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Reading Between the Lines: What is Lovie Saying?

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In what has become a well-known term with fans of the Chicago Bears, "Lovie-speak" is notorious for ambiguity.  And perhaps, he purposely keeps his public comments as minimally substantial as possible... less to be accountable for, if you will.

Today, Lovie made some comments about our defensive safety position; and Brad Biggs says that the Bears are expected to make a play for Antrel Rolle, assuming he is released from Arizona.  Yes, Lovie talks about the need to get better, and says that the focus right now will be possibilities in Free Agency. 

But, what caught my eye was a quote from Lovie near the end of the article...

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"When you look to improve it, you look at all areas.  We do have some draft picks. Hopefully, maybe we will be able to use one a little bit earlier."

Did Lovie Smith have a slip of the tongue?  Is he purposefully being cryptic?  Or am I really just reading too much into it?

Because to me, it sounds like Lovie wants to try and draft at a higher position than we are currently sitting at.  We've heard that several teams are looking to deal-down... are the Bears thinking of dealing-up?

With all of the ire vaulted towards GM Jerry Angelo this offseason, we have to remember a couple of things:

1- He is potentially fighting for his job this year.  And,

2-  He did shock the football world last offseason by bringing in Jay Cutler.

This offseason?  I guess we'll just have to stay tuned...

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meh..

Just Lovie Smith kool-aid making him babble incoherently…i.e. using Hopefully, maybe…

by Pretender85 on Feb 26, 2010 12:45 PM CST reply actions  

Yup

That’s a good translation imho

by The Kaiser on Feb 26, 2010 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Picture

Lovie “You sure are purrrrdddyyyy Jay”

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Feb 26, 2010 12:46 PM CST reply actions  

Lol

Here’s my caption:

“Man, that #6 looks really good on your chest Jay!”

"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach

by propheteer on Feb 26, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Jay RE:

“Lovie, for the the last time! My eyes are up here.”

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Feb 26, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Gotta love al the BS that spills out of his mouth.

We all knew the Safety position was a fiasco. Thanks to Biggs, he recorded it for us:

The Bears have changed starting free safeties 21 times and starting strong safeties 20 times. That is 41 moves in 96 regular-season games, or one move every 2.3 games.

Last year, Lovie was all, “We like our group of safeties.” And, we knew they were junk.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Feb 26, 2010 12:52 PM CST reply actions  

If Lovie didn't have such a hard-on for Adam Archuletta

We’d still have Chris Harris…. and we would’ve won a bunch more games.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Feb 26, 2010 12:54 PM CST reply actions  

+1

My sentiments exactly. While they definitely need to improve the FS position, the defensive line made our secondary (this the case almost everywhere in the NFL).

"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach

by propheteer on Feb 26, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

The problem is...

the Bears suck at both positions. I hope, since Tommie Harris remains useless, the Bears at least fix half the problem and get a real live safety of their very own.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Feb 26, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

Leave no stone unturned.

"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach

by propheteer on Feb 26, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

If you cannot do both

at least do one

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Feb 27, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

The inability to rush the passer

is a big part of the reason why the DBs struggle

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 2, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Amen

Unfortunately, I do not see a dominant DT joining the Bears, so the next best move is a playmaker right DE, followed by a FS.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Feb 27, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Tommie may not be finished.

He showed signs of life last year. And between him, Harrison, Idonije, Adams, Melton, Gilbert, Toeaina(Dusty?) we’re hardly short of DTs. If we can get Peppers, the line will be awesome ….

by Irish Bears Fan on Mar 1, 2010 1:55 AM CST up reply actions  

The Bears may have quantity at DT but

they lack quality. A dominant DT would do more to help the defense than a DE or a S, but since there is no dominating DT available, a DE (like Peppers or Kampman) and a S like ARolle would be the next best things.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 2, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

When it comes down to it...

they got rid of Chris Harris for Archuletta, that was truly a BS move.

Walter Payton lives on!!!

by monsterman34 on Feb 26, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Thanks Lovie! The Panthers sure seem happy with the results of that move, though.

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by T-Train on Feb 28, 2010 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I consider this ...

… a possiable hint toward us trading up , for once . I get the feeling we’re gonna end up trading next years first rounder for someone’s first rounder this year . Hell maybe we’ll end up with Berry or Allen or Taylor Mayes . If we trade up far enough anll those guys are in play .

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 26, 2010 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

the Bears just don't get it

So we had to suffer last draft with no #1 pick. Then we screwed up worse and traded away our #2 in this draft so that we’re stuck this year without a #1 or a #2.

FINALLY next year we’ll have a full slate of draft picks…unless we do something stupid this year and try to trade up, thus being assured that we are going to have less than a full slate of picks NEXT year as well. Ridiculous.

There are two types of teams in the NFL. Teams like the Patriots, who every year seem to have about 27 draft picks. And teams like the Bears…the exact sort of team that teams like the Pats prey upon.

by JohnPaul on Feb 26, 2010 1:03 PM CST reply actions  

Quality vs. quantity

The past three years the Bears have had 9, 12, and 9 draft picks. They’ve done a good job getting a lot of picks, but have failed in converting them into impact players. It comes down to evaluation of existing picks, not accumulating more of them.

"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach

by propheteer on Feb 26, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

So you would rather

have not traded to get cutler and kept our 2 picks? Not me I’m happy for the trade, he is worth those two #1s. The part that didn’t make sense was the loss of our 2nd rd pick. Made me think of rick meirer….. almost. I just threw up a little in my mouth saying his name. I was hoping Gaines would make me regret my frustration of the trade but now he never will.

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt". -Mark Twain

by pappabearhalas on Feb 27, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Damn near every team in the early part of the 1st round...

is looking to trade down. The Bears could put together a package if they believe there is a difference maker early.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 26, 2010 1:42 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah but

they would have to offer their ’11 first-rounder to do so. Probably not worth it, considering it rarely pays off.

"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach

by propheteer on Feb 26, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

they want to trade down

because of the pending lockout next year over the CBA. no team wants to pay bloated rookie salaries in the final year of the CBA and it’s likely the top 10, if not the top 7 rooks are going to get lowball offers this year.

lots of holdouts coming up both rookie and FAs. it looks like a free for all right now, but wait until actual contract negotiations start. teams with unlimited money are going to buy players for one year.

by junkhorse on Feb 27, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

What if....

some how the Bears traded to the 1st round and Suh fell to them. would they bite on him? Do the Bears need him? i think that would be great. Lol too bad it will NEVER happen

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Feb 27, 2010 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

No way it happens but

if Suh was available, he would be the possible pick for the Bears. The biggest need for the Bears is a dominating DT, a role Suh will fill with whoever picks him.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Feb 28, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm (LMFAO) wrecked...

so now you are as well!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Feb 26, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Now we're going for a safety too

If we get Rolle and Peppers as we seem to be targeting them, our D will be quite good.

by DaHamsta on Feb 26, 2010 2:35 PM CST reply actions  

Revised best possible D

RE- Izzy/Kampman/Gilbert 3-Tech-Harris/Izzy NT-Adams/Harrison/Dovorcheck LE-Peppers/Brown/Anderson
SAM-Karlos Dansby/ Pisa Tinaisamoa/ Roach MLB- Urlacher/Hunter WLB-Briggs/Williams
LCB-Tillman RCB- Robinson Nickle-Bowman/Manning
SS-Rhodes, Afalava
FS-Rolle, Payne

Now this would be super expensive but it would be awesome.

by DaHamsta on Feb 26, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

They would still be making money.

And you are absolutely correct, expensive and awesome. I figure they owe us, so lets throw in CT…now I’m happy.

Walter Payton lives on!!!

by monsterman34 on Feb 26, 2010 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Lovie speak

blah, blah, blah- I don’t really say anything important, revealing, insightful, or extraordinary. I’m a puppet being controlled by the upstairs people.

"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach

by propheteer on Feb 26, 2010 3:11 PM CST reply actions  

Lovie in today's Sun Times on Tommie Harris.
“I’ll say (he should have had) five more sacks where he just didn’t wrap the guy up,” Smith said at the NFL combine. “He can still be an impact player. He will still be an impact player. Our defense is counting on him to do that.”

Linky

So you’re saying that if Tommie Harris played better football (wrap the guy up) he’d be a better football player? Let me contemplate that one while I pour myself a glass of gin and weep quietly….

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Feb 26, 2010 3:29 PM CST reply actions  

Whoops, the reply was to you and not to me...

Not that I’m adverse to replying to myself after a few glasses of gin…

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Feb 27, 2010 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Two as in one for you and one for me?

I’m four glasses in and this statement still makes no sense. If everybody played better we’d be a better team….. Yes, and you’ve coached for how long? Lovie Smith is becoming Chicago’s Yogi Berra. Lovie needs a mental enema…

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Feb 27, 2010 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Now I really am "All in."

If you fail to tackle as a Defensive TACKLE haven’t you failed to do your job as a player? But he will still be an impact player. Thank you Lovie and goodnight!

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Feb 27, 2010 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I read it as

using a mid-round pick as opposed to a late-round pick. Regardless, I like the term “invest”, suggesting something substantial and long term whether it is through the draft or FA.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by spleensplitter on Feb 26, 2010 3:56 PM CST reply actions  

I take that to mean that he's looking to trade for a player,

not necessarily trade up for draft position.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Feb 26, 2010 11:00 PM CST reply actions  

Exactly.

When I read it the first time, it sounds to me like he’s saying we’ll use one of the picks in a trade. I’m trying to think of players that would fit the description. A need for us, but have overstayed their welcome or have been made expendable due to the play of a cheaper player at another team.

Could be anyone, really.

by ChiLobo#23 on Feb 27, 2010 12:34 AM CST up reply actions  

ouch

Don’t like that idea. Berry’s being talked about as a possible top-5 pick. Even if he drops a bit below that (in the 5-10 range), we simply don’t have anything to trade for that. We’d probably have to give away our 3rd round this year, our 1st next year, and another of next year’s picks as well. I have a hard time believing ANY safety is worth that—and certainly not one who is unproven at the NFL level.

by JohnPaul on Feb 27, 2010 8:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I hope so.

He wastes too much time getting our younger talent on the field.

Walter Payton lives on!!!

by monsterman34 on Feb 28, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

He just threw Angelo under the bus ...

…by saying we haven’t done well with our early picks … and THEN says he’s moving D. Manning to SS ? What’s going on ? Alfalava to FS ? Or Sharper to FS and everyone else is airlocked … ?

by Irish Bears Fan on Mar 1, 2010 1:26 AM CST reply actions  

He meant picking a Saftey a lil bit earlier.

Thats what he was refering to. Picking a safety earlier then they’ve normally drafted one before. What an indictment that is. In a system that relies heavily on S play even more so then CB’s they keep drafting them in the 6th round.

by jackhammerebm on Mar 2, 2010 10:54 AM CST reply actions  

Safety

Not sure if someone mentioned this yet but Lovie was talking about picking a Safety a little bit earlier since they’ve pretty much ignored one of the most important positions in the cover-2 in the past drafts.

by jackhammerebm on Mar 2, 2010 10:56 AM CST reply actions  

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