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Monday Musings: What's the Bears biggest need?

Wcg_thumb_poll_medium We've had this discussion pop-up on approximately eleventy billion (give or take a few) threads now, and I wanted to take a moment to set this up as the definitive "This is what the Bears need" thread.

So here's the place. Put your ideas to "paper", voice your opinions, let the internet world know that you know how to make it better, and you have a bright idea.

Also--keep it civil. Have fun kids!

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What is the Chicago Bears absolute biggest need?
Defensive End
201 votes
Offensive Guard
179 votes
Offensive Tackle
167 votes
Cornerback
47 votes
Free Safety
256 votes
Running Back
14 votes
Wide Receiver
72 votes
Other
19 votes

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DE = biggest need

DE is definitely my biggest concern with this team.

Our O showed signs of improvement late in the year. Plus, we’ve got a lot of young talent on that side of the ball – they should improve with that extra year of experience.

However, the D regressed . . . for the 3rd year in a row. The D has gone from great to below average. All of our best players on D are past their prime (with the possible exception of Briggs).

While a FS would be nice, a pass rush improves everything on D. Therefore, a DE is our biggest need (in my opinion).

by MakeHalasProud on Feb 22, 2010 7:07 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed

Without a good end getting pressure to the quarterback any team can quickly dissect our already spotty secondary

by Gnice1 on Feb 22, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't get pressure without a DE ?

Linebackers, safeties, corners .. they can’t blitz and put pressure on the QB ? It has to be a DE ? Why ? We’re looking at roster priorities here and DE isn’t one of them. FS / LG / RT/ WR – these are positions of concern above DE ….

by Irish Bears Fan on Feb 23, 2010 2:00 AM CST up reply actions  

DE is number one.

We have no starting left DE on the roster. Mark Anderson doesn’t count. Ogunleye is gone. If all you do is blitz, that leave the rest of an already weak secondary even more exposed. The Cover-2 defense that Lovie insists the Bears run, needs to have the front 4 get to the QB. Brown doesn’t do that, Harris doesn’t do that anymore. A top DE is just what this defense needs to succeed. LINK

by Mike Mueller on Feb 23, 2010 7:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, but I voted FS. We have a million DL on the roster, half of whom can play DE (allegedly) and some of whom need to step it up ‘cos my gran could log more sacks and she’s been in her grave 13 years, but only one FS and his name is – cue drumroll – Josh Bullocks. Yay.

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"if we need it, we’re not drafting it. not high anyway. look for Angelo to go after a DL/DE – because that’s just the kind of asshat he is.." - junkhorse
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Feb 23, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

And that's the whole thing with DE

How are we going to get an opening day starter at DE with a 3rd round pick? If our most glaring need is DE then we need to do it via Free Agency. Not to mention our two red shirts last year, either give them the playing time or toss em on the practice squad. It’s not doing us any good to just twittle our thumbs and hope one of the million DE prospects we draft in the 3rd or higher will actually pan out for us now.

I said it once and i’ll say it again, If Lovie wants to fill the DE role he knows who he has to go after, it’s time to get aggressive. Either do that or just resign Ogun and call it a day.

by Chitownproduct on Feb 24, 2010 1:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed as well

His name is Julius Peppers and he’ll cost a fortune.

by Mike Mueller on Feb 22, 2010 8:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

DE is not a priority ...

You can only have one priority or it’s not a priority, right ? We have Mark Anderson, Wale may come back, Izzy and Alex Brown, amongst others. And DE is a priority ? Uh uh. Free safety people – we don’t have a starter. We’re one receiver short too – a big guy to put opposite Shabba wide out.

by Irish Bears Fan on Feb 23, 2010 1:58 AM CST up reply actions  

DE is a priority

MA doesn’t get to the qb, neither does Wale. Izzy plays most of his snaps at DT when Adams or Harrison hit the bench in passing situations. DE is in fact the #1 priority.

by Mike Mueller on Feb 23, 2010 7:42 AM CST up reply actions  

If i could vote twice..

Id say DE and FS…but DE can be fixed if the bears bust out the pocketbook for once and get julius peppers…FS can hopefully be fixed in the draft

by Pretender85 on Feb 23, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 23, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

And put DT ahead of DE

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Feb 23, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Biggest Need

Actually the biggest need is a new owner who isn’t afraid to get some talent.

by ChiBoy on Feb 22, 2010 7:17 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

+1

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Feb 22, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

just noticed that Peppers will not be franchised

and Darren Sharper will not be returning to the Saints. Both will be available. IF they could get these 2 guys I think alot of the defensive problems could be resolved. I would hope with a lack of draft choices that the owners would jump to get at least one of these two. To get both would be the best but I’m not sure the owners would be willing to spend $$$$.

by chigrl on Feb 22, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Too much money and ......

…… while I like Sharper he’s too old . If we’re gonna pay someone I’d prefer it be Antrel Rolle , if the Cards release him . Sharpers skills will start to demnish and I’d rather they demnish for another team . As for Peppers he could be good for us . Still has a good 2-4 years left in the tank , at an all pro level , and could really give a boost to our D-line . The other , cheaper option Aaron Kampman . Is an all out hustler who could bring just as much to the table as Peppers but at a reduced price tag , just a little something to consider .

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 23, 2010 12:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes to Sharper, no to Tommie Harris Mk. II.

Sharper just went to the Pro Bowl MidWay – and not as an Alternate – we can’t use him ? We’re good with Steltz/Payne ?

And LT has had nine years in the NFL, what has he got to give the Bears ?

by Irish Bears Fan on Feb 23, 2010 2:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I say no .......

……… because all Sharper will be is a stop gap guy . He’ll fill the role until we get someone younger so why not just go with someone younger to start with , like Antrel Rolle . And Sharper is a Free Safety whereas Steltz and Payne are Strong Safeties .

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 23, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the heads up on Sharper ...

Let’s hope Angelo is letting his fingers do the walking ….

by Irish Bears Fan on Feb 23, 2010 2:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Make this green!

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Feb 23, 2010 7:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Not gonna make a fanpost but

Chargers released LT, how’s aboot we give Forte a role model?

by emdub on Feb 22, 2010 7:56 PM CST reply actions  

Or a ballboy?

I’d rather see the Bears pay a little money for Taylor.

"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach

by propheteer on Feb 22, 2010 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yea right have you seen our ballboy

He almost out ran Knox!

"How sad, another victim of the Night Nurses from Jersey."

by ANYTIME09 on Feb 22, 2010 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

LT is almost certainly done

ton of mileage finally caught up with him the past 2 seasons. no thank you. give me chester taylor instead.

by guy incognito on Feb 22, 2010 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Chester Taylor – fewer miles on the clock and you take a good player away from a rival.

by Irish Bears Fan on Feb 23, 2010 2:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm all for LT and Forte being a tandem

LT is a leader, he also knows his position well. He’s a good pass catching RB that Martz could use in the offense.

by Da Sassage on Feb 23, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

+2

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 23, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

NO

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Feb 23, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Need DT option

 I am not huge fan of Harris. MY opinion is that they need some beef up front. If they can get a bigger push up the middle, or o DT that requires a double, it will make the other pieces on the def look better. Richard Seymour, Wilfolk aguy who can be a force in the middle. The Offense would have to double him, which would leave gaps for a blitzer to get through, or allow a DE the option of stunting.\
  As it is, the front doesn’t get any push. I see them stuffed a the line on passing downs. Usually an they are taken on one on one, leaving the center or guard to pick up a blitzer. or double on the end trying to spin to the inside. Look, my proof is in the Giants. They got alot of pressure with their front four, it took them all the way. 85 Bears had fridge. That is where I would start. The move to the O line that can make a guy like McMahon look a pro bowler.

by GHCF2314 on Feb 22, 2010 8:51 PM CST reply actions  

Unfortunately both guys will be franchised

NE already tagged wilfork and Oak said they will tag RS if they can’t work out an extension. That takes them both off the market.

by Mike Mueller on Feb 22, 2010 8:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

No. It doesn't work in our defense. Period.

Wilfork is franchised anyway. Thank god. Now all the talk of him coming over will stop.

by ChiLobo#23 on Feb 22, 2010 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

WTF ?

The Fridge !? WTF ? Are you serious man ? It had nothing to do with Dent/Mongo/Manimal ? And the reason Jim McMahon looked like a pro bowler is because he WAS a probowler – a legend and a winner. Sounds like someone who didn’t see him play and so shouldn’t disrespect the guy ….

by Irish Bears Fan on Feb 23, 2010 3:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Danimal!

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"if we need it, we’re not drafting it. not high anyway. look for Angelo to go after a DL/DE – because that’s just the kind of asshat he is.." - junkhorse
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Feb 23, 2010 4:52 AM CST up reply actions  

By the way

 wouldn’t LT fit the Faulk role with Rams very well with Bears? Maybe this could go into another thread?

by GHCF2314 on Feb 22, 2010 8:52 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe

But for one i don’t think he is going to take another significant paycut and go to a team with a serious question mark as far as playoffs. I saw on ESPN this morning that he said his only goal now was to win a Championship before he retires. Somehow i don’t think Chicago is going to be on his radar.

by Chitownproduct on Feb 23, 2010 6:58 AM CST up reply actions  

owners sit on hands again

Its the owners who wont spend the money, and i dont mean crazy money either, thats not how you win either, but sometimes you need to out bid the other teams once in awhile for that big name big game player like a peppers but they wont. The bears also need a ball hawking fs but thats gonna cost too i think those are the two most needed spots but we all know how it goes they will sit wait till all the big guys are gone then pick up some low priced low talent guy nobody else wanted and say we always liked the way he played in the past and so we brought him in. Just like the moves today a 13th te to block and a below average wr cuz martz worked with him before, well then why not sign holt to a one year maybe two with some incentives. but that would make sense, in my opinion. just a rant

by WINGDING4 on Feb 22, 2010 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

that TE

is 6’8 280lbs. Lmao. And peterman looked good from the limited offseason time i saw him.

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Feb 22, 2010 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep. Two nice moves ....

Shame we didn’t re-sign Brandon Rideau. That one hurts ….

by Irish Bears Fan on Feb 23, 2010 2:43 AM CST up reply actions  

It is surprising

when a player turns down the NFL for a chance to play CFL as the money is no where nearly as good. Most players would make as much or more on an NFL practice squad.

Was Rideau told he wouldn’t be resigned or do you think he came north for a chance to get more playing time and to prove himself?

I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 23, 2010 7:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Peterman??

Wasn’t he Elaine’s old boss on Seinfeld. That guy couldn’t possibly be 6’8.

But there he was…..

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Feb 23, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Those signings are basically training camp roster filler additions.

It’s not like they have BIG plans for either guy.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Feb 23, 2010 7:10 AM CST up reply actions  

OWNERS????

it’s time to stop blaming the owners…they spent the $$ on cutler,#54,briggs ect.
it’s just JA spent $$ on wrong people…T Harris,overrated & over paid.
let’s but the blame on managment not owners.JA has spent lots of bears $$ just on wrong players. to much $$ spent on 1st round draft busts & to much $$ on lovie smith

by rockzilla on Feb 23, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

ummm.....

Constantly well under the cap, poor sod, rising ticket prices and the retention of JA and Lovie all indicate that you are wrong on this one. Remember that the reason the clowns that your blaming all of this on are still here is because the owners are cheap. They kept the band together to save money.

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 23, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

You mean they saved $s on Cutler

He doesn’t make as much as two 1st rounders plus Orton

by DaHamsta on Feb 23, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Cutler is a bargain.

Two FAILED 1st round picks waste how much in resources?? How much in Fan goodwill??

Orton, nice guy, adequate QB, but he’s no Cutler.

If JA has done one good thing in his tenure, it was to go get Cutler. It may be the ONLY good thing he’s done.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Feb 23, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

for me I still think the Oline needs help

just hear me out, although they seemed to play better the last 2 games of the season you have to remember who they were playing. The Vikings got off to a slow start and still almost won the game. The last game of the season was against Detroit…do i need to say anything? There were just to many games where the Oline was overwhelmed by the opposing defenses. As for our defense I think a major problem was the lack of a LEADER on the field. When Urlacher got hurt there was no one on the field for the players to turn to. Although Briggs played ok he was unable or unwilling to LEAD the defense. If Urlacher can stay healthy I think/hope he’ll help to get the players into a better position to make or defend plays. Its well known that big plays can get a team going. Weather its offense, defense or special teams.

by chigrl on Feb 22, 2010 10:57 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, a healthy Urlacher will make a huge difference.

But our defense is predicated on getting turnovers. To do so, you need to force mistakes with a pass rush, which is why I think DE is our biggest need.

That said, I think our 2nd biggest is Oline, for exactly the reasons you mentioned. We would be foolish to think that Tice can change it all by himself. Let’s get ourselves a guard in FA or a RT in the draft.

by ChiLobo#23 on Feb 22, 2010 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Mike Tice

Was our biggest Free Agent signing.

Roll Tide... National Champs!!!

by Acreman20 on Feb 23, 2010 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah

he’s gotta be like what….6’7? he is a pretty Big guy

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Feb 23, 2010 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Pad him up!

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"if we need it, we’re not drafting it. not high anyway. look for Angelo to go after a DL/DE – because that’s just the kind of asshat he is.." - junkhorse
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Feb 27, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Wrong...

Urlacher is an aging and now serviceable MLB for a bad system who hasn’t been healthy since 2006. Lovie’s defense is predicated on turnovers which were created by a dominant DT that the Bears now lack. Urlacher is undersized and cannot shed G/C blocks well. He has only ever flourished when he had large/dominant DTs in front of him. Urlacher can handle TEs and RBs and use his speed to play laterally, but that’s it.
Also, who was the last great DE the Bears had again? When the Bears were a top ranked defense, they had Wale and Brown with a bit of Anderson thrown in and some Izzy for good measure. Thus, a DE is probably not as big a difference maker as a DT. Unless Harris is resurrected this season, the Bears and Urlacher will be doomed.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Feb 23, 2010 8:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I stopped listening when....

I read:

Urlacher is undersized

Are you serious? Urlacher is one of, if not the, biggest MLB int he game. Have you ever seen him? He’s huge.

Urlacher 6’4" 258 lbs
Ray Lewis 6’1" 250 lbs
Patrick Willis 6’1" 240 lbs
Nick Barnett 6’2" 236 lbs
James Farrior 6’2" 247 lbs
John Vilma 6’ 0" 230 lbs
EJ Handerson 6’1" 245 lbs
DeMeco Ryans 6’1" 229 lbs
Paul Posluszny 6’1" 238 lbs
Lawrence Timmons 6’0" 234 lbs
London Fletcher-Baker 5’9" 245 lbs
Keith Brookings 6’2" 245 lbs
Jon Beason 6’0" 237 lbs
Carlos Dansby 6’3" 243 lbs
AJ Hawk 6’1" 246 lbs
Jerod Mayo 6’1" 242 lbs
Gary Bracket 5’11" 235 lbs

 

S

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 23, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

THANKS

someone not afraid to look up the facts before talking

by rockzilla on Feb 23, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

thanks, but......

I wouldn’t call Lost a guy who doesn’t look up his facts on a regular basis. He just happened to be wrong this time. Lost is good people with a pretty educated position, as are most of the regulars here.

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 23, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Feelin' the love flowin', dude.

I like it. I like seeing that.

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Feb 23, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

That doesn't make Urlacher's play any different...

It just makes me wrong about his size at the position. I guess it’s been so long since I’ve seen him playing football that I forgot.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Feb 23, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, what?

lol.

As I said, I never read the rest of the comment, so I didn’t necessarily disagree. I was just shocked by the “undersized” comment, bro.

Now that I have, I agree that his skills are diminishing, and he is a lot less effective shedding blocks lately. But I don’t thinnk he’s done yet.

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 23, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

And actually...

I agree completely with the DT position. Most important need this offseason.

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 23, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks T-Train...

I did make the mistake and I’m happy to admit when I’m wrong. My comment was directed at the idea that Urlacher will save the defense. I am a huge (no pun intended) fan of Urlacher. I do see him as a pro-bowl caliber player…when he has the proper line in front of him. I honestly never realized he was as big as he actually is. He came out as a LB/safety, which means he was the largest safety in history! Nonetheless, I’ll calm down and shut up for now…

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Feb 23, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

That's what made him such a ....

freak at New Mexico. He also played wide out there. freak athleticism plus freak size = player of the decade.

Like I said, I didn’t disagree with your post after I read it. I was just stunned by the size thing :) But, hey, I’m not one to talk, bro. I’ve made some COLOSSAL errors that were pretty embarrassing. This was minor by comparison, lol.

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 23, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...

but if you are going to make mistakes, you might as well go all in! None of this penny ante crap!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Feb 23, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

lol

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 23, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you Certain you're not Lovie Smith??

Sounds a lot like his philosophy,

“OK I was wrong, but put forth all my effort at it.”

Sorry no swipe at your personally… Just kinda came to mind.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Feb 23, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Touche.....

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 24, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Ah come on, Lost.

Urlacher is more than the sum of his skills. His leadership and field generalship is invaluable to this team. And I wouldn’t call him just serviceable. He is no longer great, but he is still really good if he’s not injured.

As far as the argument that he’s only done well with a large/dominant DT, that’s just not true. He’s flourished every year regardless of the DT size in front of him. That’s what makes him a sure HOFer. And every LB benefits with a good line in front of him. Would you say that Ray Lewis isn’t really that good because the Ravens line has been really good? “Urlacher can handle TEs and RBs, but that’s it.” I thought handling those two were a LB’s main responsibilities, silly me.

I agree, DT is the cornerstone of this D. But realistically, we are committed to Tommie in the middle for at least another year.

DE- Wale and Brown played at a high level when we were dominant. Can you imagine what kind of havoc we would’ve wreaked on our opponents if we had a Dwight Freeney of our own?

I find your comment a little extreme. Even without Urlacher and with a very inconsistent Harris, we still ranked 21st. Far from doomed. Frustratingly mediocre, but not doomed.

by ChiLobo#23 on Feb 23, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I do NOT think Urlacher is a bad MLB...

you and I could argue the HOF stuff, but that’s for another day. I lived in Albuquerque for a while in the late 90s, so I get the need to root for the hometown guy.

The 2 points I am trying to make are these:

1. Urlacher, while he is a top 5 LB in the NFL, will not resurrect the Bears defense when he returns this season. Mostly, this is due to his advancing age and diminishing speed/skills. It is not a knock on his abilities, but a comment that leads to the second point…

2. The Bears, more than any other position on defense, need to get a dominant DT to improve the defense. With a dominant DT, Urlacher’s speed and advancing age are less of an issue. With a dominant DT in front of him, Urlacher can be that field general and roam laterally to chase down plays. In truth, I see this as more of a durability concern than any set of skills anyway. I conjecture that Urlacher plays at a high level longer if the DTs in front of him are bigger/better. As far as the TE/RB responsibility, of course that’s his main responsibility, but he has to get past the Cs and Gs to get to those guys.

I am sick and tired of wasting the talent the Bears do have because of the underachieving of too many other players. Urlacher could play for 3-5 more years at a reasonably high level, but not with Harris in front of him.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Feb 23, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I see what you mean, but...

On your first point: Having him back on the field is a huge upgrade to HH, Roach, or whoever else you want to put there. I agree with you he isn’t at his peak anymore, but he is still really good. And you are leaving out the intangibles in your equation. Roach is a better athlete than HH, but he couldn’t run the D and looked lost and overwhelmed at the MLB spot. Urlacher is that guy that makes everyone around him play better. There are not many guys like that in the league.

2nd point: I agree with you totally. A dominant DT/Line would allow Urlacher to shine more. But we have more pressing needs than replacing a guy who still shows flashes of greatness from time to time.

Look at it this way: In order to replace Tommie with someone dominant like you describe, you would need a top-10 pick. Or someone similar in FA. And there isn’t anyone like that in this crop. So you can’t address it. What is available in this year’s FA pool are DEs. And safeties. And maybe someone to plug at OG/RT.

by ChiLobo#23 on Feb 24, 2010 1:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough...

In some sense, we are on the same page. I just worry that will be the excuse the Bears use in not getting any FAs on this ailing defense. Urlacher is back, therefore the Bears won’t need to get any other players. I personally believe that the problems with the defense are almost all coaching and less to do with the talent level anyway. I’ll be glad when Lovie is gone!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Feb 24, 2010 6:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Me, too!

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 24, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Point 1.....

I agree with completely……

On point 2 though, I disagree in the level of importance on the DT need. I think it is the most important need this offseason. And not to replace Harris, but Harrison/Adams/fill in the name. Harris is underperforming, and I’m not defending that. But the Nose Tackle position has been played putridly since Ian Scott and Tank Johnson left. I think Dvoracek has been the only real NT on the roster since Tank Johnson departed, and he’s spent the last 4 years on injured reserve, so a lot of good that did. Harrison and company have done well to draw single blocking, and we really need a big-bodied NT with a mean streak in this lineup. Tommie has been down, I won’t even pretend to suggest differently. But it doesn’t help that the NT has been virtually off the radar for opposing offensive line. Replace the NT first. Then worry about Tommie in the future, if he doesn’t improve with help.

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 24, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Hmm. Good suggestion.

I guess in the big discussion of Tommie, the NT gets lost. Maybe that’s just as much to blame for his loss of production over the years as his injuries/laziness.

by ChiLobo#23 on Feb 24, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

an earth mover at LG would do wonders for this OL

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by lookingdeadred on Feb 23, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly, the Bears screwed the pooch with Frank O, a tackle his whole life thrust into the LG position

And now he says he wants to stay there. Sure he showed some improvement close to the end of the year, but are they really banking on Frank O being our starting LG all next year?

by Chitownproduct on Feb 24, 2010 2:43 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 24, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Quarterback is our biggest need

Oh wait, it’s not 2007 is it? O-line for real.

by Sam Householder on Feb 22, 2010 11:42 PM CST reply actions  

Our biggest need is more than 1 position

We need a wr,DE, cant just say we need 1 player we need a pass rusher real bad and we cant go into the season without a number 1 WR again there was to many mistakes.

by tazz34 on Feb 23, 2010 12:13 AM CST reply actions  

NEEDS

our needs are paramount.,and for a quick fix would be to nab PEPPERS and the cards have just released ROLLE. but as everyone has pointed out we are a franchise who wont part with the $$$$ to make it happen

by stepeo on Feb 23, 2010 12:13 AM CST reply actions  

Not true.

Ted Phillips has just said there is a decent budget for an acquisition(s). But they won’t be winning any ridiculous bidding wars, for sure.

by Irish Bears Fan on Feb 23, 2010 2:57 AM CST up reply actions  

So basically
Ted Phillips has just said there is a decent budget for an acquisition(s). But they won’t be winning any ridiculous bidding wars, for sure.

Which sadly…is why we won’t get Peppers. Man he would look good with that C on his helmet though.

by Chitownproduct on Feb 23, 2010 7:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Without question, the Bears' biggest need is Moe Howard...

(that’s Moe from the Three Stooges for the uninformed) or, more accurately, his clone. Someone who will give the collective McCaskey/Phillips/Angelo/Smith clan a slap in the head everytime they make another stupid move.

With that in mind, they better also get renowned orthopedic surgeon James Andrews on staff, since the Moe Clone will obviously need “Tommy John” surgery on his slapping arm from overuse.

by BearFan611 on Feb 23, 2010 7:42 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

Best comment EVER!

+1 and rec’d!

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 23, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

BIGGEST NEED

I FEEL THAT OLINE GUARD, AND FREE SAFETY ARE BIGGEST NEEDS, HOPEFULLY THRU DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY THOSE NEEDS CAN BE ADDRESSED.

by eliseo on Feb 23, 2010 8:36 AM CST reply actions  

I don't see how

this defense could go back to being an impact unit without a big upgrade at both DE and FS. The secondary has looked lost since Mike Brown left, and the front 4 haven’t applied consistent pressure since the Super Bowl season. If both aren’t fixed, this defense will continue to be on the field too much.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Feb 23, 2010 4:29 PM CST reply actions  

I don't see how

this defense can go back to being an impact unit without a big upgrade at both HC and OC. The secondary has looked lost since Perry Fewell left, and the front 4 haven’t applied consistent pressure since the Super Bowl season, when Ron Rivera left. If both aren’t fixed, this defense will continue to be on the field too much.

:)

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 24, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Check that.....

bq.big upgrade at both HC and OC

should read: big upgrade at both HC and DC

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 24, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

BRING ME A SHRUBBERY!!!

Or at the very least an assassin in the secondary. FS… is pressing, but with equal need for a DE who can create some havoc.

FS=DE<> Bears Needs

I want someone to scare the crap outta any receiver stupid enough to venture into their world.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Feb 23, 2010 5:12 PM CST reply actions  

Is that the correct spelling of shrubbery? My spell checked liked it so...

I fart in your general direction!!

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Feb 23, 2010 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

How about someone who’ll fart in the general direction of any receiver stupid enough to venture into their world?

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"if we need it, we’re not drafting it. not high anyway. look for Angelo to go after a DL/DE – because that’s just the kind of asshat he is.." - junkhorse
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Feb 27, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

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