McCaskeys ok $25 mil in upfront cash, Bears looking at Marshall and Taylor?
by Kev H on Mar 3, 2010 12:17 PM CST
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PrintNeil Hayes has an interesting column in the Sun-Times today mentioning all sorts of Bears offensive type needs, with some great points of discussion.
The big one, obviously, is that the McCaskey family approved some cash to lure some Free Agents.
According to a league source, the McCaskey family has given Angelo the OK to spend $25 million in up-front money to make additions to a team that finished 7-9 last season.
But there are some other little nuggets in there, regarding various offensive moves and potential moves.
Of course, the one we all asked for:
One NFC scout said the Bears releasing Orlando Pace on Monday solved the biggest problem.
''They counted on Pace,'' he said. ''They thought there was a tune or two left in an old piano, and there wasn't. He, in my opinion, was a weak link for them, even though at one point he was a great player
The one that we all debated last summer:
Rumors persist that Angelo's comments about wide receiver not being a ''need'' position are a smoke screen. It's all about giving quarterback Jay Cutler what he needs to thrive, which is why one NFL source wagered a steak dinner on Marshall being in a Bears uniform when camp opens.
A veteran running back from a hated rival:
The Bears are interested in Taylor, who has the pass-catching and blocking skills necessary to excel under Martz and played a similar role alongside Adrian Peterson with the Minnesota Vikings.
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Now, interest and intent to act are obviously two different things, but it's good to see that the organization is not necessarily as content with the status quo as they said they were.
The up-front cash is key, because that could be the difference in some of the deals for your big names, your Peppers, Kampmans, Rolles, et cetera.
Plus it's nice to have some fresher meat to discuss. So let's have at it on this glorious Wednesday...two days til Free Agency...it's so exciting!
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I don't know how I feel
This all seems like a “Get better quick” mentality that can bite a team in the ass, a la the Redskins. And who knows how much cash has been freed up in years past? This could be a successful FA period or it could not work out. But how disappointing will it be if after all the talk this week, all the rumors, etc, that in another week Peppers and Kampman are elsewhere, Rolle is off the market and that kind of thing.
by Sam Householder on Mar 3, 2010 12:25 PM CST reply actions
There are hits and there are misses with such a plan
The point is that we need to find players that fit well into our schemes or what we are trying to do. The redskins just sign the shiniest players they can find. I say we sign Kampman and Rolle. If we get Peppers I doubt we can make a play for another big time free agent.
exactly my thoughts...
We have glaring holes and some of the best fa play those positions. The redskins seem to go after the big fa just to do it. We NEED a de and a fs. RB needs to be addressed as well. WR would be nice too but not as badly as the others. If we can get a young fs then we can draft o-line. We are not far from being real good. The problem is that we are also not far from being real bad either.
by Ryan21 on Mar 3, 2010 12:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
After all the comments about the McCaskey's and how they spend their money
I’m not going to overlook this 25 million dollar gift horse in the mouth (if this story is true). When you raise ticket prices at Soldier Field…you damn BETTER get a DE or FS (or an OL player).
I hope the McCaskey’s are learning a thing or two about our neighbors the Blackhawks.
by MetalGearPeaceWalker on Mar 3, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
They don't have time tpo get better "slow"
They are all fired after this season if they lose. Why do you think Ted Phillips is opening up his purse?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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love it !
I would love for them to go all out to make up for lack of draft picks. Still not sure how we would get Marshall though?
by Ryan21 on Mar 3, 2010 12:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'd still marry her
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by Jesse07 on Mar 3, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Are you the dude version of...
Anna Nicole? There’s money to be made..lol and rec’d
Walter Payton lives on!!!
Me too!
She’s someone you could put depends on.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
wait a sec - $25 million...
Wouldn’t it be cheaper to buy out Lovie’s contract and send him on his way?
That picture of Queen McCaskey conjures up an image of Emperor Palpatine in drag.
Seriously, Taylor would be a nice acquisition but building up the O and D lines takes precedence in my book.
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by Maelvampyre on Mar 3, 2010 12:48 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Depending on what they do with Omiyale
I think we’ll see more of the line that showed up late in the season.
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Totally emperor Palpatine
They both have that evil, leering grin.
"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach
Tampering anyone?
NFL.com’s top story: Peppers’ representatives met with Bears at combine
Basis:
> The Bears met with Peppers representative at the Combine
> Just days before the start of FA
> And with rumored interest in the player
> Same thing happened with the Redskins and Haynesworth last year
> But his agent said they were meeting about Malcolm Kelly
> Peppers agent has no current players with the Bears
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Larry Mayer (CB.com)
I read on the Internet today that an NFL scout said he would wager a steak dinner that wide receiver Brandon Marshall would be in a Bears uniform by the start of training camp. Would you take that bet?
Michael G.
Barrington, Illinois
They say there’s no such thing as a free lunch, but there just might be in this case. In other words, I’d take that bet in a second. I would be very surprised if the Bears traded for Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall. I just don’t see that happening. He’s a great talent, but he has a lot of baggage. In addition, the Bears are excited about the potential of their young wide receivers and have far more pressing needs to address in free agency and the draft. By the way, I like my steak cooked medium well.
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I saw on ESPN
the broncos want a 1st round pick for him. Don’t know if you link covers that I’m too lazy to click on it, also i fear a Rick Roll.
Price Check on aisle BOOM.
no rick rolling...
I actually don’t think I’ve ever rick-roll’d on WCG before.
And from Adam_Schefter (twitter):
Somebody explain to me how the Bears trade for WR Brandon Marshall when they don’t have first- or second-round picks. Not happening.
Come and get him: Broncos placed the first-round tender on WR Brandon Marshall.
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You've rick rolled on a dead thread
so that probably doesn’t count as “official”.
Price Check on aisle BOOM.
Lots of moves
coming. Lovie and Angelo aren’t that stupid. They know this it all or nothing time and I’ll think you’ll see as much big name fa signings and trades (marshall or boldin) as they can get done. They have nothing to lose. JA enjoyed his brief stint of not being hated in Chicago directly after the Cutler trade. I think we’ll see something big again this year, hopefully they can get the important pieces. I would hate to see Peppers take all the money and be complacent and lazy as he’s been known to do before getting a huge deal and us still be screwed at fs and oline.
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LOVE IT!!
Absolutely terrific news. I have been waiting for this news since the end of season. I would much rather build through FA. I will completely change my mind about the McCaskey’s if they make a serious attempt to put the pieces in place for a run at the SB. It really sounds like that’s what they are going to do and I am looking forward to some FA signings.
Walter Payton lives on!!!
We are solid at DE
we have 3 good DE forget spending money on Peppers we need to spend it on a S like Rolle or Sharper (who has played in the division).
Why trade away talent like Olsen slot him out he has sure hands and runs good routes I think he can be a big physical receiver like Boldin if you give him a chance.
Maybe bring back Thomas Jones I know his talents can comp with Frote.
I say for all the silly stuff that the team has done they should get someone the team needs not wants (ie Peppers, DE, TE)
Say what you will about Peppers,
but we are not “solid” at DE, nor do we have “3 good” defensive ends.
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please tell me what "3 good DE's" you are talking about
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Running three or four sentences into one isn’t helping us make sense of what you’re saying, let alone spotting these “three good Defensive Ends” that we apparently have…..
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You mean the good DE we are going
To draft in rd 1? Err Rd 2?…scratch that, we have no good DE although I love AB.
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by tfrabotta on Mar 3, 2010 2:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
lol...
so I have to assume then, that since you don’t think AB is a good DE, you just like the way he looks in a well cut suit?
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 3, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
oh yeah...
AB is the man…
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
by tfrabotta on Mar 4, 2010 11:22 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Taking these one at a time
1. three good DEs? ABrown is at best a pretty good left DE, but way out of position on the right side. Ogun? He is fading fast andhardly qualifies as good anymore. Anderson? He is a chronic underachiever, who is living off his strong rookie showing that was made possible largely due to the stellar play of THarris.
2. Olsen would not be anything close to as good as Boldin. As for being a physical receiver, that he is not is a big part of the problem. Boldin is a more physical receiver than Olsen.
3. TJones??? He would not share time with Benson so why assume he will with Forte?
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by lookingdeadred on Mar 4, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
There are 3 players we need to get...
1. Peppers
2. Rolle
3. Taylor or Sproles would be nice
Peppers and Rolle go hand in hand…..Peppers pressuring the Qb and Rolle patrolling the defensive backfield is a nice look for the Bears…MAKE IT HAPPEN!!
Kobe isnt good, he's just better than your favorite player
Its been said numerous times..
It’s seem clear that if we get Peppers, we wont be able to get another big free agent (i.e. Rolle, Taylor, maybe even Sproles). IMO, we should go after Kampman, Rolle, and Taylor. Sproles will do as well if he comes much cheaper than CT. That would be ideal. Then, I think we should KEEP Greg Olsen and trade Desmond Clark instead, maybe throw in Vasher and someone else and try to get maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Does this sound anywhere near do-able? Aside from do-able, does it sound good?
by Lweb23 on Mar 3, 2010 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i like it
Aside from keeping olsen. What’s the point in keeping a pass catching te in an offense that utilizes blocking te’s? If we move olsen now we could get a late 2nd, early 3rd round pick for him but if we wait another year in which he puts up 10 catches cause he never plays he will have no value at all.
by lopey986 on Mar 3, 2010 6:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
dont sell the farm for one player
read an article that he turned down 14 million from the panthers.. also redskins rumored to want him and synder wont lose out on the bidding like he did for cutler.. as i have posted before spread the loot around and go get as many impact free agents as you can free safety, running back, and manu from san diego at TE..
and i dont want pepper$
Everything I’ve read about him really makes me think he’s gonna get a huge contract and then just mail it in, especially if he played under a coach like lovie who never gets on his players about anything and takes a coddling approach to all his players. Peppers needs to play for singletary or belicheat, someone who will motivate him.
by lopey986 on Mar 3, 2010 7:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions
agree
No matter where he signs, Peppers will rake in the cash and then disappear. Total waste of money. I would have absolutely ZERO confidence in the guy that he would be even remotely motivated to perform once he lands his $50+ million contract.
25 Mill up front....Hmmm....
does that mean the Bears are out of the peppers sweepstakes considering from what I have seen peppers wants at least that in a signing bonus or am misunderstanding that part of the equation ?
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signing bonuses
Are spread out over the time of the contract. Peppers will get between 12-16 mil per year when all is said and done. Just say no to pepper$$$
by lopey986 on Mar 3, 2010 8:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lets see if all that money will help out next season...
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