The Bears Den: April 12, 2010

by Dane Noble on Apr 12, 2010 7:13 AM CDT in The Bears Den

...where no imposter sites could play 72 rounds with WCG.

Outstanding article from the team's official page about Walter Payton and the 1975 Draft.

Some lesser known, if known at all, draft picks Chicago has made through the years.

Think Peppers will cause a wave of success this season? Dan Pompei says to think again.

And while he's at it, Pompei takes time to answer question from his mailbag.

Brad Biggs says that four TEs is too many... who has to go?

Follow WCG on Twitter!

Chicago won Friday night with a late FG from Gould.

Seems team officials are still looking around at different WRs to work out.

Minny gets hammered in this opinion piece regarding their stadium situation.

The most bad*ss (and possibly insane) athletes of all time. (Adult language)

R.I.P. Texas Stadium.

Only 5 games into the season, Milton Bradley is being Milton Bradley.

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There's another Gould kicking in Chicago!

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 12, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions

That's such a double take moment...

I had to read it twice before it sunk in!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Apr 12, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions

Freddie Barnes is sick

Not fast, no, but he plays fast and he has moves. It doesn’t surprise me that a team with Martz on board is looking at him. He makes super athletic catches and well catches just about everything (As seen by his NCAA single-season reception record). BG even made him his own web page on the BG Falcons website: www.freddiebarnes.com There is a highlight video so check it out if you’re curious.

"Dick Butkus once tackled the Packers."
"Dick Butkus played all 11 defensive positions...at the same time."
"Dick Butkus once sacked a quarterback simply by looking at him."

by Sam Householder on Apr 12, 2010 11:18 AM CDT reply actions

and if he was 3rd in the Biletnikoff votes

the kid is in some lofty company

Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear

by BearNecessities on Apr 12, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions

We should have used our 5th rounder on Santonio Holmes!!!

Wtf! The dude would fit perfect with Martz’s system.

by Ryan21 on Apr 12, 2010 12:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Except he's a one year rental, that is out for the first four games of the season...

That has an extensive criminal history, and only had one year he lived up to expectations.

But yeah, other than that he would have fit perfectly on this team.

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 12, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions

true...

Chances are that a rookie taken with that pick wouldn’t be to effective during those first for games anyway. Plus, he either paid someone off or the person that admitted throwing the glass really did it. Either way he won’t be found guilty of any charges.

by Ryan21 on Apr 12, 2010 1:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Do you really think that matters?

Cedric Benson was aquitted of his BUI, and he is no longer with the team. If you go across the board, the Bears aren’t exactly loving caretakers of league misfits. Multiple drug policy violations and a history of violence against women doesn’t fit our MO.

As far as the value of fifth round picks goes? Johnny Knox begs to differ, plus the rookie would at least be getting his chemistry together with the team whereas Holmes would not. He’s a distraction, and not worth the one year rental for any time unless they are destitute at the WR position and could use the name IE a team like the Bills.

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by Jacob Hayes on Apr 12, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions

I dont think he would be a distraction...

He is better than any wideout we have on the roster. Johnny-No-Knox is a solid player with good upside but Holmes is a far n away better player and a SB MVP. We got lucky with Knox in the 5th round. I doubt it will happen for a second year in a row. I want to win now and if that that means gettin a sketchy player, I’m all 4 it. Still woulda liked to keep Tank but Benson needed a wake up call. Holmes peforms on the field. That’s all that counts. A 5th round pick is nothing in value compared to a player lik him. Moss worked out good and that was for a fourth. Just think for giving so little it wouldve been worth a shot.

by Ryan21 on Apr 12, 2010 3:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

You seem willing to sell your soul for a ring

I’m not sure it’s worth it. Plus it seems like people are overlooking the fact that this guy got in trouble, not always in Pittsburgh but down in Florida. What’s going to happen when he’s in a big city like NY with clubs open all the time? How would he have transferred to a city like Chicago, also with a hopping night scene? I wouldn’t want to take my chances with a guy w/ a knack for the night life in a large market like NY or Chicago.

"Dick Butkus once tackled the Packers."
"Dick Butkus played all 11 defensive positions...at the same time."
"Dick Butkus once sacked a quarterback simply by looking at him."

by Sam Householder on Apr 12, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions

its not my soul being sold 4 a ring...

Its the bears $ not mine. I am just a fan who wants them to do whatever it takes to win. I gurantee that there a bad guys on the bears right now. They just haven’t been caught. One of of our greatest sports players ever (M J) cheated on his wife constantly and was a compulsive gambler but no one cares cause of the rings. I was just saying that a 5th rd pick is worth whatever baggage he has. Wouldve been nice to add a really good WR to the mix. We can always use more weapons on offense.

by Ryan21 on Apr 12, 2010 5:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

That's true

MJ made Tiger Woods look like “family man of the year.” Yet nobody ever really complained about his character. Most athletes who do stuff like that probably just don’t get caught…

by JimmyMack on Apr 12, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Okay whoah

Michael Jordan and Santonio Holmes? for real? the greatest basketball player ever… versus an alright receiver, there are exceptions, and then there is santonio holmes. who is not an exception.

it’s taken him 4 years to even meet expectations, and he has baggage… he has garbage character. and he’s decent, decent on the field, not excellent, not even close to a premiere receiver. he’s a waste of time and money for the Bears org.

Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear

by BearNecessities on Apr 13, 2010 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions

also, not to mention

the fact that your claims about Jordan, while unethical, aren’t illegal, gambling is fine, especially when you are filthy rich and can pay, and cheating is terrible, but it’s not beating your spouse, and choking someone unconscious.

Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear

by BearNecessities on Apr 13, 2010 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions

i agree...

My point was 4 value. A 5th rd pick. I don’t think he is making that much $ I wouldve not traded our 3rd or probably even our 4th. But I think we will take a wr in the draft with one of our picks anyway. If we move up in the draft, then I have no regrets. And watch out for those Jets. They have made some moves that if they hit, they will be a much better team. I hope they do because I hate the Colts and Pats.

by Ryan21 on Apr 13, 2010 6:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

with you on Colts and Pats

I just put you in the “shocked” group, even though Chicago rarely goes for “bad boys” and definitely doesn’t keep ‘em around. so if he’s already labeled, we’re prolly not going after them

Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear

by BearNecessities on Apr 13, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions

While I agree with Pompei's sentiment...

Even before the trade I would say Peppers is more similar to Reggie White then he is Jevon Kearse. I expect the Bears to have a much improved record this season and Peppers is just one reason why, with Urlacher’s return and Jay’s growing familiarity with the offense.

Last year everyone though Jay gave us Super Bowl potential. They were right, just premature as offenses take time to gel. Urlacher and Peppers will bolster what was a floundering D. In some ways Urlacher getting hurt and Jay’s growing pains may have led to a perfect storm, which in turn got us Peppers. While I think we were natural bound to improve, the desperation spurred us to action/Peppers. I’m just really excited for this season.

While we have needs I’d really like to go for a skill player in the 3rd. I still really like picking Gerhart there. Even if Taylor is good, he isn’t a long term solution and Gerhart is much better then whoever our 3rd RB is. If Riley Cooper is available I’d really like that pick too. Read something saying Cooper’s cockiness can be off putting as a “con”, I however see that as a “pro” for some reason with Jay.

by No It All on Apr 12, 2010 11:46 AM CDT reply actions

Wow!

Look at Mr. Sunshine today! All positive!

I’d love Gerhart, but I don’t see it happening.

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 12, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions

jeebus, are we in some type of parallel universe here?

No It All being positive…

What’s next? Is HoneyBear gonna post a LOL cat getting hit by a train… Is Spongie going to make a post in all caps and text speak… Is rdent4hof gonna put up a fanpost on why Richard Dent is actually overrated… is Adam T going to make a post without a mis-spelling? What the what is happening around WCG?

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 12, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Just to prove your point,

here’s a cat getting hit by a train! Link

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by Ashley Czuba on Apr 12, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions

nice

by chiguy8506 on Apr 12, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions

amazing...

you still found a way to make that you. ;)

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 12, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Hahaha

Whatever do you mean? That was horrible and gruesome… maybe I should’ve put a warning on it.

by Ashley Czuba on Apr 13, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions

Needs more Gummo.

by No It All on Apr 13, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions

LOLZ

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 13, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions

God, the whole four TE discussion is making my brain hurt.

How hard is it to understand this is Clark’s last year no matter what, so he’s the only real option for release unless you want to release someone that actually could be on the team next year.

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 12, 2010 12:08 PM CDT reply actions

i'd be all for releasing Clark

by No It All on Apr 12, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Here is the thing, I don't really care either way...

Clark is good depth at TE, and still has a bit left in the tank, but I don’t want him taking reps from our new blocking TE or Olsen, and I want to see Davis get more reps if possible at least in practice, so that leaves Clark as #4 TE?

If he’s fine with that, I’m fine with that, and as long as he isn’t taking a roster spot that would be better served filled by someone else.

I’m just really tired of hearing chatter about trading Olsen, or releasing Kellen Davis when neither are good decisions for the team. If the team really wants to trade Olsen, then do so after he has another up year and Davis has shown he can fill his spot, until then both rumors need to die a swift death.

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 12, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't see why they don't get rid of Clark and Davis

just keep the two

Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear

by BearNecessities on Apr 13, 2010 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions

Because if you're running two TE or....

In Mamanalaguegssgsdg’s case TE and FB/TE, you need someone to back up otherwise you lose part of your playbook when one goes down. Davis has improved every year with the team, and could be starting with a few teams in the league already. Great back up who is still on his rookie salary.

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 13, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions

I'll have to double check your spelling

but I’m pretty sure you have at least one superfluous noun in there.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 13, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions

makes sense

I was just wondering in case of space needs later. keep a prac sq TE and dump #3 or 4. if Manumaleuna and Olsen are our defacto starters

Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear

by BearNecessities on Apr 14, 2010 3:03 AM CDT up reply actions

sigh

Bears general manager Jerry Angelo recently told me that he thinks the defensive line is the deepest area in the draft

Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear

by BearNecessities on Apr 13, 2010 3:14 AM CDT reply actions

yeah... sigh...

he’s right though… it is a deep position.

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 13, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions