Broncos still searching for Cutler's replacement. Trade for Brady Quinn.
I think all of us here at WCG can find truckloads of humor in the Josh McDaniels QB rollercoaster. He caused the ruckus that led to Cutler's trade to the Bears. And now, he's still searching for Cutler's replacement, as apparently Kyle Orton's performance last year wasn't good enough for him.
Per ESPN on March 14 7:16PM ET
Brady Quinn will get a chance to start over in Denver. Whether he'll get to start is up in the air.
The Broncos acquired the former first-round draft pick from the Cleveland Browns for fullback Peyton Hillis, a 2011 sixth-round draft pick and a conditional pick in 2012.
The teams announced the trade Sunday and said the deal is pending physicals.
Ostensibly, Quinn will compete with Kyle Orton for the Broncos' starting job, although coach Josh McDaniels was unavailable Sunday to comment on the trade, according to a team spokesman.
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Poor Kyle Orton .....
…. hes goes from the being the man in two places and then being replaced by the man in two places . Does this guy have some bad luck or what ?! Quinn should excel in McNuggets West coast , short passing , dink and dunk offense .
by MidWayMonster54 on Mar 14, 2010 6:43 PM CDT reply actions
I agree Noodlearm did well last season
Peyton Hillis is a hell of a player
personally i never was a brady quinn fan
by Bear Lovin 21 on Mar 14, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think it means he's being replaced.
I’m pretty confident he would beat Quinn in a QB competition.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Mar 14, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know about ....
…. that my man . Kyle Orton got benched in favor of Sexy Rexy and we all know how well that went . This system seems to favor Quinn’s game , but Orton is a scrapper and will make it a competition .
by MidWayMonster54 on Mar 14, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Midway your my PIC
But when my man rexy was put in place in the 2005 season noodle arm was struggling getting anything going on offense at that time rex provided a spark we lacked.
Orton will beat out brady quinn.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Mar 15, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Poor Kyle is the first thing I thought
Seems like every time he’s supposed to have the starting job wrapped up something happens. Someone recovery from injury, he gets traded, or someone new comes in. That’s the problem with being average, people take every opportunity to get someone better. Half the time it works.
not bad luck
its Orton. To many Bear fans fill we won with Kyle as the starter more times than not. No, we won with Def & a running game as Kyle wouldn’t loss it for us. Remember we had a good D for a while. His arm is so so, his accuracy is ok, his desidion making is better than avg. What does this equal, a good NFL backup. A backup who wont loss it for ya but wont win it for ya either.
ESPN feeds us with that Bull too
To many Bear fans fill we won with Kyle as the starter more times than not.
He is good but he always have a good D to cover his ass.
what was he
21-12 when he left Chicago? take away 10 wins from 05(fearsome defense)….wait a minute, now he’s 11-12
"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."
by BearNecessities on Mar 15, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Take away the losses from that year though.
If you’re gonna wipe out his wins only, that’s just bad, dude.
by Steven Schweickert on Mar 15, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I think then
that you have to take away the whole season, his numbers were abysmal…something like 9 TDs and 11 INTs… you can’t even attempt an argument of “winning” a game for us, or even stretch to manage.
all he did was hand it off.
I’m an Orton fan, but i’m just saying, to all those who came here for months and bashed us with “he’s just a winner guys, face it, you lost a true winner, look at his record”
"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."
by BearNecessities on Mar 15, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not attempting to make an argument about him winning games or not.
All I’m saying is if you plan on taking out his wins, at least be fair and take out his losses. I’m among the first to say that he should only get credit for not screwing up horribly, but it was a formula that worked for that year.
by Steven Schweickert on Mar 15, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
"not screwing horribly"
is a very low standard for a starting QB in the NFL. The Bears won mostly despite Orton.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 15, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
because the defense still
won and lost games that year for us
"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."
by BearNecessities on Mar 15, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL!
Yeah I know. These guys made fun of us for getting Cutler and giving away those picks but little do they know that it’s the years following that trade is where they will face the real repercussions. What good are high draft picks if you don’t hit home runs? They have one more shot to make good on that trade and that’s this year’s 1st rounder because I’m not sure they did that well last year.
They passed on Orakapo and Wells and took Moreno and Ayers. Now they have a full blown QB controversy out there. Say what you want about Cutler’s 2009 year but at least we know who’ll be our QB position for the foreseeable future. That’s something Bronco fans never understood about that trade. It was about finally having stability at the QB position and building around him and that’s what we’re doing.
Well Moreno over wells is understandable. As Moreno was healthier than him and could be as good.
That said I was more of a Beanie Wells guy over Moreno. But them not taking Orakpo was stupid or taking a RB 1st was dummer.
Moreno did well for the donkeys....
But he wasn’t picked with our pick. Ayers was drafted with the traded pick. Moreno doesn’t count.
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1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 15, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Beanie is a way better back than Moreno
Beanie just had the horrible luck of playing in a pass-first and pass almost all the time offense. when he got extended carries he was a beast
by frenchbears113 on Mar 15, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't really think either of them is great.....
It’s a toss up to me as to who is more average. But that wasn’t the point I was making, either way. the Donkeys didn’t draft Moreno with Chicago’s pick, Ayers was……
But, Wells ran for 821 yard, 7 tds, 4 fumbles and 24 broken tackles.
Moreno ran for 947 yards, 7 tds, 1 fumble and 23 broken tackles.
Beanie had better YPC but fumbled more. But in that pass heavy offense, Beanie only caught 12 balls for 143 yards and 0 tds. Knowshon was more involved, catching 28 balls for 213 and 2 tds.
They were both promising. Nothing special, but they both showed promise and will likely both be good backs for a while. In truth, though, Beanie probably would have been better for the Donkeys, and Knowshon would probably have served the AZ offense better.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 15, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
not to mention Orton...King of the checkdown
automatically makes Moreno’s catching and audibled handoff numbers look better. I think Beanie would have had a great year if there was no Hightower.
yeah he fumbles a little bit too much, but that can be worked on usually.
"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."
by BearNecessities on Mar 16, 2010 4:09 AM CDT up reply actions
well...
…we all knew Orton was just a band-aid anyway.
I still can't believe
no one has picked up Marshall. For a 1st rd pick he is a steal even with wanting a new contract.
This is the beginning of the end
for McHoody jr. QB controversies rarely work, and Quinn doesn’t bring a whole lot to the table, except maybe athleticism. Ego got in the way of keeping the Broncos franchise QB, and now he’ll be searching for a true starter for his entire tenure. Good luck with that Donkey fans.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
Yeah
They say Orton is the starter, but as soon as he struggles it will become a controversy.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
McD finally got a Brady for QB
He probably feels right at home now. Next step, adding a little more red to Bronco orange every season.
He drafted Tom Brandstater last year.
Now, he brings in Brady Quinn.
Combine their first names and you have it…………. Tom Brady.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
PS3 ID: broncomaniac6
by Troy Hufford on Mar 16, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely
Keep it on the down low, though, because I go to U of L.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
PS3 ID: broncomaniac6
by Troy Hufford on Mar 17, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
But Quinn will never succeed in this league.
You're being very Un-Dude right now.
by IslandBoodler87 on Mar 15, 2010 7:04 AM CDT reply actions
+1
without the “sorry”… I hate ND. I called this before he left for the league. Thats why he sat in that green room all day during the draft. Too bad Calusen should be good
shame on you.....
hating on the Irish…… :(
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 15, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't like Quinn coming out of college,
but after seeing him a few times when he got the chance to play in Cleveland, I changed my mind. Brady Quinn is going to be a good QB in the NFL.
Mike Holmgren needs a starting QB... and he didn't want Quinn on his roster.
So, I’ll have to go with QB guru on this one.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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On the flip side. McDaniels didn't want Cutler coming off a ProBowl
And he was trying to get Cassel (who didn’t fare too well on his new team last year). So, once again.. I’m gonna have to side with Holmgren… the real QB guru (Montana, Young, Favre, Brunell, Hasselbeck). .
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Oooh...
I could parlay this into some sort of prize for myself. Tell you what, if Quinn becomes a good QB in the NFL- say a top-10 passer- by the end of the 2012 season, you owe me a Bears shirt of my choice.
If Quinn does not, then I owe you nothing, because I ain’t Mike Holmgren. Deal? :)
Orton is a serviceable NFL QB
Nothing more nothing less
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 15, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions
Orton and Thomas Jones
Two former Bears whose teams are always looking to replace them. Too bad.
by Sam Householder on Mar 15, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions
Here is a thought.
Getting rid of Cutler wasn’t the only thing that cost Denver more picks. McDaniels decision making was apparently part of the problem, too.
If I remember correctly, McDaniels could have had Quinn and a better group of picks (being that the Browns drafted higher than Chicago last season, and will likely draft higher than Chicago this year) last year, but decided that Orton was a better option than Quinn. And I recall that prior to that, the Browns were offering up Quinn and Shawn Rogers, which would have worked out better for them than the draft picks have, barring a hit with this years pick. And maybe even with a hit. Last years picks were flops, at least so far.
So it took McDaniels two years, a fullback, a 6th rounder and a potential pick next season to get where he could have been last season. I’d be pissed if I was a donkey fan.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 15, 2010 2:49 PM CDT reply actions
In other words...
McDaniels could have gotten rid of his Pro Bowl QB and replaced him with either Quinn and Rogers, or Quinn and a similar deal to the one he had with Chicago by trading to the browns last year.
Instead, Trading Cutler cost the Donkeys a Pro Bowl QB, Johnny Knox, Peyton Hillis, a 2011 6th rounder and possibly a 2012 pick, while getting only Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn, Robert Ayers, Richard Quinn and this year first rounder. I wonder if those Donkey fans still think they got the better end.
Ayers could end up being great, and this years pick could be a boom. You never know. But right now it looks like they got 3 busts, a backup QB and a yet to be determined 1st rounder for Cutler, Knox, Hillis and 1 or 2 picks.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 15, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Instead, Trading Cutler cost the Donkeys a Pro Bowl QB, Johnny Knox, Peyton Hillis, a 2011 6th rounder and possibly a 2012 pick, while getting only Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn, Robert Ayers, Richard Quinn and this year first rounder.
you have a map? i need directions to follow this logic
you're back
…great
"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."
by BearNecessities on Mar 16, 2010 4:10 AM CDT up reply actions
that's what happens
when WE post Broncos news on a Bears board.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Mar 16, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I think I have some crayons if that helps.....
if McDanials had not pissed of his Pro Bowl QB, He wouldn’t have had to make the trade last year or this year. The trade for Brady Quinn is directly related to the Cutler trade. Orton obviously wasn’t the answer. I hope Kyle succeeds, but he’s not the Bronco’s answer, and obviously McDaniels has figured that out. Now he had to make another trade to bring in another QB that he wouldn’t have needed had he never traded Cutler. So the cutler trade also cost him Hillis, a 6th rounder in 2011 and a conditional 2012 pick. Good luck with the whole Brady Quinn thing. You guys were spoiled having Elway, Plummer and the Cutler. Now you get to know how we felt for a little bit, at least. I feel for ya. I wouldn’t wish the revolving QB door on anyone (outside of the NFC North).
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Orton >>>>>>> Notre Dame pretty-boy
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
I have an idea...
You guys worry about how you are going to protect Cutler and get him to throw less picks (that’s the quarterback stat that you DON’T want to lead the league in)…We’ll worry about what kind of QB situation we have bringing in Quinn to camp and jettisoning the waste of space that is Chris Simms.
Seriously guys…Denver needed a backup. Simms was HORRID last year when he played in the regular season. Quinn was traded for to be a back-up and a project. Orton is still in the driver’s seat this year.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
So how is that trade working out for you?
I notice that while you’re telling us to worry about our own situation, you are over here on the Bears boards. Like it or not, our fates are linked.
So how does it feel to know that McDaniels ended up working for two years to get Quinn when he could have traded for him last year, and gotten better picks, or Shawn Rogers instead of Ayers and Robert Quinn? Cutler will be fine. Before the trade, you guys raved about him. I’d worry about your coach. He took the long and expense road to Brady Quinn, and ran Nolan out of town when the defense was your only bright spot. Cutler, gone. Marshall, going, Nolan, Gone……McDaniels would have run Elway out of town. That’s what you should be worried about, not whether we’re over here snickering……..
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 15, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Like it or not, our fates are linked.
This is B.S. It’s the same B.S. that some of their fans used to say to us that pissed us all off so much. The trade is over, both teams got what they wanted. Screw the so-called “link”.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Mar 15, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought we ironed all this out
quite painfully i might add, during the season
"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."
by BearNecessities on Mar 16, 2010 4:11 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah, me too.
We even had a specific thread setup.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Mar 16, 2010 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't wanna re live this
all through out the offseason as well, cause you know the second that first INT Cutler throws is going to spark this conversation, all over again
"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."
by BearNecessities on Mar 16, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
To be fair though,
They didn’t come over here and throw up a fan post, giving us “friendly advice”. This one’s on us.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Mar 16, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
To be fair, though,
Sackman didn’t offer any friendly advice in this fan post. He simply reported on a fact, and added that those of us here in Chicago might find it humorous. I didn’t see any friendly advice.
As a matter of fact, no "friendly advice was doled out until sadaraine posted above that we should worry about protecting our own QB rather than paying attention to theirs.
Just to be fair…..
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Huh?
Did I say that he did? That was a reference (to BearNecessities) about the abundance of “friendly advice” post that littered our site, post trade. But, you never had to live through those posts on these boards.
And I don’t knock Sack for posting what he did. I actually do fine it somewhat interesting, otherwise I probably wouldn’t have read it. My issue was the “linked fates” argument. It’s ridiculous, since NOTHING they do now will have any effect on what we will do in the future.
Also, expect fans from other teams to start popping up in response, when you post stuff about their team on our board.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Mar 16, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
My mistake....
The wording of your post sounded like you were directing those thoughts at this fan post, not another, but I apologize for the misunderstanding.
But it is ignoring the fact that the initial trade does have an effect on both our futures that is ridiculous. Denver made the trade for Brady because they screwed up the trade last year and went with Kyle. The linked fates has nothing to do with how we interact with each other now or in the future, but with how our past interaction affects our future, such as this current Quinn trade.
And I have no problems with fans of any team posting here. Makes for interesting conversation.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you really believe...
that Kyle Orton was going to Denver and be their franchise QB? Of course not. And of course they were going to bring in other quarterbacks.
The trade did give them two first round picks and a helluva back up quarterback (imo). Maybe it’s Orton’s job to lose, maybe he beats out Quinn this year, but I don’t think anyone truly believed he was going to be their new Elway.
I guess I’m in the minority on this one, but I hope their first round draft picks they got for Cutler do well and I also wish Orton the best. Maybe I’m just spent on why we have to continuously rehash this topic.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Mar 16, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't....
think they thought Orton was the future. I just doubt that he thought it was as bad as he thought. My point is that he could have had Quinn last year, with either better picks, or previous to that, with Shawn Rogers. My point has been that McDaniels screwing up his relationship with Cutler cost the team a lot, and over multiple years…….
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
My point has been that McDaniels screwing up his relationship with Cutler cost the team a lot, and over multiple years…….
Maybe, maybe not. Who really knows what their picks from us will become? To add, Jay hasn’t exactly (to this point) been an outright “win” for us.
Bottom line, the true judgment of who really won the trade won’t be decided for many years to come.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Mar 16, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, which...
Is why we will be debating it for years :)
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
i’m backing away from this one
"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."
by BearNecessities on Mar 16, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Well I guess my answer is so what?
Hell it’s a blog and it gives us something to blog about during the offseason. No crimes are being committed here. It’s interesting fodder. And we are linked in terms of moves that have been made and will be made because of that trade. So I say have at it.
You fall into the "not" catagory.
But the fact remains the same, people are going to be judging the trade for years, and trying to figure out who got the better end for a long time after that. Just cause you don’t like it won’t make it go away, brother. People will be associating Chicago and Denver with the Cutler trade for a decade, especially if that decade turns out to be a brilliant one for Jay. Getting mad at the messanger won’t change it, nor will anything else. Better get used to it, cause it ain’t going away.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not mad...
Personally (and I know it’s just my opinion), but I don’t care what happens to Denver or who “won” the trade. It has zero bearings on what happens to the team I root for. Again, we got what they wanted and so did they. Must we re-hash the trade every time someone makes a roster adjustment?
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Mar 16, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
sadly, it points more and more towards yes
"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."
by BearNecessities on Mar 16, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Not every time a team makes an adjustment, but....
In this case, the adjustment is directly related to the trade, as McDaniels was offered a deal that included Quinn last season when he traded Cutler.
And let’s face it, you might not care about having listened to Donkey braying last offseason about how they got the deal and we got the shaft, but many of us find a bit of solace in the fact that, in the end Chicago didn’t get the short end for a change. Is it necessarily the most adult way of viewing things? Maybe not, but it is certainly the most human…….
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
This from the guy
that pointed out our link to a bunch of other teams…
The Chicago Liamthers!!!
LOL!
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 16, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't get it.
My post was a tongue and cheek look at the amount of free agents we’ve signed from those teams. How does that have anything to do with what I said above?
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Mar 16, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
you of course know
that now Minn/Chicago are forever linked because they took Berrian from us, and we took Taylor from them….HAHA, post it up!
"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."
by BearNecessities on Mar 16, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
almost funny, except....
that’s nit the same sort of future changing situation, not to mention that there was no club interaction at all. I don’t understand why anyone is getting all jacked up because some peple want ot talk about things that others don’t want. Nobody is making anyone read these posts. If you don’t like the subject, there are plenty of other ones to read about.
Nobody is hurting anyone, there is nothing obscene about the subject matter, and there is a story here. So why is it so offensive to some? I think that’s the real question.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
You clearly must have missed the
months long “after trade” timeline, and then the season long debate after every single snap the Bears tooks, we got trolls from Broncos, Chiefs, Chargers, Pats, Eagles fans, all over.
there is nothing obscene to the subject matter….any more, more than that, there is nothing left, to go over
"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."
by BearNecessities on Mar 17, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
And Tice...
This river runs deep!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Mar 16, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with you here. Two separate things......
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1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The one that you should have...
called me out on was here > LINK <
Although I had a response prepared if someone had. ;)
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by David Taylor on Mar 16, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't have called you out, anyways.....
People have a tendency to change their opinions with time and knowledge.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I didn't change my opinion.
I still believe every word that I wrote. Although, it may have spurned a few more of the “dear abby” letters than would have normally come our way. For that, I am sorry.
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by David Taylor on Mar 16, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry Sadarine,
But the “Cutler throws nothing but picks ha ha” arguments will soon be over and you know it. Like I said a few comments up, it’s about stability. Realize who you’re talking to. Us Bears fans know what it means to go through QBs. You Bronco fans don’t. We wish we had a chance to go from Elway to Plummer to Cutler. Hell Bubby Brister was almost as good as any QB we’ve had in the last decade. This is what we were trying to tell you guys last year when all the Cutler haters were in full bloom and the Orton love was in out of control.
Like it or not, Cutler is a beast. He came here under the worst possible circumstances and broke all of our QB records….Yes including the INT record. But I tell you what, I’ll take it. It’s a small price to pay to know who our QB will be for the next 5-10 years. Look you guys have one more 1st rounder to make good on that trade because Robert Ayers isn’t cutting it and Kyle Orton will be driving his butt out of town real soon.
Whoa, wait a minute!!
Cutler doesn’t have the franchise record for most picks. That’s still Luckman I believe with 31 or something like that.
Actually, i don't think Cutler broke any franchise records except attempts and completions......
Kramer still owns TDs and yards and Luckman owns INTs. Cutler is second in INTs and Yards and 3rd in TDs for single season.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
You're right
I should’ve researched more before I made that comment but i guess my point still reigns true that he did some good things considering the circumstances
very true...
In his first year in Chicago, Jay Cutler shattered the Attempts and Completions marks, while posting the third highest touchdown and second highest yardage totals in Bears history, though he also posted the second highest number of INTs.
Sounds a lot better when you say it like that, huh :)
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah. Sounds goo too. lol
I think Jay is going to be just fine over the next few years and I think Martz coming along will be a plus, not a negative for him.
I saw Simms play when Orton got hurt and he lost that Redskins game for you guys.
If Quinn is just going to sit behind Orton he will be fine, I don’t think he can do much else unless it is against the Lions.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
we're still looking for elway's replacement
is a more accurate depiction
by lolcopter on Mar 16, 2010 12:07 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
False
Cutler was that guy, you don’t go to the pro bowl being a chump. But McHoody HAD to go after Cassel (who we all now know has a damn noodle arm).
you ever come to a discussion
and person is just irraitonal and says stupid crap until you give up and walk away? no? well, I’ll still reach and say you understand what i’m getting at… you’ve just walked into that discussion
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by BearNecessities on Mar 16, 2010 5:20 AM CDT up reply actions
This makes me chuckle: "I hate (insert college), therefore
any player from (insert college) will suck".
poor kyle orton is right
not only is he stuck with a team that made the all-time choke artist list from last year’s hilarious conclusion to the season, but now they add a guy who is into men (not that there is anything wrong with it of course) and isn’t even that good anyways. full blown qb controversy? yeah right, kyle is going to start. hope he gets traded outta there for his sake.
by reefermadness3 on Mar 16, 2010 10:56 AM CDT reply actions
+1
because loosing your starting job to Quinn has been the kiss of death so far………Run, Kyle, Run!!!!!!
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
wow, I mean *losing.......cannot type today......grrrr
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 16, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
lol either way
kyle needs to find greener pastures before the fancypants quinn guy starts trying to take him to the ballet
by reefermadness3 on Mar 16, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
On a different take
Giving up a fullback and a 6th rounder is not bad for Quinn. It is a chance but so is a 6th rounder and an expendable FB.

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