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Chicago Bears Roster Turnover: Linebacker

Wcg_thumb_roster_medium After finally touching on the defensive side of the ball last week with the D-Line, I'll move my series back a level and spotlight the Linebackers.  The Bears feel pretty comfortable with this group...  as long as they are all back 100%.  Losing two of your three starters in week one was a tough blow to overcome.  And while the reserves filled in as well as they could, you still don't want to count on them in a starting capacity for the majority of any season. 

If you're looking for a bright side to all the injuries; on the same day they placed their stand out middle linebacker on injured reserve, they signed a player that may be their special teams Ace for the next decade.  As long as Jerry Angelo can resign him that is...

Star-divide

LINEBACKERS - Those in the "trade Lance Briggs" and "trade Brian Urlacher" camps are almost as vocal as the "trade Devin Hester" society.  The Bears will never be able to trade Briggs because they'll never get what they perceive as equal value.  League wide Briggs is still viewed as a system guy.  I agree to a point.  Playing the weak-side linebacker spot fits his strengths, but they are still his strengths.  I think Briggs would be OK in any system, but having his replacement play so well on games he misses just gives "experts" more to point to. 

And Urlacher is too old and expensive for anyone to want to trade for.  I'm not saying he's washed up, because he's very important to what the Bears want to do and is still capable of playing at a high level.  It's just that teams won't take a chance on someone who's soon to be 32 with an injury history.  The Bears do have some decisions to make in their linebacking corps, but the key (as I already alluded to) is their health.

Brian Urlacher - Signed through 2012 - Or should I say Signed very very handsomely through 2012How key is Urlacher to the Bears Tampa 2 defense?  I though his replacements played as well as they could, but in nearly every game I saw a play or two that I just knew Urlacher would have made.  Whether it's his coverage skills (in zone and in man), his knowledge of the defense, or his sideline to sideline speed, Brian Urlacher would have made a difference.  The optimist in me is thinking the year off will do his back, neck, and legs well, but the pessimist in me is thinking he's at an age where most linebackers start to decline.  Whatever he is in 2010, he'll do it as a Bear.

Lance Briggs - Signed through 2013 - Yes, Briggs is getting paid very well too.  And well deserved.  I'll admit I was a bit disappointed he didn't take his play to an even higher level when Urlacher was lost for the season, but he is a Pro Bowl type player after all, so how much more could he have done.  I know it's the job of the MLB in the Bears system to make sure everyone is aligned properly and to make all the audibles, but Briggs should have as good a knowledge of the system as Urlacher, and him stepping up in a more vocal way is what I was looking for.  Briggs will again be patrolling the weak-side next year.

Pisa Tinoisamoa - Free Agent - I think this was the Bear most fans were excited to see in 2009.  His hustle and big hit potential he showed in preseason had Bears fans fired up.  He tried to come back from his knee injury, but did so possibly too early, and ended the year on IR.  While he is a free agent, "sources" report that he will be resigned.  I'd like him back, but I'll believe it when it's a done deal.

Hunter Hillenmeyer - Signed through 2011 - I thought Hillenmeyer had a very solid season.  Funny how he was on the bubble of being cut, then ends up getting so much playing time due to the injuries.  I think HH has great value to the Bears.  If everyone is healthy he's relegated to backup duty, but he can play all 3 LB spots, and he'll be a core special teamer.  He's due $1.7 million in 2010, a lot for a backup, but he showed his worth in '09.  I think he'll be back next year.

Nick Roach - Restricted Free Agent - I think Roach will be back.  He filled in at middle and the strong side last year, and shouldn't be too expensive to resign.  He had some positive moments last season, and the arrow is pointing up on him.

Jamar Williams - Free Agent - He's had some nice games filling in for Briggs on the weak-side.  If the CBA is agreed upon (which looks less likely every passing day) Williams will have his freedom.  If not he'll be a restricted free agent.  I think the Bears would like to keep him around, but they may explore trading his rights.

Tim Shaw - Exclusive rights free agent - Shaw ain't goin no where.  He excelled on special teams, and is a lock to return.  With the way he flies around covering kicks, I can see Shaw entering that "cult-like" group of Bears favorites.

Darrell McClover - Free Agent - I think the Bears will chose not to resign McClover.  He's a solid special teams option if a need arises, but I think they'll take their chances that he won't get scooped up and bring him back if an injury occurs (like they did last year).

Kevin Malast - Signed a reserve/future contract - Malast was a guy that had a solid preseason last year.  He had some time on the practice squad in '09 and will be around competing in camp.

2010 LB OUTLOOK - I really don't see much change going down with this group.  I doubt a free agent will be signed, other than Pisa, Roach, and/or Williams.  And I don't see a need to draft a guy.  Obviously if a highly rated linebacker slips to them at some point in the draft you could pull the trigger, but if someone slips I'd expect Jerry Angelo to trade down to acquire more picks (maybe even some 2011 selections).  I'm sure a few undrafted free agents will be brought in for a look-see.

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Stud
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meh...
120 votes
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find anything at all that I disagree with here. Great write-up.

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by T-Train on Feb 9, 2010 8:21 AM CST reply actions  

Ditto,

Linebackers are perhaps our smallest problem if a problem at all.

by Big Ike on Feb 9, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

my take

“but having his replacement play so well on games he misses just gives “experts” more to point to."
The above is my thought on Briggs as well, and I hope you include yourself in the category of “expert” Wilt. I’m glad to see your observation that Briggs didn’t step it up when he had the stage to himself. He had stats but did not step up into a LEADERSHIP role is what I think you were alluding to. All in all, a good fit for the Bears on the weakside.

Urlacher is coming back with a lot to prove, and the year off should help him do it. He will come back in excellent shape and barring injury he could have a pro bowl season. I agree with Wilt that in most every game there were examples of plays that no one else on the team could have made but Urlacher, and of course there is the Leadership intangible, which cannot be measured but without which a team cannot expect to do well.

The rest of the linebackers are a good group and should once again be a cornerstone of the Bears defensive unit. My thoughts on Shaw is that he is a reincarnation of Hunter Hillenmeyer, a student of the game, puts himself in positions to succeed, but lacks the raw athleticism of Briggs or Urlacher.

"I am not an animal!" - Merrick

by Maelvampyre on Feb 9, 2010 8:21 AM CST reply actions  

all good points.....

very astute on Shaw. I would only amend “in most every game there were examples of plays that no one else on the team could have made but Urlacher” to read:

“few others in the league” rather than “no one else on the team”. Urlacher’s unique skill set makes him so important in the Cover 2. Almost no other player in the league has that combination of size, speed, athleticism mixed with the knowledge and experience he brings having been a safety in college. I don’t want to sound like a shill, but Brian was built to be a Cover 2 MLB. Nobody in the league does what he does better. He might not be great in other systems, but in this one, he’s tops.

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by T-Train on Feb 9, 2010 8:32 AM CST up reply actions  

good stuff

When I did my Tampa 2 / Cover 2 write up a while back, I mentioned how Urlacher was the ideal player for the middle linebacker due to his skill set. He is so important to what the Bears do.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 9, 2010 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed......

And Briggs is also a perfect fit for the system. He gets a lot of crap for being hyped while playing next to 54, but I contend that is exactly what he was put there for. He’s being crapped on for being the best at what he does in the situation he was placed in, seems silly to me. He fits the role perfectly. I have a lot of excitement to see Pisa in the Sam role, as he fits the perfect skill set for that spot on this team. Should be interesting, assuming the Bears don’t screw up resigning him. Over-all, the strongest and deepest corps on the team……

Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.

Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

by T-Train on Feb 9, 2010 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

54

a close eye has to be kept on him though. Angelo need to start grooming someone to be his replacement and after last year it is clear that nobody currently on this team is that guy.

by Fuelfire on Feb 9, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't agree with you on the

Shaw = Hillenmeyer thing. Shaw puts nasty licks on guys. I saw him throw his whole body into a hit. I think thi guys is just an animal that loves to bring pain. Now HH isn’t quite the same. He is mainly just a smart player who is i nthe right spot. He’s not very fast or strong. He doesn’t put huge hits on guys, he just brings them down. Shaw kills guys Lol

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Feb 9, 2010 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah in my view watching him, Shaw looks to have Hunter beat as far as athleticism goes

As far as knowledge wise, who else to help groom him then Lach / HH

Resign Pisa now, the guy is talented and he will be healthy going into next season

by Chitownproduct on Feb 10, 2010 4:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I said "meh"

only because while he’s a total stud on special teams, i reserve my right to trash him for his ability to cover effectively in the defensive scheme.

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by Kev H on Feb 9, 2010 8:51 AM CST reply actions  

my only thought

i’m sure urlacher can still play football well, but i don’t know if he can be a good cover 2 guy anymore. ten years in the league….he can’t be as fast as he once was. though i’m sure he’s better than HH.

we shall see.

by Hatchetm on Feb 9, 2010 9:02 AM CST reply actions  

Some strategic decisions to make...

and Lovie and JA have not done well planning for the future with this team. The LBs are probably the most solid group on the defense, but with only 2 starters signed and Hilly to back up, the coaches need to decide what they can do to retain the depth or how to develop the starters for 2011/2012. Roach, Shaw, and Hilly can be the back-ups and ST guys for next season without much money being committed. Pisa, if he can stay healthy (that’s a big IF), would be the ideal SLB. The Bears really need to decide if Malast can break through and be a developmental LB/ST guy and if they want to retain Williams.
My hope is Pisa can be the guy, but I have serious doubts he can stay healthy. I am more concerned about replacing Urlacher, but with so many defensive holes, IMO, LBs may have to wait until next season as long as the depth guys(Roach, Shaw, Williams) and Pisa can be signed on.
Hopefully, the DT and DE positions can be significantly upgraded and give the Bears some time so that Urlacher and Briggs don’t wear out too quickly. Otherwise 2010 may truly be the end of this defense and Urlacher.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Feb 9, 2010 9:20 AM CST reply actions  

Great write-up

I voted Shaw as a stud, with the assumption that you meant Stud Special Teamer. I think he’s a good fit for Toub’s special teams system that seems to rely on lots of back-up LBs and WRs to do most of the dirty work on the coverage units.

I was sad when Pisa got hurt and I hope he comes back and can stay healthy because those 3 (Urlacher, Briggs, Pisa) are probably the 3 best for the cover-2 system in the league.

by GallopingGhost on Feb 9, 2010 10:17 AM CST reply actions  

WCG comes out with an article on our linebackers

on the same day the Tribune comes out with an article on the SAME THING. Coincidence? (most likely) Or is Lester A. Wiltfong Jr really Brad Biggs writing under a pseudonym? When is the last time we saw Lester and Brad in the same room at the same time? Think about it….

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Feb 9, 2010 11:18 AM CST reply actions  

haha!

we are both running a very similar series… I’m givin a bit more though! And for the record I started mine before the Trib!

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 9, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not me!

But I don’t think it’s random in Lester’s posts. He does it separate items for less confusion, and when he wants to emphasize a point. :]

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by HoneyBear on Feb 9, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

It's all me!

This would be random. But, this, this, has a purpose.

:)

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 9, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

tHaT is

aWeSoMe

Price Check on aisle BOOM.

by Ditkavsworld on Feb 10, 2010 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Emphasis is lost

With how common it is.

And I’m not talking “Lance Briggs – signed through xxxx” bits but the

(in zone and in man)

And the

The Bears feel pretty comfortable with this groupas long as they are all back 100%.

bits.

by Arbusto on Feb 10, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the Journalism 101 info...

I am just an artist, and the keyboard and words are my only tools…

It’s my style, and it always will be… until a better one comes along that is…

Sorry it brings you such displeasure…

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 10, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Its all about health and if we sign Pisa again.

If Urlacher, Pisa, and Briggs can all stay healthy next season…they will be one of the best LB corps in the league imho. Tim Shaw is a beast on SP from what I saw, we have to keep him. HH did a decent job at ML filling in for Urlacher, I would keep him for back-up at that position just in case. I like both Roach and Williams, hope to see both of them back.

Walter Payton lives on!!!

by monsterman34 on Feb 9, 2010 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

Tim Shaw makes Hunter Hillenmeyer trade bait

HH plus a 4th rounder should get us a 2nd round pick (Kam Chancellor)

by No It All on Feb 9, 2010 1:36 PM CST reply actions  

You'll find a way to work Kam Chancellor into any thread won't you?

I can’t wait to see what you do with my Roster Turnover: Defensive Backs… (Thursday morning)You’re gonna love it.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 9, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

prove it.

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by David Taylor on Feb 9, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

the suspense is killing me...

I just hope it isn’t JA speak about how good our secondary is and how we have no need for improvements…. : )

by No It All on Feb 9, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok ' I'll bite............

………… whats with the obsession with Kam Chancellor ? Don’t we already have enough strong safties playing out of position ?

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 9, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry but .....

…………. this season at VT he was a rover which is a glorified line backer . Also his speed is that of a strong safety ( 4.59 in the 40 ) not of a free safety . And by no means I’m I saying I don’t like him all I’m sayin is I think the pick should go in a differnet direction .

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 9, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Really ? Check your .......

………facts there bud . He started out as a QB , was moved to cornerback , lined up at free safety during spring practice but when the season started he was the satrting rover . Thus this makes him a rover NOT a free safety . He lined up at corner and QB too so you callin him a corner and a QB now too ?

The man is a ROVER period . He has the skill set and build of a safety …… a strong safety . And sorry can’t give you a link to the info but if you have a ESPNInsider account you can check out there . So sorry you lose .

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 9, 2010 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Whatever Finkle, u don't have a link because any link that exists has him as a FREE safety...

that is because he is umm a free safety. doh.

fiction can be fun but i find the reference section much more enlightening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pghwki1uG6k

by No It All on Feb 9, 2010 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Here you go .........

……….Theres the link to your ROVER .

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 9, 2010 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

So what position did....

………. he play this past season ROVER . I went to the NEB game and he looked alot like a ROVER .

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 9, 2010 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll give you this.........

………….. most list him as a FS but he played the Rover position this past season . Also you act like hes gonna be a Bear . He’s a solid second rounder and last I checked we don’t have a second round pick so this whole little issue with his position is a moot point .

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 9, 2010 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice work with the link.... PUHLEASE

here is the official VTech website : http://www.hokiesports.com/football/players/chancellor_kam.html

What does it list him as? Free Safety. But by all means keep digging this hole you are in as I am sure you know better then him, his coaches and his athletic director.

Roving is basically what a good free safety does. Also known as pre-snap adjustments. If you think he is going to play a different position in the pros that is one thing, but saying he was not a free safety is just silly.

by No It All on Feb 9, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

and fyi

we are going to move into the second to draft him… I will not tolerate any discussion that claims otherwise.

by No It All on Feb 9, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

FYI ....

………. Mel Kiper Jr and Todd McShay both have him graded out as a third rounder and both view his pro position as SS . They say hes too tight in the hips for FS and dosen’t have the recovery speed to be a FS .

And its not that I don’t like him as a player its just there are better FS’s out there that may be avaiable to us in the third . Or if your theory holds true there are much better FS’s in the second round ……… heres a few names for ya

Nate Allen FS from USF
Darrell Stucky from Kansas
Taylor Mays from USC
Myron Rolle from FSU

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 9, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

good i hope you are right

and Chancellor is there for us in the 3rd round because other GMs think those guys are better then him. Like i said above there is a big diff. between saying he will play a different position and saying he did play a different position ie it is as if u are saying Urlacher was a LB in college.

and kiper and mcshay have never been wrong. nope not ever.

by No It All on Feb 9, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Urlacher ....

……. was just a special player period . As for your assessment on Kiper / McShay could we maybe tone down the sarcasm just a little bit ?

Kam wasn’t a difference maker game in and game out in college . He’s a good player with room to improve but we need a difference maker at FS . Honestly I think Myron Rolle is our guy . Hes the smartest guy in the draft ( Rhodes scholar ) , has great instincts and reminds me of a young , healthy Mike Brown . Kam seems to be a carbon copy of Aaron Rouse , another VT alum . Heres a question for you can you explain why Kam is such a great player and why we should be trading up to take him ? And maybe your answer could be minus the sarsasm and just an honest answer .

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 9, 2010 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

wow, never known somebody to be so sensitive about mel kiper and todd mcshay before.

I’m sure they’ll be glad to know they have such a fervent admirer.

I have seen Kam Chancellor play. While I am not a talent scout I do have the ability to occasionally discern a college player with transcendent talent. I am a Pac 10/ACC guy so usually the guys I pinpoint are from those conferences if not specifically the University of Arizona or the University of Miami. Having watched Chancellor v. the U and other teams, I am, let’s say a believer. Last guy I felt this strongly about was a guy named Devin Hester from Miami… so um trust me. yeah, trust me.

by No It All on Feb 9, 2010 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

You've never been wrong though . Nope not ever ......

……… sorry had to do it . At least now I see where all your Kam love is comin from . As I’ve said before if we get him thats great but at this point its a bit of a pipe dream . He’s a second to third round guy so theres a chance . One problem though JA ain’t a trade up guy and to get Kam we’d have to trade up so ……

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 10, 2010 1:27 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah JA is a big obstacle to my plan coming to fruition

but oh how he would redeem himself in my eyes if he were to pull this off.

by No It All on Feb 10, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Thats a .....

……. Grand Canyon size obstacle there , but maybe Kam will be your Evil Knievel and jump that big hole !

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 10, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I like that idea.

We need help in the secondary no matter what. We have an abundance of LB’s. HH did a decent job filling in for BU, not fantastic by any stretch of the imagination.

Walter Payton lives on!!!

by monsterman34 on Feb 9, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

shaw reminds me of watching todd johnson rock special teams

except shaw hits even harder. he is my favorite st guy to watch outside of returner.

by reefermadness3 on Feb 9, 2010 2:49 PM CST reply actions  

Nice to have him since we don't have...

Ayanbada…., you know who I’m talking about : )

Walter Payton lives on!!!

by monsterman34 on Feb 9, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Tim Shaw

Is a god.The poll should have had only stud as a choice.

by JordanRay on Feb 9, 2010 4:05 PM CST reply actions  

LOL

I was actually going to do that!!!

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 9, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

funny thing is...

some people were hatin on him on this site when we first picked him up. Now everyone loves the guy. Funny how that works : )

Walter Payton lives on!!!

by monsterman34 on Feb 10, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I was down on the pickup because of the situation

We lose 2 starting LBs and all we picked up were 2 ST LBs in Shaw and McClover. I just felt we stockpile too many mediocre players who know ST rather than keep players with potential at their actual position who we can teach to play ST. Toub’s proven himself one of the best ST coaches and teachers in the NFL, I feel he can put improve anyone’s ST ability.

I voted that Shaw was a stud. Hope he can earn some play time as an LB.

by SaintCee on Feb 11, 2010 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I was one of those guys...

that expected nothing from him. I knew McClover would be OK in special teams because he did it in teh past for Chi, but Shaw???

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 11, 2010 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

honestly, I didn't know who the guy was...

he definitely impressed me with his SP play, but after losing two starting LB’s like you said, I was hoping for a starting replacement (Derrick Brooks). I am very happy we have TS now and hope he does get to see some time at LB.

Walter Payton lives on!!!

by monsterman34 on Feb 11, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

i would have voted for that

he was definitely my favorite fa pickup by a country mile this year and probably for awhile after. definitely a chicago type guy

by reefermadness3 on Feb 9, 2010 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Right from his first monster hit on a KO return

I remember the game thread, we were all trying to work out who laid on the hurt :-D

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by Spongie on Feb 10, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

You asked for it.
I was poking around the internet today and came across some quotes by new Bears OC Mike Martz.

Wait a minute, you’ve been on the INTERNET lately?!?!?! Interesting, the internet is on computers now. Welcome back to the land of the lost.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Feb 9, 2010 10:36 PM CST reply actions  

WOW COMPLETE POST FAIL.

Sorry, let me move this.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Feb 9, 2010 10:40 PM CST reply actions  

Reply fail to post fail to myself.

Triple fail to the failth degree. I suck at life.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Feb 9, 2010 10:41 PM CST up reply actions  

For the record...

I enjoyed the series of fail.

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by David Taylor on Feb 10, 2010 7:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh Jebus ...

“I think Briggs would be OK in any system”

- Stunning insight, y’think ?

“I though his replacements played as well as they could, but in nearly every game I saw a play or two that I just knew Urlacher would have made.”

 - Try about 50% of them. HH had what, 90 tackles ? Patrick Willis had 150 ? Urlacher would have been 135 +. What was Hillenmeyer doing ? He was middle linebacker for the Chicago Bears ! 90 tackles ? he ahd ONE good game all season – Minnesota, end of the season. He absolutely sucked in the other 15 games. He’s lost in coverage, can’t tackle, he’s too small (gives up 35lbs to Urlacher!)

On Jamar Williams : " He’s had some nice games filling in for Briggs on the weak-side"

-21 tackles in one game, y’think ? He’s a monster.

“Tim Shaw – Exclusive rights free agent – Shaw ain’t goin no where. He excelled on special teams, and is a lock to return. With the way he flies around covering kicks, I can see Shaw entering that “cult-like” group of Bears favorites."

- Like Brendan Abandeyo ? Chris Harris ? Thomas Jones ? Mike Brown ? Berrian ?

“2010 LB OUTLOOK – I really don’t see much change going down with this group. I doubt a free agent will be signed, other than Pisa, Roach, and/or Williams. And I don’t see a need to draft a guy.”

- After saying Urlacher is getting old, we don’t need a middle linebacker ? We need one ASAP – look what happened last year ! Hunter Hillenmeyer is your answer to the legacy of Dick Butkus, Mike Singletary, and Brian Urlacher. HH is not fit to hold their jockstraps. One good game out of 15 is not getting it done at an NFL level. Neither is this entire post …

by Irish Bears Fan on Feb 10, 2010 1:26 AM CST reply actions  

love the fire and passion...

this place is getting to be like mr. rogers neighborhood.

by Hatchetm on Feb 10, 2010 8:10 AM CST up reply actions  

huh?

how exactly is that?

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by David Taylor on Feb 10, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

everybody's fine everybody's above average

we just need to get better we just need to try harder matt forte is a great back greg olsen is fantastic urlacher will make the defense great again williams is a pro-bowler kruetz was just hurt blah blah blah.

by Hatchetm on Feb 10, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Forte is great?

Can we at least let the kid crack a 4.0 average before you go there!

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 10, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

it's like an endless excuse tree

where ever problem eventually goes back to orlando pace and urlacher’s injury.

by Hatchetm on Feb 10, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Pace?

What? In hindsight Pace was a mistake, and I expect him to be cut… and losing your starting MLB was a big blow to the D. What excuse was made?

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 10, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

i'm not referring to you in particular

but when you have completed your series i’d like you to prioritize the biggest needs and which players are not part of the solution.

IMO this team has major major holes in the talent department. especially on both lines.

by Hatchetm on Feb 10, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

IMO this team has major major holes in the talent department.

Of course it does. No one has argued that. How does that make us “Mr. Rogers”?

This site is a collective of differences in opinions. I could do the same thing you did above and pick out a bunch of different statements people have made that make WCG sound like a bunch of pessimist.

And, yes, excuses can be made for everything – some are legit, some are not. We can only back our beliefs up by what we see and what the numbers tell us. Which is what we try to do.

In my opinion, this site has a good blend of optimistic and pessimist opinions that appear on the site daily.

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by David Taylor on Feb 10, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

The series is my thoughts on what I think will happen in 2010.

Not what I would do if I were in charge.

If I had the keys to run the show, realistically speaking, I’d go get a real FS, sign Peppers, acquire a bruising RT/or move Omiyale to RT and sign a bruising LG, get a RB, bring in a WR

I say realistically because some people would like to turnover most of the roster. That just ain’t realistic. Would I like better players 1 to 53, of course, but again, it’s just not feasible.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 10, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

i think signing three impact FA's

is realistic for a normal team. not so sure about the bears…

by Hatchetm on Feb 10, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

What 3 impact FA's would you like to see the Bears sign?

And remember with the CBA issue, there won’t be many unrestricted FA’s out there…

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 10, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

too early to tell

i would focus on guys who get cut b/c they make too much money or have injury issues or something. like reuben brown, not so much orlando pace. it may be too hard for our scouts to look at some tape and figure out who can actually play, though.

by Hatchetm on Feb 10, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

While Brown was a solid signing

At the time no one considerd him an Impact player.

I’m sure some high priced older guys will be cut with no cap in place for next year, but I question how much talent will be in the group.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 10, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Brown was

32 years old and had been in the pro bowl for 8 straight years, while being known for not being injury prone…. Yes Please, I’ll take 2.

by No It All on Feb 10, 2010 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, he was a nice pick up for sure

Now if the Bears could just get a few teams to cut some All Pros, they could rebuild the roster!

This free agent class is looking to be poor one.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 10, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

by impact

i don’t mean julius peppers. obviously the bears don’t do things like that. silly even to talk about. i mean somebody who can come in and be an above average starter for a couple years.

by Hatchetm on Feb 10, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

gotcha!

With some cash due off the books, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Bears go after Peppers (once someone else sets the market that is!)

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 10, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously??

I will be shocked if they go after Peppers.

by No It All on Feb 10, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Why?

When I wrote the roster turnover on the RB’s I said his skill set may be better suited to be a 3rd down back.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 10, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

sorry for the confusion, wasn't replying to you...

nonetheless, I think Forte is pretty damn good. He was injured, bad line (excuses but still) and he still had greater then or equal to the # of receptions as any of our receiver who JA thinks are amazing. The entire offense has been woeful but I don’t think that is on Forte as much as it is a result of Turner’s incompetence. I think the team would be best suited getting a good #2 back with speed or power (Gerhart is my guy, but Jerious Norwood would be good too) then trying to get a #1 back better then Forte. Kevin Jones is not the answer nor is Wolfe, nor is Adrian ’Predator Peterson.

by No It All on Feb 10, 2010 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

reading comments from you makes me slee..

Zzzzzzzz… Zzzzzzzzz…

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Feb 10, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Shhh.....

Sleeping.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Feb 10, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

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