The Bears Den: April Fools Edition (Or is it?)
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...where Bears Madness is hitting its boiling point!
Preseason opponents announced; dates to be released soon.
Peppers thinks Bears defense can return to form from 2005-06.
Certainly, everyone is excited to have Urlacher back. Can he regain his form of old?
USA Today's latest edition of their team report.
Would Jerry Angelo really move up in the draft to grab a starting safety?
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Can Hester really be an impact player in 2010?
A. Brown says goodbye. Brad Biggs says it was either Tommie or Alex that had to go. (2 links)
The Moustached One gets extended at Pitt. twss
10 reasons why we shouldn't hate Duke? No, Duke still sucks.
What's the best April Fools joke you've ever seen?
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If you are of the mind of releasing Brown, you might as well get rid of Harris too, instead of one or the other. Brown outperforms Harris with regularity, and thats all that matters.
and before everybody jumps on the “Harris and Potential” potential is wonderful, but it hasn’t and doesn’t necessarily mean it would translate onto the field, see: never healthy, takes a LOT of plays off, seen escorted out of Soldier Field.
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
If we had just
brought in one of the top 2 or 3 3 technique DTs in the game, and Harris would be a second stringer, then I’d agree with you. But that’s not what happened. Harris is still a starter, and Alex Brown is playing second string behind Peppers.
Peppers is a RE, and so is Alex Brown. Brown can’t play left end well, and while Peppers can, you don’t move a premiere player at a premiere position so you can get your very ordinary albeit popular player in the game.
Harris, however flawed, is the best 3 technique DT we have right now. Until that changes, I keep him and say goodbye to Alex Brown, and hold out hope that money is used to upgrade the team and not save the owners cash.
DEJESUS!!!
how do people know this?
Brown can’t play left end well
I actually think he’d make a fine left end.
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Because!We need a pass rusher.
Yet Brown is fourth in Bears history for sacks…..
by I love football! on Apr 1, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that'd be his best position
Because of how well he plays the run…
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 1, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't understand the whole age thing either.
Izzy will be 30 and unaccomplished and JP will be 30 soooooooo ?? Although don’t get me wrong I like Izzy a ton but Brown is just a better all around candidate.
by I love football! on Apr 1, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
At 6'3" 262, he's not big enough for LDE.
Izzy is 6’ 7" 290 lbs. This move is more about Izzy being the LDE, not Anderson. MA will still be the 3rd end and play both sides on passing downs, and take a series here and there. Pepper’s might even take a few series at LDE too. But I think Izzy will be the main LDE on 1st & 2nd down and might move inside on passing downs to rush from the DT position, which he did very well at last year (rated 6th best rush DT by ProFootballFocus) LINK
by Mike Mueller on Apr 1, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
He's big enough to handle the premier tackles...
on the right side, but not the inferior ones on the left? Idontgetit!
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by David Taylor on Apr 1, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
right tackles tend to be the better run blockers than pass blockers
inferior vs the pass rush, but not necessarily inferior as run blockers. Plus with the offensive right side primarily the strong side a bigger LDE is normally needed to take on the more stout run blockers + a TE. Wale was god-awful, terrible vs the run (68th best 4-3 DE in the NFL…that’s bad). LINK Izzy will be a huge improvement at LDE over Wale. Brown would also have been an improvement over Wale. I think Izzy will be even better…he’s a lot bigger and has proven to be a quality pass rusher as well. oh and he’s cheaper. which is no factor for me, but definitely for the Bears.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 1, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Izzy will do fine.
That said, I don’t buy into the size argument and I still think Brown would make a better left end then you are giving him credit for.
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by David Taylor on Apr 1, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Brown is bigger than Adawale
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 1, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Why support mediocrity?
Because that’s exactly what Brown represents. I love him to death, and he’s the ultimate professional/great character guy, but he’s at best average. Does anyone realize how many DEs are good against the run? It’s not a special thing. Pass rush is what this defense desperately needs.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
I thought we got that with Peppers.
Brown may be mediocre, but he’s mediocre at a lot of things. There is good value in that.
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by David Taylor on Apr 1, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
So much value we can't get a draft pick for him?
Teams pay for DEs that can consistently get to the QB. The Bears need that from both sides of the D-line, not just from Pepp.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
maybe you're right.
However, I think the $5m price tag is what’s keeping people away. I don’t think he’ll last long on the open market. But, I could be wrong.
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by David Taylor on Apr 1, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Having a D with 11 above average players
is a luxury. Most teams hope for average players with a few special talents mixed in.
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 2, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
yup.
I’m with you.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
Well, Peppers happens to be an either side end, if we’re getting technical. so it wouldn’t matter even IF Brown couldn’t play left end well, which I don’t know has any merit behind it.
Harris being our best DT…great, Josh Bullocks is our best FS… so I don’t understand the logic here.
Harris is still a starter yes, but Brown would be starting on the other end if it wasn’t for this ridiculous Anderson crush the Bears have.
Why wouldn’t you try and renegotiate for a wiley/weathered veteran, who proves himself a steady and reliable end, every year.
heck, most people want a proven veteran back up qb, why can’t the same be said for a DE? Anderson does not count
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by BearNecessities on Apr 1, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
ok
put it this way. Alex Brown is an (apparently) beloved, though average to below average right end. Right end is probably the number 1 most prized position on defense.
A combo of Izzy/Anderson at LE is probably somewhere in the average to below average range at LE, which is probably behind RE, corner, MLB and maybe FS on the importance list, position-wise.
If I have a freakishly good talent (Peppers), I’d rather put him at a premier position. If I have to have a middling talent at DE, I’d rather put him at a less-critical position (LE).
Alex Brown is not built to play left end. Mule train explained why above. Alex Brown makes 5 mil a year, too much for a backup RE.
Alex Brown wanted a new contract and pay raise. Do you think he would accept a paycut?
Also, Harris is in a different class than Bullocks. Bullocks has been, and will always be terrible. Harris at one time was a top 5 DT. He fell off due to major injury and effort. He’s now healthy, so I’d be willing to take a chance that someone can motivate him to capture his old effort/production. before I’d heop that Bullocks can suddenly become good.
Most of Harris’ money is sunk cost. He’s at a relatively reasonable salary the next few years. It would be silly to cut him now.
DEJESUS!!!
Make room for younger guys.
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Bye Alex! :(
Schefter just confirmed on Twitter.
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our team just got 6 sacks worse
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
by BearNecessities on Apr 1, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
So you think
Peppers will have zero sacks? I think he’ll have 10, and I think the Izzy/Anderson combo will probably rival Wale’s sack production, while being an improvement on his run-stop ability.
I don’t see any argument for how they could be 6 sacks worse.
DEJESUS!!!
So
Anderson and Idonije will have zero sacks between them?
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
If Brown played DT, then he'd still be here and Tommie gone.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
I would of just dumped harris
Ale brown dosent get the credit he dose..He blocks passes stops the run ave about 6 sacks a year and also blocks fieldgoals…I would cut harris and his 12 to 13 million a year.
Harris' contract
2010: $1.235 million (+ $2.5m roster bonus due in June and $1.625m prorated signing bonus)
2011: $2.3125 million (+ $1.625m prorated signing bonus)
2012: $2.5 million (+ $1.625m prorated signing bonus)
Not sure where you get $12-$13m a year from.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
moving forward that Harris deal
is a good deal from the Bears perspective. He had so much up front money that his yearly cost isn’t bad.
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 1, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
For that money, Tommie Harris is a good deal.
For better or worse, he’s the best 3-technique on the Bears’ roster. Unless there’s a 3-4 team looking for Tommie to be a DE, then he’ll be a Bear for awhile.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 1, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
People still rank Tommie,
as one of the top DT’s in the game today. LINK 1, LINK 2, LINK 3
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by David Taylor on Apr 1, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Tommie Harris's contract has a ton of incetives.
We should keep Tommie just because ppl will start to double team JP.Even at 85 % Tommie with a one on one could ruin O-Lineman.
by I love football! on Apr 1, 2010 8:43 AM CDT reply actions
His contract only contains $2m in incentives...
over the duration of four years. (see the link above)
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
Ohh sorry I thought my ears heard.
Waddle the other day talking about how Harris doesn’t get paid as much as ppl think.
by I love football! on Apr 1, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions
He doesn't.
See the numbers that I posted above.
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We are all ignoring you...
Can’t hear you!!! Lalalalalalalalalalalalalala……..
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Trading up for a FS better be an option
It’s a deep FS draft, but depending on how quickly they start falling JA better have a plan B
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 1, 2010 8:58 AM CDT reply actions
Are we still trying to pursue Atowge or no?
by I love football! on Apr 1, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think so
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 1, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Atogwe probably only becomes a possibility if June 1st comes and goes and
he doesn’t have a deal done by then w the Rams. Then he becomes UFA. I think all interested teams will wait it out (or maybe swing a draft day trade).
Brown + Harris
could nab us a pretty decent FS, or Draft pick
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
by BearNecessities on Apr 1, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Alex Brown v. Tommie Harris since 2006
Granted I know the DT and DE position differ in that DEs get more sacks generally, however, I am a stat guy and if you look at the numbers, Brown seems to come out a little better:
Brown – 23.5 sacks, 14 Pass Deflections, 6 Forced Fumbles, 64 games played
Harris – 20.5 sacks, 2 Pass Deflections, 2 Forced Fumbles, 57 games played
"Dick Butkus once tackled the Packers."
"Dick Butkus played all 11 defensive positions...at the same time."
"Dick Butkus once sacked a quarterback simply by looking at him."
What about total snaps?
Those numbers are bit deceiving because (I’m almost positive) of the desparity in playing time. I realize Tommie has been perpetually injured since ’06, but not really fair to compare a DT to a DE.
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Fair point
I am not sure about total snaps. And Tommie draws more double teams as the NT which means his hands aren’t as free for PDef and it frees up Brown to get the numbers he has but I still think there is something for these numbers, Brown has produced more TOs which is a big thing this defense is predicated on and that is just going off FFs and not considering that a deflected pass or two could have been picked off.
"Dick Butkus once tackled the Packers."
"Dick Butkus played all 11 defensive positions...at the same time."
"Dick Butkus once sacked a quarterback simply by looking at him."
by Sam Householder on Apr 1, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Snaps from '07 on
Not a huge disparity between the two, but didn’t realize Brown didn’t play much in ‘07 and had a terrible year according to PFF. I don’t remember him being hurt.
TH- 1759
AB- 1950
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Good stuff
But I just wonder if in those 200 snaps Harris could have gotten 3 sacks, even just six or seven more PDef and/or 3 more FF.
"Dick Butkus once tackled the Packers."
"Dick Butkus played all 11 defensive positions...at the same time."
"Dick Butkus once sacked a quarterback simply by looking at him."
by Sam Householder on Apr 1, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
If we just look at last year:
Izzy: 322 snaps; 2 sacks, 4 QB hits, & 13 QB pressures as a DT (19 positive plays).
Tommie: 628 snaps; 3 sacks, 5 QB hits, & 10 QB pressures as a DT (18 positive plays).
Izzy’s production is roughly the same in 1/2 the snaps.
A.Brown: 787 snaps; 7 sacks, 12 QB hits, 20 QB pressures as a DE (total of 39 positive plays vs QB.).
M.A.: 522 snaps; 3 sacks, 5 QB hits, 17 QB pressures as a DE (25 pos plays).
Wale: 734 snaps; 6 sacks, 8 QB hits, 25 QB pressures as a DE (39 pos plays).
If we multiply MA’s numbers by 1.4 to get to 734 snaps to very crudely mimic the snaps Wale got, 4 sacks, 7 QB hits, 24 QB pressures (35 pos plays). Then you could argue that these 3 were all pretty comparable getting to the QB.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 1, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
If you try and take it step further:
Divide positive plays vs QB / number of snaps * 100 to get a % of times getting to the QB and sacking him, pressuring him, or hitting him.
Izzy: 5.9%
Tommie: 2.9%
Brown: 5.0%
MA: 4.8%
Wale: 5.3%
I really think Izzy and MA will produce better than Alex Brown would have. Tommie kinda sucks, doesn’t he?
by Mike Mueller on Apr 1, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I forgot about Peppers.
10 sacks, 10 QB hits, and 33 QB pressures (53 total QB plays) in 806 snaps.
6.6% of snaps he makes a play on the QB.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 1, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Isn’t it harder for DTs to get to the QB? Unless they’re left one-on-one with an interior lineman, that is. However, I don’t have stats on how many times Tommie Harris was double-teamed and I’m not about to look for them :-D
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Much harder.
It’s also skewed because Izzy primarily played on passing downs replacing either Harrison or Adams in the lineup.
It’s not an exact science. I just think Izzy at LDE is a huge upgrade over Wale, and also a better choice than Brown. I’m in the minority there.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 1, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm in the minority as well!
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You undervalue Brown.
The talent on our defense has rapidly deteriorated over the years. While Julius Peppers is a nice addition one of our biggest concerns is the #2 DT. With Alex Brown on the roster the DE opposite Peppers is not a position of concern, but with Izzy and Anderson the results are unknown. Alex Brown has always been a good player IMO with the ability to make clutch plays. A FG block a couple of seasons ago comes to mind.
I like a DL with Brown and Anderson at DE and Izzy as the #2 DT much more then I like a line with Anderson and IZZY at DE and Anthony Adams starting at DT.
All that said it really comes down to whether or not somebody can fill the vacuum created if Brown leaves. Anderson, Izzy, Melton, and Gilbert, considering what the Bears have invested in those 4, 1 of them should needs to be a legit starter or else the bears will have failed to develop the one position they have invested the most in. In addition I have long said that the Bears have invested in the DLine at the expense of other positions. With the signing of JPepp and the depth already at DLine cutting Brown makes sense.
The big thing here is reallocating the money (and hopefully a pick) to address FS, OL, WR, or DT#2.
Agreed (wth?)
The only difference is I think that the money they save on Brown will just help justify Peppers contract, and won’t be reallocated for another new player.
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by David Taylor on Apr 1, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
IMO not resigning Wale was the cost cutting maneuver to make way for Peppers. Cutting Brown detracts from what I knew at the time we signed Peppers was a formidable Dline.
However, it is tough to ignore Brown’s contract. Madden Warning: One of my favorite things about the game is the off season of franchise mode which gives a pretty good representation of depth chart talent, contract/$, potential etc. and the ability to make relevant decisions. Since adding Peppers I inevitably trade Alex Brown myself… Sure it is easier to shore up the Dline when u have Oaklands 1st and 2nd rounders, but the point is that Browns rank is 83 overall and he isn’t improving, but he gets paid about $5-6 million., and more next year. While he is getting paid like an elite player, which he isn’t, it isn’t impossible to replace that talent level and the drop-off in talent isn’t that great considering the money saved.
What can Brown do for you?
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
Yes, it is.
Tommie’s sack rate (4.5 per year) is really not that bad for a DT. Although, I don’t think he was double-teamed much last year, and he ended the season with 2.5.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 1, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Just to complete the project here:
Marcus Harrison: 596 snaps; 1 sack, 3 hits, 5 pressures for 9 total plays & a 1.5% QB annoyance rate.
A. Adams: 586 snaps; 2 sacks, 3 hits, 8 pressures for 13 QB plays & a 2.2% QB annoyance rate.
Kevin Williams (Minn DT); 871 snaps; 5 sacks, 11 hits, 20 pressures for 36 QB plays and a rate of 4.1%. This is the kind of production Harris should be getting.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 1, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
me too, and I'm not sure why.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 1, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't forget
“Stops”- they constitute a forced negative play by the player in question.
Izzy- 11 in 322 snaps= 3% of the time.
Brown- 30 in 787 snaps= 4% of the time.
MA- 19 in 522 snaps= 4% of the time.
Pretty much the same numbers across the board, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Izzy’s numbers increase when he’s shifted to the end position. Not much of a fall off in production if any at all.
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That THarris has almost only 3 fewer sacks as ABrown since 2006
is a serious indictment of ABrown’s ineffectiveness
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by lookingdeadred on Apr 1, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Rob Sims
So apparently the Lions are interested in Sims too. Link 1 Link 2
If the Bears are interested they better make a move quickly.
by boondock_saint812 on Apr 1, 2010 10:06 AM CDT reply actions
Rob Sims
So apparently the Lions are interested in Sims too. Link 1 Link 2
If the Bears are interested they better make a move quickly.
by boondock_saint812 on Apr 1, 2010 10:06 AM CDT reply actions
Lovie Smith is the man responsible
for all of the previous draft picks that didn’t work out at safety. The safety position is his personal pet project. So, why in the world would Angelo let Smith decide, yet again, which safety to draft? He’s gotten it wrong a gazillion times over already! And the only one he got right (Chris Harris), he traded away, because he wanted Adam Archuletta!
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Best April Fool's I ever saw
Does anyone else remember in the late 70’s, Johnny Morris, former Bear receiver and broadcaster with the Chicago CBS affillate on the 10pm news announced that the Bears had just traded Walter Payton to the Pittsburgh Steelers for Terry Bradshaw.
Everybody went freaking nuts until later when Johnny said “April Fools”!
Check this one out...
Read the info about it. GG told me about this.. one of the most famous April Fool’s Day jokes done by a legitimate news source. :]
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by Ashley Czuba on Apr 1, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny!
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"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Bravo Pompei.........
Finally someone that is going to own up to being wrong about Hester. Bravo
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it'd be better if it was 5 or more return TDs
and yes, I know that’s racist
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by BearNecessities on Apr 1, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
no, BUTT,
it bother me that wr and return duties are mutually exclusive. While I in no way want him to have diminished receiving duties, I expect a NFL pro of his caliber and pay grade to be able to master those two things at once. I am huge Hester fan and it is frustrating how the Bears do not get him the ball in more creative ways. Mike freakin Martz plans on addressing that very issue = good things.
I'd just like to know...
how the hell Angelo plans to trade up to the 2nd round…We have very few picks, and not much tradeability either..unless they got rid of someone big
this is JA we're talking about,
he’ll trade next year’s #1 for a 2 this year! Who need’s 1st round draft choices?
With a “win now” mentality and the depth of this year’s draft class, he may well do… otherwise he might not be here next year.
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
A first next year
might not get us a player any better than a second this year. More underclassmen declared this year because of uncertanties about the lockout, so it might not be a terrible idea.
DEJESUS!!!
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