The Bears Den: April 29, 2010
...where we wonder if we are finally stable at the Safety positions.
Brad Biggs has some interesting insight on the Harris/ Payne trades.
Bears players talk about how it feels to have Harris back on the team.
A good look at what went on behind the scenes during and after the draft.
Dan Pompei opens up his mailbag and answers readers' questions.
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Tim Ruskell speaking the same football-language as Jerry Angelo.
Lance Briggs thinks that with Harris, the Bears can contend for the title.
Dez Clark plans to have a prominant role in 2010.
Todd McShay releases his 2011 Mock Draft, and has Chicago picking at #10.
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Bears Pick #10
and select a . . . (no I will not Spoil it) but it is an Angelo pick, that’s for sure
Yeesh, 2011 mock draft, seriously...
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. " – Herm Albright
by Ditkavsworld on Apr 29, 2010 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually
When has JA drafted a LB in the first round? I don’t believe he has, and usually does his work from rounds 3-5.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
He has the Bears picking #10 based on the current power rankings from his ESPN peers.
That’s all…
He’s not predicting W-L records.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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If the Bears were to pick at 10 next year
JA won’t be making the pick, or at the least he won’t be making the pick for a Lovie coached team.
"I was interviewing George Halas and I asked him who is the greatest running back you ever saw. And he said, 'That would be Red Grange.' And I asked him if Grange was playing today, how many yards do you think he'd gain. And he said, 'About 750, maybe 800 yards.' And I said, 'Well, 800 yards is just okay.' He sat up in his chair and he said, 'Son, you must remember one thing. Red Grange is 75 years old.' - Chris Berman
by Sam Householder on Apr 29, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
+1000
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
ROFL
Quote for truth buddy, Quote for truth. Or at least we hope it is.
by Chitownproduct on Apr 30, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
One small problem McLame
Bears will be picking #32… which means we’ll be trading out of round 1.
"That's racist."
by BearNecessities on Apr 29, 2010 8:11 AM CDT reply actions
Clark is a pro's pro
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 29, 2010 8:55 AM CDT reply actions
Lester A . Wiltfong Jr.
is also a pro’s pro.
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves
Writer at windycitygridiron.com -/-I http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
wow.
I blush!
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 29, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
What a joke McShay is.
A 2011 mock? Really?
And the Lions will only pick 2 spots ahead of the Bears?
Really?
Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda
In all fairness
Mel did one the day before..gotta keep up
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
I knew this trade was going to create huge smiles in the locker room
That may be the most important intangible of getting Harris back… the rest of the defense missed him so much.
Thanks a lot for wanting to replace him in the first place Lovie:(
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Let it go sack..
let’s just be happy we got him back…my new glass half full viewpoint.
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
Confident Briggs
About the re-acquisition of Harris. Kind of weird, but he was better against the pass than the run. I hope he can improve and be a good defender in the box.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
And we replaced him with a guy (AA)
Who was supposed to be a LB-type against the run. It was a huge drop-off in performance in both areas: coverage and run support.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Harris is second to Peanut in FF in the NFL
"That's racist."
by BearNecessities on Apr 29, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Now... the bad.
If you’re gonna play the blame game, and fire everyone but yourself. Don’t bring in your buddy Tim Ruskell to replace them…. his draft record sucks just as much as yours does.
Has anyone looked at Seattle’s drafts? How do you think they’ve gone from SB contenders to chumps?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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my thought...
is that Jerry waited to hire Ruskell until after FA and the draft so that if everything turned out for the good, he could take the credit, should they succeed.
> If the decisions are a bust and the team fails, he’s likely out anyhow.
> If he makes the decisions and they succeed, he can take the credit (extension, anyone?).
> If he brings in Ruskell and they succeed, who gets the credit?
So, there’s no real lose for him this way. It’s all speculation, I know, but it makes sense to me.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 29, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I just looked over Seattle's drafts under Ruskell
Here’s the link if anyone is interested (2005-09 are Ruskell’s drafts) They do look very similar to Angelo’s: Lots and lots of D-Linemen, few early round OL. Ruskell’s best draft looks t be ’06 when he got Jennings, Sims and Tapp but now two of those guys are starting for other teams (that could be more of the regime change than their talent though). But he definitely is conservative, taking the safer positions early such as LB, CB, DT, DE and FB while waiting to take the hit/miss positions like RB and WR until later.
"I was interviewing George Halas and I asked him who is the greatest running back you ever saw. And he said, 'That would be Red Grange.' And I asked him if Grange was playing today, how many yards do you think he'd gain. And he said, 'About 750, maybe 800 yards.' And I said, 'Well, 800 yards is just okay.' He sat up in his chair and he said, 'Son, you must remember one thing. Red Grange is 75 years old.' - Chris Berman
by Sam Householder on Apr 29, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
exactly
he was a disaster over there. I guess we wouldn’t want someone to look better than JA..
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
What happened to your new glass half full viewpoint?
For the record, I agree with your statement, though.
and I used to read alot on the seattle times hawks blog over there
and it is mainly their opinion, they ran him out of town for tearing down a SB team that holgren built.
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
Not specifically
related to this post in particular but I just wanted to say I can’t wait to get down to Bourbonnais this year and see all the new, and old-but-new-again, players. Only made it down once last year but I think I’ll try to 2 or 3 times this year. Got a good feeling, yannow?
Bears offseason schedule
Does anyone have any idea what the offseason schedule looks like? Or a site I can find that info? I know the Rookie Minicamp starts tomorrow. I’m just wondering when training camp starts.
by boondock_saint812 on Apr 29, 2010 9:34 AM CDT reply actions
Wright to wear #27
Other rookie numbers:1 5 LeFevour, 31 Moore, 73 Webb and 98 for Corey Wootton.
by boondock_saint812 on Apr 29, 2010 9:48 AM CDT reply actions
sounds like a pro bowl number to me
"That's racist."
by BearNecessities on Apr 29, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Steve "the assassin" Atwater
a Chicago native, who played free safety…wore #27… and if I recall, he wasn’t too shabby
"That's racist."
by BearNecessities on Apr 29, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm...
I know it’s early, but having the “Assassin” and the “Hitman” in the same secondary.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 29, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
That's all I'm saying
just wanted to plant the seed
"That's racist."
by BearNecessities on Apr 29, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
whewww..
I thought LeFevour was going all Chad Johnson on us trying to go all “Uno-Cinco” on us…that’s pretty ballsy for a rookie :-)
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Apr 29, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I love it!
Steal some of Tebow’s thunder when he outperforms him in their careers.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
let's hope thats not the case
becuase our Cutler experiment would then be a disaster..unless you meant in the preseason!
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
I meant
that he would probably do it with another team, or possibly perform like Tom Brady in relief of Bledsoe….and the rest is history!
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
Knox wears 13
and his rookie season was anything but unlucky.
"I was interviewing George Halas and I asked him who is the greatest running back you ever saw. And he said, 'That would be Red Grange.' And I asked him if Grange was playing today, how many yards do you think he'd gain. And he said, 'About 750, maybe 800 yards.' And I said, 'Well, 800 yards is just okay.' He sat up in his chair and he said, 'Son, you must remember one thing. Red Grange is 75 years old.' - Chris Berman
by Sam Householder on Apr 29, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Bears looking at veteran receiver...
by boondock_saint812 on Apr 29, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions
&^%(
not Furrey again… this came up last year, and the year before I believe
"That's racist."
by BearNecessities on Apr 29, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
He knows the Martz system
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 29, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
This isn't as bad as calls for Holt.
My question is, can Furrey still perform? If so, and if he knows the system well, it could be good – getting a capable receiver who has experience with Martz and maybe who can pass some of that knowledge along during the season. This year is gonna be a little wacky I think, not knowing if Martz/Lovie will be around for more than one year but installing a complex passing attack anyways.
Plus, the Bears get another safety!
awesomely creepy.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
That is awesone!
I read that earlier, why couldn’t we have got him as our coach??
" We get off the bus running! What do you mean we are a passing team? you don't agree with how I do things? You're fired!"
- Lovie Smith-
we were too busy getting off the bus running
"That's racist."
by BearNecessities on Apr 29, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
we were too busy watching adult videos
Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda
by suckmyditka on Apr 29, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
as I said on the other thread,
he still compared it to watching “adult films”. That’s a tad creepy.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 29, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
And how is this guy not a Chicago Bear?
He seems perfect – LINK >>
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
But Can he do it comming out of a pool?
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Apr 29, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
And with the [insert #] pick of the 1st round, 2011 Draft. . .
The Bears trade the pick for Joe Webb
WTFurrey?
The Bears are like a dog with a bone about bringing in a “veteran” receiver. To bring Furrey in and take catches from any receiver already on the roster makes no sense. Last season was the break-in period for Cutler and the wide-outs. With that out of the way, the current WRs and Jay should be a little more cohesive and ready to put up the numbers we expected when we brought him in.
Yeah seriously
I’d much rather have Holt than some furrey character.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
someone asked what the OTA/Mini camp dates were
CHICAGO OTA June 2-3, June 7-10, June 14-17, June 21-24
Minicamp April 30-May 2 (rookies), May 21-23
"That's racist."
by BearNecessities on Apr 29, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions
Ditkavsworld
this quote is for you
Patrick Mannelly is so accurate as a long-snapper that he could probably turn the lights off in a room by snapping a football through his legs and flipping the switch 15 yards away.
courtesy of cb.com
"That's racist."
by BearNecessities on Apr 29, 2010 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
BradBiggs
Once again, #Bears have a full house at defensive end. Could Israel Idonije eventually slide inside? http://bit.ly/bqCQ6t
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
" The Rams are looking to plan face-to-face meetings with the agent for safety O.J. Atogwe in May. Atogwe can walk as a free agent in June without compensation, and the Rams are going to make an attempt to retain him before that point. Not sure they can pull it off, but it’s certainly worth a shot
"That's racist."
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