However you can get them--Bears Win! Bears at Lions Quick Recap
The "every game is a playoff" mentality continues.
Sloppy football by both sides, but the Bears lasted it out to maintain their one-game lead against the Packers.
Quick stats after the jump.
Some thoughts:
Try tackling early. It works.
One TD and a first down doesn't make up for letting your quarterback get murdered, Manu. Keep that in mind.
Special Teams: Please come to all the games from now on. I think Dave Toub might murder someone.
Jay Cutler has thrown 1 interception in the last 72 attempts.
The Bears are still one game ahead of the Packers--let's keep it that way.
The Lions should provide for some good matchups in the next few years. Looking forward to some fun times.
The hit by Suh on Cutler was debatable. However, not reviewable. So it happened.
Stats grabbed from nfl.com
| CHICAGO BEARS | ||||
| Passing | CP/AT | YDS | TD | INT |
| J. Cutler | 21/26 | 234 | 1 | 0 |
| Rushing | CAR | YDS | TD | LG |
| M. Forte | 13 | 64 | 1 | 17 |
| C. Taylor | 9 | 33 | 1 | 9 |
| Receiving | REC | YDS | TD | LG |
| E. Bennett | 7 | 104 | 0 | 33 |
| C. Taylor | 5 | 31 | 0 | 9 |
| J. Knox | 3 | 34 | 0 | 20 |
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| DETROIT LIONS | ||||
| Passing | CP/AT | YDS | TD | INT |
| D. Stanton | 16/24 | 178 | 1 | 0 |
| Rushing | CAR | YDS | TD | LG |
| J. Best | 9 | 65 | 0 | 45 |
| M. Morris | 10 | 37 | 0 | 8 |
| Receiving | REC | YDS | TD | LG |
| B. Pettigrew | 5 | 36 | 0 | 14 |
| C. Johnson | 3 | 66 | 1 | 46T |
| N. Burleson | 3 | 27 | 0 | 15 |
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A win is a win ....
… and I’ll take it ! Earl looks to our best WR , Jay has played great for 5 games now & Peppers has come to Chicago to earn his loot !
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
Wasn't pretty... but a W is a W.
Our defense forgot how to tackle today.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Yup!
My 23-20 guess was close. They can’t seem to take the smuck games seriously!!
Drew Who? … and 90+ yards in under 60 seconds for 6 sucks! (PAT makes 7)
However the spirit of George Halas appears at the strangest times :)
Go Bears!
pbanachi
I believe I have your hat to eat.
Detroit did score 20. May I have some salt ?
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Dec 6, 2010 8:37 AM CST up reply actions
A win is a Win
But if they let the Pats run over them in the first half like that next week, they don’t have a chance….
Seems like we get up ...
…. for the good teams and play down to the bad teams . Pats are good so we should play great !
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Dec 5, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Well everyone will pick the Patsies
next week, so hopefully the D will bring the wood. I could use some autumn lumber.
lovie smith teams
cannot handle success. it is infuriating that they can come out flat for this game.
division game
other team coming off extra long prep time.
and it was a 7-7 game at end of the first. not exactly “coming out flat”.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
allie,
they came out flat. that lions team should not be able to move the ball that well with drew stanton behind center.
You underestimate teams a lot, don't you?
Stanton isn’t exactly a guy you have a lot of film on, and he’s throwing to one of the best receiving corps in the league. We didn’t make Stanton look good. Stanton looked good onhis own. He was making good decisions and being patient. Do you ever give the other team credit for playing well, or is it always that the Bears sucked if the other team does something right?
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
no i don't
i wasn’t expecting a blow out here either. in my opinion, the defense did not come out as dominate as they usually do or should have against a 2-9 team. they were blown off the ball and tackled very poorly early on. they are better than that.
they did tackle poorly
but some of that is because of the lions, who are fast, fresh off 10 days off, and better than their record looks.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
i agree
but at the same time, the bears d is the fastest in the conference. maybe pisa being out hurt them more than expected.
Pisa AND Roach being out.
If not for D Mannings speed, they might have scored a couple more times. At least one that I can remember for sure. I was pleasantly surprised in Manning today. But the tackling really bothered me, though some of it is to the credit of Best and Megatron. Especially Megatron’s TD catch and run. His stiff-arms were all him. That was a studly TD.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
if manning got to play FS
for 5 straight years, i think we would all be very happy with him. I’m curious what they’ll do with him this off season.
Don't give them any more bright ideas.
Nice to finally see him settled in a spot. Imagine that. Developing a player actually has benefits to the team. Who woulda thunk, right?
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
tackling bothered me, as well.....
but that 2-9 number is something I don’t get hung up on. That’s how teams lose games….by looking at 2-9 and ignoring the fact that the Lions have passed the ball pretty well and have been scoring points all year. Not to mention they have possibly the best WR in the game, and the best RZ offense in the game.
It’s their defense that sucks, not their offense. I was worried all week about how the secondary would hold up to the Lions passing game. It’s a big play offense that can also dink and dunk the crap out of you. They nearly beat us twice this year and they’ve lost 6 of their 10 by less than a TD. Kinda like the Bills. They are a better team than their record indicates.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Also, I don't know if it's true or not...
but the announcers said the Lions were the most efficient team in the NFL in the red-zone. Whether that’s true or not, this team knows how to score points, and it knows how to give them up.
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
Can I answer this?
Having watched Stanton for a couple of years, most Lions fans would agree that Stanton playing at this level was COMPLETELY unexpected. He’s good in mop-up preseason action, but hasn’t put enough together to even move up the depth chart during a season. If you had said before this game that going up against a Bears defense that shut down one of the more explosive offenses in the league one week prior, he’d post a QB rating of over 100, you’d have been called crazy.
We didn’t expect Best to run so well on two turf toes. We didn’t expect Stanton to play that well on one week’s worth of snaps. I personally thought the game wouldn’t be this close, and I’m sure a majority of Lions fans would have agreed.
That said, good game. You guys made the big plays when you needed to and the quick passes and YAC made the game for you, which speaks to good coaching from Martz and good play from Cutler and the WR’s. The only thing to mar it (again) was a questionable call that went against the Lions late in the game, which was neither unexpected nor the cause of the loss, but was all the more frustrating because it happened yet again.
The only real positive for Lions fans from the game, however, is that it looks like Lovie is a lock for a multiyear extension. At least we’ve got THAT to look forward to.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Dec 5, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
My point wasn't....
what you would have expected before the game, but what you saw during the game and the credit you assign afterwards (though I might argue that, as well. I’ve liked this kid since his days a MSU, and I hate the Spartans). Stanton deserves more credit than just “the Bears screwed up” for that game. he played well and earned that 100 rating. I was impressed.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
He didnt turn it over either
i was shocked by that as well no fumbles or picks
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 5, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
A lot of good things happened
The O-Line mostly kept your LB’s out, and it seems to me that they didn’t do as much blitzing as I would have, or even as much as you did in Game 1.
The running game, I’m still not understanding where that came from, as the Lions haven’t been good at run blocking all year. I’ll call that a fluke.
And, yes, Stanton played well and made correct reads.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Dec 5, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
Stanton has also been with the lions for 4 years i beleive
so its not like he just came off the street, i think that fluke 2 play 91 yard drive is what SHOCKED alot of us
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 5, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't call it fluke.
It wa two very nice plays. I’ll give credit where it was due. Best did a great job or bouncing it outside, and were it not for Manning’s speed, he might have had a TD on that play. And Megatron willed himself into the endzone on the next play.
I love Andre Johnson, but CJ is making a case for him being the best in the game….period.
Plays like those were why I was worried about this game all week. We didn’t match up well defensively with their offense, as evidenced by both games this year.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
johnson's been hobbled by foot/ankle injuries
he and johnson are definitely 1 and 1a.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
The Lions are not as bad as their record says
They play good at home, and are good in the trenches. That team will be in the mix next year.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 6, 2010 1:15 AM CST up reply actions
I agree completely.
Aside from a LB deficiency, the Lions are not short on talent. Now they just have to learn how to win. I think the same old “we can’t” attitude is there, manifesting themselves into the 4th quarter “luck” problems that they display almost weekly. If they can figure out that they are as talented as they are, and that the level of talent on that team is a good as any team in the league, then they will be a tough, tough team.
My thing is that different coaches are good at different things. Jim Schwartz has done a fantastic job of building a talented team, but I’m starting to question whether he can turn around the culture in Detroit the same way he has turned around the talent. They are two different tasks, and watching the Lions this season, I question whether he doesn’t need help with that aspect. New assistants, maybe?
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 6, 2010 6:34 AM CST up reply actions
I dunno, they look like up and comers to me.
Stanton and the entire Detroit team played really well. It was a good game start to finish.
They are 2 drafts away from being a really really good team.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Dec 6, 2010 8:43 AM CST up reply actions
They didn't play like shit
The run defense was less than to be desired, but they didn’t have many penalties (4 for 25 yards) or turnovers (1). The offense was great on 3rd down as well (55%). I wouldn’t necessarily call those “shitty” numbers.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
lets just enjoy this one
thinking too much about belichic is going to make me nauseous.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Great Game of Cutler and Bennet, but..
..I don´t know what happened to our D# today, but we can’t play like this, allowing big plays on next game, or we wil be screwed..
by Claudio Oliveira on Dec 5, 2010 3:04 PM CST reply actions
lions are young fast and improving
and had 10 days to get ready for us.
don’t get too worried.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
i agree lions are a good team
And the defense stepped up in the 2nd half only allowing 50 yards roughly and 3 pts ill take that
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 5, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
if they ever learn how to close teams out
they’ll be really good.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
for our sake lets hope it doesnt happen anytime soon ;)
and we talk them into trading us Suh
man i love watching that guy play
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 5, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
he's a beast
can you imagine him next to a guy like peppers?
yikes!
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Bah
Who needs him? We have Marcus Harrison and the ghost of Tommie Harris!
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
less about getting him on our team
and fright about the lions landing the next peppers.
shudder
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Great Game of Cutler and Bennet, but..
..I don´t know what happened to our D# today, but we can’t play like this, allowing big plays on next game, or we wil be screwed..
by Claudio Oliveira on Dec 5, 2010 3:04 PM CST reply actions
Two words can explain it .......
……. division game .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Dec 5, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
I've been as critical of him as anyone but this, to me, is a game that Jay Cutler went out and won for the Bears.
The run where Suh was flagged for throwing a forearm, was one of the gutsiest plays I’ve seen from any QB in years. While he didn’t have the long pass, ESPN highlight type of play in this game, he played like a championship QB in my opinion. I’ll take that any day of the week.
No doubt
if Jay keeps playing like this, the Bears will cause major damage in the playoffs.
by NorthSideBearsFan on Dec 6, 2010 8:29 AM CST up reply actions
I just hope that the Pats beat the Jets this week,
Belichik and Brady usually punish the next team if they lose. Without looking anything up, I can’t remember when the last time was that the Pats lost two in a row.
they're like 23-3 after losses
over the last 4 years.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Meh
All the talk about how the Pats will win easily in the media and home-field advantage will nulify any advantage they have.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
The Pats have certainly been
playing pretty well, but I still feel that they are more beatable this year than in the past. Can’t explain it, just think so.
No deep threat in their offense
That’s the reason why I think they’re more beatable.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
And no real defense to speak of
They have won a lot of games by winning the shootout.
I don't care about the Pats and the Jets...
Sure, it’d be nice to beat them, but if we win out the division we’re in the playoffs. We got an ugly one today, and I’ll take ugly wins over losses “any given Sunday”.
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 12:43 AM CST up reply actions
Denver just about to lose lost to the Chiefs. Schadenfreude, thine taste art delicious.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
One of the worst i have seen.
He was an offensive guy and what did he do?
Got rid of
Jay Cutler
Brandon Marshall
Tony Scheffler
Peyton Hillis
to make it more confusing you trade for brady quinn but trade into the first round for tebow??
sucks for neckbeard though i always loved orton and his drunken pics
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 5, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
feel bad for kyle
but still, thanks denver for jay and knox.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
we got robbed on that trade..
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
whatever
i like kyle, always have.
but i’d still make that trade every time.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I am being sarcastic..
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
Orton’s having a career year that should get him a gig elsewhere, those douchebag Denver fans who used to troll here are enjoying their extreme suckitude now that all their best players have been forced out. It’s a win-win :-D
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
dont feel too bad
kyle will be doing this alot

Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 5, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
benglas jumped offside on a 4th and 2 on the 15.
When Brees was just trying to get them to jump. Just not well coached.
by Chitownproduct on Dec 5, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
sloppy game indeed
that lions score at the end of the 1st half was pretty much horrendous and inexcusable. cutler played great (again) overall and hopefully the defense cleans up some of the ick they showed today by next sunday.
Bungles..says it all
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
MHR is imploding about how Orton sucks right now
Love it…
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
by tfrabotta on Dec 5, 2010 3:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
poor kyle
he should run the ball more. couldn’t hurt at this point.
by reefermadness3 on Dec 5, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Imagine if the Broncos wouldn't have traded Peyton Hillis for Brady Quinn?
They wouldve been pretty legit
i really
don’t get why quinn isn’t any good. my ND homerism aside, big qb, great arm, and you don’t graduate from that school as an idiot. i’m suprised he has looked as poor as he has.
brains and arm aren't everything
he needs another chance. jay didn’t have a whole lotta success early on either and he’s got the same tangibles (great arm, smart, etc).
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
besides brains and arm
there isn’t much else, you need to be smart and athletically able. i agree with you and train that maybe he needs just another chance.but i’m suprised he doesn’t show enough to get some dedicated starts.
I think it has more to do with Kyle than Brady.
Kyle has played very good football. It’s hard to bench a guy who’s playing that well no matter who is behind him, and Kyle has done what he’s been asked to do. He’s playing the best football of his career.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
even in cleveland
i was suprised he didn’t out preform andersone after his pro bowl? season.
Me, too
Though I think it might have something to do with Mangina’s inability to develop even a cold.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
look how long it took kyle to get dedicated starts
after the early success.
perceptions linger from pre-draft stuff. hell, you still hear people say stuff about Tom Brady’s predraft workouts (weak arm, not very mobile) and he’s tom brady.
the league is weird
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I'm with you on that one.
Quinn might end up being one of those late bloomers, though. In Cleveland, Mangina didn’t develop him (or anyone else for that matter) and in Denver, Kyle has just been doing to well to unseat and get those practice and game reps. I wouldn’t call him a bust, yet, but more of a guy on the waiting list. Could go either way, yet.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Mmhmm. Carolina?
C’mon, can’t be any worse than Jimmy Clausen.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
Yeah, Jimmy got the raw end of that deal, didn't he?
Not exactly put in a position to win. Or even compete, lol. For all the complaints of the McCaskeys and Angelo and Smith, We don’t have anything close to the level of ineptitude that plagues the poor fans of the Panthers.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
And unfortunately...
Canning Fox won’t make that team better either.
From the top down, that team is mismanaged worse than the Bears by far.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
Hey!
I hate to say it (complimenting JA ::shudders::), but our team has been assembled decently. While our o-line is a sack of crap, our defense is solid and most of the offense is too. We’re better than Caroline for sure.
"Welcome to the place where I lazily threaten people and then everyone laughs."
- Kev H
i disagree abotu the team building
how much better does this team look with meddenhall or otah from the williams draft class? especially since other GMs were wary of williams. i have to think they could have picked up a better guard than williams in the meantime.
Every GM flops on picks, and Angelo is actually pretty decent on...
the number of picks he’s made that are still in the league. But I agree, Williams was a head scratcher.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah. I actually had to make a post defending him as...
Most of the defence is indeed home grown. With the exception of Pisa, Peppers, Adams… all were either PS pickups or draft picks (or Chris Harris)
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
I see what you did there!
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 12:46 AM CST up reply actions
Except for that hideous defense
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
yeah
can’t believe the browns landed hillis and will still get picks from denver in the draft this year.
kinda nutty
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
This is truth.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
scheffler(sp?) was a good TE also
maybe we can get orton back as a solid #2 for say a 5th rounder at this point.
by reefermadness3 on Dec 5, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
The way McNugget trades we might be able to get Kyle and a second rounder for.....
Kahlil Bell and a bag of twizzlers.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
How big a bag of twizzlers, though? Wouldn’t want those Denver douches over here again, yelling about how great the trade was for them…
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
hahaha
i can see the tim tebow era starting a little sooner than expected.
how hilarious would it be if we got kyle to be our backup to cutler next year? god knows he’d be a lot better than todd collins.
if martz is back
i’d rather get bulger or someone who knows the system coming in.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Bulger is afraid of his own shadow
because he got sacked so many times in St. Louis. Concussions and broken ribs made him very gun shy.
by TheotherDane on Dec 5, 2010 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
ugh
Looking forward to some fun times
F that. i want lifelong dominance. :)
i don’t understand why the first time these guys get respect they go out and look like monkeys f’ing footballs. i wish lovie could get them fired up for an inferior team for once. on the “plus” side, no inferior teams from here on out. vikings included.
congrats jay on your first winnig season….apparenlty in a long time. you have been a tough S.O.B. this year.
1st winning season since high school...
from what I’ve heard.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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Chalk up another W
Close, scary, sucky, whatever, I will take them, all of them. Got to admit, the Pats kinda scare me but get it done and I will savor this one until nexy week
Chris Harris pisses me off.
I see why he’s called “Hitman” and not “Tackle-man” because he can’t tackle for shit. If I see him try and tackle one more guy by yanking on his arm, I’m going to projectile vomit all over the place.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 5, 2010 3:23 PM CST reply actions
tackling is an almost lost art
everyone wants the ‘jacked up hit’ instead of the ‘clean tackle’.
textbook tackles don’t get you views on youtube in hs or recruiting trips. starts early. and becomes a habit
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I'm starting to believe Manning has a Pro Bowl argument.
I wouldn’t have believed it earlier in the year, but the more I watch, the more I believe that he’s among the best in the conference.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Just imagine is he was a SS for his whole career......
There's no substitute for guts.
-Paul Bear Bryant
by I love football! on Dec 5, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
If he was a SS**
There's no substitute for guts.
-Paul Bear Bryant
by I love football! on Dec 5, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
Good teams win games like that one.
I’m happy. I’ll take it.
Yeah but it worked!
What Dils said
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
What iowaBear said about Dils
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 12:49 AM CST up reply actions
What Chauncey Baker said about what iowaBear said about what Dils said. :)
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 6, 2010 6:37 AM CST up reply actions
Ditto
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
I am a little concerned that the Oline seemed to regress today
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
the tackles looked pretty bad overall
especially weak how they both failed miserably on the cutler fumble.
by reefermadness3 on Dec 5, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
We had two really good sustained drives in the first half.
Those both resulted in touchdowns. 4 sacks is bad (I think), 14 points is better. The fact that the first touchdown was a 13 play drive says the O-line is (just barely) good enough. I expect an implosion soon though.
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 12:53 AM CST up reply actions
they still won!
maybe the curse of allie is broken
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
hmmm one for like five doesn't guarantee the streak is over.
predict losses just to be sure! :)
dear gar/pax,
trade for courtney lee.
thank you
i'll just stop going on record with anything
the universe enjoys making a liar out of me!
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
For the record....
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Best line of the post game.
D.j. Moore was asked about them pulling it out in the end and he replied " Who wants to lose to the Lions jees louies"
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
moore and bennett
are fast becoming some of my new favorite bears players. it must be something in the water at Vanderbilt.
Am I the only one who noticed that the Bears have won every game Major Wright’s played in? (First-time post in WCG – gr8 site)
Easier to get the fan out of Chicago, then to get the Bears out of the fan. Once a Bears fan, always a Bear fan.
Welcome
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
If he had more to do with the victories
then I’d say that you were on to something. Nice observation though.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 5, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
couldn’t find stats anywhere on how well the secondary is covering the receivers. But the way the Cover-2 operates, the better the secondary does its job, the more time the front four have to get to the QB. Definitely saw an increase in the pressure over the past few games, and think that Major being back in the safety rotation is beneficial.
Easier to get the fan out of Chicago, then to get the Bears out of the fan. Once a Bears fan, always a Bear fan.
by BearDownIsrael on Dec 5, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Hello Israel
Welcome to the place where I lazily threaten people and then everyone laughs.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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Mr. H...I'm waiting (subserviantly) for your lazy threat.
Thank you sir! May I have another?
(Yes, I’m going to be a problem)
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 12:57 AM CST up reply actions
Welcome!
And yes you may be the first to notice. I like Major Wright. Tough kid who gives the effort.
by TheotherDane on Dec 5, 2010 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
welcome!
So Major is the good luck charm? Nice!
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 6, 2010 1:17 AM CST up reply actions
Tampa is playing in the biggest game they've played
in 4 years and they play it wearing those pastel, popsicle uniforms from the 80s? Really??
Yeah but it worked!
lol, thought the same thing!
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Here's what I wonder.....
How will the media handle this win. Will it be another “Bears only beat lowly 2-9 Lions by 4” or “Bears pull out a come from behind victory in the 4th against a game DET squad” like we will inevitably see about Brees and the Saints, who blew a 14 point lead in the second half and had to rely on hoping for an enchroachment call on 4th down to beat the lowly 2-9 Bungles to come back and win in the final minute.
Not that I’m knocking the Saints win. Bungles should have been smart enough to know a hard count on 4th and 2 with less than 30 seconds left was meant to draw them off. But the Saints game was just as close, if not closer, then our game, and I know that in at least some writers minds we will see a valiant Brees leading his team to a come-from-behind victory in the final minutes over the talented Bengals for their fifth straight win while we’ll read a lot about Cutler and the overachieving Bears lucking a squeaker of a 4 point win over the Lowly Lions, who also happen to be 2-9.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 3:41 PM CST reply actions
who cares what the reporters say?
i care about how the team handles it and how they practice and prepare for the pats.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Don't get me wrong, I agree.
But it is still frustrating. But I’ll take under-rated and disrespected winners over respected and admired losers any day.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
sorry that was really dismissive
i didn’t mean for it to be like that.
its just one of those fan attitudes i’ve never gotten. i like to know what other people think, but i don’t need an editorial to tell me what my team is or what to think.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I don't need them to tell me anything...
But it would be nice if they gave credit where it was due. I’m sick of Manning being the best decision maker in the league while he throws more INTs than Cutler, or Brees and the Saints being given credit for being tough in a close win against a lowly opponent, but the Bears being maligned for the same types of wins.
It’s just frustrating.
And I didn’t take you as dismissive, my friend. I took it as conversation.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
aikman just called out peyton's decision making
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Aikman can.
Before Chad Pennington came along, Aikman was the most accurate QB in league history. Not a lot of guys have that kind of credibility.
I actually think Aikman is one of the better announces on TV. Not great. But he’s better by a lot than most.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
i like him and buck
they work. buck does solid play by play, aikman gives decent and honest color.
they know how to be quiet.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
if it wasn't
for the fact that Buck has an extremely punchable face I’d agree with you.
Anarchist. Misanthrope. Beard aficionado.
The Germans have a word for that – backpfeifengesicht. It translates as a face that cries out to be slapped or is badly in need of a fist. It’s second only to the Japanese term bakku-shan in general usefulness, in my opinion.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
I refuse to wtach Aikman and Buck during Cowboy games
Totally biased. Even Buck, and he never played for them.
by Chitownproduct on Dec 5, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
You bring up a good point
The Saints have been doing it with mirrors all year. I swear they should be 5-7 but they are the Champs and deserve the benefit of the doubt I guess. But I think the Bears are in a good spot right now. Hey, their offense is starting to win games and positions and roles are being solidified. They’re ready for the stretch run and that’s all we can ask for. It wasn’t pretty but they won.
Yeah but it worked!
jay keeps playing well
he’ll start getting the benefit.
havign lived away from chcicago now for a decade+ (as i beleive many of us here do) i have noticed a change in opposing team fan’s opinion. a lot more people now when askign if the bears are for real now say: “well they are 8-3” where as earlier it wasn’t as complimentary. i think national media mirriors national “average opposing fan” opinion pretty closely.
there are some guys that just won’t buy in unless a team goes on destructive rampages, or has patriots-like cred. but i think the extreme parity of this year is starting to sink in with people.
I've been saying it all season, but no one's been listening...
because I haven’t put it on the internet. But this Detroit team is a good team. I’m glad VandenBosch (ech?) didn’t play because I think Burleson would’ve been right. Detroit has scored a bunch of points this season and still lost…same with Buffalo. Pundits look at records for the most part and not at what the teams are doing.
Detroit gives up points in the second half. Once they get that figured out they’re going to be scary good. I don’t think the Lions are that Lowly. I think they’ve caught some bad breaks. I think their going to be contenders in the future. BTW, the Lions are 2-10.
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 1:06 AM CST up reply actions
I just read a lion fan say they should be in first place. Am I missing something or are they 2-10?
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
First place??? I don't think so!
Althought they are a better team then 2-10……….
There's no substitute for guts.
-Paul Bear Bryant
by I love football! on Dec 5, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure the reference is to losing....
6 games this year by less than a TD, and quite a few of them had plays that could have gone either way. But the problem the lions have is a lack of faith. Until they believe in themselves, they will continue to find a way to lose close games. It’s the difference between 2-10 and 8-4, at least for the Lions this season.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
No they aren't
Because that’s their record. In all the same ways that a 9-3 team isn’t worse than their record, a 2-10 team isn’t better than them.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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Sorry, but that is a very....
tunnel visioned point of view, Kev. I get where your going with it, being that we have seen the “worst 9-3 team ever” reference leveled at the Bears.
But lets face it, you expect a 2-10 team to be horrible. But the Lions are 6-10 plays all season away from 8-4. Now, those 6-10 plays are most often the difference between 10-2 and 6-6, but the Lions have not played like a team that you would think was 2-10 when you see them.
I’m not saying they should be 8-4. What I’m saying is that this very sight posted a link to a article about how the Bears have had the ball bounce their way a lot this year and how that is the case more often than not with playoff teams. Well, the Lions are a team that has had the ball bounce the other way an awful lot. In some games, it was by their own fault (as in this one), but in other games it was chance. Sorry, but all 2-10 teams are not equal.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
lions have had 2nd half leads in more than half their games
they can’t close out teams. but thats something you learn, as a team, coach, etc.
if they could keep stafford healthy, they really might be contenders.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Don't get me wrong they are probably the best 2-10 team that I've ever seen.
But that’s why they play 4 quarters.
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
try not to be too hard on the lions fans
i’m a cubs fan. i know how it is to only have hope. and live in “should be”s.
its a sad sad place.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Dec 5, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel you on the cubbies. They are not good for your health.
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
I root for both
They don’t let me shave myself anymore.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Dec 5, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
LOL, funny!
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
finally listenign
to some of the espn1000 podcasts from friday dedicated to santo. what a shame.
loved that man
not a great announcer, but a good guy.
the real shame is that now the hof voters will put him in the hall out of guilt when they should’ve done it years ago out of pure acknowledgement.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I hope his family declines it
It’s what he wanted.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Dec 5, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
true
just a shame all around.
this is a great article about how to be an ambassador, btw. worth the read written by santo himself
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
What really gets me
I was listening to the Score, and one of the clueless yokels they put on was yammering about him not taking care of his diabetes.
Seems like he managed to miss the part where it was complications from his bladder cancer and not his diabetes that killed him.
God, I hate the Score. Every single one of them besides Lawrence Holmes.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Dec 5, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
That's f'ing horrendous
Ronnie took way better care of his diabetes for someone his age, having it since he was 18 way back in the day (when they knew VERY little about how to treat diabetes), than most people even today. It’s an awful goddamn disease, period. And it was even worse 50 years ago with little understanding about treatment.
I’m sure the Score hosts corrected the yokel who said that. Wait, actually, I’m sure they didn’t.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
The yokel in question was the Score host
I wasn’t clear, sorry.
The only two things on there worth bothering with are Holmes and Grobstein. I feel sorry I passed over Les the first time. But, yeah, the rest of them? Not worth the electricity.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Dec 5, 2010 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
First Place?
Yeah, I’d say tied for first place, to get the chance to pick first in next years draft.
All women are beautiful when the lights are off!
by touchdown bears on Dec 5, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
I love those bucs uni's
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
I like that Feeman kid. He's gonna be a gamer for a long time.
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
i remember
he being a guy some bears fans wanted to go after. plays tough.
I recall some experts saying that pick was the worst pick in the draft.
Picked to high, not ready for the NFL you know hoe smart the experts are.
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
Yep. If people can
get off Bradford’s jock for a second to notice what he’s doing that would be great
Yeah but it worked!
I believe so. For now anyway
Yeah but it worked!
Manning just threw his second pick this one was a pick 6
as bad as anything I"ve seen Cutler do.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
manning is going to cost me money
i had a nice 5 team parlay and the 1st 4 (all noon games) worked out but peyton is throwing away what would have been a good win. that guy has been kind of awful lately, wonder what gives? injuries doesn’t explain today’s play so far.
by reefermadness3 on Dec 5, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
Peyton is KILLING my fantasy team
and I actually had Cutler on the bench the last few weeks. No longer….
by NorthSideBearsFan on Dec 6, 2010 9:06 AM CST up reply actions
But Manning doesn't make "Cutler" type mistakes....
Didn’t you know that?
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Him and Brady have been playing
behind great O-lines for years. Maybe Jeff Saturday is the MVP of that team
Yeah but it worked!
I would say it is Clark
I forget if it was the Fox or ESPN guys saying it, but Manning has been forcing a lot of long passes lately, passes that likely would have been shorter dump offs & checkdowns to Dallas Clark.
Jay Cutler is awesome
Prickly, short-tempered, incredibly talented, wonderfully smart, and awesome. I’ll take him.
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Yeah he should get a lot more
Chi-Town meatball love than he does. He’s the perfect Chicago QB. If we loved McMahon…
Yeah but it worked!
wasn't very aware at the time
how much was mcmahon beloved before 85?
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I'm not sure
I’m not old enough to know. I’m sure some of the older fans will comment soon and let us know. But as a kid, those 85 Bears were superheroes to me. Ans McMahon was like a God. Cutler should start getting some of that love for his talent and attitude. I love the guy
Yeah but it worked!
i just think winning does that
jay leads this team to the playoffs (specifically with an win or 2 in the playoffs) and that love with flow. you can be a winner who’s a tough guy with off body language… but until he wins, its hard to embrace it
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
about jay's body language...
i heard a lot of crap about jay’s bodylanguage prior to today, but honestly i dont see the kind of Phillip Rivers quality bullshit that you get with dudes who value themselves over their team. I think Jay Cutler knows all about the hate he gets from Chicago, but he gets the big picture too. Jay knows not to be a wilting flower dumbass. Go Jay!! Go Bears!! Bear down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Rivers has taken his team to playoffs
and wins in the playoffs.
thats why he gets such less bullshit.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Rivers
That’s definitely true, though I would say that Rivers has been as much the reason that the Chargers have underperformed in the Playoffs than the reason they have won.
Some fun facts about Rivers in the playoffs:
-He’s never been in a playoff game without an INT.
-He’s been held without a passing td in three of his seven playoff games.
-He hasn’t been bad, but he does not play to his level in big games. His regular season QBR is 97.3 lifetime and his lifetime playoff QBR is 77.9.
-His record as a starter in playoff games is 3-4.
-He’s thrown 8 TDs and 9 INTs in 7 playoff games.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
the playoffs are hard
but he’s gotten there and won a game. thats why he gets called fiery and a leader and a big reason why jay gets called petulant and bad language.
jay wins and a LOT (not all, but a lot) of that turns into “leadership” “emotion” and “love for the game”.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Oh, I agree....
Again, QBs are the face, and the fact that Jay played very well on a Denver team that had zero defense will always be ignored for a guy like Rivers who has played very well with better pieces around him and a far better defense.
I don’t down Rivers for it. He’s played well behind a very good line and with the help of a very good defense and, for the most part, a solid rushing unit. But, In my opinion, QBs take far to much blame for losses in areas they cannot control, like special teams and defense.
I find it funny that Rivers best playoff outing came in a 35-24 loss to the Steelers in ‘08. Rivers threw 3 TDs and 308 yards with the Pitt D keying on him because his rushing game provided all of 15 yards on 11 carries. Yet his defense, his ST unit and his rushing game all failed him and the loss gets pinned on him. Funny that QB is the only position that stats show a win loss record for. Was that game really Rivers’ loss?
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
I do not think Rivers has one a Playoff Game.
Somebody correct me if I am incorrect. I think they choke everytin=me they reach the playoffs.
2 playoff wins in 2007
losing to Pats in AFC Champ game. 1 game in 2008. had a bye in 2009 and lost to the Jets in division round.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Rivers is 3-4 in the playoffs.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 6, 2010 6:42 AM CST up reply actions
I would be more happy with 3 to 4 playoff wins (pending bye week status)
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
If they all come in the same playoff bracket, then me, too.
Spread over multiple seasons and sprinkled with losses? eh….
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 6, 2010 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
He was my guy
I loved him since he came in and was all world coming out of BYU
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
Asked my dad
about this and he said that he remembered that McMahon was fairly liked and even did a few commercials in 84…..But his popularity took off after 85…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
Everyone loves a rebel...he thumbed his nose at Ditka (and Ditka respected him for it)for petes sake...
how do you not love that???
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
More Cutler lovin.
Cutler
21/26
234YD
9.0YPA
1TD
0INT
117.0 PR.
accurate shmacurate.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
strangest stat ever
“when the qb is really really good, the team wins”.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Dec 5, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I literally LOLed at this!
rec for you!
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
It's not a trap!
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 1:19 AM CST up reply actions
Cutler Pro Bowl? Or is it too late?
Yeah but it worked!
no idea
i never vote for the probowl. why voting starts in october and the game isn’t til feb is something i’ve never understood
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
now this is just weird
but it’s sort of an experiment of mine. I always start voting ASAP for london fletcher. that dude NEEDS to be in a probowl, but it never seems to happen.
I say, vote vote vote no matter what, and hope that the brightest bulb shines thru.
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
i just get frustrated
i don’t vote for allstar games. wish it was done by either coaches or players, fans can’t know who the best Center in the league is. You just get the guy with the best known name.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
the best center of the league is Jeff Saturday. Glad I could help.
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
And I agree.
The league does it to generate fan interest in the actual game, but I agree, it’s a popularity contest that sees a disproportionate number of big market players and media darlings in the fan vote.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
@Kev H
I posted the fanshot of favre getting drilled. it didnt work though? could you reformat it?
"Welcome to the place where I lazily threaten people and then everyone laughs."
- Kev H
Bears are 5-1 on the road
I dont know if people have realized this but this is pretty darn good
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
I noticed it, I'm just...quiet about it.
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 1:21 AM CST up reply actions
Bucs on the move to tie up Falcons
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
on the one with :25 in the half
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
TD Bucs tied at the half
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
And P. Manning just like that
TD pass to Wayne. Wow, right out of the 2nd half gates …
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
And then ANOTHER Manning pick!
Another pick-6!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Really?? This is the AP heradline for hte game summary?
“Jay Cutler throws TD pass after questionable roughing call to lift Bears”
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=301205008
What did we get about 10 yards off of that due to half the distance?
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
Questionable?
It looked like a forearm live and even if it wasn’t you can’t just deliver a hand shiver to the back of someones head.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 6, 2010 1:20 AM CST up reply actions
I've watched it a couple of times now.
It really wasn’t a forearm, it was more a punch to the back of the head/neck. Suh is going to be a problem in the division, not so much because he’s good…it’s because he’s mean.
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 1:25 AM CST up reply actions
it wasn't a forearm
but it looked like it at full speed… Here’s a thought… maybe Suh could have tackled Cutler?
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 6, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Bingo.
Like I said elsewhere, he wasn’t trying to tackle Cutler, he was trying to punish him. You want to go run through someone and smash them? Fine Run through them… but just like the whole idea behind “you’ll get called for holding if they see your arms extended”… Suh got busted because he chose to deliver a blow into the back of the QB by cocking his arm back and then thrusting it forward, just like a punch would be thrown (sort of).
Next time, grab the QB and fall on him.
Suh is a nasty DT...
He’ll be a terror for the next 10 years
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 6, 2010 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
It was only questionable because it was Jay Cutler
If it were Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or Brett Freakin’ Favre, Suh may’ve been ejected. Really.
They’re talking about it on the NFL Network, also saying that it wasn’t a penalty, and hey, let ’em play!
Here are my questions: Why didn’t Suh simply wrap up Jay and fall on him? He was in a perfect position to roll right over him. Why didn’t he put his arms around him and fall on him? Why was it necessary to give him a (double) forearm shiver to the back of the neck?
Suh wasn’t trying to tackle Cutler, which would have been easy at that moment. He was trying to hurt Cutler by bouncing him off the ground like a basketball. The ref saw this and called an entirely appropriate personal foul. You can see this from the sideline replay, by the fact that Suh drove his forearm into Jay and completely followed through, like a martial artist trying to break a stack of two-by-fours.
by Sweetness Lives On on Dec 6, 2010 5:53 AM CST up reply actions
I take a sick satisfaction
in watching a team who thought they could suck for half the season and turn it on in November for like the 5th straight year, getting their brains beat in by the Raiders. Screw you Chargers!
Yeah but it worked!
According to Michael Irvin
they are the best team in the league
_
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 5, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
alot of so called "EXPERTS"
say the same thing every year about the chargers…
did i mention i love boobies?
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Dec 5, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Dear Jay:
I have a wonderful cookpot full of Kashmiri Rogan Josh. It is awesome. Call me if you want that badass cookery.
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Rogan josh? Yum!
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
Jeez, all I have is chili. (And according to my wife...not good)
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 1:27 AM CST up reply actions
Atlanta and the great Matt Ryan are finding out the hard way
that real teams win on the road.
Yeah but it worked!
Note In the last 3 games
Cutler has thrown 2 INTs. pmanning has thrown 9 INTs (and 4 of them have been Pick 6s)…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
hes actually
only thrown 1 in the last 3 games, it was just the one to benny sapp in the miami game, none against the eagles and none to the lions.
And the media defends Manning as having to do it all himself
Which a few of us defended cutler with last year…but nobody believed us. goes off into his corner and pouts
So long as its
the Jay Cutler pout……I guess…..
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
He doesn't really have so much of a pout as he has a recessed chin.
I don’t read his expression as “pouty”; more of a “I don’t suffer fools gladly” kind of thing.
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
bucs
want to lose this game……
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
Get ready
for a week of the greatest team talk…..But right now they are doing it….Would have to agree as well……
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
I'm just tired of them
winning games they are suppose to lose. Freeman has outplayed Ryan. I don’t feel like hearing about Matty Ice for a whole week when he was outplayed. The Falcons are due.
Yeah but it worked!
Nope
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
Peyton Manning just had his second 4 INT game of the season.
With two returned for TDs. That guy needs to work on his decision making.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 6:28 PM CST reply actions
Haha +1
I’m enjoying that in the five game win streak Cutler’s TD-INT ratio is 10-3 and in the last three games Manning’s is 9-11. Especially because a “good friend” of HB’s and mine from college is a HUGE Colts fan and has been telling me for the last year that Cutler sucks and will never be any good.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Dec 6, 2010 12:53 AM CST up reply actions
+11
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 1:28 AM CST up reply actions
Living in Indiana, I get a lot of that.....
I have been reveling in the glory that is Manning throwing more INTs than TDs, as well. It quiets all those guys that love to tell you Manning can win by himself. Even the best QB in the league needs some talent around him to succeed. Lower the level of talent, and you lower the level of production from the QB.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 6, 2010 6:48 AM CST up reply actions
+1
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
Editor/Writer for WindyCityGridiron.com
perria
gonna be wrong on this one I think…..Not going to over turn it IMO……
Boo all you want but you know what….Deep down you know I am right!
- Mike Martz on how the feels about the fans
They should have...
Was not controlled. But you never know what view the ref is seeing in the booth.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 5, 2010 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
It's Atanta what else is new
They’ve been living off non-calls and penalties on other teams for weeks now.
Yeah but it worked!
by Dils on Dec 5, 2010 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you said what i need to
recd
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Dec 5, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions
Pride of Detroit
Lot of whining going on about how the refs screwed them out of a win..Really? That 8 yard penalty when it woule have been 3rd and one? I felt bad about my sig but now I don’t..
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
The Bears had some calls go against them
The Lions first series where Pettigrew got a first down, but in normal speed he looked at least two feet short. Hester in the endzone could’ve been called as well.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Lions O-line was doing a fair amount of holding this game, particularly in the the 1st half.
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 1:30 AM CST up reply actions
I got good news and bad news...
The bad news is that Atlanta won tonight:-(
The Good news is that the Pack are currently out of the playoffs:-)
Yeah but it worked!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings?type=playoffs&sort=conferenceRank&order=false
Yeah but it worked!
I got good news and bad news
my son said Ditka for the first time today. The bad news, well there isn’t any didn’t you hear my son said Ditka for the first time today, he’s two if that makes it more impressive to you college types.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 5, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Us college types want to know more about the enunciation before we give accolades.
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 1:32 AM CST up reply actions
It sounded like this, Dit-ka. Happy?
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
Estatic....
My 11 year old straight legs it like Walter Payton when he breaks away in his Pee Wee league games. That should be good for something, right? He also wants to grow a mustache like Butkus has in the poster in my man-cave when he grows up. I love that kid.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 6, 2010 6:52 AM CST up reply actions
The kid's got a good head on his shoulders.
You should post some of that Pee Wee league game film and let Wilt break it down for us! :)
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 6, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Congrats!
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
Cutler's first winning season!
I don’t believe it’s been mentioned yet. All those naysayers can go suck it! Now let’s get his first playof berth….then his first playoff win and so on.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Mike b said it about half way up.
But it’s totally overdue, he’s playing good ball wish I had seen the game.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
looks like the Bears defense clamped down hard in the 2nd half
,,and that’s a good thing to have happen.,
i was called away from the computer before the 2nd half so i didn’t get a c hance to see the rest of the game.
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott
Manu BLOWS someone was trying to sell me that it is like having an extra tackle on the field, that is BS he sucks. Or maybe he meant it is like the defense has an extra tackle on the field when he Manu is counted on for protection?
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Two words:
Touch. Down.
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
by Chauncey Baker on Dec 6, 2010 1:33 AM CST up reply actions
Eleven Words....
Nine other games plus the other 59 minutes of this one.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 6, 2010 6:54 AM CST up reply actions
Why do all the headlines say, "helped by controversial call?"
The call being the hit on Cutler?
Really… this is the focus of the game? Are you f’n serious?
Wanna talk about controversial calls… how about the fumble by Detroit (about a drive earlier), when the refs were scrambling in the pile to figure out who had the ball, and the Bears stood up from the pile with the ball in their hand, and yet the Lions were still awarded possesion.
F U media, and NFL. The Bears won… deal with it.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
exacty I stated it earlier
we got 8 yards on the penalty and would have picked up the first down with out it. No bearing on the game but the tool AP writer puts that in the headline? How do these guys keep their jobs. One bad thing about the internet, every idiot can write something about anything where as newspapers really had professionals doing knowledgeable articles instead of this drivel sometime.
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
This ↑.....
And on this guy (pops) and his minions……
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:07 AM CST up reply actions
Or doesn't pop.
Don’t know how I screwed that up……..but I did, lol.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:09 AM CST up reply actions
I can go along with this in almost all circumstances.
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Bear's Defense Sucked In the First Half
but came together in the 2nd. Nice adjustment by coach Marinelli.
Out O-line however, still sucks. I could just imagine what Cutler could do with a decent line.
J'marcus Webb.
Got to give tice & co credit. Sticking with him, trying to make adjustments and get him better. I don’t know if he has the talent though.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 6, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Good win
Vandy Connection came up big.
9-3 is just plain awesome too.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I'll Take It
And hopefully we can chalk up the Bears’ struggles to it being a division game. Now I feel we must root for the Patriots Monday night because Bellicheck does not often lose two games in a row. That being said, I imagine the Bears will play a lot better next week too.
Also, Jay Cutler is awesome. Matt Forte and Earl Bennett are beasts. And congrats to Jay for sealing his first winning season since high school!
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Dec 6, 2010 12:51 AM CST reply actions
Oh and let's give it up for Lovie Smith!
Only the 10th win under him when trailing after the half and after 3 quarters. This team is playing hard for him. I’m still not saying we should extend his contract, but he is doing a great coaching job this year. If he can put together back to back winning seasons, then I’ll maybe want to see a modest (2-3 year) extension (but I know that won’t happen since extensions seem to come in 4 year increments.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Dec 6, 2010 12:55 AM CST up reply actions
So then
Trent Dilsuck says we are posers…How is a 9-3 team posers if anything the Chargers are posers.
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
Trent Dilsuck
the ultimate poser. Superbowl champion my ass.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Craig Krenzel
Could win that game with that D covering his ass.
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
Dilfer....
Dilfer is the poor man version of Kyle Orton. Orton is a game manager, just as Dilfer was, and may lack some physical gifts that make QBs elite just as Dilfer did. But Kyle makes good decisions, is actually accurate and happens to be likable, as well. Dilfer fails (failed) miserably by all of those tests. Dilfer didn’t win a Super Bowl. The Tampa Defense won a Super Bowl in spite of Dilfer.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 7, 2010 6:27 AM CST up reply actions
And yet Dilfer’s ripping on the Bears for being a defense-driven team…
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
How Many Superbowl winning QBs have been dumped right after the win?
Trent Dilsuck.
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...

























