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2010 Chicago Bears/ NFL Draft (Rounds 4 & 5 Open Thread)

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What Day 3 will lack in excitement, it will make up for in content.  Roughly 61% of the Draft remains, and it will all occur today.  What will the Chicago Bears do next?

So far, we've got the hard-hitting FS from Florida, Major Wright, who the brass has already said should have an opportunity to start this year for the Bears.  While Wright goes to work, we'll keep an eye out for the next new Bear.

ROUND 4 UPDATE: With the 11th pick (109 overall), the Bears pick 6'6" 270lb Corey Wootton, DE from Northwestern.  

ROUND 5 UPDATE: With the 10th pick (141 overall), the Bears select Joshua Moore, DB from Kansas St.

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Corey Wootton from NFL.com:

Corey is an outstanding combination of size and strength for the position. His production is down from previous seasons and much of that can be attributed to a knee injury sustained in the Alamo Bowl at the end of last season. He is a decent athlete but not an explosive player off the edge. His lateral agility and change of direction hinders his playmaking ability in space. Corey does defend the run well and can anchor effectively to hold the point. He utilizes quick hands and long arms to control blockers but needs to expand his pass rush package to be effective at the next level. Wootton's measurables, instincts and toughness makes him an interesting prospect for most defensive fronts. He wasn't nearly as effective as previous seasons and knee concerns will be closely scrutinized going into the 2010 Draft.

Joshua Moore, from NFL.com:

Moore is a short, compactly built player with good athleticism and power. He doesn't have ideal footwork and agility for the cornerback position and is a bit of a 'tweener for an NFL secondary. He is inconsistent with his instincts and leveraging the ball in the open field. Moore is tough and competitive but inconsistent as a run-support player. He could improve his overall play with better footwork and technique, as he does have decent speed once he transitions. Moore has been productive over the past two seasons and can contribute as a rookie on special teams and as a nickel back in sub packages.

Formatting will be a bit different today... we won't have a live-updated draft board.  But, we'll make sure to update the threads with each Chicago Bears pick, and will provide fresh threads occasionally to prevent overflow.

So, grab your coffee (or bloody mary), and buckle in for the last day of the biggest event in the 2010 offseason.  We're live!

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It’s believed the team was prepared to trade down if one of the four players they had targeted did not fall to them. At the start of the round all four players — South Florida cornerback Jerome Murphy, Iowa corner Amari Spievey, Georgia Tech safety Morgan Burnett and Wright — were available.

The Bears probably would have had their choice between Wright and Burnett if the Packers had not given the Eagles their fourth-round pick and their third to move up 15 spots in the round. The Packers really didn’t need a safety, but they knew the Bears needed one, so they jumped ahead of the Bears and a few other safety-needy teams to take Burnett.

link….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 8:19 AM CDT reply actions  

WOW !

Packers gave up a 4th round pick to draft Burnett????I hope he has a terrible 2 years,and the packers release him….

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even better is the pack gm claims he did not know the Bears were targeting him or needed a FS....

But in a press conference with reporters, Packers general manager Ted Thompson said he was not aware of the Bears’ interest in Burnett.

“I didn’t even know they were picking,” Thompson said. "I just knew that there was a long list of names… We had these slot charts in each round and on my slot chart we were way down here and the pick was way up there and I wanted to move up there because I didn’t think he would get there.

“If I was a better gambler or poker player, maybe I could have waited out, but we felt strongly that he would be a good addition to our team.”

link…

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN ironically saves their best

host and panel for the late rounds. lol

by Dils on Apr 24, 2010 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

OHHH

trent dilfer called golden tate a big reach of the draft…..mean guy that trent is…

OHH then herm edwards called the tebow pick the biggest reach so far…..

These guys are mean….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 8:27 AM CDT reply actions  

I never like any of his analysis

the guy has a superbowl ring because he was good at handing off..

" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-

by tfrabotta on Apr 24, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah Dilfer has a thing

for QBs that were game managers like him. That’s why he can’t stand Cutler but loves guys like Orton. I actually do agree with him though that McCoy has a chance to be pretty good

by Dils on Apr 24, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hub and Hampton

Hub is furious that the Bears are not looking at O line for this draft…..

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Now Hub

is demanding the Bears take Coorey Wooten with their next pick….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Angelo

stated not interested in campbell…..something about attitude I think…

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bad attitude?

He goes to the Raiders

Red and Black Attack - Northern Illinois Pride

by Mike Breese on Apr 24, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

lendale traded to seattle...

ahhh…now steeler fans cant boo him….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Prediction

Angelo drafts a Defensive lineman with this pick.

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Wooton

would be a great pick here

Red and Black Attack - Northern Illinois Pride

by Mike Breese on Apr 24, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would like

it as would hub apparently but I think they go DB here….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

One more pick

till the Bears….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Raiders

Just traded with the Jags to take their pick

Red and Black Attack - Northern Illinois Pride

by Mike Breese on Apr 24, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

think they

go wooten then…

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe not lol

jacoby ford

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Selvish Capers

There’s a huge drop-off between Capers and the other offensive line prospects. Seriously, who could watch the 2009 Bears and think that the O-Line doesn’t need any additional depth? If we pick another defender, then we might as well replace Jerry Angelo with Al Davis.

by Guancous on Apr 24, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

If there is anything benevolent in this world...

Petrus will be the pick here.

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 9:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Bears taking

AOA looks like per biggs

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:41 AM CDT reply actions  

AOA =

Akawasi OwsusAnsah

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:42 AM CDT reply actions  

who?

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Apr 24, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

He is a DB

was climbing up the boards before the draft

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

coorey Wooten is the pick

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Knew they would take

a DE while I dont love the pick….think it is a good pick…

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hell yea Wooton

I called it yesterday but i thought we were going to get him in the 3rd round lol

by BEARSFAN19 on Apr 24, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Now Hub and Hampton

love the pick:

About time they listen to me….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

value, depth, pressure on the quarterback,

yadda yadda yadda.

CANNOT RUN THE FOOTBALL.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Apr 24, 2010 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Finally Angelo actually waits until the 4th round

instead of the 2nd round to take a chance on an injured player. I like the pick!!

by Dils on Apr 24, 2010 9:45 AM CDT reply actions  

I wish they got got bruce campbell… f the raiders

by sirus19x on Apr 24, 2010 9:45 AM CDT reply actions  

I do remember the Bears

Brought Wooton in for a workout and i guess he impressed. Plus Wooton was the best available player left

by BEARSFAN19 on Apr 24, 2010 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Wooton Highlights

Link 1….

Link 2…..

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Another highlight reel

Link 3….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

he keeps

getting manhandled. i don’t like this pick.

by Nih1lus on Apr 24, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

these are also pre-knee problems.

post-knee highlights there’s no explosiveness.

by Nih1lus on Apr 24, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

What?

Getting manhandled, more like manhandleing. My two favorites are the one where he reads the end around, grabs the offensive guy with one arm, and takes him down(about 1:36 into link 3) and the one where he is about to get get a safety on the quarterback, but knocks the ball out so they get a touchdown instead (about :43 into link 3). Watch the left end #99, cause I don’t know what you’re seeing.

by Higgins on Apr 24, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wooten is good - 270 6 6

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Apr 24, 2010 9:48 AM CDT reply actions  

um, height and size doesnt make him good

the scouting report on the kid sounds horrible and the highlights arent great either. Way to go Bears, keep up the good work. Needs on O line and there is no way this kid is best available player on the board so whats the deal.

"Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. "---George S. Halas

by Halas is God!!!!! on Apr 24, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Glad we don't need offensive line.

With all the expensive free agents we invested there, and all those draft picks last year on the offensive line, it would have been really foolish to add another one.

Angelo in bonkers. We are to defensive line what Detroit is to wide recievers.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Apr 24, 2010 9:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah but the Lions last pick at WR turned out to be pretty good

He got a 1st round talent in the 4th. I’m going to cut Angelo some slack on this one

by Dils on Apr 24, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

If he's that talented, you can't pass,

and I’m for giving our insane DL coach lots of talent to work with. But the guy has to be more aggressive fixing the line. It’s in shambles. It was awful last year, and this year it may be worse – old, small, and out of position. I could have lived with crappy safeties. I can’t live with Forte getting nailed in the backfield all year, Cutler winging off his back foot…we made that guy our franchise player. Support him please!

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Apr 24, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

So that's

Peppers, Idonije, Anderson, Melton/Gilbert, Wooten at DE
and
Beekman at LG…….Nice pick Angelo.

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 9:48 AM CDT reply actions  

according to Dickerson

looks like the Bears are not enamored with Melton and looks like to be oh the way out….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep....

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shocker:

an undersized guy that didn’t produce in college didn’t produce in the pros. At least Okwo will have some company as “draft pick that didnt have a chance to succeed” albeit for different reasons.

It’s not that I mind missing on players. I mind missing on players with so little chance for success.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Apr 24, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

i don't consider 6'7 270lbs undersized

and when the Bears chose him he was the top player on Mayocks “best available”

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a good pick!

I will give JA a pass on this one………

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

God this team can be so bad at drafting its almost laughable..

They reach for a project DE, then give up on him in a year…We def need a new front office and staff next year.

(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."

by ThorCo on Apr 24, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

This man speaks truth.

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 24, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bunch of Morons

Why do we keep stockpiling all these DL tweeners with at least one “Recent and Major” injury history?
We still have two redshirted DL tweeners from last years draft that have yet to see the field?
Has any of these gee-wizz picks Ever turned out??
But your right McRip we have Beekman at LG and Garza might be able to fake his way thru one more year.
Forte and Taylor will be luck to average over 2.0 ypc and Marts thinks he’s going to have Jay taking 5 and 7 step dropbacks??
How about 4 and a half steps and get dropped on your ass.

by pete banachi on Apr 24, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wooton is definitely no tweener

at 6’6" 270lbs he’s most definitely a DE. The more I think about it the more I’m starting to like this kid. Put him with Hot Rod for a year and on the line next to Peppers and he could develop into a cheaper, younger Alex Brown at the very least. And besides, I highly doubt that the team would’ve given a 4th round guard a chance to start, my guess is that they are banking on Beekman or a veteran (that they’re going to bring in).

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, that might make sense

But if not planning on trying to find someone in the draft, then they’d better actually bring a veteran in to create some competition at the left guard spot.

by JimmyMack on Apr 24, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Faneca

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we were going to take a chance on a injured player that needs work...

They should have got Campbell, I don’t like either pick though when we have needs that need filled now. Wooton could be value, but do we really need another defensive line player, let alone one that need work and has a lengthy injury history including knee problems?

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

bruce Campbell ?

went to the raiders though….unless they traded up….still though angelo said he was not interested in campbell….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

If he can block

he can have sex with my sister.

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lmao

He will be the bud of so many jks here……………………..

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

awesome.

…and I’m sure my sister’s already had sex with him (among many, many others).

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's kind of my point though..

They are the same player, at different positions. Both are kids that are alright now, and have a lot of promise, but have alot of injury history.

There are a lot of other guys that have that kind of promise without the injury history, but if they are just loving injury cases Campbell was easily attainable, I think a 6th rounder would have been enough to move up 5 spots.

Just bad drafting, and terrible reasoning of BPA forthcoming.

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, for when we switch to 6-man fronts on the basis that an all-out pass rush makes the seconday better. Call it the 64 defense.

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on Apr 24, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh good

Wooten played OT in High school….That please some?

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

That's it

Wooten is the new LG. Got to love Chicago sports. First Zambrano, now Wooten.

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

He was

considered to be a top 15 guy by some before he tore his ACL….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Top 15 overall?like in the first round?

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes....

but he tore his ACL in his junior year but played his senior year should be back off it coming this year….guess we will see….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm getting my Wootten low down!

Well if thats the case I don’t mind this pick.

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

reminds me

of what happened to zach bowman. he was considered a top 20 talent before knee problems.

by Nih1lus on Apr 24, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody

know if there’s value in the 5th for LG?

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 9:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Think mayock and kiper

said that the OG class is not that deep….or thats what I recall anyways….after the 2nd round guys were gone it just falls off IIRC….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Depends entirely how many get picked up now.

If a lot? Not really.

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

damn mayock

lost his voice so he is doing chat instead of TV….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

The scouting reports say

Wootton is stout against the run and doesn’t have much pass rush. Angelo said yesterday he’d consider a DE, but only if they helped the pass rush, he said “we don’t need a run stopper”.

Guess he changed his mind. Wootton sounds more like a 3-4 DE to me.

I was kind of hoping for the kid from Indiana-Pa.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Apr 24, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Based on the links and plays I saw, he is both.

He has a spin move that reminds me of another DE that was taken with the 11th pick (albeit the 1st round, not the 4th). Dwight Freeney. He uses the spin move to make people run passed him.

by Higgins on Apr 24, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wootton is a good pick

only he if he gets back to 08 form. Remember he shreaded his knee in the alamo bowl that year. But i’m good with the best player available pick.

by Jhitt81 on Apr 24, 2010 10:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Hmmmmm

Could the #Bears have interest in G Alan Faneca after he is released? Reportedly will be cut Monday.

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

You know what that means?

its gonna happen….LOL….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Would make sense hes a vet and Angelo cant draft Oline
General manager Jerry Angelo said the Bears are eyeing an offensive lineman between Saturday’s fourth and seventh rounds of the NFL draft, but if they want to import a veteran, one should soon be available.

The Newark Star-Ledger reports that the New York Jets are poised to release nine-time Pro Bowl left guard Alan Faneca on Monday.

The Bears are expected to give Josh Beekman another turn at left guard with Frank Omiyale now competing with Kevin Shaffer for the starting right tackle job but history shows they’re not afraid to take a chance on a veteran offensive lineman.

Faneca became expendable when the Jets selected Vladimir Ducasse in Friday night’s second round. The Jets have been unsuccessful in their efforts to trade Faneca, who is set to earn $7.5 million this season, with more than two-thirds of that guaranteed.

link….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Either am I

but thats what Angelo does…..He will not change…..So I think this will happen….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

As a Northwestern-er

All I have to say is… WOOT!

The Rivalry, Esq. - Judging the Big 10 since 2008

by Hilary Lee on Apr 24, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Hub

is just gushing over the Wooten pick…WoW….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

It’s about time he’s happy with something the Bears did !

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares

As long as there’s any DE’s left, we’ll never draft him.

by JimmyMack on Apr 24, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

We should be happy he didn’t pull this off in the third round!

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

It’s amazing how in the matter of a couple hours, 4 months worth of excitement for the draft turns to complete disgust.

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

We don't have AB......

Izzy is still somewhat raw and old.Mark Anderson is questionable at best.He is graded better then some of the D-line picked in the early second round…….

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and he could be available in the 5th as well...

He’s got WIDELY varying draft grades, mainly because of his technique.

When his technique is on point he looks like a top 20 pick, when it’s not he looks like a UFA.

The plus side is, he only played the position for a year, so his technique is likely completely fixable. The “downside” is that some evaluators don’t take that into consideration. If we get him in the 5th, it’ll be the steal of the draft for sure.

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by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Angelo is an absolute clown

I was joking last week when I said that we’d be going after another DE with one of our top 2 picks… What a complete bozo! Maybe this guy can sit next to Gilbert and Melton this year – if he even gets to dress.

Anyway, I hope Omilyale and Co. can help Forte move up from his spot at #30 in the NFL in rushing…

by JimmyMack on Apr 24, 2010 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Mully

Bears are targeting another FS and a DB with their next picks….

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- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Typical

It better be Rob Johnson or AOA.

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping we grab AOA in the 5th

and Johnson in the 6th. I think we deserve to be a little bit greedy, am I right?

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1000000000000000000000

I would have tears of joy if that happened…..

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

we suck so bad at drafting safeties

That were gonna pick two of them this year to increase the odds? Lol. What a joke. Do the job right the first time and you won’t have to do it over and over again.

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by SackMan on Apr 24, 2010 10:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

really?

Kind of surprised with the Wooten pick. I’m trying to rationalize what the Bears were thinking. Melton or Anderson must be underachieving, Wooten was the best player available and the Bears are going after Faneca and other OL in the 5-7 rounds. Makes sense.

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by Mark Saade on Apr 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Dickerson

stated Melton might be on his way out….Has not impressed Bears brass this off season…

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by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Word from suntimes

is that Kevin Payne might be on the way out….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

If the Bears

pick up another S Payne is the odd man out according to the Times….

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- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Guess so....

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- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow that's really a shame...

Not just because I really like the guy since he’s been very kind to WCG but he’s been fun to watch for the most part. Get that bum Steltz out of town, he hasn’t done much besides special teams to help the Bears.

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've never even seen him play on special teams..

Apparently he doesn’t make too much of an impact.

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by ThorCo on Apr 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea that's my point...

I know he’s on special teams but, like you, I haven’t heard about him being a standout or anything. For whatever reason he seems to be one of “Lovie’s guys” so chances are he sticks around, even though he’s worthless.

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Over Steltz and Bullocks...the guy who has a video about how not to be a safety...

Great, I like Payne, just because Lovie tries the square peg in round hole coaching strategy doesn’t mean a player should get cut. Ughhh

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by ThorCo on Apr 24, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eh

posted like 3 or 4 for Wootten up above….couldnt find anything really on Wright other than the one hit….

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by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wootten

he blocks some kicks in his highlight videos. Hopefully a younger/better Brown

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by Mark Saade on Apr 24, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like this

of the nyg 1st rounder:

back flip contest…..

Apparently thats how he works out doing as many back flips he can in full pads….

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by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

lmao ok that video is better!

I wouldn’t be surprised if he injured himself one day doing that.

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

NFL.com doesn't even have him listed on their prospects page

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rice?

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Think he will be

seen all the draftniks drop Johnson on their boards days leading up to the draft (before I was seeing Johnson listed as a 3rd or 4th rounder)…..seeing 5th or 6th rounder now….

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- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Man he has great size...

That’s what I wanna see in the backfield, a player with a combination of size, speed, and good ball instincts.

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

we have the same unsuccessful draft pattern every year

Safeties and pass rushers who end up sucking and have to be redrafted the next year. Somebody tell donald trump to fire angelo and smith.

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by SackMan on Apr 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Damn

was hoping you post your Bears draft board thing….Always got a laugh off that…..

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by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

there goes akwasi OwusuAnsah….

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- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn that's disappointing...

I was really starting to like him and it sounds like JA and Lovie liked him too

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well it saved

Thayer and Joniak of having to say that name during Bears games…..Probably would of just called him AOA in the end….

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by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kam Chancellor

still on the board

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- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

fail!

Robert Johnson has natural abilities,and he is compared to Daron Sharper

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

10th I believe

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/tracker#dt-by-round-input:5

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

141

10th pick in the round…

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- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bears

will most likely sign a FA after the draft to play LG according to zaidman on the score….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

How about Alan Faneca? Jets just let him go.

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Apr 24, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tony Washington anybody????

That’s who we are probably going to draft…………

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Martz

Anybody wondering what Martz thinks about this draft?

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Top G's left...

Name Pos Ht Wt College Grade* Fan Pick* Watch
Capers, Selvish OT 6’4" 308 West Virginia 6.7 —
Ulatoski, Adam OT 6’5" 300 Texas 5.9 —
Washington, Tony OT 6’6" 311 Abilene Christian 5.6 —
Scott, Chris OT 6’4" 319 Tennessee 5.5 —
Calloway, Kyle OT 6’6" 323 Iowa 5.4 —
Young, Sam OT 6’8" 316 Notre Dame 4.7 —
Smith, Shelley OG 6’3" 300 Colorado State 4.4 —
Black, Ciron OT 6’4" 327 LSU 4.0 —
Wang, Ed OT 6’5" 314 Virginia Tech 3.7 —
Carter, Brandon OG 6’6" 329 Texas Tech 3.6 —
Richardson, Dace OG 6’5" 320 Iowa 3.4 —
Olsen, Eric C 6’4" 306 Notre Dame 2.9 —
Petrus, Mitch OG 6’3" 310 Arkansas 2.9 —
Pemberton, Cole OT 6’7" 315 Colorado State 2.8

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 10:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Was Petrus really graded that low?

As an Iowa alumnus I wouldnt mind seeing them take Calloway, he projects well as a RT or G in my opinion. Richardson has a history of injury but has all the tools. The kock on him is that he’s too slow, but if he can stay healthy he’s a mauler with very solid technique.

by Hawkeyes on Apr 24, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have seen Petrus

listed as a 6th or 7th rounder by some draftniks….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Like I was saying before, Petrus’s grade varies wildly from place to place because if you look at one piece of tape he is literally equal to or greater than Iupati, but then you watch another piece of tape and he looks like Omiyale looked at the beginning of the year.

It’s almost all technique issues, including properly using his base. You’ll see him ranked anywhere from a 2nd, down to 6th-7th.

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by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is Sam Young a guard?

so tall…

I do want Petrus, Capers is cool too, forgot him

by PrincetonCubs on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Alex Brown Tweets on the Bears draft

On drafting DE Wootten:

Did this surprise anyone? Every year……

On Major Wright:

the safety is a pretty damn good player. Good pick!

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Capers...

Don’t know if he’ll last ten picks, but…

Name: Selvish Capers
College: West Virginia Number: 66
Height: 6-5 Weight: 308
Position: OT Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2010
40 Time: 5.11 40 Low: 4.98 40 High: 5.24
Projected Round: 3-4 Stock: High: 2-3 Low: 4-5
Rated number 11 out of 97 OT’s 106 / 2053 TOTAL

Combine Results:
Combine Invite: Yes
Height: 6045
Weight: 308
40 Yrd Dash: 5.11
20 Yrd Dash: 2.81
10 Yrd Dash: 1.74 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 19
Vertical Jump: 30 1/2
Broad Jump: 08’10"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.68
3-Cone Drill: 7.68

Pro day Results
Dates: 03/18/10
Height: 6045
Weight: 308
40 Yrd Dash: 5.08
20 Yrd Dash: 2.94
10 Yrd Dash: 1.74 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 22
Vertical Jump: 31
Broad Jump: 08’11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.51
3-Cone Drill: 7.44

Draft Scout Snapshot: DS Rating on 9/1/09: #3 OT, #19/750 Overall, Projected Rd: 1-2
2009 Senior Bowl Invite…2008: Started all 13 games at right tackle (lefty QB Pat White’s blind side) … saw action in more than 775 plays … collected 56 knockdowns, including a season high eight knockdowns against Connecticut … part of offensive line that helped pave the way for the No. 15 rushing offense in the nation. 2007: Played in all 13 games and started six … moved from tight end to the right tackle position during the offseason … started the season as the backup and then earned the starting job against Mississippi State and has kept it ever since … saw limited action in the Fiesta Bowl, due to a sprained ankle … season-high five knockdowns at Cincinnati …Mountaineers ranked No. 3 nationally in rushing offense, tied for No. 5 for fewest sacks allowed (13), No. 9 in scoring offense and No. 15 in total offense. 2006: Saw limited time at tight end … saw action against Eastern Washington and Connecticut. 2005: Non-qualifier, did not participate in football.


link

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

eight more picks...

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

...until we draft a LB

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bye Bye Kam Chancellor!

Sorry NoItAll.

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:03 AM CDT reply actions  

I bet they're eyeing him in the 6th...

So I really hope he lasts. He looks very impressive (although it was a highlight reel) and could create some nice competition at the FS spot. Anyone know why he wasn’t graded higher? He looks as good as, if not better than, some of the FS who went earlier

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because of his competition……..

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

but I’d rather drop Steltz as a result, not Payne (if above rumors are true)

by PrincetonCubs on Apr 24, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh Chancellor

drafted by seattle…..whom the Bears play…..Hmmmm

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- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:04 AM CDT reply actions  

DT Cam Thomas is def best available

Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber.

by Moral Narcissist on Apr 24, 2010 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

I wish we picked Mike Hoomanawanui

just so we could have the team with the hardest names to pronounce in the league. Combine him with Brandon Manumanulalalala and that could be the start of something special

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"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 11:08 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

And Will Ta'ufo'ou

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

and Tim Shaw!

wait, what are we doing again?

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

wait, what are we doing again?

Pretty sure that’s on a sign hanging above the Bears war room table

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"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Apr 24, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

KAM CHANCELLOR TO SEATLE!

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

kind of late to the ballgame

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah i just woke up

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

they've had a solid draft...

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by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 24, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely

Could compete in that shitty division.

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

niners have done well, too...

The Rams still suck though.

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by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 24, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

49ers got some talent. I think it’s their division to lose at this point with Warner gone.

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's what i think...

but i’ve also said the same thing for the last 3 years – that the niners are about to take over in the NFC W.

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by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 24, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

I think the 49ers were an offensive line away from winning that division and they made some big steps toward that. It should be interesting.

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

A team drafting with an eye to fixing its problems? Too novel a concept for Jerry.

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by Spongie on Apr 24, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol.

We have to face Burnett and Kam this year……..

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Guess we'll see who made the right pick won't we...

Assuming any of them are starters

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by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

And Nate Allen with the Eagles...

Pretty much every safety that we wanted, we will see at least once this year lol

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on Apr 24, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe that's JAs plan

To wait and see how they play against the Bears, then trade all their picks for guys they should have drafted to begin with.

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was reading about him and maybe we lucked out by missing him!

Burnett is plagued by inconsistencies with a few areas of his game. Needs to play with the same high level of aggressiveness more often. Takes inconsistent angles, can over-run plays and is susceptible to double-moves and giving up big plays in coverage. Is also inconsistent run support. This doesn’t sound like a Chicago Bears Safety!

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/profiles/morgan-burnett?id=496727#tabs:tab-analysis

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

five picks left

And Denver picks now… so unless Capers is a huge reach, should be four to go!

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Perrish Cox...

I think we may have been targeting him too.

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think Capers could be a pretty good LT

I didn’t include him yesterday because I didn’t think there was a chance of him making it to us in the 4th, let alone the 5th.

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by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Biggs

Bears looking at some players:

Oklahoma State CB Perirsh Cox, Northwestern CB Sherrick McManis, West Va. OT Selvish Capers … possible picks for #Bears at 141?

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Cox just went to the Donkeys

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

cox taken.

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by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 24, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wonder if NFL teams are reading

Biggs twitter account….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Calloway, Wang, & Black

are all better than Capers. Take Petrus!

by Bear_Down on Apr 24, 2010 11:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I disagree...

At least on Black and Wang, and maybe Calloway is more of a toss up.

I like Petrus a whole lot, but Capers is good quality, and good value.

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by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Jets took "John Connor"

yes that John Connor. I’ll be back

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Seriously,

now they have Washington and White. And for only had to trade fourth rounders and give up a fifth. Wow.

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bears pick next

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

ed wang

gone to buf…

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Josh Moore, DB

Kansas St

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

who need OL help. Not us.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bears on the clock...

they take DB Josh moore Kansas ST…per biggs…

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Obscure school guy?

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Kansas St isn't obscure...

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Obscure guy period.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

I give up

Later fellas and fellettes.

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

lol grade of 2.1 on nfl.com

I don’t know how much those things mean but if they mean anything this guy it a pretty terrible pick

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 24, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Josh Moore

Is he related to D.J. Moore another CB that won’t play for the Bears

by BEARSFAN19 on Apr 24, 2010 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Really glad we are so set on our offensive line.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Josh Moore

He’s kind of a Nickleback type of guy. Fast guy good runner. Think Corey Graham

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

If only we had a Corey Graham...

or a DJ Moore, hmm….

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ill take secondary depth

though o-line help woulda been nice

by tommite622 on Apr 24, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

skjensen
Moore is 5-11, 188 pounds. Considered a Tweener, by NFL.com profile.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Per SI.com
Biography: Two-year starter who finished with 64/2/11 as a junior when he was second on the team in tackles. Led Kansas State as a sophomore with 76 tackles when he also intercepted three passes and broke up 15 more.

Positives: Physically aggressive cornerback with a solid game. Quick flipping his hips transitioning off the line with opponents, effectively reads receivers eyes than positions himself to defend the throw. Plays faster than his 40 time, runs downfield with opponents, and shows the ability to recover. Possesses a nice burst to the ball out of his breaks and has a terrific move to the throw. Aggressive run defender who sacrifices his body to make the tackle.

Negatives: Must be more consistent with his backpedal. Late reacting to the action at times.

Analysis: Moore has been a terrific performer on the field the past two seasons and is one of the most underrated cornerbacks in this draft. He ran poorly at the combine and will be downgraded accordingly, yet Moore possesses all the tools necessary to develop into a second cornerback at the next level.

Projection: 4th

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2010/draft/players/54884.html

by Bear_Down on Apr 24, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

He'll be a great fit in our D
Negatives: Must be more consistent with his backpedal. Late reacting to the action at times.

Our CB’s play 15 yards off the WR, removing any need for him to backpedal.

(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."

by ThorCo on Apr 24, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

yet they still find receivers getting behind them, weird right?!?

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has 2 negatives,Wow!

If that report is right,then we will have to wait and see,until we pass judgment.

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely terrible pick.

Terrible. Terrible. Terrible. Even if this guy is the next Revis, it’s a terrible pick for us at this point in time.

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by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

what the hell

so many guys available to help us on the OL

by PrincetonCubs on Apr 24, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Scout report from CBS

Read & React: Very quick to read runs or receiver screens, so much so that teams take advantage of that aggressiveness to suck him in on play action. Must improve his reading of routes and be more aware of double moves.

Man Coverage: Can play off his man or on the line, although he doesn’t get a hand on his man immediately. Excellent speed to turn and run with receivers, whether down the sideline or trailing over the middle. Changes direction quickly, mirrors jerk routes extremely well. Could improve his contact with receivers down the field instead of relying on recovery speed.

Zone Coverage: Typically plays off in zone with his hips open inside. Does not backpedal a lot but has the flexibility to do so. Inconsistent handing off his man to get to underneath route.

Closing/Recovery: Straight-line speed allows him to recover quickly if beaten. Good closing speed to the ball, able to knock the ball away even when a couple of yards behind his man when the quarterback starts his delivery. Finds the ball in the air. Must be more consistent in his plant and drive so receivers cannot lose him on a quick move.

Run Support: Extremely active, attacks the line of scrimmage once sniffing the run. Despite his small stature, he has the upper-body strength to punch receiver in the chest when he sees run, then come off to grab ballcarrier. Wraps up in space when in zone. Ducks his head often, but somehow gets enough of the ballcarrier to slow or stop him.

Tackling: Lacks great strength, but is one of this draft class’s more aggressive corners. Throws his body into tackles, wrapping up on the island with length and want-to. Likes to lower the shoulder, can put it on the ball to cause force fumbles. Will take incorrect angles to the ball when catches are made in front of him. Gives up on plays when another defender is in contact with a ballcarrier.

Intangibles: Strong leader in the secondary despite his youth, directs his teammates on the field. Aggressive player with physicality teams like at the position. No major character issues, although teams will ask about the academic issue that led to his suspension.

link….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

sounds like a cover-2 corner

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 24, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ohhhkkkkaaayyy

only benched 225 pounds twice…..

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Corners don't have to be strong bruh...

Fast and smart. Not everyone can be a Tillman

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

at least he's got good size...

oh, wait…

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Moore Draft Grade:

A whopping 2.1 – Not that it means much, but still…

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

WOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW

This Sucks!!!!

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Theyre drafting best available

Yahoo! says hes a good fit in the cover-2

by tommite622 on Apr 24, 2010 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

He was NOT

the best available!

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

heh?

It was a stupid pick that addressed fantasy over reality, much less need. People have every right to be upset, especially when we drafted him last year (DJ Moore) to ride the bench and had much a huge need elsewhere. Just a terrible pick.

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by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well said.

Really well said. Jerry Angelo is smarter than everyone else on the face of the planet. Has to be to make these kinds of moves year after year…

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

this guy is way dif that DJ Moore

This guy’s name is Josh

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right...

He’s also two inches taller. That “should” count for something right?

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes

and he isn’t from vandy

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

I may have been completely off base with the comparison, then… Nahhhh!

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly,

if they were set on a DB at that spot, why not go after the kid from Michigan, Donovan Warren. Much higher overall grade, bigger, etc.

I hope that one of the Iowa OL guys are still around for the next round.

by BearFan611 on Apr 24, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Really really?

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

To recap

so far we’ve drafted Kevin Payne, Michael Haynes and Corey Graham.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Apr 24, 2010 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

WRONG!

we’ve drafted Mike Brown, Julius Peppers, and Nathan Vasher

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

amen

people need to look more positively at things, instead of being so pessimistic

by tommite622 on Apr 24, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

and by Nathan Vasher

i mean the 5 picks his rookie year and the 8 picks his next year Vasher, not the “I like to trip over a lady bug” Vasher

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

you mean not

“I’m gonna give you a 15 yard cushion then miss the tackle” Nathan Vasher?

by tommite622 on Apr 24, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

because the Lovie/Angelo era has been so inspiring to date. Particularly with D-line and safety picks.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Apr 24, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think Moore is more Charles Tillman

lol

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 24, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jerry Angelo: King of the Ass Clowns!

All hail Jerry!

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

I'll drink (A LOT) to that!

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bears

beat writers saying they will sign FA O line (most likely fanaca) after the draft so not expecting any o line to be drafted today….Unless its in the 6th or 7th and that might be Jamarcus Webb…..

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Faneca is fine with me...

HE’s not super old like Pace was. And he doesn’t suck at G like Omi did

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

Hmmm

Hmmm

Nope i’ve got nothing

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

To a rookie QB

I doubt it was all Faneca. If Cutler took more sacks, Omiyale’s #s would look worse than they do.

by McRipper on Apr 24, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Plus, Omiyale conceded pressure which would chase Cutler into someone else’s pass rusher for a sack… but stats-wise that wouldn’t have been a mark against Omiyale.

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by Spongie on Apr 24, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

good!

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 24, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like the Wright and Wooton picks

But this 1 is suspect. How many DB’s do we have now?

by BEARSFAN19 on Apr 24, 2010 11:30 AM CDT reply actions  

42

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

33 of which are strong safeties.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to double-up

and go for Myron Rolle. He was a stud, he’s got character, and if he didn’t take the year off to be a Rhodes Scholar he’d be a first round pick.

I love the Major Wright pick. Great player from one of the best teams. And Rolle and Wright could both be starters in the next two years.

by ethan a on Apr 24, 2010 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

The only trouble with this post is

we need starters NOW at free safety. NFL quality safeties that is.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rolle was an All-American in 2008

and the only issue is a year off. Not because of health, but because he’s wicked smart and a quality character.

He ran a 4.54 forty. He was the number one player coming out of high school and lived up to it. He is an NFL quality safety, and he’ll be an All-Pro. The problem is the short memory of NFL scouts.

He’s better than Steltz, Payne and Manning.

by ethan a on Apr 24, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

not now...

they’ve gone DB twice now and are apparently thinking of moving Moore (the new one) to S. I’m a huge fan of drafting Rolle, but the Bears need to look somewhere else with their other picks.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 24, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why? Safety is our weakest position...

and this a defense heavy draft. Scouring the players available, there aren’t many o-lineman left. Sam Young was a quality starter at ND for four years. There are some QBs still left, and some quality WRs (Riley Cooper, two Kansas WRs).

To me, you go DB again, try to make sure you shore up the back. I don’t think trying to convert Moore to Safety, one, is a guarantee, and two, smart. Rolle could surpass whoever we have on the roster by mid-season. He’s got better talent, and the only reason he hasn’t been drafted is that NFL personnel are afraid he doesn’t love football. To me, that’s dumb. Simply because he’s a smart guy and took advantage of being a student…

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/24/herm-edwards-people-are-questioning-myron-rolles-passion/

by ethan a on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's the word on Black?

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

he doesn't play defense

and he would help fill a hole… so he’s out!

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaa

Maybe if he’s around in the 6th or 7th?

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

those spots are reserved

for WR’s who will never make the team.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought our 2-5th rounds were reserved for people who won't make the team

Bazuin, Okwo, DJ Moore, Melton, Gilbert, this years entire draft……

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everytime I see Buzuin's name...

I cry a little inside.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Apr 24, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

2nd rounder.

And Jerry Angelo keeps cashing his paychecks…

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Biggs on Moore

Josh Moore led K-State in tackles in 2008 and was 2nd last season. He has ball skills with 5 picks and 23 passes defended in that time.

Reports on Josh Moore are that he has good instincts and could contribute on special teams quickly.

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

redskins thinking of trading

jason campbell to the raiders….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Lawl

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

there goes

cam thomas…

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Idk though guys

I love the Major Payne pick at 75.

I’m also pretty big on Wooten aswell. 6’7 270 lbs. a Big fast DE with long arms who can throw OT’s aside.

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

But here's the thing

We’ve spent 99 of our last 100 picks on D-line and have yet to get it right. Sooooo we keep right on trying? On what planet does that make sense?

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

like i said earlier

i think that was a “best available” pick.
He was the number one available player on Mayocks Best available at that point n time

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

He does look good...........

But he has the same qualities as DJ Moore so Idk……

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmm

little taller, little faster, ALOT tougher than moore

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

And all of the analysts or “:experts” are saying he’s a great cover 2 corner

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

... and those negatives don't matter in the cover-2

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 24, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Generally speaking

witches are bad,

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh wait sry Im working on 3 hours of sleep here forgive me (night schedule)

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow

a real run on dubious cornerback prospects at the moment

by PrincetonCubs on Apr 24, 2010 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Dubious, an understatement.

Moore put up 2 (TWO) reps on the bar. I’m a 63 year old retired jarhead and I still can put up more than TWO! Oh and he was clocked at 4.59 for the forty. I’m pretty sure Peppers can do that with a tackle latched on to him. Dubious??? We must have drafted the guy for his intangables. Probably has a major knee problem we haven’t heard about :(

by pete banachi on Apr 24, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't need him

We’ve got Major Payne

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

And the Giants make me sob...

Like a little girl, while JA makes me want to inflict violence on furry creatures.

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Pats take Zoltan

Please find Jay Cutler some help...

by Jbasic89 on Apr 24, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

johnson and petrus gone

aw geeez. this is ridiculous, jerry.

by Nih1lus on Apr 24, 2010 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

fanaca

is officially released….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

That's just what this Bears OL needs...

Another infusion of age with Garza and Kreutz already in the interior. Who needs interior guys under the age of 30?

Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com

by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

A team that has a track record of doing a poor job drafting o-linemen.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 24, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

What record would that be?

Can you name the last OL they actually drafted other than CDub in the 5th round or better? Beekman isn’t a bad lineman, will probably make a good C as soon as Kreutz turns to dust. Before that you’re looking at the ’04 draft if I remember right.

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by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

we ignore that position far too much to have a track record.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

for the thousandth time

beekman is so good they brought in a tackle to play his spot.

by mike b on Apr 25, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Biggs, Zaidman, and Mully

say the Bears will pursue him….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

so, what you're saying is...

NOW WE CAN PURSUE WR’S!!!

Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber.

by Moral Narcissist on Apr 24, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

dont they

do that in the 6th and 7th round anyways….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

And it’s not like there are any good DTs in the NFC North who might be coming after Cutler this season!

"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
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by Spongie on Apr 24, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jets realase Fanica

Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber.

by Moral Narcissist on Apr 24, 2010 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Josh Moore better be worth his weight in Gold!Because passing on Robert Johnson might come back and bite us!

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

HMm not so sure about that

Johnson is a FS, We’ve already adressed that with Major Wright (FS, Florida)

I think the value they saw in Moore is his ability to come right out and play Special Teams

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

1.At the very least it will provide real competition at the FS spot.

2.He has things you can’t teach,like speed and instincts.

3. Because of his natural abilities,he can regain ground on the field from his mistakes.

by I love football! on Apr 24, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Bears just traded up and drafted

Bob Sapp

Bob Sapp Pictures, Images and Photos

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

No.

it’s a nightmare

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great

Now I have to look at THAT while being pissed at Jerry Angelo and his collection of ass clowns.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Apr 24, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

=P

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Undrafted FA

Looks like there are some interesting WR, RB that will end up as FA. Brandon Minor, Rashwan Jackson (FB), Ajirotutu, Seyi, WR (just for the name). Also going to be a few of th Big Hosses left at G and T.

by KyCubsFan on Apr 24, 2010 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

laconra

is saying that campbell told him that he thinks he has been traded to the raiders officially just has to be approved by the NFL….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Official

now per ESPN….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

well

Maybe we can trade our 2011 draft for Russell

by KyCubsFan on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

to play G?

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean

We do need help on the Oline and with his size and lateral movement he could be an upgrade

by KyCubsFan on Apr 24, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

but

can he jump out of a pool

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leon Washington

released by the Jets per Jason Lacanfora.

Good 3rd down pass catching back.

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

whoops nvm my bad

he got traded

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

also

his knee got pointed in the wrong direction last season

by PrincetonCubs on Apr 24, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was gross

multiple fractures in the bones around his knee when I forget who hit him helmet-to-knee…it was gross, the joint went in the wrong direction

by PrincetonCubs on Apr 24, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

sea

also got lendale white today to I believe….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Myron Lewis is way gone bruh

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

you keep getting them mixed up…

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

myron rolle?

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

must mean rolle

because Myron Lewis went #67 to the Bucs

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would be ecstatic if we drafted Rolle

He’s better (and smarter) than anyone playing safety for us right now.

by Hawkeyes on Apr 24, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

Major Wright

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Possibly, but I thought Rolle was excellent in 2008

and Wright was good in 09. Still, slightly different skillsets. Can’t we have them both?

by Hawkeyes on Apr 24, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd take both Lol

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by suckmyditka on Apr 24, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I stated this above...

both Wright and Rolle in the back by 2011, if not by mid-season this year.

by ethan a on Apr 24, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't Rolle projected as more of a strong-safety?

You mean bring him in to compete with Steltz & Co.?

by JimmyMack on Apr 24, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

once he gets in the groove

there’d be little competition. Rolle just needs to get back into the game after a year in Oxford, England.

by ethan a on Apr 24, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ja....

Lots of lag for me at this point, and I’m absolutely done with JA and co. I’ll catch up on the aftermath later tonight.

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by Jacob Hayes on Apr 24, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

trent dilfer

continues to rip on golden tate….calling golden tate a short possession receiver….

"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."

- Jerry Angelo on how he prepares for the NFL draft

by CloudyFuture on Apr 24, 2010 12:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Packers Vs. Bears

I have been a Chicago Bears fan for well over 30 yearsand have never seen the degree of silliness being exhibited by the Packers Mgt recently. The rivalry should really be limited to the fans and players. First they decline a coaching interview, and now they are pulling this sh-t with the safety. I have seen the result of this sort of thing blow up ultimately in people’s face when they pull this sort of crap. They will see when Wright picks their QB a few times when we meet. Do the Packers treat the Vikings or Lions in a similar fashion?

by Emmanuel on Apr 24, 2010 1:22 PM CDT reply actions  

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