Breaking: Bears Complete Coaching Staff; Marinelli Promoted to DC
From chicagobears.com:
The Bears on Friday finalized their coaching staff by naming Rod Marinelli defensive coordinator, Eric Washington defensive line coach, and Shane Day quarterbacks coach.
Marinelli, who also will retain his title as assistant head coach, joined the Bears a year ago as defensive line coach after spending the previous three seasons as head coach of the Detroit Lions. Under his guidance in 2009, Bears defensive linemen generated 24 sacks, tied for ninth most in the NFL among defensive fronts.
Day was a quality control coach with the San Francisco 49ers the past three seasons, working with Martz in 2008. Day also worked with new Bears tight ends coach Mike DeBord at Michigan in 2005-06, serving as assistant quarterbacks and quality control coach. His other duties included opponent film breakdown and recruiting.
The Bears on Friday also named Andrew Hayes-Stoker offensive quality control coach and Mikal Smith defensive quality control coach.
So there you have it. The Space Cowboys of old head coaches are now in Charge of your Chicago Bears. What happens from here?
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Darn I thought Dave McGinnis was getting it, maybe next time
we lost out on dick jauron too, he went to the eagles
Marinelli
Is a motivator, and a great one at that, but it remains to be seen how his play calling skills are. To say the least, this season will be interesting
9th best in the league
in sacks. That’s an improvement.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Feb 5, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Thats why I would have preferred
that Rod stay on the d line and bring someone else with fresh ideas for DC….or at the very least Hoke as DC….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
Why would you trust Hoke as a DC
over Marinelli? Just because you prefer him to stay with the line? Marinelli will continue to work with the line while being DC. At least Marinelli has the experience with the system, he was never fired for anything he did to a defense just as a HC. Hoke was fired by the Texans for making the secondary suck balls and he hasn’t done any better with the Bears. If they had to choose between the two then Marinelli was the better choice.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Feb 6, 2010 2:04 AM CST up reply actions
I say that because at least Hoke
was a DC at FL….at least he had experience as a DC even if it was in college….marinilli has never been a DC….
"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."
- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft
by CloudyFuture on Feb 6, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
TERRIBLE
We’ve been down this road before with Babich. This defense needs NEW ideas not the same old BS.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 5, 2010 3:26 PM CST reply actions
Well, as long as Lovie's in Chicago
His “boys” are gonna be calling the plays – whether it’s Babich or Marinelli
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
I liked the Martz move.
I’m not so big on any of these.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
Wow...why did they even wait so long to do what they could have done weeks ago?
Stupid they could have held of and at least interviewed williams.
I'm baffled
I agree, why not wait three more days to interview Williams? It’s because Lovie is a control freak. He’ll be fired after going 7-9 again next season.
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
Lovie fired by Week 5
Martz, Tice and Marinelli arm wrestle to see who gets to be interim head coach.
Yep
The Bears brass would love to be able to say “Our head coach can beat up your head coach.”
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
hey...
…at least we know it’s not likely that Tice will be scalping any Bears SB tickets next year.
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
I predict...
Chicago’s liquor sales will be up tonight.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Feb 5, 2010 3:37 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
and ammo sales
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
now gentlemen...
we know he isn’t really a lame duck
(just quacks like one)
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
Rec'd
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 5, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
Im gonna give all these guys a shot
Just because Marinelli hasnt called plays before you cant say he will fail. He is a Firey guy and thats something this defense needs to lead them.
I hope he can do it...
but I want some new Ideas, I want the Tampa 2 to evolve like it did in Indy, I can’t wait to hear some his defensive ideas, if he’s allowed to speak to the media about something new that is
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 5, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Day and Marinelli
are both puppets being controlled by their masters. Let’s call it The Lovie and Mike show!
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
FAIL
is there a sign that says that outside of Halas Hall yet? or at least outside of Lovie and Angelo’s office … christ. this is a lame and predictable move.
they didn't interview anyone
b/c they didn’t want to hear what needed to be changed.
whereas they interviewed several guys for OC and said they wanted to explore all the various options.
bullshit.
I am not happy with todays signing's at all.
They take there time at first getting coaches, then they jump off the ledge to get everyone on board to meet a deadline. I was really hoping since they took their time up to this point, that they would wait and interview Williams. New blood and change on the offense is what was needed, instead we get hosed. Williams is an up and comer with probably fresh ideas. He is good at coaching db’s by the way Indy has performed and was really interested. Thanks a lot Lovie you sack of monkey dung.
Walter Payton lives on!!!
Lovie is ridiculous
just because he had the idea that all of his coaching staff would be in place before the Super Bowl doesn’t mean it had to be. He would rather keep to his word and hire someone that has never called plays before than look like he didn’t make his own personal deadline. Same old Bears taking one step forward and two steps back. Ridiculous.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Feb 5, 2010 3:50 PM CST reply actions
All of this should have been done and could have been done...
the day after Turner was released. What a bunch of dim wits. Smudgers, please do something with a clown car and these fella’s jumping out.
Walter Payton lives on!!!
F-ing ridiculous
Lovie promoting Marinelli is just a way for him to stay in control of the D. He may have given up the DC title but that doesn’t mean he’s turned the defense over. He is the one that will run the defense and he is only using Marinelli as a puppet to do so. He didn’t hire anyone else because they weren’t going to be lackeys. I’m so sick to death of Lovie Smith. He is the WORST coach in the NFL. This is why he should’ve been fired. But I guess we will have to wait another year to see that. I’m just so shocked at the level of stupidity that Lovie is operating on
+1
What exactly did the douchebags at Halas hall make us wait for if they weren’t going to interview anyone else, unless of course, nobody would come and interview to be lovie’s puppet.
Wow. they had to have known this would piss off the fan base, and they gave us the middle finger anyways………
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 5, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
Marinelli and Martz
Hey, it worked great in Detroit!
by Hatchetm on Feb 5, 2010 4:00 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
my initial reaction is anger
but taking a step back, I have to wonder if Marinelli was the best only decision.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
And thats why I can not understand at least bringing him in to interview
the man said he was interested at least give him a look….but guess Lovie is smarter than everyone else….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
Yes,
the next Detroit Lions. I have been wishing for this since ’85, good fricken times.
Walter Payton lives on!!!
Really can't say ........
…….. that I’m in love with Rod as the DC , but he will fire them up . Maybe thats all we need is a firey guy to motivate these guys . At times last year they looked very flat and unmotivated , so heres to hopin this works out . Honestly I think it will be fine . At the very least we’ll have someone doing the game planning so we don’t look so unprepared . Lovie just had too much on his plate last year with running the team and calling the defense so really all we needed was someone to help out and thats what we got .
Did you notice..
that they didn’t bring in anyone from a winning organization? I know you did, just tired of giving Lovie and JA the benefit of the doubt over and over and over.
Walter Payton lives on!!!
HE WAS HERE LAST YEAR!
What change? Is he gonna fire em up like he did last year? Oh wait, our D was superb last year so we promote from within. Nobody respects this idiot no matter how fiery he is. He was the only coach EVER to go 0-16 ! So now he is in charge of our D? This team could snag a good coach even if said coach was up their arse and they had a hand full of treble hooks. That’s why we promoted Rod 0fer Marinelli.
by Ryan21 on Feb 5, 2010 4:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And .......
………….. our D-line improved . Whats your point ?
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Improvement is being kind...
The Lions improved too, AFTER they went 0-16.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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All I know .......
……….. is our D-line did much better and towadrs seasons end was playing very well . So yes they improved . And really the 0-16 wasn’t all his fault . When you got Matt Millen drafting wide out after wide out and then not drafting much of anything else its kinda hard to post even one win . Rod did do a great job when he and Martz were there ( posted a 7-9 record ) .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
And... all I know is...
Our Line was very, very poor in 2008. It would have been difficult NOT to improve.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Improvment .......
………… is improvment . At least we have something solid to build around .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
He didn't help develop any young talent on that line,
Mark Anderson had 12 sacks his rookie year, and has done squat since. And, the two rookies we drafted for him (Gilbert and Melton) didn’t even see the playing field (I think).
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Well .......
…… Melton got hurt and Gilbert was a small school guy who needed to sit for a year and learn . And sorry late in the season it looked like a light came on for Mark Anderson . His play steadied and he started to come around ( the second Viking game he made plays or set up plays ) . So I think another year with Rod will continue to develope Anderson , Melton and Gilbert .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
Melton
had a sprain ankle and could have been ready by week 5 from what I understand…..They just red shirted him….
Also they want him to add weight to play DT (the UT) position….Gilbert they want him to replace Ogun….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
Cloudy i think you have it backwards.
They want gilbert to play 3 tech(tommies spot) and Milton to play in Prince’s spot.
Not accordin to Hub
on one of his score interviews….they want them to switch….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
this guy was our "biggest free agent signing"
I know 0-16 wasn’t all his fault but he was the captain of that ship. I didn’t see us get to the qb when we needed to early in the season and the last few games but when we played a good o-line we got killed by the Senca Wallace’s of the world.
by Ryan21 on Feb 5, 2010 4:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Its all in your .......
……… point of view . And did you not watch the Steeler’s game early on ? We got to Big Ben on a regular basis . Maybe we did’t sack him but we got to him . The second Viking game we got to Brett , yet again didn’t get many sacks but we hit him and hurried him . We failed aginest the likes of Kurt Warner , Carson Palmer , Brett Favre , Aaron Rogers , Matt Ryan and Donovan McNabb . All of which have good o-lines and solid recieving .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
Ben was sacked 189 times in the last 4 years.....
or did you miss that? Doing a good job of getting to Big Ben gets you about as much credit as eating paste.
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 5, 2010 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
Never stopped me from getting good grades...
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
yeah, they really got to
QB’s and struck fear in their hearts. I think every Qb had their worst game of the season when they played the Bears dominant d-line.
by Ryan21 on Feb 5, 2010 4:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So .......
……….. you saw zero improvment ?
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Hard to tell
That stupid Vikings game clouds my judgement a little bit because they had some pressure but the Queens still scored a ton of points. I did not see an improvement to give me any confidence in them being even close to dominate. Plus our sack leader is gone anyway with no proven guy to replace him. J. PEPPERS! Or KAMPMAN!
by Ryan21 on Feb 5, 2010 4:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
At least .....
……… you admit your judgement is clouded . We really do need to add a proven defensive end . It could be bring back Wale or bring in say a Vince Wilfork to demand double teams . Guys like Peppers and Kampman make sense too . We just need to get some proven players to fill our defensive holes .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
This is why im so pissed
(My question to JA) Jerry,at seasons end, you said that the team needed to change. I think the word “EVoLvMeNt” was thrown around. While on offense there was a plethora of change, how exactly is this defense now, any different? Through the course of the season, the Bears lost more games by more points than any season in decades. So, Jerry,how is this defense so different than last years; which was arguably the worst Bears defense this city has ever seen? Where is the change when we have no new coaches on defense and the guy who said he didn’t want the job now has that job. A job you only interviewed one guy for, and that guy was already on the staff a few seasons ago. Evolution is forced by change Mr. Angelo. There can be no evolvment if we stay status quo.
by Ryan21 on Feb 5, 2010 5:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just hold your........
…………….temper until we see whats done via the draft and free agency . Like I stated on this thread some talented players could make these coaches look good . But to say the least I would have prefered a few move guys interviewing for the DC job , but according to some here that would have made us look worse so there seems to be no happy medium here , a grey area .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
there is no cap next year? i think
So if Jerry makes a big splash (which they should since they saved money on keeping this staff) we may get better, a lot better. I didn’t want Martz but the more I read the more I like. He took a really really bad Rams team and turned them into the #1 offense in one year with most of the same players that sucked it up minus a nobody grocery store QB. I like our offense and I like Hester a lot as a slot reciever. I thought he made huge leaps this year and I think a lot of people a wrong on saying he can’t play the position. He just needs to be in the slot. We need a FA on both lines and a S. The safety or a guard we can get in the 3rd of the draft. The d-line has to be via FA. I think our offense will make our defense by putting points on the board and makin teams one dimensional. Or they will be absolutely terrible. I don’t like Marinelli but I hope he proves me wrong. Lovie needs to watch the discovery channel and see that it is evolve or adapt otherwise you face extinction. If the 3 stooges don’t do that they will go the way of the dinosaur. Or Dodo. The stooges will be extinct from the NFL if the Bears don’t what they are capable of.
by Ryan21 on Feb 5, 2010 7:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lovie needs to watch the discovery channel and see that it is evolve or adapt otherwise you face extinction.
He’s probably a creationist. That would explain a lot…..
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"I don’t care if Belichick wins twenty Super Bowls. He’s an asshole." - Da Coach
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
They'll be 6-10, but very intimidating and fired up!
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
Watch them go
12-4 just to spite you now….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
I would be ok with this.
Winning is winning, even if it’s just to spite propheteer :)
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
Love to be spited and wrong
if it meant them making the playoffs!
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
Again, though, the way this has been handled is dumb.
If Marinelli, for better or worse, was going to be hired all along, why wait until now to promote him? Dumb.
If you are going to wait until February 5th to hire someone, why not wait another 3 F**KING DAYS to see if a guy who has worked in a successful Tampa-2 scheme is interested?!! Again, DUMB!
MY MIND IS GOING TO EXPLODE! ARRGHHHEOEIOIJ0oiwef[0wejwj
Great! Our new QB's coach looks like a psychopath

You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
someone post that Dexter/Cutler pic
The will be KILLER togeth! (I’m not lazy, I can’t post a pic on my cell)
by Ryan21 on Feb 5, 2010 4:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yeah,
but it gets kind of old, washed up, and depressing after a while. That’s why I sort of moderate it between CSI and The Mentalist.
by GriggsBriggs on Feb 5, 2010 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
OMG
Jeffrey Dahmer part deaux…
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
An underwhelming choice
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
Well... I called it right.
Rod Marinelli will be the “DC.” You heard it from my mouth first.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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seriously of all the places to stake a claim...
1. predicting Bears incompetence is like predicting the sun will come up tomorrow
2. you are probably the one who gave them the bright idea. it is all your fault sackman.
LOL.
And the only guy they interviewed was one of Lovie’s buddies: Fewell. I’m surprised Perry even flew to Chicago for that… I guess contract negotiation leverage is worth it.
Fewell’s coached here for Lovie before… no way he would’ve done it a second time.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I hate when you're right!
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
Bah
I was going to say someone should put SackMan on some type of rampage watch….but he seems to take this news in stride…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
Not exactly a long shot prediction though
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Feb 6, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Lovie only hires his boys
Looking forward to a steakhouse busboy being hired for defensive quality control specialist.
Or.... Lovie Smith's son.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Kinda like the new Jerry's Kids, Right?
I wish that was a joke……………
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 5, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
LOVIE SMITH'S SON, hired as quality control. LOL.
Andrew Hayes-Stoker and Mikal Smith, the coach’s son, were promoted to offensive and defensive quality control, respectively.
Might as well let the McCaskey’s coach the team, and put a giant nepotism logo on the helmet. All of Lovie’s best friends and his son coach the team. Embarrasing.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Well.. I can imagine the amount of accountability THAT"S going to establish...
I’ve also heard that they will start every coaches meeting by passing around the hooka pipe – seems like they’re all smoking the same stuff at Halas Hall these days. Can we revolt?
by DisCUBbobulated on Feb 5, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Come on ......
…………. guys really ? All your gonna do is bash ?
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
How can you NOT bash this fiasco?
The rest of the league has been laughing at the Bears for 4 weeks now… time to catch up fella.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Because its only a .......
……..blunder in our eyes . Most of the NFL paid attention to the OC position not the DC . And sorry I don’t bash my team when there down . I try to help them out with positive support rather than second guessing every move they make and bashing them . So its looks like I’m not even in you race so no need for me to catch up .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
You do realize
that this is the internet right?
Besides what is the point of having a forum or chat or what ever if its only:
The Bears rule YAAAA!!! They have awesome drafts!! Yaaa!! Mark Anderson is going to have 20 sacks this season!!! Woohoo….
I mean were fans…some like the moves they made and others do not….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
Just constuctive criticism.
We are only upset because we care.
Reminds me
of when I use to go to the offish forums….When some people did not like the moves the Bears made there was a poster there that would tell/scream at the other posters that there were 31 other NFL teams to cheer for….
Not that MidWayMonster is doing that just reminds me of that time frame….was pretty humorous sometimes….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
No I'm just.....
……….. sayin , we’re all Bears fan here so why all the hate ? You guys are speculating that we’re gonna suck due to us being a little slow getting our coaches together and due to us promoting from within . We should not assume anything at this point . Lets see how we come together first and then if we suck I’ll be the first one on here sayin it !
As it stands right now we got our coaching staff in place and at least thats done . Now we go into the free agency period . Lets wait and see if thats where we do some real improvments . More talent could make this staff look good .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Not because....
they were slow. Because they promoted from within on a staff that just lead us to the 4th worst points allowed in modern Bears history, brother. Doesn’t that make you sick?
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 5, 2010 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
It makes.......
………… me wonder whats going on sometimes , but I think we’ll be fine . With Rod being a detail oriented guy I think our D will improve . Having Urlacher and Pisa back will help and getting some free agents in will help get our talent level up . Players play the game not coaches so maybe some of the blame needs to go there too .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions
And if my Aunt had a penis
she’d be my Uncle. But let’s ignore the man behind the curtain and pay more attention to the all powerful OZ! Pollyanna isn’t being a “true fan” its drinking the kool-aide. Lovie hiring his son. Fire his sorry ass yesterday and get rid of the clowns letting him pull the strings; Angelo and Phillips.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
whoa whoa whoa
If your Aunt had a penis she wouldn’t automatically be your uncle. Ever heard of a hermaphrodite?
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Feb 5, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, and what if it was an aunt who married into the family?
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"I don’t care if Belichick wins twenty Super Bowls. He’s an asshole." - Da Coach
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
I am more
in the line of thinking that the defense has taken steps back since 07 first it was babich, then Lovie now marinilli….Not only the same defense but no change it according the HC himself….why stick with something when it is not working….give it new wrinkles and what not….Seeing marinilli promoted means to me that nothing will change because Lovie is blinded by his past success…..Teams evolve yet he is unwilling to….
As for martz since 04 his offenses have not been great….Though I have more hope for him cause he wants to be called genius and thrives for it….he fails here and he probably never coordinates again (seeing no one wanted to hire him to begin with)…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
I'm also dissapointed.
At the fact we won’t have any change at all on the defensive side of the ball!!!!!
This sucks………………….
While I'm ....
………… not in love with Rod as DC I think he’ll do fine . And the cover 2 still works just ask the Vikings and Colts . We just need to develope some of the same wrinkles they did . Say go with a bigger nose tackle , a run stuffer like Pat Williams instead of effort players like Anthony Adams .
As for Martz he has improved every offense he has touched . Hell he made the Lion look legit , be it for one season .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sorry if our complaints are bringing you down but....
my rose colored glasses broke about half way thru the season. Lovie went thru the motions when all along he wanted Martz. JA was against it and when they ran out of options they fell back to Martz and if you hadnt noticed no one else was clamoring for his services. Sure he had a great stint in St Louis but that was a long time ago. Will he be able to duplicate that success in Chicago? I hope so. As for the DC position: Williams said he’d be interested in the job!!!!! What was the hurry after they took their time hiring a OC. They couldnt wait another 3 days?! Really? I nearly threw my phone at the wall!!! I LOVE this team I’ve been a fan since ‘84 when I saw a highlight of “Sweetness”. I’ve followed this team and have been loyal to this team and only this team and it frustrates the heck out of me when I see decisions that dont make any sense to me. Do I wish them failure? NO! But I expect and demand that my team be competitve. And I hope when the season begins that my anger, frustration and fears will be proven wrong.
to me
this basically looks like a desperation move after all other options have failed. And the epic story of ole’ lovie and his buddies continues! boy oh boy am I excited!
Only Positive Thing I See From This
Is Rod Having a bit more power to go after Vince Wilfork and a DE. Also since Lovie loves Rams players maybe he’ll go after O.J. Antogwe.
if we add
Wilfork, Peppers, Kampman and Otogwe we will be unstoppable, and why stop there, sign Dunta Robinson and anyone you can get your hands on
that would put us in a winning scenario
That'd be imposs....oh wait.
I see what you’re doing there.
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
Thanks.
Sarcasm or not, that’s one I’m going to print out and put on my mom’s fridge!
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
Typical Bears
I’m not real surprised by either coordinator hire/promotion. I am not upset with Martz, even though I wonder why it took so long. I am not happy with Marinelli being the DC. Yes he has fire and passion but when has he been successful? When he has coached the D-line because that’s we he loved to do. If I am not mistaken wasn’t he quoted as saying that he wasn’t sure about being a DC because of all the additional work he wanted to do with the Dline?
This is obviously a scenario where Marinelli gets the title but Lovie still has his fingerprints all over that defense and the playcalling. If the defense improves at all next season, it will be because we stay healthy, plain and simple.
"When all is said and done, more is said than done" - Lou Holtz
by vinny numero uno on Feb 5, 2010 4:42 PM CST reply actions
If the defense improves next year...
It’ll be because they struck gold on a draft pick or FA D-lineman, who notches up 15 sacks. It will have little to do with coaching and playcalling, because that won’t be any different.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
Or
cuz Urlacher is back.
Pisa/Briggs stay healthy
And our young secondary (Al,Payne,Manning,Bowman,Graham) has another year of experience under their belts
Tommie continues to play as well as he did towards the tail end of this past season.
Insanity is defined as...
Doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results.
So, congratulations: you’re officially insane.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
per Albert Einstein
Edicus- you’re definitely insane because AE was the smartest human being ever, and was never wrong…ever!
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
Not entirely valid
For example, if I chop at a tree over and over, it’s going to take a long time, but eventually the tree will fall down.
Sorry,I just had to give you a hard time, I know you’re probably 1 level away from having steam come out of your ears like in a Warner Bros cartoon. No hard feelings!
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
I think, with this move, Lovie's going "Double or nothing" for 2010..
He has been true to his philosophy throughout, and this set of hires confirms this. The question is, what is beneath his philosophy – football principals or tragic pride of a captain going down with his ship?
It’s the worry of the latter that concerns me about the most recent coaching staff moves. I don’t think any of the people Lovie Hired are extremely bad at what they do – but I do worry that what Lovie is asking them to do may be fundamentally flawed. And, more than anything, I worry that Lovie is just buckling himself in to a ship that he already believes is going down.
This can't be true
And, more than anything, I worry that Lovie is just buckling himself in to a ship that he already believes is going down.
If it were, then he’d want to at the very least interview Williams before giving the scraps to his buddy Rod.
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
I'm shocked
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
by J Theory on Feb 5, 2010 5:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Wow...
I really expected we would get Perry Fewell for DC, to get some fresh thinking in along with Marinelli coaching the D-line and one of Cutler’s old coaches to be the OC..
Well, either this is going to give us a good year, or we are looking at a major clean out of coaches and brass along with a top 10 pick…
Honestly
The problem with the D last year was on 3rd down and people being out of position on plays, busted coverages etc…The D line was 9th in the league in sacks last year, there’s nothing shaky about that….If Marinelli is a stickler to details as they say he is, we can expect if nothing else to have guys where they are supposed to be, then its up to them to make the plays..We need a true Safety in the defensive backfield..The Bears D hasnt been the same since they let Mike Brown go…. Coincidence? The D will be fine if We get a safety and Peppers or Kampman…The cover 2 as a scheme is veeery broad and im sure they will have variations in it at least i hope they do…Im hoping the Offense picks up and cuts out the INT’s which put our d in alot of bad spots last year and kept us from putting points on the board…Cutler cuts that INT total in half and increases his touchdown passes, the Bears are gonna be scary
Dude and or Dudette
That’s a crazy big if.
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
You do realize
that martz offense there are alot of INTs (and sacks) right….the QBs TD to INT ratio is roughly hovering around 50% since 2004….So if anything Cutlers INTs will be the same or go up (since martz has not had a “Gunslinger” QB in his past offenses and martz goes nuts wanting to use Cutlers arm the same way ron turner did)….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
Seriously
I am thinking 30 picks….martz avged like 63% passing the last 5 seasons…..only singletary was able to dial down martz passing fancy….and Lovie is no singletray….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
I'll bet you ........
…………….right now that Cutlers pics will fall this season . Say in the range of 12 to 18 . And I’ll also bet his TD’s go up to say 28 to 34 . Martz will improve his mechanics and cut down on some of the bad mechanics INT’s .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
Sure I will take that bet
But here are some numbers for ya:
TDs to INTs since 2004
04 – 23 / 22
05 – 23 / 24
06 – 21 / 22
07 – 19 / 22
08 – 21 / 19
Not exactly great IMO (though you can say hey look who had to work with. But he is suppose to be a offensive genius)….I do think Cutler can hit 30 TDs though…..IF he can stay healthy (seeing as martz lead offenses since 04 give up roughly 53 sacks a season)…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
don't compare Cutler to Kitna or JT O'Sullivan
by DaHamsta on Feb 5, 2010 6:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ok warner and Bulger
04 and 05 were bulger
00 – 37 / 23
01 – 37 / 21
02 – 24 / 27
03 – 23 / 23
At least 20 INTs every year…..just hope everyone remembers that when cursing out Cutler for throwing a pick next season…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
Nice. I love it when facts make the point not hyperbole.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Look at the .......
……………. QB’s he was workin with those seasons . In 2004 and 2005 he had Mark Bulger , whos good when healthy , and Jamie Martin for parts of the 2005 season . Martin is a journeyman and is well not that great . In 2006 and 2007 he had John Kitna ( who had his best season as a pro under Martz ) , Luke McCown and Dan Orlovsky . And its the Lions and he made them look good . In 2008 he had Alex Smith and Shaun Hill to work with . So your gonna base his results off of these guys ? Not one of them have the talent of Cutler . Martz made Warner and Bulger look good from say 2000 to 2003 . And he made the playoffs with Warner and Bulger throwing INT’s so its possiable that all I’m sayin . As long as Jay cuts down on some of his mental errors and our recievers run their routes out he’ll be a 30+TD guy and a 12 to 18 INT guy .
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 5, 2010 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
They have from now till
week one to learn martz 600+ page play book….Change like that normally does not succeed….Can it happen yes….Not saying it cant but fans should know that martz offense’s generally throw a lot of picks and give up a lot of sacks…..I just hope most remember that IF Cutler has like 20-25 picks and is sacked 50+ times next season….
Note kitnas best season was in 03 when he had 3600 yards and 26 TDs and 15 INTs…One reason martz pushed for kitna…Also martz pushed for osullivan and forced him down nolan throat until singletary took over and forced martz to change or be fired (even getting into verbal altercations with singletary in the locker room)…..
Guess we will see….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
The Martz playbook I saw was only like 480
…just sayin. :(
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
That's a good bet.
INT rate is a highly variable statistic, and you’re best off regressing it heavily to the mean.
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Feb 5, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
Oh well
IF they fail next season I can only imagine the in fighting that will cause…
Lovie: Well we won with this type of defense before and the offense has proven to be prolific in the past….I mean we even added my sons as quality control assistants….So it must be the players I am given….
Angelo: Well I gave him everything he wanted in coaching and look where that got us….
Virginia: Its ok boys I will give you one more year…
Michael: Ya! So long as the fans pay the money to come in and they continue to by Bear merchandise, It’s all good!!! I don’t care what that SackMan or Dane Noble say….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
Well thats true
that has to count for something I guess…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
Well someone should get on the horn
and tell Phillips that i’m sure Charles rodgers and Matt Millen are available.
by Jhitt81 on Feb 5, 2010 6:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Larry Mayer
is going to act like this was a great move in his next “Chalk Talk.” He acts like every move the Bears make is a stroke of genius.
The only time the Mets win is in the offseason.
Whoa! Nazi reference maybe a little too strong?
But fine historic propaganda reference. Next time go with Pullitzer (King of yellow journalism)?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Probably a bit strong...
but that’s my complaint with Mayer. He’s NOT a journalist, but he pretends to be one. It’s one thing to hype a fight or overact to get attention, but Mayer is just a hypocrite. I do not have any moderate feelings for hypocrites. I find Don King funny when he makes outlandish statements, Mayer is just sad.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
Mayer is a puppet.
I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Feb 5, 2010 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
This is exactly...
what I was fearing. Martz and Marinelli are chosen end up as the coaches. Not because they are the first choice, but because they are the only choices left. I cannot say I am wholly surprised. At least when the Bears improve on offense and continue to decline on defense, I will feel vindicated about calling now for Lovie’s firing. 2010 will see a few things happen. First, Lovie will be fired by the end of another losing season, say 7-9. Martz will effectively end his coaching career by being dragged down by Marinelli again. The defense will be ranked in the bottom 3rd of the league and give up too many yards, 3rd down conversions, and points. Charles Tillman will lay his body on the line and be carted off the field by the 3rd game of the season. Thankfully, I can now rest assured that Lovie will no longer defile our Bears after this upcoming season.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
Hub stated on the Score the other day
that according to his sources Lovie talked to ownership about staying on for 2 more years because the offense is complicated….Hub then stated that from what he understand ownership (virginia and michael mccaskey) MIGHT give him 2 years (ie after the 2011 season)…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
But if we can't do anything to help
Best thing we can do, is hope for the best.
Hope this finally was the missing piece.
Every position coach makes this step on the hierarchy of Coaching someday.
Let’s hope Marinelli’s first will be good enough.
Hope we get something like the Saints this year.
BEAR DOWN!!
Next Marinelli will name his son-in-law as his D-line coach.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I feel cheated!!!
Many other organizations know what and who they want then go out and accomplish that by any means necessary, not our organization. First of all, they kept Lovie Smith when Gruden, Cowher, Shanahan, and Holmgren were all available to talk to at the end of the season. Every one of these guys is a better coach than Lovie Smith and I would trust Holmgren to do a way better job than JA at being a GM. Lovie Smith is an emotionless sub-par coach who can’t evaluate talent, coach players beyond their potential, or get past his ego of being some kind of defensive guru that he is not. Jerry Angelo couldn’t spot professional football talent if it came up and bit him in the ass. He has gotten lucky a few times, but by no means should he still have a job imo. Rod Marinelli didn’t work any kind of special magic on our D-line and should have been fired right with Lovie and JA. The DL might have been a little better than the horrible ‘08 effort, but by Chicago Bear standards, not even close to what memorable Bear D-lines have done in the past. Which brings me to my last point, the only person who got fired that should have got fired is Ron Turner. Now we all know what kind of mess was created by not firing all of them, exactly what the last four weeks have been. The two people who should have been let go immediately, Lovie Smith and JA, couldn’t even go through the hiring process correctly imho. They must really think we are idiots. Martz wanted the damn job from day one and Marinelli would have taken the DC spot right away. That just goes to show you the intelligence of JA and Lovie Smith. I don’t like any of the people we have in place right now from the owners down. I hope we suck next year and those incompetent owners of ours finally fire all of the people in place, including Ted Phillips, and start over with real NFL coaches…Gruden or Cowher!!!! Get somebody in that actually knows football talent as our GM and somebody else as president who know’s how to run a business properly. Virginia and Michael McCaskey, you don’t have to know anything about football, just hire people who do…Please, I am begging you.
Walter Payton lives on!!!
McCaskey will never pay for top shelf coaches
It’ll be someone like Jim Harbaugh as the next head coach, young and cheap.
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I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
I really don't hope they lose next year,
I just get pissed off at the way our team is run from top to bottom. I think that the only way things will really change is if the McCaskey’s sell the team.
Walter Payton lives on!!!
by monsterman34 on Feb 5, 2010 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
man what a mistake….
an underwhelming choice indeed
hopefully he sucks less than babich did at least.
looking forward to the likely continued floundering of the bears during free agency.
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I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
These coaches
are good coaches (dont really know about Day) but its gonna depend on the players this year and thats all that matter is how the players play the year. I think that they wont stand for another losing season, and i think we have the right coachs in place to motivate these players. My Prediction for the season 11-5.
Bears Space Shuttle, 2010 Edition
Can we start a new catagory? One which rates the best, and then the worst, run NFL teams.
What we’ve seen this past off season from the Bears is classic stuff. The kind of stuff us Bears fans will remember for a long time down the road. That road, in the future, which leads to NFL powerhouse. We’ll look back on this current edition of Bears, really, going back to the early 90’s, and laugh at just how poorly run the team was. And how coaching for the Bears was such a bad job that the team ended up taking only the leftovers of the league.
I think it’s sad when your favorite team, one many of us[e have cheered on for years, is so bad that your hoping they’ll suck so the whole lot of them can be run out of town and forced to live in exile in Gary, Indiana. And that then, and only then, real football types can come in and give us a real team.
I still think Tony Dungy must be held to task for recommending Smith to the Bears, with his seal of approval. How could they have known that Dungy was just ensuring we’d suck for years, then not have the guts to fire the guy.
by Rugmaster D on Feb 6, 2010 8:23 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I heard.....
Dennis Miller the whole time I was reading that, lol!
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 9, 2010 8:48 AM CST reply actions
Dang it! Failed with the reply button......
Was meant to be a response to Bears Space Shuttle 2010 Edition!!!!!
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
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