The Chicago Bears Welcome Back Chris Harris?!
by Dane Noble on Apr 27, 2010 12:30 PM CDT
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Per Brad Biggs' Twitter account (other links coming soon), Chris Harris will re-join the Bears after a three year stint with the Panthers. Has there been a trade involving a veteran linebacker?
More details as they are announced...
UPDATE: Here's a link to Biggs' story on Chicago Breaking Sports
UPDATE 2: Per Zach Zaidman the Panthers get LB Jamar Williams.
UPDATE 3: Per a source close to the situation, Chris Harris will be making an official announcement on his Facebook page.
UPDATE 4: Apparently, the trade is not official yet. Both sides have yet come to agreeable terms. More info to come as I receive it.
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I like him as a player
But is another strong safety really needed?
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 12:36 PM CDT reply actions
That;s the part the confuses me.
But I like it!
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
If we can't get O.J this is the next best move..
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
How?
They play different positions. I’m excited that we got Harris back(I was sad to see him leave), but a FS he is not.
But a turnover machine he is
Its like having a second Tillman in the secondary
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
No disagreement here
Just saying that Harris would not be a substitute for OJ.
We drafted Major to be the FS
Now I know we have no idea how he will turn out but the guy has a chance to be pretty. There is alot of talent on this dfense with that said what ss do we have that is better than CH at the moment. None. 1. position upgraded. That is how that is the next best move. Plus they don’t have to dish out another 20 to 30 million dollar contract to get Harris signed like they would with O.J.
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
I like what you wrote first best!
Now I know we have no idea how he will turn out but the guy has a chance to be pretty.
And if he ends up pretty, he’ll no doubt get some endorsement deals in Chicago!
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
ZachZaidman
Multiple NFL sources confirm to me that S Chris Harris has been traded to the Bears from the Panthers for LB Jamar Williams
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
i can dig that
pretty fair trade, plus we trade from a position of strength for a position of weakness
by guy incognito on Apr 27, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
remember
safety was a perceived position of strength when they traded Harris…
Hopefully Urlacher and Pisa stay healthy
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Shaw time
if someone gets hurt after Roach.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
Excellent trade!
I don’t really get it, but I’m damn glad to have our starting SB safety back in the fold!
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
Just a cut and paste now that there are two threads
Glad he’s coming back… but…
But the whole thing makes me even more furious at Lovie and Jerry.
This is an admission of failure to trade him in the first place, which caused us to lose games, sign and draft numerous failed replacements, and ultimately missed out on Chris Harris’ career year (he led the NFL in forced fumbles).
Complete egomaniac idiots running this team, who think they are smarter than everyone else.
All that off my chest… glad he’s coming back. And the locker room will be very happy too, especially with Peppers here as well.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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+100
I’m still pissed about the trade to begin with. Especially after he picked off a Manning pass in the SB, and D. Manning got burned.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
he also
Got toasted on the 86 yrd td by reggie bush in the nfc championship
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
by tfrabotta on Apr 27, 2010 12:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Was that the one where Reggie did a flip in the endzone...
then the Bears shut them down the rest of the game. Ah memories….
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. " – Herm Albright
by Ditkavsworld on Apr 27, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, I was there.
A lot more players got burned on that play. Urlacher for one over ran the play, plus the CB on that side.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
uh no
Harris had him in the flat and took a bad angle and the urlacher tried to run him down. But I think he is a much better player now vs then. But I wonder why carolina wanted to let him loose. Safeties are a hot commodity.
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
by tfrabotta on Apr 27, 2010 1:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
from reading at their SBN
seems like the “people in the carolina building” were surprised he was not cut in march or some thing like that….
salary purge from the looks of it….
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually I just watched the game the other day
Harris sort of got rubbed off by the WR (think colston) and then took the the bad angle trying to go around the WR….IIRC that is….
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Still
even if that is the case it was 4 years ago….could be a different player then….defiantly brings some leadership into the secondary that was lost with Mike Brown leaving….that can be huge…..
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean really though Harris had done nothing at the time to not be traded.
For all we know JA and Lovie may have sent him there to get properly coached with all intentions of bringing him back after they did all the dirty work..
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
May never know.
Depends on who initiated the trade. I’m sure Carolina knew Bears were shopping Williams. Maybe just a little coincidence.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
LOL.
He was traded because Lovie had a man-crush on Adam “The Redskins way over-payed me” Archuletta, and traded for him to start at SS and replace Harris.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Yep
but dont forget Lovie thought archleta could play…..if he only knew…..but your correct good sir….
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
He did nothing but produce and was one of the best picks Angelo made.
He was a 6th rounder but always played with round 1 talent.
Glad to have an intimidating force back in the secondary
Major Wright
Captain Chris Harris
Leading the secondary
by Bear Lovin 21 on Apr 27, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
He wasn't producing squat when they traded him.
He was servicable. He wasn’t standing out but he wasn’t making mistakes either. The reason Lovie and Co brought in AA was because he was forcing turnovers like a mad man with Lovie the first go around. They thought the system in Washington was the cause for his decline. It wasn’t until he got he they found out it was because he really sucked.
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
by Syndor on Apr 27, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So now we have 8 safeties on the roster; we will only keep 5.
Major Wright
Danieal Manning
Craig Steltz
Al Afalava
Josh Bullocks
Kevin Payne
Chris Harris
Quentin Scott
Q Scott probably gets cut or makes his way onto the practice squad. That leaves 2 more who need to go. The last 3 seasons, the Bears have only kept 5 safeties on the roster. Who’s out?
Maybe with Wright
We can move Manning back to Nickle, where he has at least been ok.
My bets, Payne, Scott and either Bullocks or Afalava
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
and of those 8
Wright and Bullocks are FS
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
D Manning too, as a FS, he's an above average backup.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 27, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Lovie has him at SS
Unless he was switched back again… and why wouldn’t he be… more DMS
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't you read my post? : )
“He’ll be a safety,” [Lovie] Smith said. “We want to get him in one position and keep him there. He’s not going to be flipping back and forth. Strong safety is an option; free safety is still an option.”
Lovie hasn’t committed to either position yet. He’ll be a backup safety and backup nickel plus return kicks…or get traded.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 27, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
gotcha
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
10 bucks says Lovie flip flops again in a week.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Somebody say fish flops?
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. " – Herm Albright
by Ditkavsworld on Apr 28, 2010 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Bye bye Steltz.... and Scott....
Manning goes back to all-purpose DB.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Manning will stick because of his versatility.
You need to cut 1 more though.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 27, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Scott will stub a toe or something
but Steltz I think is a goner
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right on Scott, IR guy or practice squad
Steltz has go to be gone.
I see Payne & Bullocks fighting it out for the final safety spot. I think Afalava sticks.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 27, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd spring Bullocks
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Scott can make the team
he just has to beat out bullocks….even then I think he makes the PS….
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
If Scott really wanted to make the team
He would burn Bullocks youtube highlights on a disc and send one to every d coach with a note that says “Do not open till roster cuts”
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
HA
good one….
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I would guess
Steltz and Manning. Manning might have more trade value as a returner etc. Hopefully we can get something for him.
manning will be nickel
I see wright, Harris starting
and maybe some afalava
by Bear Lovin 21 on Apr 27, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
definitely Bullocks
probably Steltz. Scott on the Practice Squad. I don’t see us cutting Payne or Afalava. Neither one of them is great, but I don’t see how Lovie would think that Bullocks or Steltz is better.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
The difference is that Payne & Afalava are kind of the same guy;
and neither does much on special teams.
Bullocks for all his faults, is a true FS. A backup for sure, and he is better than the other 2 on special teams. I really would like Steltz cut and then Payne & Afalava battle it out for the last spot.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 27, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
fair point
but I can’t be faulted for liking Payne and Afalava more than Bullocks. Bullocks is just terrible. But he is a FS.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
Like that Harris is back like others said the trade was a mistake.
Still trying to figure out what we’re going to do about the starting safties.
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. " – Herm Albright
Starting Safety for a back-up LB...
I’ll take that any day
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
Jamar Williams will be a productive player for them....
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Yes it's a great trade for them.
But Nick Roach is a better back up,I will take this trade anyday of the week.
by I love football! on Apr 27, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
its a win-win
williams will do well for them, harris for us.
by guy incognito on Apr 27, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm glad to see Williams go somewhere where he can be productive
I liked him a lot but he just wasn’t going to get playing time with us.
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
wooho!
Who cares if he’s a SS he’s still better then any other safety on this team. Welcome back Chris
by frenchbears113 on Apr 27, 2010 12:57 PM CDT reply actions
As long as we're correcting mistakes...
Can we bring Rivera back too?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Apr 27, 2010 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 9 recs
rec
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
as did I
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL...
We still don’t have an “actual” defensive coordinator, you know:)
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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But we have 9 former head coaches!!!!!!
by Mike Mueller on Apr 27, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
And a boatload of #2 pencils.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Can't correct the Rivera mistake..
..until the Lovie mistake is expunged.
"Do or do not... there is no try." - Yoda
Lets look at JA's dealings
Pick Harris in the 6th round
Trade Harris for a fifth round pick that the Bears received from Carolina was used on injury prone cornerback Zackary Bowman out of Nebraska.
Trade back for him with a 4th round pick in Jamar Williams
But isn’t he a SS?
So.,..
we bought low…
sold high…
and then bought higher.
Fantastic. LOL.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Apr 27, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We definately know what we like about our players...
When they are playing on another team!
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Apr 27, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Bowman is a starter
and didn’t get hurt last season. Williams was rotting on the bench, so this is a great deal.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
Great,I don't think so, good maybe.........
If something like last year happens again, then this trade sucks, because Jamar could step in with no problem.
by I love football! on Apr 27, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
One word
Roach
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
And missed on a couple good seasons he had
Plus opened the revolving door at Safety that can only be explained as . . . Dooogh!
Now with 8 Safties - Trade?
Is there a possible St. Louis Trade looming?
The Rams did not address their need if Atogwe should walk in the draft?
How much value could our garbage have to the Rams?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
One mans trash is another mans treasure.
How else can you explain Lovie getting Archelta a few years ago.
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. " – Herm Albright
by Ditkavsworld on Apr 28, 2010 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions
true sir, very true...
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. " – Herm Albright
by Ditkavsworld on Apr 28, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Steltz and Bullocks to the Rams for Atogwe
get it done
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep those 2 safties, but they will ask for a 3rd rounder and I would give it to them......
by I love football! on Apr 27, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Throwing in Melton or Gilbert should get it done, right???
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Apr 27, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can't forget the pool jumping DVD
That way they can fall in love just like Lovie did
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
I posted last week comparing D Manning, Afalava, and Payne...now with Harris:
LINK to original post.
ProFootballFocus.com stats (For every game [they] analyze and grade every player on every play to provide you with the most in-depth statistics you can find anywhere outside the team’s film room.): LINK
Rank / Run / Rush / Cover / Penalty / Tackles / Total Plays / Plays per Tckl
Afalava: -8.4 -5.7 +1.6 -2.8 -1.5 42 834 19.9 (0 int)
Manning: -2.5 +2.4 -1.2 -2.7 -1.0 73 845 11.6 (1 int)
Payne: -7.7 -4.1 +0.3 -2.9 -1.0 36 550 15.3 (0 ints)
Harris: -3.4 -5.6 +0.6 +1.6 0.0 47 827 17.6 (3ints)
I've got a source as close to this situation,
and right now the trade has not happened. Both sides have yet to agree to proposed terms. I will continue to update as I receive info. Stay tuned!
Awwwwwwwwwww
Get everyone excited for something that has yet to come……….Kind of like my s&x life, OH BURN!
by I love football! on Apr 27, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Did yo ujust burn yourself?
I would imagine the panthers want a pick to go with J Williams and/or another SS maybe Afalava…..
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
haha Ya i burnt myself
Isn’t jAMAR WORTH A 4TH???sry caps
by I love football! on Apr 27, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Over on the Panther SBNation site
there are almost 300 comments on the subject!
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 1:27 PM CDT reply actions
Yes
but do they like it or hate it….
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't have time to read it yet!
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Nevermind I read some of it
they are not happy….
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That are pissed about it!
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL beat me to it...
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow did I miss something
why are we tradding for Harris I thought we were all set with Arucletta? Lovie?
From Cat Scratch Fever
STFU
We don’t know if it’s true or not….
If it is, then resume ranting.
WTF**, I hope this is a F**king joke
Word on the street here
is that you will receive Jamar Williams.. . . . WHO?
I come home from work and this is the news that greets me? JC better be the next coming of JC or Furnny has some MAJOR ’splaining to do.
On the upside, my buddy who is a huge Chicago fan was begging me to get Chris back, so now he owes me.
But this is still not cool.
I’d say they are not the happiest
The rebuttals seems to be
Chris Harris is not fast enough and Meeks likes speed which they have in their other guys.
After the initial “who the f**k is Williams”
People seem to like him from what has been posted stat and highlight wise
Damn this stings a bit
The thing everyone is forgetting…
I wish Hitman all the best, I really do… but when it comes to us trading players, signing them and losing them to the Bears we ALWAYS WIN… ALWAYS.
- Ricky Manning Jr: Solid in Carolina, horrible in Chicago
- Muhsin Muhammad: Outstanding in Carolina, mediocre in Chicago, back to outstanding in Carolina
- Chris Harris: Decent in Chicago, Oustanding in Carolina, ?? back in Chicago
- Jamar Williams: Decent in Chicago, ?? in Carolina
Ricky Manning Jr, and Moose helped us get to a SB
If that’s the measuring stick of a deal… then the Bears won.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Also
Moose didn’t retire after his stint with the Bears?lol
You're being very Un-Dude right now.
by IslandBoodler87 on Apr 27, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
They are pissed over there
wow they are really behind Harris. Seems like a fan favorite..some calling him the heart and sould of their defense..
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
For all the Mike Brown guys..we got another Mike Brown back!!
“we aren’t only losing a heavy hitter but a locker room leader, heart and soul (part of) of the panthers” – Cat Scratch Reader post
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
it's because...
1) he’s a good player, and
2) he does the occasional post for their site, much like Payne does here.
I guess now the PBA (Payne Bowling Attack) will take place in house.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 27, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I've seen
more than one writer comment that Payne will be gone. I hope not as I think he did a good job when he started two years ago, but they moved a rookie ahead of him last year, and then traded for someone to put ahead of the rookie. For whatever reason, the Bears have ruled out Payne as a starter and probably even as a backup.
I hope Payne does get the chance to go to a team where he can play more.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
Is'nt that just a nice way of saying
"YOU"RE FIRED"
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
LOL
Yes. Or beating a guy to the punch before he says “I quit!”.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
He should be
His scouting hasn’t been cutting it the past few drafts.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
8 safeties now, huh.
Well someone’s got to go on the chopping block. Any teams that could use a couple in return for a serviceable G?
Craig Steltz days in ...
…….. Chicago should be numbered . Hes a bad position player with good special teams skills . Bullocks and Manning could also see their time as Bears end . Scott will be either be a practice squad player or on our opening day roster . My guess is practice squad .
by MidWayMonster54 on Apr 27, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I personally
Don’t see Steltz going anywhere. I see Bullocks gettin the ax, and Manning being moved back to corner. Steltz being the backup FS behind Wright and AA being the safety-extaordinare backing up both safety positions.
Chevelle and Three Days Grace??? Fuc*ing AWESOME!!!
Some Bear beat writers
seem to think that if the Bears added another safety after drafting Wright that Payne would be the odd man out and looking at getting cut….They even mentioned that it could happen before training camp…..
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I wanted to throw Payne in there
I just think he adds amazing depth if anything were to happen to Harris. I guess Afalava does too, ugh who knows. If the trade goes through, a position of weakness before the draft just turned into one of our strengths in a matter of five days.
Chevelle and Three Days Grace??? Fuc*ing AWESOME!!!
Really? A position of strength?
A bunch of guys we had before a 3rd round draft pick and another SS. Harris is an upgrade but I do not see it as a huge one, he plays out of position and has decent at best speed.
Good to have back yes, but lets not get too far ahead of ourselves
Two starting caliber safeties
One who is a gifted athlete and one who’s a turnover machine > what we had. The amount of experience our depth at the position will have is also a bonus. Strength might be pushing it, but S isn’t the biggest weakness of the D anymore.
Chevelle and Three Days Grace??? Fuc*ing AWESOME!!!
I will agree with that
it is now DT……IMO
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I really think Steltz sucks, but that's just me.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 27, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
seconded.
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by David Taylor on Apr 27, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
is there anyone who truly disagrees
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Apr 27, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Amazing???
eek…
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
They should keep Payne
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
Manning back to corner
D M S !
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he has looked his best
In the nickel. His speed is a huge assett there and reminds me of Arenas in Saban’s defense blitzing from the same spot.
Chevelle and Three Days Grace??? Fuc*ing AWESOME!!!
possible outcomes
Afalava – in (youth, can potentially play both FS/SS, produced some last year)
Wright – in (top draftee)
Harris – in (just got him)
Bullocks – out (even w/ 500k guaranteed from the tender, I think they’ll swallow that in favor of younger guys)
Steltz – out (unless he shows he can actually play in the secondary in camp, otherwise there are lots of ST option)
Scott – bubble (pure guess: he makes the roster so long as he works hard on special teams, he looks to be a superior athlete to almost all the other guys)
Manning – bubble (STs works in his favor….candidate for a potential move back to corner. I bet DJ Moore gets axed.)
Payne – bubble (I hate to say it because I like him a lot; will depend on if there are any injuries and how Scott/Manning look in camp. He’s making 550k this year, so he’s a little more expensive that some of the other guys. They may decide they don’t need Manning as a returner and will keep Payne for in-the-box safety depth)
Despite all these options…I’m not super confident yet that the secondary is going to be markedly better next year
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 27, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
From my Liamthers post (in February)...
This could also return the glory back to Chicago’s stable, their defense. Adding in players like Julius Peppers (check), Jon Beason, Oshiomogho Atogwe, Chris Harris (check), Chris Long, James Laurinitis and Louis Delmas with players like Lance Briggs, Brian Urlacher, Tommie Harris, Charles Tillman and Al Afalava could be something very, very special.
Two down… Five to go!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
This is amazing!
I am pumped to get Chris back! Great move by the Bears. Panthers also getting a great linebacker in Jamar. We needed this.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 27, 2010 2:11 PM CDT reply actions
Per Zaidman
NFL.com reports that Chris Harris will re-work his deal as part of the Bears trade with Carolina
Chris Harris has 3 more years left under his current contract. He is due to make a little more than $2 million dollars this season.
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
See Alex Brown...
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
From Biggs twitter
RT @ChrisHarrisNFL: Oops!! I jumped the gun! Trade isn’t confirmed yet. I’ll confirm or deny on http://facebook.com/nfl.chris.harris
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
Nice
The move was just the latest in a tumultuous offseason long purge at Halas Hall that has created a negative environment in which “everybody is looking out for themselves,” according to the source. Tensions were running so high that senior director of football administration Cliff Stein and scout Jeff Shiver almost came to blows after several heated conversations relating the team’s pursuit of rookie free agents Saturday night, which a separate source downplayed as being a “heat-of-the-moment” altercation resulting from long hours.
Angelo might not be done making changes, either. Several of the team’s college scouts have expiring contracts and others could be let go in order to hire replacements that are more to Ruskell’s liking.
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
Of all the Bears' management, Cliff Stein seems to be the guy who gets things done.
by Mike Mueller on Apr 27, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
he did an excellent job,
on the Peppers contract.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 27, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I want to see Angelo fire himself
then I will feel a little better about the front office at Halas Hall
wow, that would have been fun to watch
“We need to sign that sex offender guy!”
“No we don’t! That’s a horrible idea!”
“I’ll punch you in the face!”
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 27, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
So it's not only the Bulls that has front office people fighting
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems to be a
Chicago thing I guess…..
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe VDN was in the house..
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
BradBiggs
Trade is done. NFL source says Jamar Williams headed to #Panthers. Chris Harris will be with the #Bears again.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
and more...
skjensen
Done deal, I’m now told. Jamar Williams is a Carolina Panther, and Chris Harris is a Chicago Bear — again…
I really figured they’d have to give up a future late round draft pick to go with Williams, but this is better.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 27, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya
I had seen some reports over at CSF that said the Bears had thrown in a 4th round pick to sweeten the deal…..but this is much better….
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
by CloudyFuture on Apr 27, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm working with the fine people at CSF,
to try and get Beason in a trade for Caleb Hanie and one of my wife’s homemade pecan pies… I’ll keep everyone updated on terms of the negotiation.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
Protocol!
You tweet first THEN you race to post your tweet and then reply to your post. Good Lord , Man!
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
DONE...
I had to fake a Cutler signature on one of his jerseys, but we should get be getting Beason within the next coupla days. You’re welcome.
And I think you underestimate the value of her pecan pie.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 27, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Euphenism?
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
***Would have. Would HAVE. ... please note***
there's a lot of things that I'd do for the bettermant of the team...
that is not one of them.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 28, 2010 5:34 AM CDT up reply actions
throw in Gilbert and video of his pool jumping
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Apr 27, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
That deal is done.
But with Gilbert, the pool jumping video and I heard someone say something about a batch of cookies… I’d say that’s at least a starting offer for Steve Smith, no?
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 27, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes!
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
by BearNecessities on Apr 27, 2010 2:55 PM CDT reply actions
WTF! How can the Bears trade a guy that had 20 sacks in one game!!
Williams had some decent moments last year, recording 20 sacks in a game he started for Lance Briggs. He was a restricted free agent, which is one reason the Bears were willing to move him.
Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair!
- Jerry Angelo on his drafting process
That guy is awesome
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 27, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
The legend that is the 20 SACK game
by All bears all the time on Apr 27, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe we get a trade going for Kahlil Bell,
because of his opening 72-yard run as a Bear.
That said, Williams has a ton of upside and could turn out to be a very good player for the Panthers for years to come. He’s been learning the position behind some very good players, imo.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 27, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe for Kahlil
If we tell tell them that it was 72 TDs on his first run
by All bears all the time on Apr 27, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
That's seriously funny
since every post was about the so-called 20 sack performance.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
You guys think this would have happened if Manning wouldn't have been trying to squeeze out a new contract?
I bet his ass wishes he would have signed that tender now.
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
Danieal Manning on #Bears trade for Chris Harris: “I just play football.” Our guy @vxmcclure23 with details. http://bit.ly/9sJXqY
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
i find it kind of funny
how all the panthers fans are up in arms. quite similar to us when chris harris was traded away from us.
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