Olsen will fit the Martz system, or the "system is wrong"

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 21, 2010 2:00 PM CDT

One of the more popular topics here on WCG is the Greg Olsen & Mike Martz, will they or won't they topic. Now I may be just stoking the fires, but sometimes that's what I like to do. Yesterday ESPN Chicago had a piece from Jeff Dickerson about this very thing.

"If there's a player that can't fit a system, then something is wrong -- if he's a good player -- with the system. Don't you think?" Martz said Tuesday at Halas Hall.

Martz even seems to be happy with Olsen so far.

"Our deal is, we will give everybody an opportunity to find who they are and how they will contribute. Everybody will get that opportunity, and Greg will, too. He's learned things very quickly, very pleased with just the few things we've done on the field. Not disappointed in any respect."

But he still makes sure to let it be know he expects some good blocking from the position.

"He needs to get grounded in blocking, and he knows that, we've told him that," Martz said. "It's hard to run the ball if you don't have a tight end that's going to handle the edge over there. We've got a number of tight ends because we anticipate running the ball very well when we want to run it."

Martz also drops some nice things about Jay Cutler, check it out.

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Ok, so how are you stoking the fire? What is your point?

Not to be too harsh, but I’m not sure I see what you’re getting at? Martz and Olsen are getting alone? That’s great, we should see some good production on the field and some better blocking from him maybe.

"I was interviewing George Halas and I asked him who is the greatest running back you ever saw. And he said, 'That would be Red Grange.' And I asked him if Grange was playing today, how many yards do you think he'd gain. And he said, 'About 750, maybe 800 yards.' And I said, 'Well, 800 yards is just okay.' He sat up in his chair and he said, 'Son, you must remember one thing. Red Grange is 75 years old.' - Chris Berman

by Sam Householder on Apr 21, 2010 4:06 PM CDT reply actions

They're getting alone?

Sounds kinky.

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by Kev H on Apr 21, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Even I didn’t go there :-D

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 21, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Sometimes you have to exercise executive privilege.

And sometimes you’re just bored at work.

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by Kev H on Apr 22, 2010 6:20 AM CDT up reply actions

You must not have been around much lately

Or maybe you just missed all the Olsen is soft, trade Olsen, he’ll never fit in a Martz offense, he sucks as a blocker, Martz already replaced him with Brandon Manamaluuu (sp?), move Olsen to full time WR, etc…

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 21, 2010 4:11 PM CDT reply actions

Yea , those were some lengthy discussions ! I get the ....

….. feeling you missed them GallopingGhost .

by MidWayMonster54 on Apr 21, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions

yep

When I wrote this post, it got 260 comments!

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 21, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Wow, and was it an.....

epic battle!

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Apr 21, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes , Yes it was !!!! And it didn't ...

… stop there either . Heres another post that was based around Greg Olsen supporters as well as haters and yet another post for Greg Olsen support and hate . And the debate continues …………………………..

by MidWayMonster54 on Apr 21, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Lol they were some classics midway

by Bear Lovin 21 on Apr 21, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Sorry to disappoint you, Lester...

but I’m spent.

by ChiLobo#23 on Apr 21, 2010 4:55 PM CDT reply actions

haha!

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 22, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions

Olson is not just soft... he is ultra soft

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I do think Martz will be able to utilize Olsen’s talents as a catcher. I would like to see him line up in the backfield and move around to exploit matchups. With Hester and DA out wide Olsen and Knox should hold their own in the middle. As far as the passing game is concerned Jay hearts Greg and a starter better then DA is a bigger priority… I don’t like Olsen as the number one option on every passing play when everyone in the stadium knows Jay is throwing to him, again. Riley Cooper in the 3rd round?

But having to bring in Manumaleuna every time we run isn’t going to work. Martz aside, a TE that helps the running game (not the passing game) is not just traditional Bears (running football), but fundamental football. I’m not against a TE that can improve the passing game in today’s NFL, but we need a TE that brings the blocking dimension and maybe adds to the passing game. It is as if Olsen is one dimensional, and it is the wrong dimension.

But Martz can work wonders with Olsen and
While Ultra Soft, this TP is rather durable. So there is that.

by No It All on Apr 21, 2010 11:40 PM CDT reply actions

like your arguments

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by lookingdeadred on Apr 22, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions

I’m just thankful the Bears haven’t become partners to advertise Charmin toilet paper… yet.

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 22, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Should have just left this one alone

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by BearNecessities on Apr 22, 2010 6:29 AM CDT reply actions

In defense of Olsen:

Some have argued that he drops the ball. pff.com did an analysis on all WR and TE’s and Olsen graded out as the 4th BEST in the NFL w a very low drop percentage. LINK

Name Team Catches Drops Drop %
Greg Olsen Chicago Bears 59 2 3.28

by Mike Mueller on Apr 22, 2010 7:50 AM CDT reply actions