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Mocking The Mocks: More "experts" on the Bears

The buildup to the NFL Draft is always exciting for us football junkies.  Personally, it's one of my favorite times of the football season (there is no off-season you know). Pouring over all the mock drafts (here's mine btw) that try and predict which direction the teams will go. Looking over all the prospect profiles, the combine numbers, the youtube videos.  Comparing different scouts take on a particular player and the players draft grades on various sites.  We all do that don't we?

Sometimes I'm left wondering how the hell do some of these guys, these so called "experts", get actual jobs?  Seriously, some of the mock drafts are just so far out there it's beyond comical.  I understand when some site no one has ever heard of drops some ridiculous picks, but when it's an established entity in the sporting media.  When it's from a publication that's been covering sports since 1886.  When it's from a brand name like the Sporting News...  you expect better.  So for this version of Mocking The Mocks, I'll focus on their 7 round mock draft.

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I'll give them credit, this years overall mock draft looks better than last years version.  Last year I mocked their mock, on their own site, through my blog as seen here; Worst mock ever?, so you can get an idea on the direction they had Chicago going last year.  And here's a link to this years version so you can play along at home.

The Sporting News has some obvious mistakes as far as how their draft falls in regards to the Bears.  Their mock has some solid picks, but in the context of their draft I'm not buying their selections.

In the third round they have the Bears taking Georgia DT, Geno Atkins.  If the Bears take a defensive lineman with their first pick I'll provide the pitchforks and torches for our storm on Halas Hall.  It's not that I don't like the player, he's getting as high as a 2nd round grade from some scouts, it's just that the Bears have more pressing needs.  And take a look down their third round (click here to look), FS Morgan Burnett from Georgia Tech is still on the board and going 17 picks later to the BrownsIf Burnett is available he better be the pick in the 3rd.  Does the Sporting News prognosticators really think the Bears would take a DT over a FS, when the FS is Morgan Burnett?

In the fourth round they have the Bears going with OT Tony Washington of Abilene Christian.  I like this pick and I could see the Bears taking him in the 4th as long as they've addressed their FS need in the 3rd.  But look at some of the talent they have available after the Bears pick (you can do so by clicking here).  Alabama guard Mike Johnson and Kansas safety Darell Stuckey would both be solid options depending on how the Bears draft in the 3rd.  If it were me drafting, I think I go with Johnson over Washington as I feel guard is a bigger need.

In the fifth round they finally have Jerry Angelo picking a safety in Darian Stewart of South Carolina.  A fine player, but he's projected as a strong safety.  Do the Bears really need an in the box strong safety type?  Who's making the picks over there at Sporting News?  Do they understand the Bears roster as it stands right now?  Strong safety; looking all right, but free safety; they needy.  They have some other better options available in their mock (as seen here).  I'm all for some secondary help, they have Alabama corner Javier Arenas going with the next pick and Oklahoma corner Dominique Franks going even further down the 5th round.  Arenas I've seen with as high as a 3rd round grade and Franks as high as a 2nd.  I'd take either over Stewart.  And if a SS was really what I wanted I think I'd opt for Florida State and Rhodes Scholar Myron Rolle who they have going 13 picks later to the Packers.

Sixth round and now SN is thinking corner for the Bears with Rafael Priest of TCU.  Here's a guy that couldn't run at his pro day due to a lingering foot injury.  He had a nice senior season, but he isn't on a lot of teams radar.  If corner was really a direction they think the Bears should go, did they not see the talent up in the 5th round?  For my 6th round money I'm going in another direction (here's their 6th round).  Centers John Estes of Hawaii and Ted Larson of North Carolina State both seem like better pro prospects that Priest.  And would fill a need for interior line depth.

They go back to offensive tackle with Otis Hudson of Eastern Illinois in the seventh.  Otis Hudson.  Otis Hudson?  Is that kid even gonna get drafted?  And why does SN have the Bears taking two tackles when they need a G/C prospect?  They have center Eric Olsen of Notre Dame going a few picks before Hudson.  And look who's going right after Hudson (by clicking here), Pat Angerer the ILB of Iowa.  I' d like that kind of value in the 7th.  And later on, at pick 234 overall they have fast rising Akwasi Owusu-Ansah the CB/FS out of Indiana (PA) going to the Patriots.  They even have higher regarded tackles going later on; Sam Young of Notre Dame (226) and Selvish Capers of West Virginia (246) 

They have a few other head-scratchers on their mock draft so be sure to check it out top to bottom if you are a draftnik like myself.  I can respect them making an educated guess that goes against the grain, like Nate Allen the South Florida FS going 1st round #24 to the Eagles, that one, I can see happening.  But some of the others...  what are they thinking?  Do they rock a ping pong lottery machine at Sporting News?  Are they just throwing darts for the late round picks?    If that's the case hire me, I'm not that bad a dart thrower.


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completely right

these draft “gurus” are insane. If our first pick is anything but a FS, there won’t be a halas hall anymore.

I do like the Tony Washington pick however, although i think he may last until the 5th, but we do need a RT, figuring they’ll just keep Gate 68(credit Smudgers) in at LG, i just know it

Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear

by BearNecessities on Apr 15, 2010 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

unless the Safeties available dont warrant a 3rd round pick

But like lester said if Burnett is still there no questions asked

by Bear Lovin 21 on Apr 15, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Bears take a defensive lineman with their first pick I’ll provide the pitchforks and torches for our storm on Halas Hall.

Do the Bears really need an in the box strong safety type? Who’s making the picks over there at Sporting News? Do they understand the Bears roster as it stands right now?

Ladies and Gentlemen, please give a warm welcome to your Chicago Bears’ General Manager: Jerrrrrrrrry Angelo!

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 15, 2010 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

oh boy oh boy

not again, the headaches just stopped

Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear

by BearNecessities on Apr 15, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only HB will care, but I used the name of the team in a possessive form there, hence the apostrophe. It could have gone without, had it not been possessive, and still been correct. Whew, had to get that off my chest, it’s been bugging me since I posted it.

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 15, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That grammar rule always gets me

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 15, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understood your apostrophe...

don’t worry! :]

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by Ashley Czuba on Apr 15, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is pretty bogus

And last year at this time, even I knew Nate Davis in Round 2 wasn’t going to happen!

"Dick Butkus once tackled the Packers."
"Dick Butkus played all 11 defensive positions...at the same time."
"Dick Butkus once sacked a quarterback simply by looking at him."

by Sam Householder on Apr 15, 2010 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

They were really off last year

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 15, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just goes to show

most “experts” don’t do an actual analysis of each team’s roster. Tackle over guard? SS over FS? DT over FS and G? They certainly don’t know what they’re doing, cause if anything JA will take a project DE with his 3rd round pick. If he drafts a D-linemen, the pitch-forks and torches will definitely be out! The current linemen need to play better; simple as that.

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by propheteer on Apr 15, 2010 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Absolutely no excuse...

For this kind of terrible drafting. The primary difficulty of projecting late round picks in a vacuum is that you don’t know what everyone else is doing. When you pick for every single team you eliminate that difficulty, making it fairly simple to make sane educated guesses. This is full of fail.

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by Jacob Hayes on Apr 15, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Re: Geno Atkins

I like Geno Atkins.

He was a highly-touted prep prospect who signed with Georgia after being tabbed the 5-A state of Florida Defensive Player of the Year. In his sophmore year where he started only 7 games, he amassed 41 tackles, including 15 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks.

Impressive!

The problem was that after that year, he kinda disappeared in the stat column. Many people believe that he had a nagging injury that he didn’t disclose or that when fellow DT Owens went down, teams doubled him.

NEvertheless, the guy “wowed” scouts at the Senior Bowl and COmbine, showing that there is plenty of potential there, but the work effort might not have been there at the collegiate level.

With Tommie Harris being through the “meat” of his contract after this 2010 season, the Bears can trim their roster of him in 2011 if he doesn’t perform at all-pro level. Geno Atkins, who has moved up the roster board because of his skill, could be a good CHEAP alternative for a few years.

Does that mean the Bears abandon ship on FS or LG? No.

With some solid veterans still available (including EVERYONE’S immediate answer to the solution— O.J. Atogwe), the Bears could still address the positions and think towards the future.

Do I think Atkins is the choice if Burnett is on the board? No, but I don’t think it’s a terrrible pick…

… I would think the Gilbert pick is a TERRIBLE pick. haah!

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Apr 15, 2010 12:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I bet the Bears are preparing to have Gilbert simply jump over the OL and onto the QB when the ball’s snapped, possibly while yelling “DEATH FROM ABOVE!!!”

It’ll change the way teams have to block in much the same way that, pre-Lawrence Taylor, teams used to stop blitzing LBs with RBs. Keep an eye out for Gilbert lining up in a 2-point stance and prepare for the awesome :-D

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 15, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

BWAHAHAHA!!!

Two-point stance!? haha!

That’s hilarious, bro!

Are we talking with both hands on the ground? ;-)

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Apr 15, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like him too

Good value with that pick, but Burnett would be an even better value to Chicago

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 15, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

With all the noise about needing a free safety this offseason – even Lovie’s been talking about – I can’t see that JA won’t look for a starter in the draft (and one would like to think he’s learned a thing or two about late-round picks and their likelihood to be effective), unless they’re planning a very expensive free agent splash after June 1st.

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 15, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of a certain Safety

Whos name starts with an O ends with a WE and in the middle has TOG

by Bear Lovin 21 on Apr 15, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I say we give you a shot this year Lester

I find myself liking your thinking better than JA’s any day.

by TheMan1 on Apr 15, 2010 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

YES!

I like it!

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 15, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair

There is a decent chance of this being what the Bears actually do.

It certainly isn’t what they need, but Jerry Angelo does love his defensive lineman and late-round strong safeties.

by TCBullfrog on Apr 15, 2010 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep.

From the looks of it, they’re just predicting what JA is likely to do, not what he ought to do.

by oripunk3485 on Apr 15, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

JA needs a G

not 2 tackles, one of which won’t even get drafted

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 15, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong...

I think your analysis is right on point. I just think that if someone were looking at draft history and team management, they could easily have JA taking a DT with the first pick (one with a possible nagging injury per ChicagoMarine), a tackle or two (you can always convert one to a guard, right?), and a SS to play FS.

They did miss the requisite Vanderbilt pick, however. So they couldn’t have done too much research.

by oripunk3485 on Apr 15, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

There is, every year, a BIG difference between what the fans want the Bears to do (and what makes sense to do based on team needs) and what Angelo actually does.

Every year I’m disappointed. Every year I’m shocked when a player that seems to fit the Bears needs is passed by in place of either a trade down, a pick at a surplus position, a player from a small school I’ve never heard of, or a player they think they can convert to a position of need (at least once a year it’s a strong safety they think can be a FS even though they are slow and have no instincts, AND a D-linemen they think can be swtiched from a tackle to and end or vice versa.

I wish Angelo made any sense in his drafting, it would make mock drafts and draft research so much more fun and worthwhile. As it stands, I refuse to get into it because he crushes me every year.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Apr 15, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't Tony Washington the one that had sex with his sister when he was 15?

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Apr 15, 2010 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I understand your point

… but what if they try to make their mocks realistic instead of what should happen? Given recent history, its fairly likely that JA will go DL with one of his first picks and almost every draft we get another SS instead of FS.

by Lux et Salus on Apr 15, 2010 4:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Not this year

After taking 2 D-Lineman last draft, I don’t see any way JA would go DL with that 1st pick.

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 16, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

New recruits for the Redshirt program, of course!

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 16, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You never know

But the only time Angelo didn’t draft a defensive lineman was the draft after he just drafted two (Harris and Tank).

If he does draft a DL in the 3rd that tells me they have no faith in anything about Gilbert or Melton.

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 16, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

He got a great starter and a decent backup in those two. We have no idea what we have in Gilbert and Melton, though.

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 16, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chicago Bears Draft and rumours

  There was conversations about bears trading their 3rd round pick in 2010 and 2nd drft pick in 2011 to Washington Redskins for Albert haynesworth. This would be an intriguing move,. It would solidfy Bears Defensive line and would not cost the bears much in terms of. It appears that the Redskins don’t value Haynesworth skills very much and is wiling to part way with him for draft picks. Sure Haynesworth has more value than this year’s 3rd round draft pick and next year’s 2011 2nd round draft choice. And the bears defensive lime would be much improved. Competition would be created in the defensive line with Tommire Harrison, Julius Peppers,Henry Melton, etc. Haynesworth is a definite run/rush stopper. He would surely plug up the middle of the defensive line. With strong defensive line free safety and strong safety should not be as strong a priority as it is now.

by J.K. on Apr 15, 2010 4:51 PM CDT reply actions  

They cut Brown for, among other reasons, too much money being tied up in one area of the team. Unless they change their minds again or Haynesworth is willing to play for peanuts, it ain’t happening.

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 15, 2010 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correction
Haynesworth is a definite run/rush stopper. He would surely plug up the middle of the defensive line.

You forgot to add “when/if he feels like it” to the rest of your statement.
 
I haven’t heard this rumor, but it seems to me that the Lions would be the more obvious trade partner for Washington. It would put Haynesworth back with Schwartz (assuming Schwartz wants to be back with him) and would free up Detroit to take Okung with their first pick instead of Suh. It would also allow Suh or McCoy to drop to Washington at the four spot.

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by JerBear50 on Apr 15, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Link?

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 16, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

The sad thing is

We have really no connection to what is going on in the sporting world outside of the internet or papers. I agree this mock seems wrong, and wouldn’t be who I would choose, but these guys have a few more connections then I do.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 15, 2010 6:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Did you look at their 2009 mock?

Sporting News has a history of crazy picks!

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 16, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you on the fact that they are terrible picks...

…but the more i think about it the more it actually sounds like a JA/Lovie draft. Maybe instead of selecting who the bears “should” take they are selecting who they think the bears will take.

by Jhitt81 on Apr 15, 2010 6:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Is Rolle really expected to fall that far?

I didn’t think he’d make it down that low. Also, this mock is obviously flawed because it doesn’t have us taking a single Vandy player. Abilene Christian is right on the money though.

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by JerBear50 on Apr 15, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Mocking the Mocker

Burnet in the mock draft goes to Dallas with 27th pick in 2nd round not 28 th in 3rd to Browns. Edit time

by gageguy on Apr 16, 2010 12:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

Dallas will be looking for a FS early

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 16, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Burnett looks like

he’s getting ready to faceplant into the cement… ouchies.

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by Ashley Czuba on Apr 16, 2010 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe he thinks it’s measured to the furthest point he can touch ;-D

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 16, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

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