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Bears' Madness Begins


Wcg_thumb_notes_medium In honor of "March Madness", over the next couple of weeks, we will be conducting Bears' Madness.  64 Chicago Bears will face-off in Windy City Gridiron's pool to determine our readership's favorite Bears.  There's no set criteria, just pick who you like in each matchup.  Our first contest is from the East Regional (regions have no deeper meaning here, randomness of the regions should produce more "lively" debate):

1 vs. 16.  Walter Payton (1) vs. Rex Grossman (16)

Star-divide

(We'll have a downloadable sheet with all the match-ups some time this week...I hope)

Poll
Bears' Madness, East Regional, Game #1
(1) Walter Payton
843 votes
(16) Rex Grossman
43 votes

886 votes | Poll has closed

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Grossman voters

If someone actually votes for Gross, man they should be banned from the site. Long live Sweetness.

Joe the Boss

by Joe the Boss on Mar 15, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

the site?

how about banned from Football

"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."

by BearNecessities on Mar 15, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Uh oh

Two people have so far. Some people, lol.

by Virto on Mar 15, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I voted for Rex just because it was such a ridiclous poll

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 15, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I voted for Grossman

Because at least he scored in a Super Bowl.

Bwahahahaha! I couldn’t even type that with a straight face!

by Big.Daddy on Mar 15, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just typing that should have caused your fingers to melt....

kidding or not……….wow.

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 15, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was a joke, man.

like my vote was going to make a differance.

by Big.Daddy on Mar 15, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry but Sweetness is before my time

So I’m taking Rexy. Say what you want, but I have a lot of great memories watching him (bad ones too).

Brad Miller is god.

by Poloplaya14 on Mar 16, 2010 3:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

do you even shave yet?

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 16, 2010 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

It might.

While it does not make his posts any better or worse, it might explain some things.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 16, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did he eat paint chips as a child?

Because that would explain some things as well.

If its free, take two.

by Joe the Boss on Mar 16, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But I’m not old enough to have watched Payton in his prime. If this was a “who’s better” poll, I’d obviously pick Payton, but it’s a “who’s your favorite” poll, so if my favorite player happens to be Jason McKie, who the hell are you to tell me I’m wrong?

Brad Miller is god.

by Poloplaya14 on Mar 17, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would not think to deny you

your right to make a fool of yourself.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 17, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Was that really necessary?

this is really the norm for you. everyone who thinks different than you do is a fool or an idiot. but you are the first to try and tell someone else that they only see their side. It is so easy to see through you.

by GentleGoodnight on Mar 17, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

my stalker has returned

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 17, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Typical.

we were discussing you. You say something stupid, I point it out, and you say that bermuda is rainy in june, or something else absolutely irrelevent. There, that’s typically the way this goes, so I’ll just get it all out of the way now. Now we can go on with our day.

by GentleGoodnight on Mar 18, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

you were discussing me

as usual, gusnado, fsw72, notdeadred, etc

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 22, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay...

Well I’m going to respond by saying that voting in a meaningless, anonymous, completely subjective poll can never make you that big of a fool. Berating someone for voting wrongly in a meaningless, anonymous, completely subjective poll can.

Brad Miller is god.

by Poloplaya14 on Mar 17, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those memories being

the six or seven games where he wasn’t terrible? That’s not really a lot of memories…

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Mar 18, 2010 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol indeed

No way Sweetness is losing this one.

by DutchBear on Mar 15, 2010 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

No way he's losing this contest

I can almost guarantee you he’ll win in a landslide in every matchup.

''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou

by propheteer on Mar 15, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK Dane,

Time to revoke his name…

bears rock

rex rocks
I Love Rex
Rex > Walter

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 15, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meh, just look at the clues, and it will explain everything.

Both of the names in the user ID being without caps, the excessive usage of exclamation points, the internet scary laugh, and the vote for Rex.

Add it all up, and it’s a classic case of Yahoo-itis.

by Dane Noble on Mar 15, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget the complete lack of ability to use anything even remotely approaching English (and I’m willing to bet he’s a native speaker).

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"if we need it, we’re not drafting it. not high anyway. look for Angelo to go after a DL/DE – because that’s just the kind of asshat he is.." - junkhorse
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Mar 17, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just wrong

So, so, so wrong. Papa Bear’s ghost will now be haunting you for the remainder of the off-season.

Joe the Boss

by Joe the Boss on Mar 15, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

well hey

somebody’s gotta win the Darwin award.

sad day for Chicago

"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."

by BearNecessities on Mar 15, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

we all know who will win

payton will win by a landslide, followed by Ditka, Butkis (who should be #1) and Singletary.
Butkis is the ultimate Bear, he single handedly personifies what being a Chicago Bear is all about. Tough, Mean, Feared and Respected

by Berserker33 on Mar 15, 2010 10:24 AM CDT reply actions  

You correctly predicted all the #1 seeds.

We’ll have a few posts/polls a day to get down to 32 by Friday.

by Mike Mueller on Mar 15, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Papa Bear should be a DQ

Not fair competition because he founded the Bears.
Cant get more ultimate Bear than that..
Fail by me for mis-spelling Butkus…gotta make more coffee

by Berserker33 on Mar 15, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

No Sayers!?!?

Sorry but Gale Sayers was the greatest running back to ever don a Bears jersey. The real shame is that he got hurt in an era where they didn’t have the technology they have today. I love Sweetness and he was a great human being but….

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Mar 15, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just because he's not a number one seed

doesn’t mean he’s not included… you’ll be able to vote him over someone else, I’m sure! :]

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by HoneyBear on Mar 15, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Payton will win, but Butkus should

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 15, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

You are kidding, right? Butkus was great, but Payton was SWEETNESS! You never hear old Dick’s name in the greatest of all time argument. Walter is never left out of it.

But hey, if Walter hadn’t been a Bear, I’d be right with you.

by Big.Daddy on Mar 15, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say an argument could be made....

Payton would definitely be my choice, but Butkus is arguable the meanest, most vicious and greatest defensive player ever. I wouldn’t be angry if he edged out Payton.

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 15, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kidding? Not at all.

If you never hear Butkus’s name in the greatest Bears player of all time, you are hanging out with ignorant people. Payton was wonderful, and a great case can be made for him as the greatest Bears player ever, but IMO Butkus is the greatest Bears’ player ever and at worst the 2nd greatest NFL player ever.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 15, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm sure plenty of people he hit saw two people.....

And those two people might have been blurry enough to be confused for said players dad…..

But don’t forget he was also a cuddly teddy bear! My younger brother ditched his teddy after that commercial. Nightmares………(shivers)

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 15, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Curious.....

Who would you say was the greatest?

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 15, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it is not Butkus

and I think he might be, the only other choice would be Jim Brown.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 15, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I couldn't argue that either.

I would personally chose Payton, but only by the slimmest Margin over Butkus or Brown. Where Nagurski not of such a different era, I would make my argument for him.

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 15, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nagurski

may be the greatest Bears player but he was just too many years before my time for me to have an informed opinion.

As for Jim Brown or Payton, Brown was head and shoulders, literally and figuratively over Payton.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 15, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a matter of symantics and styles.

Brown was probably the best pure runner ever and running back ever. But Payton did so much well. His blocking was superb, he passed well, he received well, he was as durable as they come, and he never died easy. I just loved his game, so in my book, he’s above everyone…..the best player ever……..But I can’t argue against Brown, either. He was a pure beast. It’s like asking which flawless diamond is better.

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 15, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sayers.

He had a 7 year (roughly) career and still made the HOF. The man was simply amazing. Barry Sanders had NOTHING on Sayers.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Mar 16, 2010 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

longevity

"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."

by BearNecessities on Mar 16, 2010 5:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 16, 2010 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting series!

There could be lots of criteria here as said in the OP.

You could view it as favorite bears in your lifetime so Sweetness would sadly be out for a fair number of us since we never got to see his on field accomplishments.

by Arbusto on Mar 15, 2010 10:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Let me introduce you to YouTube. Or, for that matter, any kind of recorded moving media.

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"if we need it, we’re not drafting it. not high anyway. look for Angelo to go after a DL/DE – because that’s just the kind of asshat he is.." - junkhorse
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Mar 17, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course it goes without saying,

Payton in a landslide. It’s really an honor that Grossman even made the 64 man field.

by Big Ike on Mar 15, 2010 10:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Hmmm

a worse 1vs 16 matchup? Butkus vs David Terrell? Singletary vs Tank Johnson’s felony warrants?

If its free, take two.

by Joe the Boss on Mar 15, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's kinda like a play-in game

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Mar 18, 2010 4:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who the F voted for Rex?

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Mar 15, 2010 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Defenestrate them immediately.

Followed by a brisk flogging.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Mar 15, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I did!

Rex actually scored in a Super Bowl!

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 15, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm kidding of course.....

mocking the dude above. I know it was a joke, but it still deserves ridicule!

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 15, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was just joking, bro.

I get that you were kidding. No harm intended man. It’s all in good fun.

But you had to expect to get some ribbing, right? I mean, if your going to post something like that, you had to have known that you were going to catch some, right?

by Big.Daddy on Mar 15, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I get that....

but I’m not thick skinned. I wasn’t offended by the post. I’m not actually even sure what you were apologizing for……..

I see your new here, man. We’re a pretty hearty bunch, here. Hell, I’ve had pretty heated conversations here, and then BS’d on the very next thread with the same people. As a matter of fact, that is happening right now on this very thread. Just don’t personally attack anyone and I don’t think you really have to worry about offending anyone.

Welcome to boards!

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 15, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

correction....I'm not thin skinned, lol.........

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 15, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you

It seems like a really cool place. Good topics and a lot of people to talk to.

by Big.Daddy on Mar 15, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

But....

The “bro” thing is mine, lol. Remember that………. :)

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 15, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

"but I’m not thick skinned. "

There you go Train, honesty will set you free.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 16, 2010 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

hush, you......

quit giving away my secrets :)

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 16, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is beyond dumb

Why doesn’t Sweetness get a bye? For anyone screaming at the voter for Rex, please take a step back from your angry pills and try to realize it was a joke.

''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou

by propheteer on Mar 15, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Who are the 2s?

I’ll guess Sayers, Dent, Urlacher, Hampton?

by McRipper on Mar 15, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I don’t know why that was a reply to you.

by McRipper on Mar 15, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he's ballsy enough to make that joke on WCG

He should have thick enough skin to take some ribbing from the readers.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 15, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure he or she does

but it was inevitable someone would choose Rex based on the fact it (poll) was a foregone conclusion.

''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou

by propheteer on Mar 15, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget...

any number of bozos that are non-Bears fans could also be casting votes.

by Dane Noble on Mar 15, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

dang Vikings fans!

"If I were a food critic being asked to write about the meal and experience at Waffle House, I would provide a drawing of two happy fat people giving each other a high five."

by BearNecessities on Mar 15, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol......

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The act of doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

by T-Train on Mar 15, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great point

Very well could be some yahoo from another site.

''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou

by propheteer on Mar 15, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The 2's?

If Payton, Butkus, Ditka and Singletary are the 1’s

I’d have Sayers, Nagurski, Luckman and Atkins as the 2’s

Hampton, Blanda, Dent (of course) and Red Grange as the 3’s

Kreutz, B. George, “Bulldog” Turner and McAfee as the 4’s

I’m excluding Halas… IMHO he’s the creator, the architect, the everything. Putting Halas on this list doesn’t feel right to me.

 

by rdent4hof on Mar 15, 2010 12:37 PM CDT reply actions  

If this was an Oilers or Raiders poll, maybe, but not Blanda as a Bears player

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 16, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why? As a Bear he was inconsequential

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 16, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was originally drafted by the Bears

he played QB, K, and LB for 10 seasons with the Bears. More seasons than Oakland or Houston. He was a better player for those two, but he still matters.

LINK to pro-football-reference on him.

by Mike Mueller on Mar 16, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he is one of the 64 top Bears players of all time,

your list needs work

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 16, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

and

link to my post about him. :P

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by HoneyBear on Mar 16, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blanda???

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 16, 2010 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

14 people need to have their brain ripped out.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Mar 15, 2010 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Ironically Grossman has more TDs in the SB in his career compare to Sweetness

But thats about the only thing Grossman has on the Greatest of all time.

"How sad, another victim of the Night Nurses from Jersey."

by ANYTIME09 on Mar 15, 2010 4:23 PM CDT reply actions  

OH SHLT

 i seriously did not mean to slick on grossman. oh crap

just for the records i wanted to vote sweetness

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Mar 15, 2010 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

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