Chicago Bears Roster Turnover: Offensive Line
Finally we get to the position group I feel was mostly responsible for the Bears ails this past season. I truly believe if you can get the trenches figured out your entire offense will fall into place. The big uglies should be the backbone of any team, but in 2009 there were just too many inconsistencies along the offensive line. Continuity, stability, and familiarity are so important to the success of the line, and the Bears just didn't have it. Playing your LT at RT, a converted RT at LG, a newly signed RT backing up at LT then finally moving over to start at RT, replacing the converted RT at LG for a few games then putting him back at LG, trying to squeeze some more juice out of a Hall Of Fame LT, then shifting your RT back over to LT.
Only the C and RG were left alone, but not one member of the Bears offensive line had what they would call a good year. Is an overhaul in order, or will simply another year working together fix their troubles?
OFFENSIVE LINE - With so many new faces playing in new places along the line I wasn't surprised with the unusually high amount of penalties. Getting your players comfortable with their positions can take more than an off season. If you break the huddle and you are having to think about your assignments rather than it being second nature, you are bound to make some mental mistakes. This especially holds true on the offensive line, where your assignments can change on the exact same play depending on how the defense lines up. Towards the end of the season the line started playing better, my eyes told me that, but statistic wise it was true as well. Pointed out here by MuleTrain.
Olin Kreutz - Signed through 2010 - With the way Kreutz challenged the front office a few months ago I wouldn't be surprised if he were cut. I do think it's highly unlikely considering the way the line started to come together towards the end of the season, and you can not discount what the veteran brings to the unit. So what if he's getting by on experience and guile, he never was a power blocker anyway. I've broke down games and I just don't see his play as bad as many make it out to be. Most centers have trouble with the giant DT's and NT's in the league. He's a technique player (always has been) that isn't driving defensive lineman off the ball ala Nick Mangold, but he's the best the Bears have at center right now. If the best Kreutz can be is an average player, I'll take his knowledge of defensive fronts, his ability to make all the calls at the line of scrimmage, and his attitude on my line any day. You need that S.O.B on your offensive line that will take exception if a defender roughs up one of your players. He'll be back at center in 2010. And who knows, after this most recent procedure on his ankle, maybe he'll gain some more leverage at the point of attack.
Roberto Garza - Signed through 2011 - Garza is a solid pro. He'll never be in a Pro Bowl, but he won't hurt your line either. He's a tick above average as far as guards in the NFL go. He can play center in a pinch, and I see no reason why he won't be back on the right side again next year.
Frank Omiyale - Signed through 2012 - Omiyale will go into 2010 as the starting left guard. And I'm OK with that. His physical play improved as the year wore on, and as soon as he stops thinking so much his mental mistakes will go down. The Bears will no doubt explore free agent options on the OL, and if a quality left guard becomes available, they may entertain letting Omiyale compete for the right tackle position.
Kevin Shaffer - Signed through 2011 - He didn't look very comfortable in his time at left tackle, and he struggled when he was named a starter at right tackle. But like the rest of the line, as the year wound down, his play got better. His price tag ($1 million) isn't out of line for a swing tackle if a better player is found to start at RT, but with the way he ended up I wouldn't be surprised if the Bears are fine with him going into camp as the starting RT.
Chris Williams - Signed through 2012 - His familiarity on the left side was evident as soon as he made the switch back to his natural position. Hindsight is always 20/20, but he really should have been there from the start. Imagine if Pace was never signed the line would have been able to work through their growing pains earlier in the season, and may have actually gelled around mid year. I expect Williams to continue improving, and barring injury, he'll be the LT for the next seven, eight years.
Orlando Pace - Signed through 2011 - He's due a total of nearly $10 million the next couple years, but his contract was such that cutting him wouldn't effect the cap much. (That is if there is a salary cap next year.) He's clearly not going to be a starter at this point in his career and there really is no point of holding on to a back up at that salary. He's gone.
Josh Beekman - Signed through 2010 -Beekman, arguably one of the most popular Bears in the threads, has improved since his rookie year, but not enough to beat out anyone on the roster. He's never received a chance you say...Well he did start the entire year at guard in 2008 and while not terrible, he didn't do enough to keep the Bears from signing his replacement. I like Beekman in his current role, backing up at guard and center, and it appears the Bears do as well.
Lance Louis - Signed through 2012 - Honestly I was surprised he made the final roster. The Bears must have seen enough potential to keep him around, so my guess is he'll be around in 2010 as well, but I wouldn't be surprised either way. Louis is an athletic 6'2" 300 pounder, that was just raw technique wise. Maybe he'll develop and be a surprise at camp. I saw some time at tackle in preseason, but I think his future is at guard.
James Marten - Signed an undisclosed contract - Former 3rd round draft pick of Dallas, Marten was activated from the practice squad in December and will be in camp battling for a roster spot. He's been around a few teams as a pro and he has the size that will always open up some doors (6'8" 310). Maybe another year working with the Bears strength and conditioning coaches and he'll do enough to be a serious threat at RT.
Johan Asiata - Signed a reserve/futures contract - Here another guy that will be given an opportunity in camp.
Donovan Raiola - Contract undisclosed -Raiola was signed to the practice squad in October and finished up the season there. He could be in camp fighting for a roster spot.
2010 OL OUTLOOK - I think the Bears are happy with the group they finished out the season with. I fully expect them to go into training camp with the same depth chart as it stands now. You can find good offensive lineman in the later rounds, so expect the Bears to draft at least one. Ideally they'd like to add a quality interior lineman to push the incumbents. Finding a replacement for Kreutz should be something addressed as he enters the final year of his contract. While the popular consensus is that Josh Beekman will be that guy, I think the Bears would like to add another C/G to the mix, but if a highly rated RT falls to them I can see them snatching him up. And as usual a couple undrafted free agents will come in for a look.
If they choose to go the free agent route (which has been hit or miss with Jerry Angelo so far) there should be some solid candidates out there. If the CBA is settled, look for guards Jahri Evans, Saints, and Logan Mankins, Patriots, to be unrestricted free agents. But both will come at a premium and/or end up tagged by their current team. After spending big on the line last season, I'd be surprised with a big splash in '10.
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williams
I think williams will have a good career but not pro bowl worthy.
Jon Dove
with its current format,
I’d be willing to bet he makes the Pro Bowl at least one year.
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by David Taylor on Feb 2, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
If he plays like he did after Pace got hurt at LT,
he might make it next season?
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Feb 2, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
I think williams will get a probowl or two barring any injures to him
I think if Logan Mankins(i know i know i say this on every oline post) is on the market the bears need to go after him. Signing him would sure the Oline on the left side and then you would have omiyale and Shaffer competing for the right tackle spot.
Look at all the teams that can pound the ball they have a LG that is road grader Minnesota has Big Steve and the Jets have Faneca thats what i beleive would defnitly help this line and now with martz running the offense i beleive the Line must be helped right away
it's looking like the CBA won't be agreed upon
so Makins will stay in NE.
And looking back, don’t we all wish JA would have signed Faneca!!
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 2, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Hope We Find Some Gems
in the later rounds of the draft. There’s tons of feel could stories about late round picks which turn out to be gold. Hopefully Tice and Martz will have a positive effect on Jerry’s draft selections.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
If Jahri Evans hits the market...
We should pull out all the stops to get him. He’s a pro bowl calber guard and signing him would instantly turn our biggest weakness at any one individual position into a strength. That would also allow omiyale to compete for the RT job, potentially solving that problem as well. Being an uncapped year, I don’t see any reason not to go balls to the wall after him.
There's very little chance he hits the open market though.
He will be franchised, or if they use that tag on someone else, then transition tagged. In the uncapped year teams get to use both not either/or. The Bears don’t have the draft picks to compensate NO for signing him then. Even if they don’t tag him, he will be restricted anyway since he doesn’t have 6 years in the NFL, NO can match any offer he receives. It, unfortunately, can’t be done.
by Mike Mueller on Feb 2, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Wasn't John tait a transition tag guy?
And didn’t we get him without surrendering draft picks because we gave him a big enough contract that KC was unwilling to match? Why couldn’t something similar happen here?
I think they didn't match because KC didn't have the cap room;
with no salary cap, that’s not a problem for NO. What I don’t know about, is whether the “poison pill” things in contracts is still allowed. IIRC Minny got Steve Hutchinson because they put something in there that made the entire contract guaranteed if he plays 4+ more games in a season in the state of Washington. This couldn’t happen while on the Vikings, but would obviously happen if Seattle matched the deal. I can’t remember if the NFL agreed to eliminate this practice.
Good point
And btw, I think the thing with Hutchinson was that the vikings included a clause saying that Hutchinson would get a massive bonus if he wasn’t the highest paid o-lineman on the roster. Of course, Seattle was paying Walter Jones big bucks at the time, so they couldn’t match the offer.
Looked it up
The thing was that if Hutchinson wasn’t the highest paid lineman, his entire contract would’ve become guaranteed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_pill
and scroll down to sports.
Mike Tice will have his hands full...
Williams at LT and Garza at RG might be the only guys who aren’t potential liabilities on our 2010 OL.
Omiyale showed good improvement at LG, but his natural position is RT… I’d love to see him move to RT and hunker down there for a few years. Only problem with that is that Beekman is the only other Guard… definitely a liablity.
The only thing Beekman has going for him is that he is young, and could still develop some good technique. If anyone is the man for that job, it’s Tice. Beekman isn’t that strong, and hasn’t shown an aggressive instinct… technique might be his only saving grace.
And maybe, just maybe Kreutz had a down 2009 year due to an injury. Hopefully, we’ll get another complete season out of him… the only other Center on the roster is… Beekman.
Sending condolences and peaceful thoughts to the family and community of Gaines Adams.
So Martz and Cutler go out to eat for steaks & pasta, & then classroom time.
what does the Tice/Omiyale dinner summit look like?
by Mike Mueller on Feb 2, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
They go for
burgers and fries, and then Omiyale watches a movie by himself cause Tice already resold his ticket.
by Chi-City on Feb 2, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Guard
is the least of my concerns, cause the Bears can draft a potential starter in rounds 3-5. RT is the biggest issue here, and wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a “sore spot” for the line this up coming season.
Here’s a somewhat troubling JA quote:
Our roster is pretty well set," Angelo said. "We don’t have the first two picks in the draft. Free agency potentially will be very limited. It’s not like we won’t look for players like we do every year, but we’re not going into this thinking we have to have an overhaul with our offense.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
I hope you are right about the draft...
but right now we’ve got one guy (Omiyale) for two positions (LG and RT).
Sending condolences and peaceful thoughts to the family and community of Gaines Adams.
come on Dane
You know you LOVE Kevin Shaffer!
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 2, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Any Angelo quote
is usually troubling to me but finding, say, one OL be it a T or G in FA isn’t exactly an overhaul. I’m pretty sure he adds someone in FA . Let’s hope it’s more of a “J. Tait” or “R. Brown” as opposed to…well…you know.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
by spleensplitter on Feb 2, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
ProBowl Player
Heck, I think they called him this year and he didn’t feel like spending three hours on a plane for the game… Didn’t they call every player in the league to find enough people willing to show up for it?
Rumor has it
that John Tait and Ruben Brown declined Pro Bowl invitations.
Sending condolences and peaceful thoughts to the family and community of Gaines Adams.
Well if your not happy with the Bears so far this offseason
Check out the Bulls they have turned their season around. Also made history this season. And Lovie should take notes from Vinny on how to motivate a team and improve its performance. Da Bulls are back with a very young team.
I voted yes BTW
I figure with the right coaching he can be a probowler. When we get the right coaching is still the question. But before his career with the Bears is over he will be a probowler.
Sorry butt signing Pace, Omiyale, and Shaffer was neither "spending big" nor a big splash
Signing a has been, a RT to play LG and a below average RT was the Bears trying to be clever and thinking they are smarter then everybody else. Why pay for guys like Alan Faneca or Jahri Evans when you can sign the Omiyales of the world for much cheaper? Other than the fact that they actually block opposing defenders that is.
The OLine is another example of getting what you pay for in this league and the Bears do not want to pay anybody.
Here is to hoping and praying Mike Tice can get the scrubs on our OLine to perform beyond their capabilities, just like Rod improved our DLine….
really...
because at the time, most everyone thought signing all 3 was good.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 2, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
signing guys is a positive, but
nobody thought they’d be great.
so f'ing what...
1. Just because a lot of people on here believe something does not make it true.
2. Clearly people who thought that were wrong.
Not even relying on hindsight so save that as an attempt to justify BAD moves.
oh...
the Pace signing now looks to be bad, but at the time it was widely regarded as a solid signing. As was picking up Shaffer and Omiyale, not huge name pickups, but guys to come in and compete. There were very few people (here, there, “experts”, or novices) that didn’t like the moves. Shaffer was a replacement for another swing tackle in John St. Claire.
Jerry Angelo has paid for his O-Line, the SB line that was regarded as an above average unit, were all free agents except Kreutz. He tried to hit on 3 more this off season and so far the results aren’t very good. Pace will be cut, Shaffer may be best suited as a swing tackle, and Omiyale started to come around at LG as the year wound down. I’d prefer him at RT, but I don’t think that will happen.
And your 2 bullets points are correct, but not on point…
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 2, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
I was pretty optimistic
about the Pace signing, agree that most people seemed to be. When we signed Omiyale, I had no idea who he was but it looked good after reading about him.
The Shaffer signing ticked me off. Personally I thought we were better off with St. Claire as a swing tackle. Since we really just swapped the two with the Browns. St. Claire though not a great tackle, seems like he is as good as Shaffer and already knew our system.
Signing Pace looked good...
If it NEVER occurred to you that the Rams were letting him go for a reason.
It seemed,
at the time. There was a chance were conceding the fact that they weren’t going to have a good year as they were rebuilding. Rebuilding around someone Pace’s age didn’t make sense. Better to put the young guys in as they will learn the system for when management wasn’t going to be conceding any games.
At least that is what I told myself :)
Personally, I had only hoped that Pace could play
an entire season at an average level.
As for Shaffer, it concerned me that the Browns preferred John Friggin St. Clair over him.
And for Omiyale, he was stuck as a backup in Carolina to an All-World OLineman… we heard that around 10 teams were interested in Omiyale, so his signing here just brought up some “Hmmm” moments.
I can’t speak for the masses… that was just how I had felt about those three.
Sending condolences and peaceful thoughts to the family and community of Gaines Adams.
my thoughts exactly.
it would seem that signing a quality O-lineman is about as safe of an investment you can make in football. sure, you will likely overpay, but that is the price for not being able to develop anyone yourself.
Andy Heck
Blake Brockermeyer
John Tait
anyone can look brilliant in hindsight
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by lookingdeadred on Feb 2, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
I don't recall
many people being excited about the Omiyale signing. Most people said “who?”, and then after reading about how he didn’t have a true position and was so “dominant” that the Panthers traded into the first round to draft a replacement for him said “why?”.
I don’t recall people being excited about Shaffer either. He’s a swing tackle.
Most liked the Pace signing, since they thought a change of PAce might get him interested in playing hard again, but to be honest that signing was so overshadowed by the Cutler trade on the same day that it’s hard to say people were excited about that either.
DEJESUS!!!
true...
no one was excited for those 2 lesser known players, but no one was against them either. Then after looking into the players, most thought they were solid moves.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 2, 2010 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Right
It would be great to sign every available superstar in FA but also very unrealistic, if not impossible. The guys in mention were certainly upgrades. I can live with that strategy.
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"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
by spleensplitter on Feb 2, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
The coaches, and probably most of us, were a little uneasy about essentially having a LT with no real NFL experience protecting Cutler’s blindside. For that alone, the Pace signing wasn’t one I had a problem with at the time.
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It's a hit and miss
Remember how everyone thought Mark Columbo (bears pick) and Leonard Davis were busts? Dallas signed em and Columbo has been a very solid starter for them and Davis has been going to the Pro Bowl….You never know..But they had been playing well late in the season..im hoping all of you bashing every move the Bears make have to eat your words next year…Not that you would mind since it means the Bears are winning
At the time,
I thought that signing Pace and Schaffer was good, really really good. However, I never bought into Omiyale. Funny thing is, he may be the one that eventually does work out.
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I would like to see them bring in at least one FA on the OL.
Logan Mankins, 28 yr.‘s old – OG from NE. If it is possible for them to get him, spend the money necessary, and sign him. I saw a couple other names on the OL FA list…Willie Colon, 27 yr.’s old – RT, Pittsburgh… don’t know much about him? Daryn Colledge, 28 yr.‘s old – OG from GB… don’t know if this guy sucks since he was a cheesehead on a pretty sorry OL? I sure hope they get some help, we need it.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Feb 2, 2010 2:53 PM CST reply actions
This seems way too optimistic to me.
I have a hard time believing that by simply shuffling players around the Bears went from having one of the worst lines in the league to an average-ish one. The Bears need to sign at least one lineman through free agency and probably two. They should go get someone to start at RT, and let Shaffer be the swing tackle. If they can sign another guy to play LG, that’s even better. That would give the team three solid backups (Shaffer, Omiyale, and Beekman) and an improved starting line.
The bottom line is Cutler needs time to throw. Putting Williams at LT instead of Pace will help this tremendously, but they still need someone to play RT.
Omiyale was a pretty decent LG by season's end
If they sign a true OG, then you can move Omiyale to his natural position RT, and Shaffer is the backup to Williams and Omiyale. Either way, Omiyale should start. I am hoping they get an OG and Omiyale goes out to RT where he is best suited. Williams will be solid if not good to very good. Garza is fine. That leaves the center spot. I am not a big fan of Kreutz being the starter any more as I think he is too old, too small and too easily pushed around. But maybe, just maybe, the foot surgery will allow him to be as effective as he was a few years ago. If not, Beekman needs to play.
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by lookingdeadred on Feb 2, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
They were a lot better at the end of the season,
that is promising. I think you are right about getting two OL. If they can pick up one in FA and one in the draft, that would be nice.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Feb 2, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
The problem I have with the...
“they looked a lot better at the end of the season” argument is sample size. What if they just strung together a few hot games? Or a few lucky games? Or a few games against opponents not playing at their best?
I think it’s generally bad practice to plan futures based on small samples. Football sample sizes are pretty small as it is, and if you limit the sample to just a few games it exacerbates the problem.
That said, it does give me hope for the line being better. I’d just rather bank on something more solid than just hope.
by shawndgoldman on Feb 2, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
One player to replace Olin ......
………….. Eric Olsen from Notre Dame . This kid has a nasty streak and reminds me of a young Olin .
Uhhhh, you ever heard of Josh Beekman?
Rumor has it that Tice is working to clone Beeks, so that he can have him start at every position on the line.
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Sorry .........
…………. I just can’t see Beekman as our everyday starter at center .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 2, 2010 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah,
I was just joshin ya.
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wilt
I can agree with most of your post, and it is well written and thought out as usual, however, I’ve noticed that you always say this about Kreutz anytime he is a topic of conversation: “Most centers have trouble with the giant DT’s and NT’s in the league. He’s (Kreutz) a technique player (always has been)”
My thought about that statement is, So? Granted. Point taken. Is that meant to somehow absolve Kreutz? We all know that Kreutz is undersized even for a center. Check out the rosters, he is probably the smallest starting center in the NFL. He doesn’t have what it takes precisely because of the size of the NT and DT he is facing and will be facing more of in the future, Sure, he is probably the best we’ve got but Beekman deserves a closer look.
As for his surgical procedure helping him out, maybe..but keep in mind it was a bone spur not a bad achilles tendon. Probably won’t make a lick of difference in his performance on the field. I hope so, though.
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all I know is I've broke down his play
and he’s not as bad as most fans make it out to be.
The few websites that breakdown o-line play don’t have him as bad either. He’s about average. And I’ll take average with all the other things he can bring to the field.
The thing is that Bears fans see Kruetz get blown back a few times a game by the Vikings and immediately jump to the conclusion that he sucks… what about the other 90% of the plays where he blocked good against the Willaims Wall? Playing the offensive line you ONLY get spotlighted if you make a mistake. Why not spotlight the defensive linemen on every play where thet get blocked?
And yes he is smallish at only 292 pounds, where the average starter at C may be closer to 310.
But until there is someone on the roster that is better, trying to get rid of him is foolish.
Would I want to see a better C, yes, as I would like to see upgrades at every single position on the team. It’s not my call to make. But all I pointed out above is what I think the Bears will do in 2010. Angelo makes the calls, not me.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 3, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
a post on offensive line without a mention of Mike Tice
what impact on the OL roster do peeps see Mike Tice having?
someone mentioned he likes Beekman – got to be a good thing if he can develop the potential of youth here… ?
what about his impact on the other guys? – i dont know much about Tice’s tendencies
personally i would be very disapointed in management if no free agent or high (for us) draft pick is used on the OL – a standout LG and shifting omiyale back to RT could be a nice fix, with Beeks backing up the interior and developing ready to take over Kreutz at end of season.
I think he'll have a positive impact
he is a well respected OL coach around the league, but I still don’t see the Bears going out and getting a FA. Ideally I’d love Omiyale at RT with a LG brought in, but it’d surprise me if they did that.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 4, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions

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