Monday Night Musings: What's the Bears first free agency move?
Free agency. We can almost smell it. We all want the Bears to go hard in free agency, bring in all the pieces that'll fix it. Go out...spend...fix it now.
I think we all also would probably like a gajillion dollars and a sweet underground lair.
That said, even with Ted Phillips saying they weren't going to go "hog wild" in Free Agency a couple weeks ago, the company line seems to have changed.
So what's the first move going to be?
The Bears will enter free agency next Friday with an open mind and an open checkbook. But just how active they’ll be will be determined by what’s available on the open market.
This is from Larry Mayer over at chicagobears.com. So the line seems to have been changed a bit--they'll spend, but only on the right players.
The big rumor is, of course, Julius Peppers. Peppers, when playing at 100% and giving it his all, is a beast. Other big names floating around are Kampman, Rolle, Sharper, that sort of thing.
Sean Jensen wrote an article yesterday about why the Bears have to be players in free agency. He makes a lot of great points.
That said, the first signing, I think, isn't going to be your big name DE or safety. I think you're going to be seeing a move like the rumored interest in Manumaleuna.
Your big profile players like Peppers are going to entertain a lot of offers, and take some time to consider their offers. A move like Manumaleuna shows that the Bears are willing to go out and make things happen, and could show their other targets that they are, indeed interested.
So I'm going to say here now--our first free agency signing won't be our biggest. What think you?
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I'm hearing that he won't be much of a bargain...
in cost comparison to Peppers as originally thought. He’ll get only slightly less $$ than JP.
by Dewey LaMarr Hoyt on Mar 1, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Honestly i think we will pursure Peppers but i feel the bidding may get high
Kampman as i have said is a hell of a player and only time will tell
by Bear Lovin 21 on Mar 1, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
I agree on Kampman...
being a hell of player. But the original line of thought was that we could get him and another high quality player for what it would cost to sign Peppers. Now that no longer seems to be the case unless we’re talking about a Special Teamer.
by Dewey LaMarr Hoyt on Mar 1, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
I am thinking Peppers.
At first, the most believable DE aquistion was Kampman because I figured he would be a bargain and kind of blue collar like the Bears and their fans. The more I see and hear, they are going after Peppers really strong. I hope they get him. I would love to see us pickup CT for RB. LT or Leon Washington would be my second choice. TJ would be my first choice for FA RB if JA didn’t FUBAR the situation with him.
Walter Payton lives on!!!
by monsterman34 on Mar 1, 2010 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure about Kampman
How is he going to command similar money as JP when his injury is still a concern? Grant it, ACL injuries aren’t as difficult to come back from, but he tore it in November. That’s less than a year to recover and attempt to play as an impact DE.
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
Expect the Bears to be very big players in Free Agency.
The trio of stooges are in "save your job" mode, and Ted Phillips is the one who authorizes the spending. They have no 1st day draft picks to help make an immediate impact on the field, and therefore must use free agency to improve the roster in order to win next year.
If they sign the right guys, they’ll win games and keep their jobs. If they fail, they’ll lose their jobs, and they’re not on the hook for the bad contracts anyway.
*Don’t mind my cut and paste from another comment of mine.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Agreed
The stooges are desparate, and if they don’t make an impact in free agency, then it won’t matter if they “broke the bank” because they’ll be out of work. I see them maxing out whatever salary cap room they have left… This is where the decisions to give Harris, Vasher and Hester big contracts may come back to bite them in the butt…
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
I would almost rather have them splurge in Free Agency on proven players...
rather than take a chance on a potential 1st round bust or a 2nd rounder who doesn’t quite live up to his potential. As long as we can fill some holes with some quality players, that would satisfy me. The Bears in recent history haven’t done much in the draft and free agency (barring the Jay Cutler trade obviously).
Isn't there a backup offensive lineman...
we can bring in, overpay and move out of his natural position?
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We'll do that at midnight of Free Agency.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Then lets draft at least 2 strong safeties.
And try them at free safety cause, ya know, the 2 positions are interchangeable in our scheme.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I'm particularly fond of one of our strong safeties.
…just sayin’. Hi Mr. Payne!
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Actually its funny you say that...
Because the Tampa 2 should have two nearly interchangeable safeties…
But they should both resemble Free Safeties, because both are required to cover the entire deep half of their side of the field in almost all of our zone coverage packages!
Why we stock Strong Safeties when our scheme primarily relies on Safety play OUTSIDE of the box is beyond me, but Lovie is 50% right….The two should interchangeable, they should just both look more like Free Safeties and we never look at any of those.
by Brendan Hess on Mar 2, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Lovie might be dyslexic. Strong, Free, it’s all the same to him?
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"if we need it, we’re not drafting it. not high anyway. look for Angelo to go after a DL/DE – because that’s just the kind of asshat he is.." - junkhorse
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
Better yet
Trade for Mike Brown then make him defensive coordinator because it’s soooo obvious he’d be great!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
As for Rolle and the safety position...
Recall that the Bears didn’t have any interest in Darren Sharper, because he “freelances.” And, also recall that Lovie had a conflict with Ricky Manning Jr, because he was freelancing, despite intercepting a bunch of passes.
Well… Rolle is another safety who likes to freelance. Something’s gotta give, but I’d wager it won’t be Lovie’s ego.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I think they'll be fairly active in FA
I think we can land Peppers, for better or worse. Possibly Rolle but it seems like he wants to stay in AZ and that they might try to sign him back.
RB
I don’t know why Sean Jensen states in his article that Matt Forte is “entrenched.” If we can get an RB (or 2?) to share the load with him, spell him for a third of the downs, or replace him altogether, I’m all for it.
I’ve been watching football for over 30 years, and I can’t recall an RB ever starting all 16 games, and getting the bulk of the carries, and still not rushing for a 1,000 yards. “Entrenched” my ass…
by Dewey LaMarr Hoyt on Mar 1, 2010 8:28 PM CST reply actions
You weren’t watching the Bears very closely, then… but this topic has been done to death already. You can find discussions about it aplenty here.
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"if we need it, we’re not drafting it. not high anyway. look for Angelo to go after a DL/DE – because that’s just the kind of asshat he is.." - junkhorse
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
What about Westbrook?
he’s a high character guy, has had injury issues just like LT and would probably be cheaper. He also probably knows he’ll have to split more time with another back on whatever team he goes to, unlike LT who still thinks he’s the premier/every down back he used to be.
No way.
He’s 1 more big hit to the head from retirement. RB’s get hit in the head all the time. He should just retire.
by Mike Mueller on Mar 2, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
trade Olsen for Boldin
Sign Peppers and Rhodes, Clark, or Rolle then draft the best available at RB, OL , DB. Then I wake up.
by Ryan21 on Mar 1, 2010 8:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions
thats why we trade Olsen for Boldin
I think that is a pretty solid group of recievers. They may not get a better offer than that either.
by Ryan21 on Mar 1, 2010 8:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sounds good, but...
what’s Boldin’s contract status anyway and what would he cost us if we have to tear it up and re-do it?
I’m all for Boldin though, since our TE’s will be basically T’s on most downs.
by Dewey LaMarr Hoyt on Mar 1, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
i would love to have Blount
I’d take anyone who will punch u in the face for talkin smack after their team just won.
by Ryan21 on Mar 2, 2010 8:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah then we could be like the Raider's organization!!!
We could also play gangsta rap at our games!
They play plenty of rap at soldier field.
"How sad, another victim of the Night Nurses from Jersey."
I have seen him play at U of O
and he is just a beast. Definately physically ready for the NFL and has deceptive speed. As long as he stays away from cold cocking anybody in NFL hes perfect for the Bears, if not, then the Raiders or Bengals will gladly pick him up. Other than that hes a perfect complement to Forte!
Hey hey hey
I’d say don’t let the door hit you on the way out but it’s far more likely to knock you down and hit Cutler instead.
by emdub on Mar 1, 2010 8:47 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
peppers
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peppers is gonna cost around $17 million per year
i would do it, but i don’t think the bears will. Rolle would be nice. sign peppers and draft kam chancellor, that’d be nice.
stay tuned...
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
I would be happy with that.
Walter Payton lives on!!!
by monsterman34 on Mar 1, 2010 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
No wya peppers gets 17 mil per year
It will be right around 12 – 13 mil.
Idk
With big spenders like the Redskins in play, the bidding may end up going that high. Stay tuned until late Thursday….
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
Since they threw mountains of cash at Hanesworth, I'm not convinced they'll
repeat that kind of spending on the defensive line. Plus they drafted Orakpo who was a stud last year. With Shanahan on board, I would bet most of their FA spending would go towards an offense that was 22nd in the NFL last year. Just a hunch on my part.
by Mike Mueller on Mar 2, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
All valid points
but we’re talking Dan Snyder here in an uncapped year. It would make the most sense for them to acquire offensive line, WRs, and RBs.
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
it is imperative that we get either
Peppers or Kampman. My opinion is we get defensive help via FA and use the draft to get Oline help. It just seems obvious to me with so many solid players on defense available and our many needs on defense that that is where we should get our defensive help.
That's what I'm thinking
D in free agency and ol with our first pick.
by DaHamsta on Mar 2, 2010 6:52 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Big signing first
They’ll land either Peppers or Kampman early on the first or second day of free-agency. Lesser players will wait, cause there’s less demand for them.
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
While I agree we ink a big-name early in FA...
The first signing will be some washed up player that Lovie Smith has coached in the past that will take a roster spot from a young promising talent on the team, leaving us scratching our heads once again.
Roll Tide... National Champs!!!
Ive got a feeling the Bears are gonna get Peppers
Bears management have no choice but to make a BIG no make that HUGE impact in free agency….there are multiple players available at the positions we need and if the Bears dont do something there’s a strong possibility they will lose Bear fans along the way…They better do something HUGE to infuse some excitement in the fanbase or it just might be a long season
Kobe isnt good, he's just better than your favorite player
Jobs are on the line
if the Bears dont do something there’s a strong possibility they will lose Bear fans along the way…
They’ll lose more than just fans- lots of games too!
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
and they'll lost money...
I wonder if the Bears are familiar with the statement you have to spend money to make money?
I keep hearing Peppers name mentioned, but as I recall he hates cold weather.
Look for him to go to a team in the southeast, closer to his family in Florida. Then, once he has the big contract inked he’ll become the next Tommie Harris (2007-2009).
I would love Peppers but...
I think we could possibly get Rolle/Sharper and Kampman for the amount of money Peppers wants. Filling 2 holes for the price of 1…
They have enough for Peppers & the rest
The budget is apparently set at 25/30 mil. That leaves 13-15 on JP,5-8 on Rolle,About 1-2 mil. on the TE,& 3-5 Mil. on Taylor. Thats a pretty good off season. Thats w/in the proposed budget. Then if they get Kampan as a consolation thats 7-10 Mil. more to get a couple more guys like maybe get a SS like Clark in Pitt. where he can easily play w/his physical style & an experienced OL guy for depth.
by jackhammerebm on Mar 2, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
where did you see the 25/30 million budget number?
Do you have a link?
by Mike Mueller on Mar 2, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
I have a link.
Because I am a master of teh intarwebs.
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
I'm not sure you know...
…but he did that on purpose, I think. Hence the incorrect spelling of “interwebs” as well. Makes me think of LOLcat speak. :]
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Mar 2, 2010 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I wuv kittehs... :]
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Mar 3, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
I have no idea why...
But I HAVE to rec that, just for making my day.
by Steven Schweickert on Mar 3, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
I know why...
because it’s a cute wittle kitty cat playing the piano like it’s a steak. Lol.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
I think it'll be the TE.
I would really love to add Sproles to the conversation. He’s a great change up back in the nickle offense. He’d fit in this system like a glove. Imagine our nickle package w/Sproles & Hester in the slot. It would guarantee one on one matchups at the X,&Z not to mention the Y(TE/slot). Imagine Hester slot,Sproles in the backfield,D.A.,& Knox at flanker & split,& either Olsen or Bennett at the Y or in some cases both in an empty backfield w/Cutler pulling the trigger? Sound to me like defensive coordinators will be fueled on caffeine game day due to a lack of sleep all week trying to stop 3rd downs..
I'm in agreement about Sproles
His speed & explosiveness is incredible. In Martz’s offense he would indeed scare the hell out of opposing defenses. Because he’s such a good returner, I see another team putting a much larger value on him than the Bears. I would love to have him, but just don’t see it happening.
by Mike Mueller on Mar 2, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
if not peppers then spread the dough
i think it really depends on the bidding for peppers.. id go 12 million no more.. if it gets too high then i say spread the dough and get three impact players, rumor has it they are targeting manu whas his name a tight end that martz loves first.. should be interesting
I hope they don't get rid of Olsen.
What they should do is draft an undersized tackle late in the draft and just convert him to tightend since all they want him to do is block anyway.
I hope they dont get rid of Olsen either
BUT if they do i would hope they go after a big wr like Boldin in a trade…They absolutely HAVE to get Kampman or Peppers along with a safety…They could possibly use Kellen Davis as that Blocking TE, he definitely has the size and strength. Working with Tice should make him a better blocker….I can see the plus at using a TE as a 6th blocker which puts your RB in the pass routes on a LB which makes the 3rd down back important…Wolfe imo can fit that role also….It’ll be interesting to see what they do…They 25 million to spend and they better spend every penny on impact players at the safety and DE spots
Kobe isnt good, he's just better than your favorite player
I'm not sold on Wolfe either
being able to handle the 3rd down duties.
by Dewey LaMarr Hoyt on Mar 2, 2010 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
Peppers and Sharper/Rolle
go all in with this defensive philosophy, with some all pros. then draft (if not kam chancellor) Gerhart or Riley Cooper. Receiver is still a major need for this team, a couple of games from Aromashadu is promising but should not be an entitlement to a starting position over a veteran #1.
But I’m saying Peppers gonna get paid!! Hope Kampman’s knee is better… but in reality what is new with projected rookie free agents?
Sproles is a good choice.
Not only is he explosive as a complementary back, but is also a stud on ST, which can finally allow us to move Daniel Manning.
If reports are right
and Hester goes back to returning full time with occasional work as the slot the Manning will only be defense, unless Haster gets hurt.
We are who we think we are.
What!?
And get rid of Adrian Peterson? The worst and most useless back-up RB in team history?
Yeah, in all seriousness, I’d love to have a dynamic change-of-pace back. Sproles would be perfect in that role.
by Dewey LaMarr Hoyt on Mar 2, 2010 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
*Hester not Haster*
We are who we think we are.
Idiocy
The first signing will be a strong safety that spent last year on someone elses practice squad that the Bears can mold into the next free safety/nickle/outside corner/returner because Manning will probably high tail it out next year, and we all know that Angelo and Smith think they need at least one DB on the team that will play 3 or 4 positions at once.
For the first FA move the Chicago Bears select...
Brandon Manumaleuna. Martz wants him and he’s an easy signing because he’s not highly coveted by anyone else. Kampman or Peppers will take a while to get done, say next week some time. The more I look into it, I see Rhodes as the next best choice at FS. After that, I do see an Olsen for Boldin trade. I hear Marshall’s name at WR, but I just do not see how that deal gets done. I bet the Bears let Manning go and use the 3rd round compensation on the best available DB (FS IMO) and the other 3rd rounder on an o-lineman (probably RT for the value, but OG is a better bet/need). Then fill in the best RB in the 4th and a few “gems” in the later rounds. Now that’s all realistic and makes good sense, so I’m not going to hold my breath.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
i have no problem
with signing manoomawlayeooonuh first. he’s a big guy that martz wants. no problem there.
Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda
I've looked into my crystal ball and see...
A D lineman that they’ll try to convert to O line.
An O lineman that they’ll try to convert to D line.
A cornerback that they’ll try to turn into a safety.
A tight end that they’ll try to convert to fullback (Nah, they love them some McKie)
A QB they’ll try to make into a WR.
A safety they’ll try to convert to LB (hey, it worked once).

























