The Bears Den: December 4, 2010
by Dane Noble on Dec 4, 2010 7:37 AM CST
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PrintMike Ditka in 1985: "We couldn’t beat a playoff team today. We would have been eliminated."
Cutler warned that next time he is abusive to a referee, he's gonna pay the price.
Legal spat going on with the "Super Bowl Shuffle." C'mon, man.
Dan Pompei provides his insights through a Q/A session at the Trib.
GM Jerry Angelo talks about his past a bit, then focuses on the Lions.
Moon Mullin talks about the Bears DL and how Lovie likes to rotate his players.
Mark Potash says that this year's defense is in better position than the '06 defense.
PFF's updated Pro Bowl Cheat Sheet.
The always thorough Team Report from USA Today.
Kevin Seifert has some interesting tidbits on the NFC North.
Seifert also provides an injury report from yesterday in the NFCN.
The Vikings have several key offensive players that are questionable for their game.
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Late entry to the Den:
Pro Football Focus has it’s updated Pro Bowl Cheat Sheet. This should cause a stir with Bears fans…
Are they serious????
There's no substitute for guts.
-Paul Bear Bryant
by I love football! on Dec 4, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions
WHAT?!?!?!
Not even a mention for Briggs or Urlacher?
I can now conclude...
that PFF is not staffed by people who actually watch football. My guess is they are stats dorks who get real geeked about fantasy football numbers and not much else.
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
or hester for returns???
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
Weaksauce
How is there ZERO mention of Urlacher, Briggs, or Knox…someone please explain how Mario Manningham is having a better year than Knox…he’s ranked 37th in yards, has a worse yards per catch ratio, Knox has the longer pass reception, the only things Mario has better than Knox is 1 more catch and 3 more TD’s…that’s a joke
"Word of advice, don’t join, Bears fans are crazy."--- D-Jackfan10
I have both of them on my fantasy ff team
And right now Knox is .10 points better than Manningham (in our points scheme). But I agree – and Manningham is only getting more play right now because their other major receivers are hurt, I think.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
I think the best way to combat this
Is to just get out and vote for our guys regardless. I don’t think anyone can argue against the season that Urlacher, Briggs and Hester are having!
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Dec 4, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't know
They’re not great, but they’re not awful. I know a lot of the uniform blogs and stuff were championing those over the Bears’ throwbacks, which I heavily disagree with!! The Bears’ throwbacks were 1000 times better than the Acme Packers.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Dec 4, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
I love traditional, old-school uniforms...
always have, always will. As soon as I can afford one, I’ll be getting a Peppers or Hester throwback. A lot of the new-school uniforms make me nautious. Ex. the Jags, Bengals, Seahawks, Ravens, and to a lesser extent the Panthers and Falcons.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
my urlacher throwback
showed up this week, its taking everything in my power not to wear it at all times.
I think I'm gonna splurge
and get me a Steltz throwback.
by Dane Noble on Dec 4, 2010 2:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
do they even make those? =)
jk!!! i dont want to be banned from wcg as well!!!
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 4, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
The more important question is....
Is he still a Bear?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Got my authentic Payton jersey the other day.
BTW, Dane, don’t list that jersey website I told you about last week. They’ve been seized by Homeland Security. haha!
by boondock_saint812 on Dec 4, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
You hear that Ron Bears, now you're putting the whole station in jeopardy.
Funny thing is I was just looking for that site the other day.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
drafting D linemen
I always thought that JA was wasting draft picks on all of those defensive linemen. I hate to say it but maybe they actually knew what they were doing.
6 min
The 1991 New Orleans game, great post-game "people were gettin’ their snot knocked out of them, boy! Great game, this is what it’s all about!’
I love that post-game clip, I so remember that conference. Indeed, epic. Good times.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Though I'm not a huge fan of theirs, yesterday I was listening to Boers and Bernstein when Boers made a great point
He was talking about this might just be one of those years for the Bears because things just seem to keep falling their way. He wasn’t making excuses, in fact just the opposite, saying that often teams that have good years are recipients of some very good breaks that all come at the same time and, if they are a good team, they take advantage of those breaks.
They are going to be playing their second 3rd string QB in 3 weeks, Calvin Johnson’s attempt to celebrate a split second too soon, the bye week came at the perfect time for the health and mental adjustments they had to make, the Eagles two starting CB’s were out of their game, Kyle Vandenbosch might miss this game, and even the Patriots game next week comes at the perfect time. NE will be playing a huge game against a very tough opponent in their own division on Monday night and then have to get on a plane in a short week to fly to Chicago to play the Bears. Apparently there is a stat where over 60% of the MNF teams who have to travel the next week lose their games. Also, since the Bears are an out of conference game that would have the least impact on the Pats playoff hopes, they might not be at their best.
Who knows, maybe this is our year.
Um, yeah, maybe
but I remember 2001-02 was ‘our year’ too because things kept falling our way (the interceptions by Brown in OT for TD’s two weeks in a row), and then we got waxed in the playoff game against the Eagles and McNabb. I heard the same things about ’05 as well, and ’06 with Hester scoring all those return TDs.
Sometime when people (not saying B and B say this, just other analysts) say that about the Bears ‘things falling their way’, I think they’re just saying we’re lucky to be in this position, because they look at our record and some freaky-play highlights and act like we’re lucky to be where we are. Maybe that’s the case again this year, although I’d point, again, to the f’ing Seahawks game and the dreadful Redskins game and say that while things have fallen our way we really could be in even better position than we are.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
I agree, most people call us lucky, and are saying we shouldn't be where we are...
that wasn’t the message I got from them in this particular case, although, admittedly I didn’t have the chance to listen to the entire segment. I just thought it was interesting that, maybe we (Chicago fans) are finally starting to have things fall our way for a change. That doesn’t mean the Bears will win because of it, just that if they do have the talent and the coaches don’t screw it up, maybe we can, not only get to the playoffs but be a force. I’m of the belief that every team that ends up either winning a championship or going deep into the playoffs, in any sport, has to have some luck on their side no matter how good they are. Injuries, officiating, weather, etc. are outside of everyone’s control so if they are playing to your favor, why not embrace them?
I hear ya
gosh I hope so, we deserve a few things to fall our way, indeed after 2008, with all of those fluky losses, anyway.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
I agree with you and Boers...
but I’ll take a step further. The Bears are also making some “luck” of their own by playing aggressively. You and I both know how I feel about Lovie, but this season the players are taking it upon themselves to rise above and win games where they had lost them in the past few seasons. Lastly, i think it becomes a Pygmalion effect where the players have that extra effort because they simply believe they should. Call it contagious success. I am interested to see how the Bears handle the next 2 games. Each one will demonstrate how far the Bears have actually come. First, they should destroy the Lions and show they can beat bad teams convincingly. Next, they can gut out a tough win at home against a SB contender. For the first time since 2006, I have a good amount of confidence in this team. I expect they finish the season at 11-5 (undefeated in the division), but they could surprise me with a win against the Jets or Pats and set themselves up as the #1 or #2 seed in the playoffs. Sometimes it’s nice to be lucky AND good!
I'd prefer not to have Lovie return...Unless we win the SB baby!!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
"I am serious... and don't call me Shirley." Leslie Nielson 1926-2010
I completely agree with you about the next two games.
I think the biggest difference between this year and ’06 is the direction of the team at this point in the year. In ’06 at this time Grossman was a wreck and the defense was struggling through injuries.
This year the offense in improving each week and, as hard as it is to believe, so is the defense. Hopefully we can stay healthy (knock on wood).
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 4, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed....
although I’m a little disappointed in your new “signature”. How about “I’d prefer not to have Lovie return…Unless we win the SB, baby….but I still wouldn’t give him an extension until he can get to the playoffs 2 years in a row!!!”
Might be a little long……..
What's wrong with ...
‘I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley’?!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
BF611
I’m kidding, of course …
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Also agreed.
Players keep maturing as the weeks pass by, confidence grows in ones ability, and that leads to more W’s…
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
Agreed
I just want to fit in….
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Just for the record...I had the first "agree" in this chain. Do I win anything?
You can tell me tomorrow or……..
Agreed.
You won my respect. But I’m sure Dane will get back to us soon…. By the way, our banter is priceless and has been completely wasted on the masses. Too bad….
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
What else can I say but "Agreed"...
I’m guessing there will be a Stephanie from Wisconsin reference during the last week of the regular season as well. She hasn’t been brought up in a long time.
The great ones never go out of style.
I would agree
If I had any clue what you were talking about. Instead I’ll just concur.
by TheotherDane on Dec 5, 2010 12:07 AM CST up reply actions
The players rise above poor coaching on their own? Rubbish!
The players are buying into the moves made by the organization and The Coaching of Lovie Smith and his assistants. Two big moves last year were getting Jay Cutler and bringing in Marinelli. This year exit Alex Brown and Adewale Ogunleye enter J.Peppers and Israel Idonije (survivor of the winner take all competition with Mark Anderson). Exit Al Afalava, Kevin Payne & Nathan Vasher enter Hitman Harris,Major Wright and Tim Jennings. Exit Ron Turner enter Mike Martz. Changes for the better and the players are buying into it and playing like they believe.
For us fans its great, not only has the Defense returned to its 2006 level but we see an offense developing into a unit that can win.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
To be fair
06 really was their year. If not for the epic failure by the offense and the secondary at the absolutely worst moment possible.
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No wonder I hate Miami of Ohio
JA went there!!
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Dec 4, 2010 10:33 AM CST reply actions
06 defense
06 defense as opposed to this years D. weel i always said IMHO that ogunleye was good with miami because taylor was on the other end of the line. he wasnt a great success with the bears. now this D is good with the addition of peppers and the over achieving of idonijey
I think our '05 D was the best of them all
’06 was dominant in the playoffs, I guess, but over the course of a year the ’05 D was a bit better, also IMOHO (my own humble opinion).
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
05 Defense was scary good
Superman wears an Urlacher Jersey under his costume
by BearNecessities on Dec 4, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
agreed
05 was my favorite year as far as defense goes. winning a game in OT via safety? that is outstanding. remember when rookie orton threw 5 picks and the bears only lost 9-7? mike brown even played (and played extremely well) in most of the games that season if memory serves correctly. too bad they let some scrub named chris thompson on the field during the playoffs….and let him try to cover steve smith 1v1.
this season is a bit similar to that only because i feel the same warm and fuzzy feeling of watching the bears go from worst to first in one season, like in 05.
by reefermadness3 on Dec 5, 2010 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know about over achieving.
Izzy has been rotated in and out and put at different positions since he came into the league. We are keeping him steady and he is capitalizing on the opportunities, but not over achieving.
The league didn't fine Cutler because the official missed an obvious pass interference call.
The only one’s that didn’t think so were the Zebras and the Lions. Obvious ursine discrimination.
Brandon banks over Hester?
Shut the front door!
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 4, 2010 2:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Greg Olsen is not in top 3 for TE?!
Blashpemy
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 4, 2010 2:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Who is Julia Meyer?
And why does she have the rights to the SBShuffle?
Not that I care, I’m kinda fine with her having the rights. But this is the first I’ve heard of this.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Boy that's
a great question. From the picture she barely (or Bearly, get it?) looks old enough to remember it when it came out. Wonder if she inherited the rights?
that picture
to me looks like something from 1985.
by reefermadness3 on Dec 5, 2010 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
The idea and writing was done by
Richard "Dick" Meyer, and Julia is his widow, so she inherited the rights. In 2004, she released it on DVD, which is what you see her holding in the pic up top.
I’d say she’s late 40s, early 50, Fridge.
Thanks, Virto
that makes sense now.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
thanks for the ditka video
that was the best thing i have watched in some time. the last couple of minutes really personifies the true greatness of ditka.
the part where he was rollerskating made me actually spit out what i was drinking. i had forgotten all about that much less how ridiculously funny that was.
Agreed that is a great video!
Another reason this site is the best, we got Ditka.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
Ditka is pretty AWESOME!!!
Love the way he just tells it how it is. “We are putting fear in no one.”
by Jonathan Heun Jr on Dec 5, 2010 10:26 AM CST reply actions
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