all business

by NorthSideBearsFan on Dec 28, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind seeing Jay channel his inner Turbo or Ozone.

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Dec 28, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Is that the 1st Breakin' reference in WCG history?

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know, but if it is do I get a prize????

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

a fresh piece of cardboard to back spin on

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 29, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Just when I thought Christmas was over....

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

honestly, the only thing i didn't like from Sunday

Was when he threw his arms up after Robbie’s miss FG. For one, it’s not like Robbie misses inside the 40 often, that was his first miss in over 60 attempts from inside the 40. I am not saying he shouldn’t be upset with a miss FG that could of put them 7 points ahead, especially after the offense has worked so hard to put up the points, but i just think that lil hand toss was kinda tacky.

by Chitownproduct on Dec 28, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed it was a little tacky...

"There are going to be days when you think you've got no more to give and then you're going to give plenty more. You are going to have pride and class. You are going to be very special. You are going to win the national championship for the University of Alabama." - Coach Paul Bear Bryant

by crowAMO on Dec 28, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe he should have gone all Tom Brady on him

and yelled in his face… Then he’d be a vocal leader.

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah, he shooda gave Robbie a hug.

If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Dec 28, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

It's a double-standard

Cutler will always be viewed as a “gun-slinger,” but until he wins a SB or comes close, he’ll be lauded and scorned in the same breath. It’s the nature of the beast- Dilfer and Hasselbeck are just insanely jealous cause he has the natural ability that they never had.

He can put a lot to rest if the Bears go deep in the playoffs. Analysts everwhere can make all the excuses they want, but if they win no one will listen to their incoherent rants.

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Dec 28, 2010 12:32 PM CST reply actions  

Good write up

I just want to add a couple things.

1) Re: Continuity and learning new offense. I agree with everything you said and I just want to add that it’s not just about learning the language and the play calling. It’s knowing where every single receiver is supposed to be and WHEN on every single pass play. When he gets to the line of scrimmage, and all of the presnap motion is done, Jay is expected to look at the defense and figure out based on what he sees, who the ball should go to. Add to this that most of Martzfense is built around timing, and it becomes especially difficult. Making matters even worse, many times the play called is supposed to go to a certain receiver, regardless of what the defense is showing at the line of scrimmage. IE, This play is designed to draw the safety to the short side giving one on one coverage to the slot, who should be at X spot in exactly 2.5 seconds. This is extremely difficult and it only gets easier with experience. He has not be given enough credit this year, that’s for sure. Especially playing behind this O line early on.

2) Re: Not getting enough credit. Unfortunately for Jay, he’s playing against a stacked deck. The Chicago Bears have a long history of the QB position not working out. Kind of like the stigma that bad teams are perennially bad so getting over the hump becomes an even more arduous task. The same old same old Lions team etc. So it is with Jay. The quarterbacks who have preceded his arrival have paved the way for his failure. At least in his critics eyes. So, they aren’t as generous when passing judgement. Cutler threw a pick 6… well it’s obviously his bad mechanics combined with 58 years of poor quarterback play. Drew Brees makes a bone headed play and he’s just trying to make something happen. As a Bears fan, these so called experts can be infuriating.

All I know is, I’m a believer. I think Jay Cutler is absolutely the real deal and will only get better with time. Time and an offensive line. The future’s so bright I gotta where shades. B)

Great write up, Lester.

by Skags on Dec 28, 2010 12:59 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Agreed...

I like Jay for what he does, but at times he frustates me all the same. However, put the right pieces in place, ie. O-line & #1 WR and we have a winner. Currently, Jay is doing what Da Bears need to win.

I think the assistant coaches have moved ahead leaps and bounds from what Lovie had in the past. Plus, the players buy into their techniques & schemes. Mike Marts has & will continue to help Jay.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Dec 28, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Martz has always wanted to coach Jay Cutler

And now he has his chance. I truly believe Martz will make Jay Cutler into perhaps the next great QB.

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 28, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Great write up yourself

I just hope Martz & Tice stick around beyond this season.

(crossing fingers)

by rdent4hof on Dec 29, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Good Call Bears Fans

I’m still a Cutler fan in Bronco land, and I’m in complete agreement that he needs good coaching and stability and he’ll be a top QB.
I don’t know about Martz – he’s a bit of a QB killer (see, the middle of Kurt Warner’s career, and the # of sacks his QB takes each year of his coaching career – yikes!) but he runs a great offense. He could make Cutler a really good QB. I thought he was the guy when Shanny moved up to draft him – wish he still was (though I’m glad to have Tebow). I hope he has success in Chitown.
Good luck to you all!

by Summitgrad on Dec 28, 2010 1:04 PM CST reply actions  

You talk about Martz as a QB Killah

but don’t forget we’ve got Tice on the O-line. If we keep these two coaches together, I foresee a long period of bears offensive excellence.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take -Wayne Gretzky" -Michael Scott

by MN Bearsfan on Dec 28, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the cordial post, but...
I don’t know about Martz – he’s a bit of a QB killer (see, the middle of Kurt Warner’s career, and the # of sacks his QB takes each year of his coaching career – yikes!)

Would we even know who Kurt Warner is, if it wasn’t for Martz?

by rdent4hof on Dec 29, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Great Write Up and I agree w/ the criticism

I was remarking last night when during MNF they put up the graphic that Brees has the second most INTs in the league this year (behind Manning) and yet those two are noted as being great (in Brees’s case) or “really good” (in E. Manning’s case) yet Cutler is always called a “turnover machine” and “erratic” but since the former have rings the INTs get overlooked. It’s ridiculous!

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Dec 28, 2010 1:20 PM CST reply actions  

As much as I want the giants to win that game.

Manning was the luckest QB to ever win a SB.

(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...

by T.Moore on Dec 28, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Dilfer and Johnson would like a word...

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Dec 28, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah Johnson I think actually did something (maybe one thing) but something...

Dilfer just sat there and let the D and Jamal Lewis and Priest Holmes to the work. What Dilfer did isn’t luck cause he didn’t do anything to qualify luck.

What I mean by lucky I mean the whole him escaping and throwing the flukest pass followed by the flukest catch of all time.

(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...

by T.Moore on Dec 28, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

You forgot to mention

All five of the Giants o-line committed holding penalties.

Oh I get it now, the move of the line judge to behind the qb was not to make Peyton mad, but to protect Boy-wonder from losing another Sb (note: I’m a Tom Brady fan but he is the luckiest Qb ever).

Bears. Bulls. White Sox.

by The Voiss on Dec 28, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with your entire write up, well done.

The only comment is regarding Jay’s mechanics. You’re right about the analysts talking out of both sides of their mouths, but there is some credence to it. It hasn’t been as much a factor the last few games but last season and earlier this year, there were times when Jay showed poor mechanics even when he wasn’t pressured. That kind of thing will come back to bite him if he continues.

As I said, I haven’t noticed it as much the last 3-4 games and, hopefully, the light has come on for him. Think back to when Elway first came out of school, he did many of the same things but as he matured and his pure physical ability deteriorated a little, he worked on his mechanics and that’s when the Super Bowls and championships started coming.

I’m not saying Jay is Elway, yet, but I also don’t see any reason he couldn’t be in that category if he puts the time and effort in.

by BearFan611 on Dec 28, 2010 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

his footwork is gatting better

and I think a lot of him throwing before getting set comes from him being a bit gun shy with all the sacks he took

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed and, as you pointed out, lack of familiarity with the system

probably caused him to react before he needed to as well. I am really enjoying watching him play the last half of the season, he is a special talent. The thing that might be the defining moment for his career with the Bears might have been last week in Minnesota. I felt that he let the conditions get to him against the Pats but he realized his mistakes and went out in weather that was almost as bad against the Vikings and played an excellent game.

A lot of people, and I’ll include myself in this group, weren’t sure if he had the maturity to bounce back after the New England game but he proved to me that he understands the opportunity in front of him and I’m looking forward to seeing how far he can take this team.

by BearFan611 on Dec 28, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm becoming a HUGE Cutler fan.

I’ve waited on getting his jersey just to see how he turns out. If he keeps this level of play up, a throwback #6 will be ordered here very soon.

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by Acreman20 on Dec 28, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Throwback Cutler

like from 2009?

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL nooooo.....

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by Acreman20 on Dec 28, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I figured

lol

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I love the vertical stripe throwbacks...

I know a lot of people don’t, but I would kill for one.

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

If you get one with the vertical stripes,

it must be an Erik Kramer.

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by Ditkavsworld on Dec 28, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Hell no....

It will say Either Nagurski or Halas.

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Sissy.

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Blasphemer!

Nobody who would brandish a Nagurski or a Halas before a Kramer could be a sissy! Now back to the dungeon with you. We’ll bring you back up Sunday all slobbery, twitchy and ready for the Bear/Packers game!

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 30, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't decide between a Peppers and Hester throwback

Nagurski would be nice as well….helmet tip to T-train.

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Dec 28, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm probably going for throwback Hester

As beastly as Peppers was in the game against the Pack, this is the game that Hester announced he was back

Bears. Bulls. White Sox.

by The Voiss on Dec 28, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't go wrong with either one

They’re both beasts!

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Dec 28, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I have a Nagurski!

I got it for Xmas and GG got a Luckman one. My mother is amazing. Haha

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by Ashley Czuba on Dec 28, 2010 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice addition to the collection

Either way it’s going to be a tough decision!

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Dec 28, 2010 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Lucky!

WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!

by Acreman20 on Dec 28, 2010 11:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Try reducing the Old Style intake.

If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Dec 28, 2010 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Biggest question outside of the CBA ...
If Mike Martz and his system is still around in 2011

I’d like to see all these coaches stay (never thought I’d say that … maybe Babich can split), especially Toub and Martz … hell, Tice too. I think this team needs continuity, especially on offense. If Martz sticks around and doesn’t get offered a head coaching gig (def. know SF is out of the question, but Denver?) then I think Cutler absolutely becomes one of the league’s elite.

Sure his mechanics suck, but that’s what makes him great. I don’t often agree with Gruden, but Cutler does seem to like the challenge this offense gives him, which is why I think he will work to master it if given the opportunity. He’s definitely making better decisions and being protective of the ball … if he can harness the idea of fitting every throw into a tight space, he’ll be great.

by junkhorse on Dec 28, 2010 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

Martz doesn't want to coach anywhere else but Chicago

Although he said that “It would be nice” he is content with staying in Chicago and with Cutler

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 28, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Martz won't get a Head Coaching offer this offseason

League wide he’s still viewed as a little crazy… He’ll need a few years of good behavior and offensive success before another team takes a chance on him.

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

The other problem with Mike Martz is...

There really aren’t “Martz” disciples to take his mantle when he retires, the Coryell offense isn’t hugely popular, and his specific flavor even less so.

I really hopes he stays here long enough to mentor a couple of people to take his place.

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by Jacob Hayes on Dec 28, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Shane Day?

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

This↑

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Jaja...

However, if for instance he “turns” Cutler into a perennial pro-bowler he may end up a top target for a HC position himself. QB coaches have been given a lot more of a look as head coaches lately. I’ve got my fingers crossed that McDaniels killed that one.

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by Jacob Hayes on Dec 28, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't see Babich going w/ the way the linebackers have played.

Though I wouldn’t mind seeing him let go for a recently fired HC in San Fran.

WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!

by Acreman20 on Dec 28, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Babich sucked.....

as the DC/puppet, but I would place my money on him as the best LB coach in the NFL.

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!

by Acreman20 on Dec 28, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

linebackers

Would love to see Samurai back here too, but he interviewed for the LB job here in 02 or 03 (on Jauron’s staff) and he wasn’t hired. Would be great to at least have him back in the organization, even if it isn’t as a coach.

by walterfan34 on Dec 28, 2010 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

He really is an insperational figure

And his fire and passion would be awsome to see. Urlacher and the whole LB core would only benifit from a HOF LB teaching them. Look what he did to Patrick Willis.

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 28, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice write-up, Les.....

I have been saying the exact same things across the treads of months. I agree with it all. Rec’d

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2010 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

Toot toot.

What’s that? The sound of you blowing your own horn.

:)

by Steven Schweickert on Dec 28, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Cryptic....
across the treads of months

Ponderous……

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Dec 28, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

He must be playing WOW while trying to post the longest comments ever

on WCG at the same time. Or it’s a Lord of the ring thing

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- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Dec 28, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate that soul-sucking, mind-numbing game......

I prefer several other soul-sucking, mind-numbing games ;)

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

This would be true to the Nth power.....

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 30, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

If we can shore up the O-line also...

That would be huge for Cutler. I watched the MNF game and it just blows my mind how good some of these team’s offensive line looks. If we had Atlanta’s offensive line…Matt Forte would average 5.4 yards a carry and Jay would have 5 seconds to throw on like 85% of the snaps. It’s crazy. We need some OL love this draft.

by Chitownproduct on Dec 28, 2010 2:44 PM CST reply actions  

Great Post, Lester.

Probably like a lot of us, I’ve been screaming that at my TV this season. Give it time!!! And the fact that we’ve been able to keep winning despite that inexperience is awesome. Like I said above, if we can keep Martz and Tice around, I think our offense is badass for some time. Would be nice to see in Chicago!

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by MN Bearsfan on Dec 28, 2010 2:48 PM CST reply actions  

Count me as one of the Martz-doubters

who thought Jay wouldn’t last the season in this system (and I thought the Giants game proved me right). But I’ve really been impressed by how well Jay and the offense has come together in the first year of arguably the most difficult offensive system in football.

I’m now a firm Cutler/Martz believer, which is why I feel our pre-draft off-season priority should be ensuring that Martz (and Tice) are here for years to come. Then we’ll see Cutler become the QB we’ve all waited for him to be.

Nice write-up, Lester!

by NorthSideBearsFan on Dec 28, 2010 2:54 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think Lovie gets enough credit and it hurt a little to say that...

But I really believe in the rumors that Lovie sat Martz down and told him he had to be more balanced. After the bye week this offense started to gel a bit.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
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by Just Dave on Dec 28, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I read that Tice also had a heart to heart with Martz

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Whover said whatever to whomever

(huh? not sure what the heck I just typed!) the bottom line is the coaching staff has adjusted! And adjusted well…and for that, we thank you.

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by lastof12 on Dec 28, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not unreasonable to think

that all three made adjustments, and also consulted with each other on what would potentially work for this offense based on its current personnel.

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Dec 28, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Off Topic: The other cool thing to happen in the NFC North this year

If the Eagles beat the Vikings tonight it puts the Vikings at a lowly 5-10 which is coincidentally the same record the Lions have. The Vikings close out their season against the Lions so if the Eagles beat the Vikings tonight and the Lions continue to play well and beat the Vikings next Sunday, the Vikings will have sole occupancy in the cellar in the NFC North at 5-11, with 6-10 for the Lions probably feels good for Detroit. So poor Vikings and Brett Favre in the cellar where they belong, what a way to send this clown out of the league, bravo on a crappy season Mr. Favre.

White Sox fans need not apply.

by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 28, 2010 3:54 PM CST reply actions  

I'd rather the Vikings win tonight

That would lock the Bears into the 2 seed

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 28, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

same here

Can we send them just a few of our players (only for tonight)

by chiguy8506 on Dec 28, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

Other than that, I need Vick to have a horrendous game to win my FF championship.

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by Acreman20 on Dec 28, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

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