The Bears Den: 3/04/10- Approaching Free Agency Liftoff
by Dane Noble on Mar 4, 2010 7:11 AM CST
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...T-minus 16 hours and counting.
SB*Nation writes up an article about Olsen seeking a trade.
But Pompei says that would be a big mistake on the Bears part.
And this report says the Bears aren't trying to deal Olsen anyhow.
The team's official site gives the lowdown on the tendering situation.
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Don't forget: WCG will be hosting a Free-for-all Free Agency Open Thread tonight, with live updates of all the movers and shakers, and instant analysis. It is guranteed to be one of the biggest nights of the offseason, so make sure you don't miss a thing. We'll get started sometime late this afternoon, and FA will officially start at 11pm CT. We may even have a special guest show up... so make sure you are here early! (Bring your own popcorn.)
Marshall and Orton both get 1st round tenders from Denver.
Rolle is looking to get paid. Mad money, yo.
One of my favorite team reports... USA Today is always thorough.
Neil Hayes: Bears are desperate.
Nice article about a class some NFL players took.
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Well of course I'm going to show up.
But, I mean, I’m not that big a special guest.
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
Pompeii
is a puppet for the organization. His article was just trying to get leverage back for the Bears in the Olsen discussion so they don’t loook desperate to deal him.
He is a now expendable piece with significant value to a team with tons of other holes. If Angelo doesn’t deal him, or at least try, he’s not doing a good job of putting the best team on the field.
DEJESUS!!!
FS
Rolle’s not worth 8 Mil a year. Atogwe would be a better and possibly cheaper option if the rumor of a lowball tender from the Rams is true. Atogwe fanpost. Management is desperate though so can’t say we won’t overpay for Rolle.
If the price for Rolle is 8 million, then pass.
Rolle is an upgrade no doubt, but 8 million a year? No f-ing way. He’s not that good. Plus he plays next to a pretty good safety in AZ. He won’t have that luxury with the Bears.
WHAT!!!
Didn’t you hear Danieal Manning is being moved to SS
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 4, 2010 9:07 AM CST up reply actions
Ha nice.
He did have a great sack/safety on Rodgers in the 1st game last year. I would think an SS would blitz more than a traditional FS do. He’s also not that bad a run defender. His mental lapses usually occur in passing situations and letting guys get behind him. Maybe SS is the place for him despite his lack of size.
How many safeties will the Bears keep?
SS: Manning, Afalava, Payne (is one of these 3 the odd man out?)
FS: Free Agent or Draft Pick, Steltz, Bullocks (Steltz or Bullocks out?)
In 2009 we kept 5 safeties LINK DM, Payne, Steltz, Bullocks, Afalava.
In 2008 we kept 5 safeties LINK: Brown, DM, Stltz, Payne, McGowan.
In 2007 we kept 5 safeties LINKBrown, DM, Payne, McGowan, Archuleta.
If it’s 5 safeties again and everyone who is tendered comes back (Bullocks & DM), then my guess is that between Payne and Steltz, you’ll have a battle for the last roster spot. That is assuming the Bears don’t sign a FA safety AND draft one as well.
I keep Payne.
Both out of my first name allegiance, and that I didn’t consider Steltz to have quite the same ability.
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
I agree with you Kev,
but Bears management & coaches have a different way of “evaluating” talent, if you could call it that.
To add to this:
The Bears kept 5, 5, & 6 cornerbacks 07, 08, & 09 respectively. Will they keep 11 DB’s again, or back to 10 like they normally do?
CB’s: Tillman, Bowman, Moore, Graham? (probably), Vasher?, Turrene, draft pick?, Free Agent?
they might even dump
Graham, he’s seen less and less time
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Mar 4, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
They need to dump Vasher
Graham has been better, but somehow got himself in Lovie’s doghouse.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato.'' - Sweet Lou
I think Bullocks is cut
he was just tendered with hopes someone will want him…
And I think Steltz is on the bubble.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 4, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
+1
Absolutley agree… and on top of that, you can throw in Darnell Docket, Calais Campbell, and Bertrand Berry. Between the three of them, they registered 20 sacks in the regular season, and close to a million QB pressures (give or take).
That is defintely a luxury for DBs…
not a whole lot
has been said about Kerry Rhodes, he’d be a definite “someone to look at” if he gets cut by NYJ… actually just about everyone is a possibility compared to our secondary
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
I like Orton
But there is no way that anyone is going to give up a 1st rounder for him. Absolutely no way.
I'm still happy for him
I hope he gets a contract extension. He isn’t top 10 QB stuff but he’s a good solid starter and his record speaks for itself. I am one of the Bears fans who falls onto the side of “I hope for good things for Orton.” He’s a good guy.
by Sam Householder on Mar 4, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
Our entire secondary is crap
We got maybe two C+ players on the whole squad. We need big physical, “we’re gonna hurt ya” types in the defensive backfield.
Tillman and Nate’s got skillz, no doubt, but they’re only dominating 2-3 games a season. With little or no pressure from the line and no help behind, we look inept, because we are.
Bring me a HITTER – I’ve said it here at least 5 times. I want to strike FEAR and remorse in the heart of any WR or TE who thinks about roaming in my space.
The draft is gonna be used to rebuild the OL. The only way we improve is Free agency. There are too few great player available, and the McCheapskys won’t foot the bill.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Mar 4, 2010 10:09 AM CST reply actions
Bowman is chop liver?
He led the team with 5 Ints, and improved dramatically even though his leash seemed to be a bit short in coverage. Lovie probably told him your mantra should be “don’t get beat deap!”
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato.'' - Sweet Lou
Another Olsen + Martz Comment
I know people are probably sick of these but one more thing to think about: Martz thrives on match ups. He loves getting his receivers into match ups that favor their skills, hence why he wants to put Hester in the slot. The people who think Olsen will be wasted, you really think Martz couldn’t figure out out to put Olsen into match ups that favor him every time. Split him out wide with Hester, Aromoshodu and Knox and you’re telling me that putting a LB or CB on Olsen won’t help get him open? I think it’s ludacris to think that Martz couldn’t make Olsen better or that he’s close-minded enough to throw away someone’s of Olsen’s ability.
by Sam Householder on Mar 4, 2010 10:35 AM CST reply actions
Definitely
I think that Martz with his “offensive genius” label could figure out a way to use Olsen effectively.
by Sam Householder on Mar 4, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
He could not
find a way to use Vernon Davis, arguably superior to Olsen in every phase of the game, in the passing game, so I’m not sure why he’d be able to utilize Olsen. Particularly since Davis is a great blocker, so he could play on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down.
DEJESUS!!!
Actually at that time Vernon Davis was a no show
The light bulb moment didnt happen for him until Singletary threw him out the game..Veron Davis now was nowhere near the Vernon Davis then, you cant compare the 2..The Bears will keep Olsen, Martz will use him to the max and he will have a HUGE year
Kobe isnt good, he's just better than your favorite player
Shame Ron Turner couldn’t implement any of this last season. Might have saved his hob.
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"if we need it, we’re not drafting it. not high anyway. look for Angelo to go after a DL/DE – because that’s just the kind of asshat he is.." - junkhorse
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
Er, job.
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"if we need it, we’re not drafting it. not high anyway. look for Angelo to go after a DL/DE – because that’s just the kind of asshat he is.." - junkhorse
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
One great idea
among several possibilities. He’s just too talented to not have a significant role in any offense.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Not at all...
It did put him in some interesting match-ups, but was still double-teamed once it was sniffed out by the defense.
It also gave him extra reps at blocking, and as Lester will tell you, he actually looked good a lot of the time in blocking situations.
People can be too quick to judge sometimes… just because a certain player has a certain limitation, does not automatically mean that he won’t develop and grow… especially with young players.
FB?
Really? With that haircut? And just who exactly is this “Lester” guy? I suppose this is one of those “unlinkable quotes” I’ve heard about!
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
LOL
Lester did some film breakdown after week 12 or 13 I believe, and we were talking about how much Olsen had improved in his blocking game, especially when he lined up in the backfield.
Sometimes though, it’s just easier to stigmatize someone and pretend like nothing will ever change.
I say put Olsen at Free Safety
Problems solved.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 4, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
They
let you have pencils?!
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
by Pete Dixon on Mar 4, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
Adoptive Parent of Earl Bennett since 2010
"You can do it Buddy, Get off that Bench!"
by Eaten by Bears on Mar 4, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
No brainer.
In my opinion. Of course I have no brain. I donated it to science. But hey, no headaches.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
I think it’s ludacris to think that…
According to Google Image Search this is Ludacris:
I believe the word you’re looking for is ludicrous. Sorry, that gets my midget goat.
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"if we need it, we’re not drafting it. not high anyway. look for Angelo to go after a DL/DE – because that’s just the kind of asshat he is.." - junkhorse
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
I like the wavy
non-connected sideburn. I’m going to start rocking that.
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
Never
grow a mustache and a goatee that don’t connect to form the full vandyke. Looks like the escaping connective hair is worming towards his ear.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Love to join you guys on the FA thread
But I will be golfing in Naples, Florida today through sunday. I know, it sucks…
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
by tfrabotta on Mar 4, 2010 11:17 AM CST via mobile reply actions
70 degrees saturday!!
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
by tfrabotta on Mar 4, 2010 9:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm leaving work for the day
Message to Lovie and the Bears:
When I come into work tomorrow, I expect to see progress, and by progress, I mean signings….valuable signings, not Omiyale signings!
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Mar 4, 2010 11:32 AM CST reply actions
At least it looks like Olsen will stay.
Like I said before, if Martz is even considering ditching Olsen because he doesn’t like TE’s then he is a moron.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
Is anybody as stupid pumped up as I am.
Call me crazy
"How sad, another victim of the Night Nurses from Jersey."
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