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Bears comfortable not signing FA safety, but are you?


Wcg_thumb_notes_medium The Bears secondary, for most of Lovie Smith's tenure, has been a musical chairs act of playing guys out of position, placing them in situations where they're hard-pressed to excel.

Now that many feel they're in a desperate, must-win-now situation, you'd think they would do anything they could to shore the team up and win now. But that doesn't seem to be the case.

Here's Jerry Angelo talking about the safety position:

"We looked at a veteran safety, but we felt that we wanted to pass on that. We just didn't feel the timing was right. So we'll just wait and see. Again, you're not going to field a Pro Bowler at every position, and you don't have to. The players that we presently have we feel good about. But we always want to create competition and better depth.

But does this mean that they're going to draft? Roll with what they have? Or could comments-favorite O.J. Atogwe still be in play?

Star-divide

There's an interesting article at the St. Louis Globe-Democrat about the status of O.J. Atogwe's contract:

Unless there is permission from their teams, once April 15 passes, restricted free agents are not allowed to negotiate with other teams. However, there can be discussions of potential trades.

Atogwe was tendered at the lowest level for his years of experience -- $1.226 million -- and would have no required compensation if there was an offer sheet that the Rams elected not to match.

If the day passes without an offer sheet, June 1 becomes the next key date. By that day, the Rams have to decide whether to issue a new tender at 110 percent of his 2009 salary of $6.342 million, when he was the team's franchise player.

Could the Bears be trying to gambit on this? The idea being, the Rams obviously don't seem that interested in paying Atogwe $7 million, and he doesn't particularly seem interested in signing the low offer. If they offer that tender, and he doesn't accept, he becomes a restricted free agent.

That leaves the small, but possible, chance they could make the play. But will they? Likely not. The more likely scenario at this point, I believe, is the drafting of someone for the position. But what do you think is most likely to happen?

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What will the Bears do about the Free Safety position?
Draft.
374 votes
Free Agent of some kind.
271 votes
Stay put.
81 votes

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If the draft falls right

They could get a FS starter in either the 3rd or 4th round… but you thing they’d feel better with a vet

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 15, 2010 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

That would be ideal

But I have a feeling Angelo’s gonna take a DE or DT with one of our top 2 picks…

by JimmyMack on Apr 16, 2010 4:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

#%#^%$@

!

Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear

by BearNecessities on Apr 16, 2010 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

By all that is holy

I hope we don’t pick one outside of round 5, we could use depth there, but we obviously have bigger needs.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 17, 2010 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me neither

But then again, we don’t exactly have a draft guru evaluating our needs and the available talent… Look at the last couple of moves we’ve made: gave up our 2nd rounder this year for a DE and then paid $90 million for a free agent DE. I think our management spends 95% of their time thinking and scheming about how to pick up defensive ends…

by JimmyMack on Apr 17, 2010 5:02 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Then we cut a DE we'd recently signed to a longer term contract

without any compensation and let go a veteran DE that we probably overpaid for in the first place. Bravo Sir!! Excellent post.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 18, 2010 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

this makes me sick

when a guy like OJ Atogwe is still available at this point and a team with a glaring need at safety doesnt sign for that little of money him that is why the whole front office needs to be fired. i understand you dont need a pro bowler at every position but if you have the opportunity to do it then why not?

by dabears85 on Apr 15, 2010 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Screw that, they already spent enough money

Just throw more of it on the pile!

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Apr 15, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good Pass Rush = QB Pressure = Mistakes = Interceptions

If bears defensive line does its job right, our secondary will improve.

Atogwe will demand an expensive contract. He’s probably worth it, but when you don’t have the money, you don’t get the players.

BEAR DOWN!!

by Pulyx on Apr 15, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

We're not gonna get him at 1.2 million

Just because that’s the tender offer doesn’t mean anything. Obviously if we offered him a contract that low, the Rams would just match. It’d take a lot more to get him. Whether or not he’s worth that is up for debate, but it’s not a no-brainer decision either way.

Brad Miller is god.

by Poloplaya14 on Apr 16, 2010 3:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I say

If the draft falls right and you can get a starting FS you don’t need to go to FA
If you end up having to draft a guard, get Atogwe.

by DaHamsta on Apr 15, 2010 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I want Atogwe!

GET HIM NOW!

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Apr 15, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Draft

I think JA is living in his fantasy world. And to me, it can’t be overlooked about the difference in opinion between JA and Lovie regarding the safety position. Kev H quotes JA in this post saying he’s good staying put but then we have Lovie just a month or so ago at the owners meetings saying that it was a glaring need and he wanted it addressed in the draft.

"Dick Butkus once tackled the Packers."
"Dick Butkus played all 11 defensive positions...at the same time."
"Dick Butkus once sacked a quarterback simply by looking at him."

by Sam Householder on Apr 15, 2010 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

For future reference

You can probably just say Kev. :P

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Apr 15, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder who will win out?

Lovie or JA? Both their jobs are on the line and he says he’s happy? He must know something I figured he and Lovie would back each other.If we don’t address that need then the signing of JP won’t be that great(I think)

by chiguy8506 on Apr 15, 2010 3:57 PM CDT reply actions  

This is what i think lovie smith and jerry angelo should do!

they should get together in a room, lock all the doors, put on some bob marley, spark a fatty and and have a serious talk about where they wanna apply to be ball boys next year.

by 6to23 on Apr 15, 2010 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's what i dont understand

If the Rams dont wanna pay Otogwe 6.342 mil Why not offer him the same damn tender right now before the draft? Chances are he’s gonna want that same money as a free-agent and the price might actually go higher than that if/when he hits the market. Signing him to that tender now like today will not only force the Rams to make a decision on whether or not they want to keep him but will also tell us which way we want to go in the draft. Best case scenario- The Rams dont match we get the FS we all want and need then draft O-Line with the 3rd round pick. Worse Case- The Rams match and we go FS with the pick. People criticize Lovie but i bet he would have already made an offer to Otogwe and he would either be a Bear right now or we would know for sure what to do concerning the draft.

It's playoff time and im in asshole mode circa 09 Mamba...Fuck your team and their title chances.

by EmmCeee on Apr 15, 2010 4:25 PM CDT reply actions  

One of two possibilities..

Either they jump for Atogwe right before the draft, or they draft a FS high. Also anyone who voted stay put better have a great explanation why

by Pretender85 on Apr 15, 2010 4:42 PM CDT reply actions  

That wont work

Teams have a week to match the offer…..If we wait too long the Rams could wait us out and we still wont know what to go after in the draft.

It's playoff time and im in asshole mode circa 09 Mamba...Fuck your team and their title chances.

by EmmCeee on Apr 15, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why no option for both?

I really think they come away with a high draft pick and a veteran afterward. Maybe even two FS, one being a hybrid S/CB.

''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou

by propheteer on Apr 15, 2010 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Based on his track record

I wouldn’t put it past Angelo to take a DT or DE with one of our top picks (3rd or 4th round).

by JimmyMack on Apr 15, 2010 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

It will depend on...

Pass Rush!

Teams, specially tampa 2 teams have better secondaries when they have dominant Pass Rush.
Remember how well Vasher and Tillman played when bears had some kind of passrush ? (either for Brown, Ogunleye or Harris)

So i think if Bears Pass Rush works better this season, Zack Bowman, Tillman and Kevin Payne or Manning will have strong performances.

Its up to you, Bears DL.

BEAR DOWN!!

by Pulyx on Apr 15, 2010 5:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Normally

FS would be a mid to late round selection, but this draft, having some of the best S in recent history, most quality safeties will go before the end of round 2. So unless you want more sub-par safety play like the last 2 seasons, we need to find a way into the first two rounds or pick up someone in FA.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 15, 2010 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll prove he's a SS in the NFL as soon as you prove he can play FS...

on an NFL level. See you in the fall!

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 15, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has played FS

but he hasn’t played SS… go figure. Advantage me. Fail = you.

by No It All on Apr 16, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Except...

The quick and dirty break down of the kid is that he is big, strong, and delivers hard hits, while having only average hands. This is while running at 4.6 40, and around 31 inch vert.

All his measurables and his somewhat shaky coverage at times screams SS.

I actually think he’d make a really good SS at the NFL level, but I just think he’s not that much better than some of the other guys we already have that are fits at SS on the roster.

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 16, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like him

at SS, but the whole good hands things doesn’t apply to any of our safeties right now.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 17, 2010 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don’t make me quote Bertrand Russell again.

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 17, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

In their system at Virginia tech

The “rover” he played is like a SS

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 16, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last year is was a FS in college

but wasn’t he the SS/LB rover before that?

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 16, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

last 2 years, starting FS

he was a rover and even a QB before that.

by No It All on Apr 16, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

one can be a big hitting but slow footed FS in college

but it is pretty hard to do in the NFL.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Apr 17, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

no, that's the NFL

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Apr 18, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would facepalm it.

And I wouldn’t be the only one.

I like Chancellor, but in my opinion, he’d be much better at this level as a SS, not a FS.

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Apr 15, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Face palm x10^3

Makes no sense. But let’s get him anyway cause he’s generates controversy conversation. Kam Chancellor has become punch line on this site. Give it up. It was amusing 3 weeks ago….

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 15, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course this post makes me racist

cause you assume I’m white while I assume you’re black. Let’s switch icons a mess everyone up. Then you’ll discover I’m actually a lesbian trapped in a man’s body while you’re an angry (insert your color here) man with a B.A. haircut and sleeves NOT allowed in the wardrobe.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 15, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um

Surely you’re not talking to me…because we agree…right?

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Apr 16, 2010 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

or at OLB

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 16, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

SS OR FS

Chancellor starts over anyone we have right now

by No It All on Apr 16, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

is he your cousin or something?

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Apr 17, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

you are getting weaker by the post

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Apr 18, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

weak

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Apr 19, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I want a 4th option

Draft or sign a strong safety prospect and “mold” him into a free safety.
                    You could then go with another option;
Draft or sign a strong safety prospect and unsuccessfully try to “mold” him into a free safety.
                    And yet a 6th option;
Try and pretend the strong safeties on our roster are ACTUAL free safeties.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 15, 2010 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Can we retroactively change FA FS to...

Atogwe? If we got Atogwe I’m all for a FA, otherwise, hit the draft up. I’m not really interested in anyone else left in the market.

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 15, 2010 11:36 PM CDT reply actions  

sharper

pretty much showed he could still play. we all know angelo will take a linebacker in the third.

by mike b on Apr 16, 2010 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Why, for the love of God

It doesn’t make sense! On a side note, how do any of us have any idea what Angelo will do?

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 17, 2010 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

It’s because it doesn’t make any sense, that’s why.

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 17, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh ok

Well then I’d like a GM that makes sense please.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 17, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mike Ditka??

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 18, 2010 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could accept that

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 18, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the bears want to spend money how about...

Haynesworth? The dline would be fearsome with that signing and then we can draft safety and whatever else.

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt". -Mark Twain

by pappabearhalas on Apr 18, 2010 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

That would be great

But there is no way the FO will drop more money, plus I don’t want to see that many big deals just on our DL

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 18, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our DL

Would be the most expensive thing since the space program, we can do it cheaper with other players, plus having 2 big attitude guys on the same line isn’t going to help anything.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 18, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

but it would be nice if he came cheap (Wash picks up a lot of his remaining guaranteed money). Just curious, your profile says your a Bronco fan but you talk like your a Bear fan as well. What’s up with this?

''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou

by propheteer on Apr 18, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've liked both a while

So I switch between the sites. It wouldn’t look so weird if the whole Cutler trade hadn’t happened, but hey got to root for the teams you like.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 18, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

they should go get samari rolle

by spazzmo on Apr 16, 2010 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like a sushi "rolle"

special at his favorite restaurant.

''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou

by propheteer on Apr 18, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

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