Should Weather be a Factor in the Super Bowl?
I know I'm not the only Bears fan that remembers the horrible weather conditions that plagued the Bears in Super Bowl XLI against the Colts. Seeing a game at risk of the same fate this year in the same stadium brought those terrible conditions back fresh to the mind, and actually caused me to think. Should weather ever be a factor in the Super Bowl, and if so what conditions are acceptable?
Everyone remembers that rainy day when we took a QB that had issues holding onto the ball and had him play on what amounts to a slip and slide. We've also all seen some absolutely terrible field conditions the past few years both at our very own Soldier Field, and across the league at places such as Heinz field for the infamous game that went splat and that was more of a sideshow attraction than a game of football.
Football has never been a game for the weak-willed or the thin-skinned, it's been the postal service of sports playing in rain, sleet, snow, ice, and mud; only stopping play for the occasional thunderstorm that poses a safety risk due to lightning strike. However, in the past ten years or so we've seen an absolute explosion of domes, as well as using the domes to manipulate the field of play. We've had stadiums with retractable domes that allow you to change the weather conditions depending on the opposition you're up against, we've had stadiums built to essentially amplify the crowd noise to make the home field advantage that much bigger, but one of the truths is that we've eliminated the weather from a good portion of the stadiums if those stadium owners so choose. You won't see games in the snow at these domed stadiums, nor will you see the field turned into a mud bog. You won't generally see a game played in fog so thick you can't tell where the ball is, and you won't see Santa getting pelted with ice.
Does this take something away from our game? If so, what about the transition from actual turf to field turf that has swept the league in all but a few select stadiums?
As far as my two cents on the subject go, I'd much rather see games played in the rain, snow, sleet, hail, and in freezing cold conditions that make an Antarctic expedition look like a stroll in the park. However, if the entire point of playing the game at a neutral field is to alleviate, if not eliminate, the home field advantage then it honestly doesn't make a single bit of sense to this fan to continue playing it in non-domed stadiums if we're also going to disallow any cold weather non-domed teams from having the game in the dead of winter.
I'm coming down on the all or nothing side of this one, make it a true neutral playing field if that's what you're going for. Field Turf + Closed Dome, or let's see Cutler throw a TD bomb in 20 degree weather with snow and wind.
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Even rugby matches get called off for blizzards and with the ground frozen solid. I’ve always felt that if a team can only play one way, under specific conditions, and can’t adapt then they don’t deserve to win.
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"I don’t care if Belichick wins twenty Super Bowls. He’s an asshole." - Da Coach
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
It does?
In high school, one of our rugby matches was in about a foot of snow. Do they really cancel them usually? I’m not calling you out, just asking. I’ve never had it cancelled here before… at least that I can remember…
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Feb 12, 2010 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
Yep, over here they’re cancelled if the ground is frozen (our unusually cold freeze just before Xmas messed up fixtures at Premiership, Magners League and Heineken Cup level – i.e. all the professional rugby) and very definitely if there’s a layer of snow. Hence, I admire NFL players going at it hammer and tongs in the middle of a blizzard, bare arms and all :-D
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"I don’t care if Belichick wins twenty Super Bowls. He’s an asshole." - Da Coach
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
That's really interesting.
I’m glad to know that. Thanks!
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Feb 12, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
So, next time there’s a foot of snow and you really don’t feel like kicking off in it… :-D
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"I don’t care if Belichick wins twenty Super Bowls. He’s an asshole." - Da Coach
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
do you throiw 60 yard passes in rugby?
by Ryan21 on Feb 14, 2010 9:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
do you throw 60 yard passes in rugby?
by Ryan21 on Feb 14, 2010 9:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No...
…because you have to throw laterally or behind you… but I don’t see how that matters, since we don’t, no one would run really far to catch it… which would be hard in snow.. but since we don’t do that, I didn’t know why they cancelled it.. Are you trying to get at something??
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Feb 14, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
I think all NFL games should be played in open stadiums, however...
That ain’t the trend because new stadiums are used for more than just football (most of them)
I find the whole concept of a home field advantage being conferred to a team due to weather in their home field to be weak at best, because NFL teams are not limited to drafting players from their home state. This means that on any given team you have players from a large number of various places in the US and even some from other countries. Each NFL team is a blend of players who have played in various weather conditions. I can’t see where there would be an advantage of one team over another with regard to weather. The condition of the field is another matter. You can draft teams based on the home field turf, whether it be natural grass or synthetic turf. Boggy or muddy natural grass or just bad sod like what you see in Soldier Field can affect a team drafted to play on synthetic turf, say for example a speed team as opposed to a power team. To me, the condition of the field is a separate issue from the weather in general. The field condition can be affected by other events that take place on the field between Sundays, not just the weather.
To get back to your question I think the weather should be a factor in the SB, but there are too many competing interests for this to happen. Too much money involved.
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
It is "Just another football game"
Football is played during the fall and part of the winter. Has been since the beginning. If politics isn’t a factor, all cities with a team should alternate getting the “Big Game”
That.......
is the right answer mister. It’ll never happen because of all the “super bowl” outdoor parties and media related special events. Might as well put it in hawaii every year so maybe some of the players will still go to the pro bowl.
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt". -Mark Twain
by pappabearhalas on Feb 12, 2010 1:28 AM CST up reply actions
It is fitting that a post tangentially talking about Grossman's slippery balls...
Is apparently being sponsored by KY.
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Weather is part of football and..
should always be part of football. I am more old school when it comes to things like that. Speaking of old school, I don’t really care for all the protection qb’s get these days either. I know, lots of money invested…so on and so forth. Just brings about too many ticky tac calls imo. If Butkus played today, he would probably be kicked out of the league. I never got to see him play, but plenty of footage when he did play. Great stuff!!
Walter Payton lives on!!!
Remember that game not too long ago...
when the wind at Soldier Field was so fricken bad that FG attempts took an immediate right turn. I thought that was hilarious. Looks like we’re running the ball today boys, lol. The fog bowl..couldn’t hardly see sh-t. Chicago will always be known for bad weather and football, I wouldn’t change a thing.
Walter Payton lives on!!!
by monsterman34 on Feb 11, 2010 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
yea against the niners
where vasher had his day in the sun. i remember being there and having to hold my beer out at a 45 degree angle to avoid it getting blown back onto me. the wife made me blow 60 bucks on one of those silly blankets because apparently somebody was a bit cold.
i like open stadiums too but someday there will be a lightning storm or some other act of god that f’s up the superbowl. i would bet that afterwards the powers that be would start going for a dome in a safer place.
by reefermadness3 on Feb 12, 2010 1:07 AM CST up reply actions
those beers are expensive...
don’t want to spill that. lol and my wife would have made me buy one of those to if i was lucky enough to be there.
Walter Payton lives on!!!
by monsterman34 on Feb 12, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
Is Ed "too tall" Jones too tall?
Does a big bag of flour make a really big biscuit?
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
It's all about playing in the elements
The open stadiums can make a difference in the games. Like Spongie said, if a team can’t adapt they don’t deserve to win.
by Sam Householder on Feb 12, 2010 12:37 AM CST reply actions
it is not always an advantage and i think it is exteremely overrated
Like when SF spanked the Bears in the NfC champ. Our current team is not built for slow or slippery surfaces and I think we were at a bigger disadvantge against the Colts in the SB. Maybe Benson and Rex don’t fumble and we win. It is unfair to give one team an advantage in the SB not because they are weak but because it negates their strengths. Such as passing or speed or a solid kicker (Gould) vs a bad one (a bunch this year).
by Ryan21 on Feb 12, 2010 5:03 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I've heard rumblings about
NY possibly having the Superbowl in 2014…pending the Mayans weren’t right, of course.
Weather plays into every other game, if you can’t handle the snow for the superbowl, you don’t belong in the superbowl, let alone the NFL
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Feb 12, 2010 5:40 AM CST reply actions
its not about not handling the snow
If you have a team with a strong rushing attack vs a strong passing attack, the passing team gets put at a disadvantage. I know teams have to be well rounded but if you can’t throw the ball down the field it limits what you can do.
by Ryan21 on Feb 12, 2010 7:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
all i'm saying is
if you can’t play in incliment weather… play baseball, come to win. if you can’t throw in the snow, good thing you have a running game, if that isn’t up to snuff, you obviously aren’t the better team
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Feb 12, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
If they were right?
What kind of catastrophic catastrophe,would end the world?
Since I’m a cub fan this is a rather light conversation to have.
101……(sighs)
The Cubs win the World Series...
…and fans go crazy, destroying the world… ?? :P
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Feb 12, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
I'd have to take your word for it about the world being destroyed...
my heart will have stopped beating long before the first window was broken!
who the heck knows
Cubs fan too… i was just highlighting that we may not have to worry about it anyways
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Feb 12, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Mayans
Well, the Mayans didn’t see the Spaniards coming, so that casts their whole prognostication veracity into doubt in my book. They were the Lovie Smith coaching staff of their day in that regard.
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
So what you're saying is...
The Mayans lost to the Spanish in the super bowl and then had three mediocre seasons after that :-)
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Feb 12, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Domed stadiums eere the first step in sissifying Pro football.
Hell yes weather should play a factor. It rewards teams that aren’t one-dimensional.
weather makes teams one-dimensional...
The most important sporting event of the year, and to some cities, EVER (New Orleans) shouldn’t be handicapped due to weather. When there is a salary cap, you cannot always be as balanced as you want to be.
by Ryan21 on Feb 12, 2010 10:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
But the issue is still that teams which are built to succeed one way and one way only are, by definition, one-dimensional. If they can implement plan B, kudos to them. If the luck of the draw (the weather) is such that both teams have to resort to smash-mouth football, that’s the way the cookie crumbles.
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"I don’t care if Belichick wins twenty Super Bowls. He’s an asshole." - Da Coach
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
This is all about one thing, the money involved
from sponsorships, to gambling (I know that comes as a big surprise, but, yes, people do bet on these games), to television advertisement. If you want to continue to see the NFL prosper and grow, you can’t expect the people running the event to chance a game turning on players falling down, balls slipping out of players hands, kicks being blown into the ocean, and no real way to handicap the outcome.
From a fan’s perspective, I really don’t want to see my team (I’m talking about organizations who actually try to get into the championship, not our current collection of management morons) work their rear ends off all year get to the promised land and have a mud bowl where the 2008 Lions would have a chance to beat the ‘85 Bears because of weather/element induced problems. That’s not what a 16 game season and a playoff system should come down to.
As far as “sissifying” the game, as someone mentioned, which do you think is tougher, getting hit by a Ray Lewis who has a full head of steam on dry turf or by that same Ray Lewis having to tiptoe on ice or mud so he doesn’t fall down trying stop you?
Personally, I want to see the supposed best two teams play each other at their best so there are no excuses when the champion is crowned.
You're right. With all the money involved oddsmakers want to eliminate any and all uncontrolable factors before setting the point differential.
I keep forgetting, neither the game nor it’s fans are important, it’s television and Vegas. I guess I’m just old school and like to see teams have to adjust their schemes and game plans. But considering Lovie would have to do the adjusting for the Bears, if they were to miraculously make the SB this year, I can see the point of playing under perfect conditions. Gametime adjustments are not something for which this team has shown little ability
by BigGeorgeTX on Feb 12, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Gametime adjustments are something for which this team has shown little ability.
I wish this had an edit function.
by BigGeorgeTX on Feb 12, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
not Arena League
If you can’t handle the conditions, then go to the Arena League!
[yes, I know the league went bust, but the point stands. there’s always indoor futball (soccer)].
The SB should be rotated around to each stadium in the league (well, maybe not to the dome teams). Why should Miami and New Orleans get 90% of all the SB games!?
by MakeHalasProud on Feb 12, 2010 10:44 AM CST reply actions
That's right
The NFL is all about sharing the revenue between teams…so either share the Super Bowl revenue equally between the 32 teams or set up a schedule to allow all 32 teams host the game.
You could even make the SB results an insentive. The winning team could get their scheduled SB host year bumped up 3 years sooner or something…thus making it more important for all 32 teams to try to put a competitive team on the field to expedite the frequency of hosting the “The Big Game”
The only reason they go to warm weather cities is for the parties…you can’t tell me that NYC is going to be much warmer than a balmy 28 degrees in Feb. So there is no reason that Chicago, Green Bay, Buffalo, or even Minneapolis(even if they get an open air stadium) can’t host the Super Bowl. Why is it that two cold-weather open-aired stadiums can host NFC or AFC championship games, but the Superbowl has to be played in a dome or in a warm-weather stadium?
The only other way to make it “fair” is to play the game at a neutral site like Honolulu, Vegas, Rose Bowl, etc.
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Feb 12, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
The Rose Bowl? A neutral site?
Yeah, I suppose so – as long as the California teams aren’t contending.
All right. I guess it’s safe for a while longer. Haha.
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The glass is more than half-full.
A domed field is not a "true neutral" field.
To those teams that don’t have domes.
I don’t think there’s a such thing as a true neutral.
But I’m all for the games being outside. The colder, the better.
They are men, they can play in the rain.
And if you have a Dome stadium, at least make the roof retractable.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand band-wagoner fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
I know how George Halas would lean on this.
Bring on the weather.
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The glass is more than half-full.

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