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...where we have won more gold medals than any other Bears website in history.

2010 ticket prices revealed recently... how do you feel about this?

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In a perfect world

We would field 21 defensive ends and Jay Cutler.

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

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by Kev H on Feb 22, 2010 7:28 AM CST reply actions  

3 people could possibly give urlacher a run

Mike brown
Olin Kreutz
Lance Briggs
I’m a huge urlacher and I think he earned bears player of the decade……..FAShooooo

by Bear Lovin 21 on Feb 22, 2010 9:29 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Mike Brown?

Maybe if he stayed healthy.His impact on games in his first three years can’t be questioned. Briggs without Urlacher still produced but didn’t really assume more of a leadership role with #54 out of action. Now, Urlacher without Briggs would be different. I guess because Urlacher playing in the middle, He’s just able to make more plays. Bottom line is who else but Urlacher? Nobody.

by Big Ike on Feb 22, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

All things considered, yeah it's undisputed.

Urlacher.
The overall body of work speaks for itself.
Kreutz has been good but not dominant at his position.
Brown was not healthy for a long enough time.
Briggs, well he is a fine weakside linebacker but he does not have “it” and was the archetype of a player that produces but does not inspire his team mates.
Yeah it’s subjective.

"I am not an animal!" - Merrick

by Maelvampyre on Feb 22, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

Givin’ up the Izzy Love!

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 23, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

What a mess.

Love when a team that hasn’t made the playoffs for 3 years and pocketed cap money last year instead of using it on players has the audacity to raise ticket Prices. Please donate to the McCaskey Relief Fund, if you doubted how Kanye was distributing the money for Haiti you will be even more dismayed at how this organization pockets money. (SEE organization worth $1.1 BILLION refuses to pay the $1.5 million needed for a decent NFL playing surface).

On that note Teddy says the Bears won’t go “hog wild” in free agency. 1. No shift Sherlock. To get good players in free agency you have to spend money, for that reason good free agents are like kryptonite to this team. 2. BUT we have no 1st or second round pick which means that not only will they not improve through the draft, but don’t expect much from free agency either. Rebuilding with 6th round draft pick and undrafted free agents, again. Makes sense cause it is only a $1.1 BILLION organization so any fan expecting them to pay $ for good players is a fool.

Dickersons List: 1. It has no Kam Chancellor or Toby Gerhart so this list pretty much sucks. 2. This stupid team is going to draft another DE in the 3rd (with our 1st pick), it is inevitable. 3. Riley Cooper is going to be a great pro and would be a steal for us in the 3rd (especially compared to our newest red shirt DE whoever that may be).

by No It All on Feb 22, 2010 9:47 AM CST reply actions  

With regards to the field

That’s an ongoing argument between the parks district and the team. I can’t shake the feeling that if the stadium was the Bears to use outright, that they’d probably have done it. But why pay the 1.5 if you can get someone else to do it?

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

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by Kev H on Feb 22, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

While I understand both of these points

You and I are both spending Other People’s Money. I can’t say that if I wasn’t in charge of the Bears, I’d still be like “OH DEFINITELY DO IT” because I’m not sure I would.

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Feb 22, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Cost/Benefit

How mush does it cost the team when on their high priced athletes tears up his knee because of the crap-ass field?

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by phastphil on Feb 22, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Most part I agree

but Phillips is not going to give away the team’s plan for free-agency (if there is one that is). If they don’t go after Kampman or Peppers or another decent, veteran DE then they’re more stupid than we ever believed and will suffer a similar fate to Marinelli/Martz’s Lions.

"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach

by propheteer on Feb 22, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Occam's Razor my friend

The simplest answer is usually the correct one. They have no plan. They are happy with a nucleus that has not accomplished anything for 3 years. There is no wizard behind the curtain. There isn’t even a curtain, he is straight up saying last years roster will be this years roster.

by No It All on Feb 22, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

We'll see

Most likely you’re probably correct, but they have a huge hole at DE. I cannot fathom a scenario where a rookie 3rd or 4th rounder comes in and makes an impact. The defense can’t survive with Brown, Anderson, and Melton as their rotation. I suppose they can bring back Ogun and trot out the same ol same ol.

"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach

by propheteer on Feb 22, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Under normal circumstances, I'd really like Kampman but...

it usually takes a good 18 – 24 months to come back fully from knee surgery so I’d stay away since there’s at least a 50/50 chance we could have a new coaching staff in place a year from now. If that is case and the new group is in favor of a 3-4 defensive scheme, Kampman has the same issue he has with Green Bay.

by BearFan611 on Feb 22, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

One-year deal

If that’s the case 18-24 months (Brady did it in less than 12 months), then he’ll come cheap without a long-term commitment.

"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach

by propheteer on Feb 22, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

QB is different since he doesn't have to go "all out" physically on every play.

A speed rush guy, DB, RB, etc. can really be affected by the weakness of the joint and it can impact their game until it’s completely healed and at full strength again. I just think we could spend the money more efficiently since we’re “not going Hog Wild” on a player who can be more productive immediately.

by BearFan611 on Feb 22, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Sure

Less demand for a QB, but many players come back after an ACL tear in one-year’s time and can contribute. My point is he may come relatively cheap because of his status. There’s no reason the Bears can’t take a “flyer” on him; place him on the PUP list or IR if he’s not ready to go at the start of the season.

"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach

by propheteer on Feb 22, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Phillips says suck it Bears fans
“We’re not going to be one of those handful of teams sometimes that just goes hog wild in free agency,” said Phillips, who said a looming lockout in 2011 didn’t affect the budget. “I think you guys know our strategy has always been kind of balanced in free agency and work through the draft and every other area to try to add players to the team. It’s not all about free agency. I think the reality that teams’ success, at least in the NFL, is not based on how much money you spend in free agency.”

that alone should tell any Bear fan that we’re not doing a damn thing during free agency. that we’ll continue with lowball offers to high value players, and will be content to sign the Mark Bradley’s of the NFL and over pay them.

by junkhorse on Feb 22, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

It's so Reinsdorfian

Finish 2nd for a free agent or coach and make sure Everyone knows how much you “tried”.

by Mike Mueller on Feb 22, 2010 9:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ticked about the ticket price raise.

As he stated they are more concerned about making money. He claims to make a competitive championship team. But apparently they haven’t watched a game since 2006. If winning was as important to them as money we would have one of the best teams in the league. This is just a slap in the face to the fans who used their hard earned money to get a billboard to get a change to the team that we all here love.

by Daseabeez on Feb 22, 2010 11:23 AM CST reply actions  

I would counter...

Did they truly believe the purchase of a billboard would affect the choices of the top brass of a multi-million dollar corporation?

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Feb 22, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't think it would work.

Just saying is this really the year to raise the prices. Maybe the top brass wants to make everyone hate ted more so when they fire him after this season.

by Daseabeez on Feb 22, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Well they didn't raise them last year.

And is there really a question how much the fanbase doesn’t like Ted?

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Feb 22, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I am pissed about ticket prices

now my tickets are going to be 125 each but what is even worse is paying the full boat for those damn preseason games

" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-

by tfrabotta on Feb 22, 2010 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

The Bears are looking at drafting a f—-ing tackle in the 3rd round! WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Especially if they are not going to go “hog wild” in FA. This is just a joke. Perhaps they could get a DT, DE, FS, WR, CB and RB BEFORE wasting another pick on a RT prospect that will NOT show any dividend this season. This season will be UGLY fi this is the “thinking” around Hallas Hall. Mike Tice cannot mine diamonds from sh-t! I need a drink.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Feb 22, 2010 11:28 AM CST reply actions  

Great...

now Wilfork is gone, linky.

Next up…Peppers or Kampman…

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Feb 22, 2010 2:12 PM CST reply actions  

i agree

might be worth exploring.. hes still got some gas left in the tank as ling as he doesnt want the farm in pay

by achilles10 on Feb 22, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

JUST DREAMING

IT WOUILD BE NICE IF THE BEARS WERE SMART THIS YEAR DURING FREE AGENCY, IF THEY WANT A QUICK FIX AS THEY SAY THEY DO THAN THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PLAYERS WORTH GETTING. LT STILL HAS SOMETHING IN THE TANK WHICH YOU COULD USE HIM AND FORTE IN THE BACKFIELD AND CREATE OUR OWN THUNDER AND LIGHTENING. i KNOW TERRELL OWENS HAS SOME ISSUES BUT HE STILL A GOOD PLAYER AND WE NEED SOMEBODY PROVEN TO HELP CUTLER. WITH LT, FORTE, TO AND OLSEN AT HIS DISPOSAL CUTLER WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE. OUR DEFENSE WITH THE ADDITION OF PEPPERS WOULD JUST BE PLAN NASTY. A HEALTHY URLACHER, BRIGGS ALONG WITH A FRONT FOUR THAT INCLUDED PEPPPERS, A HEALTHY HARRIS WOULD BE AWESOME. I KNOW IM DREAMING BUT IF THE BEARS ARE RAISING TICKET PRICES TO GET PLAYERS LIKE THIS I WOULD NOT MIND ONE BIT TO PAY FOR TICKETS. BUT I KNOW THIS IS A DREAM BUT HEY WE CAN ALL DREAM.

by Champs on Feb 22, 2010 6:56 PM CST reply actions  

I DON'T KNOW

WHAT WE’RE YELLING ABOUT!

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Feb 22, 2010 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

You only need to post this once,

people will see it even if it’s on another thread. :]

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by Ashley Czuba on Feb 23, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Using the new power and laying down the hammer! LOL

" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-

by tfrabotta on Feb 23, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol, well

I read all the new comments… so I see it when people post the same things multiple times, especially when it’s this memorable because of the caps… lol

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by Ashley Czuba on Feb 23, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Keep up the good work!

" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-

by tfrabotta on Feb 24, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

grrrr

i get not going " hog wild " in free agency from that buffoon phillips but you have got to fill spots/ needs.. i mean look at the redskins all that dough and no playoffs.. they need a football minded GM not a pencil neck who cant evaluate talent or free agents!!! go out and spend some money if your going to raise ticket prices and get creative if you have to trade and yes olsen should be an option to trade.. the guys over rated.. get a RB FS AND BE DONE!! the chi fans deserve it!!!

by achilles10 on Feb 22, 2010 9:53 PM CST reply actions  

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