The Bears Den: April 7, 2010
by Dane Noble on Apr 7, 2010 7:16 AM CDT
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...where we still think that shoring up our OL is most important.
Photo gallery of nine active Bears who have been to the Pro Bowl. Any predictions on who will make it this year?
Tim Shaw was a beast last season, but still has a hunger for more. Shaw might be my favorite player.
Izzy Idonije accepts Ed Block Courage Award. What a difference he is making in kids' lives.
Make sure you check out USA Today's team report... always a great job!
Did you know WCG is on Twitter? Keeping you in the loop since 2009...
Garrett Wolfe should be ready to rock and roll in about four weeks.
Stars seem to be aligning for trading up into the second round for a safety.
Kyle Orton appreciative of McDaniels' vote of confidence; with pic of what appreciative might look like.
John "Moon" Mullin discusses Dez Clark, former Martz QBs, and a former Bears DE who won't be out of work long.
The NBA "All-Ugly" Team. I lol'd.
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Just NFL news/discussion…
any thoughts on the interest hayesworth will generate(no i dont want him on the Bears) ??
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
Sean Jenson
retweeted that the Lions and Haynesworth had mutual interest. I also saw somewhere that the Lions were also thinking about Alex Brown. Don’t know how legit either of the two scenarios are, but it could be interesting to monitor.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
Haynesworth was just paid $21 Mil on 4/1
and $32 Mil last year. Doesn’t look like he’s going anywhere.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Also, anyone else having page issues? the fanposts aren’t on the side, way down at the bottom
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
I am too
But just on the homepage. It’s fine when I’m viewing articles.
by boondock_saint812 on Apr 7, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions
same
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
by BearNecessities on Apr 7, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Same here
But same as Boondock, its fine when i’m in an article. It should be noted that this only seems to be happening on this blog not any of the others. Was just on Mile High Report with no problems.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Thats because this site is the busiest!
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh fun
Guess I need to spend more time here then at other teams blogs.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
We're also the most bestest too!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 7, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
of course...
we also have nice hair!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 7, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Man
Is there anything this site can’t do? Besides make a unanimous decision.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Yes,
I mean no. Wait, yes… I don’t know.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
We can't cheer for the Packers...
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Apr 7, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, we have...
From WCG’s very own suckmyditka on this page:
i dont mind the packers and i was rooting for them in the playoffs
Be careful with that quote, it’s a classic.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
oh my god
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
by BearNecessities on Apr 7, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
You really don't think...
that you’re ever gonna live that down, do you? ;)
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
Gah i guess not
i was just trying to be nice because shortly before that i got a warning from Dane Lol
Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda
that's going to a serious length
to be nice. i mean if a packers fan was stranded on a road in Illinois during the season, and it was freezing and snowing… I probably would swerve into a puddle to splash them
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
by BearNecessities on Apr 8, 2010 3:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Trading up for Nate Allen would be a sweet move
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 8:47 AM CDT reply actions
Les
I wrote somewhere about the possibility of Nate Allen going in the first, or lower than we’re able to trade for…do you forsee us being able to work a deal with the Rams, for the 1st pick in the second round?
or what happens if we trade up and he’s gone…or do you think the Bears won’t finalize the deal until the end of the 1st round…cuz i’m starting to think Allen might go anywhere from 24-28
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
by BearNecessities on Apr 7, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I would love Allen
But if we miss on him it isnt the end of the world. Burnett or Wright should both still be around in the late 2nd/ early 3rd
Allen might last til the 2nd round
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder… It all depends on how teams have their boards set up. I don’t see the Bears trading up to the 1st round, but they do have pieces to trade up to the 2nd if Allen lasts. And the only way they trade up is if a deal is worked out for a team to draft Allen for the Bears, then the deal would be official.
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 9:14 AM CDT reply actions
reply fail!
that was for you BearNecessities
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
gotcha, thanks
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
by BearNecessities on Apr 7, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Hope so
But there are a lot of good QB’s in the NFC now.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
The North itself is loaded.
Cutler…
Rodgers…
Stafford, if his development continues…
Fav— Jacks— Wait, never mind here.
by Steven Schweickert on Apr 7, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Just from last seasons performance
I see Rodgers and Brees are locks, the last one could be Manning, Romo, McNabb or Cutler. But thats just from last season, so who knows how everyone will do.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Agreed.
I was just looking at the North.
by Steven Schweickert on Apr 7, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right
Let’s pick the Pro-bowl QBs 5 months in advance.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
pshh
i’m thinking about picking next years
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
by BearNecessities on Apr 8, 2010 3:18 AM CDT up reply actions
it'll be Marc Bulger
for the Vikes, since granpappy Favre will be busy
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
by BearNecessities on Apr 7, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
possible moves
This Shaw kid can play. May allow the Bears to trade williams, roach , maybe hunter, to move up. Gotta sign pisa though. Allen would be a nice addition. Tough, fast and rangy.
by Bob Manganiello on Apr 7, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions
Shaw certainly can play...special teams
While we do have the depth to trade, I don’t think they will do so in hopes of getting Shaw time on D
Ya.
Roach is worth a 2nd round,so I don’t think we would have to trade away that much anyways….
by I love football! on Apr 7, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Their 3rd round plus Roach
won’t be enough to get into the 2nd round.
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
not even close
Roach is only viewed as valuable to the Bears
Chuck Norris once met Dick Butkus and had a very odd feeling come over him. Chuck later realized it was fear
by BearNecessities on Apr 7, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
If we trade up to grab a safety, Imma be pissed
If we trade up, it should be for a guard, who might have a bigger positive impact as a rookie.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 7, 2010 10:36 AM CDT reply actions
We need a guard.
Lets face it though this might be the strongest Safety draft within the past what 10 years?It might be worth moving up then drafting a guard,then draft another safety.Like Robert Johnson.
by I love football! on Apr 7, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
This year a rookie FS would get aclimated to the NFL
quicker than a rookie guard. The FS class is a deep one, and if they move up to the 2nd round that FS should be able to start from day 1.
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I completely agree we should move up to Draft a FS. I think we should go (FS G FS G)I know that will never happen but lets think about this idea for a second.We don’t have a true FS on this team.So why not just draft 2 or even 3 FS and just start the position fresh.Obviously if we moved up we would expect him to start opening day.Lets be honest here JA draft choices on the first day are not great at all,and I’m being nice.With talent like this I say we should move up into the first day and risk it with Jerry Angelo’s pick I mean Nate Allen looks pretty good.
by I love football! on Apr 7, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
2 or 3.
We don’t have a true FS,with a draft like this I wouldnt mind us taking 2 or 3.
by I love football! on Apr 7, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
just a thought
Do you think the powers above ja. and lovie said , don"t touch next years draft picks?
by Bob Manganiello on Apr 7, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I would not mind
FS, G, FS, G… as long as one of the guards drafted can swing to RT or C
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
with roster space limited
You want backups that are versatile… That’s why Beekman has value to the Bears because he is a G and a C
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
?????
Who’s seen him play center? Not since college, anyways. So what was below average at both based off of?
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Apr 8, 2010 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
pre season
He’s not the answer for when ever Kreutz retires at center.
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 8, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Every team
I mean every team has versatile linemen on their roster, especially as backups. Just look at the Packers roster.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
The FS is deep indeed, which is why it makes no sense to move up the boards to draft one.
then again, some will say that the influx of safeties in this years draft is an anomaly, given that a few came out too late/early. Still, if it’s a matter of depth, we are stockpiled at safety, but still thin at Guard.
that defense will be the same as it was last year, but the offensive scheme has changed. So if we’re moving up to grab better talent, I’d rather grab talent on the side of the ball with a new scheme and better coaching.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Apr 7, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Good point
But getting a starter in the second round is more likely at safety rather than at guard, and if Nate Allen could be had, he could be the FS for the next 10 years. That kid looks the part.
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
The USA TODAY Write up
After reading that, I feel more now than ever that releasing Brown was a huge mistake.
That USA Today is some good reading
—There has been talk that tight end Greg Olsen’s days as the Bears’ starter are limited because of the nature of Mike Martz’s offense. But head coach Lovie Smith indicated recently that Olsen will remain a major player in the offense, but he will have to improve his blocking.
“He’s faster than most tight ends out there,” Smith said of Olsen. “He can block the way most other tight ends can, but in the passing game he is a step ahead. He can be successful in this offense — not can, will. He will be successful in this offense. He’s a competitor. He’s going to find a way. His role has increased as far as us going to him every year. I don’t see that changing.”
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I wonder how much of this (if any) is smoke and mirrors, though.
It’s possible it’s all being put out there to increase his trade value.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Apr 7, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s a very good point Smudgers…….
by I love football! on Apr 7, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
and possibly the reason why Lovie ate dinner with Allen, the FS from USF.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
yes
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I think they have moved on for the time being
They may revisit a deal at a later date though, but I really don’t see it happening now. The timing seems wrong.
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Timing.
Funny thing as the same thing happened with the Sox and Damon. We went out and got Pierre thinking Damon was out of our price range and wouldn’t be available that late in the offseason, and then low and behold he was and took significantly less $.
Timing is one of the most aggravating factors in acquisitions. So Atogwe is on the hook until what was it, July 1st? Then he can walk after that? Is there anything the Bears can do up until or on draft day(s) to get him before that date?
haha
I was happy with the Sox missing out on Damon… I’m a Tigers fan!
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
hehe cubs fan and a avid Tigers fan.So I can relate to that feeling……
by I love football! on Apr 7, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs are my fav National League team
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here.....
Avid Cubs fan and Avid Tigers fan. So the Sox missing out on Damon was awesome!
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Apr 7, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
wow
More Tiger fans than I thought
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm surprised
Both Tiger’s fans read the same football blog. Weird.
lol
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 7, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Stop exaggerating.....
there’s at least 14 of us! :p
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Apr 8, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions
anyways
who was upset with Duke winning the national championship? I was I was!
I go to UNC. i’m allowed to be grumpy at them haha.
i think everyone in america
except duke/duke alum/or hardcore duke fans. were upset Butler didn’t win. American tends to hate the powerhouse and root for the underdog.
For example i feel that most of America was rooting for the Saints as opposed to the Colts
Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda
except when it's the Bears
people hate the Bears, and the Cubs… there’s a post over at BCB about the cubs… but all the people i know last year, if i went with their predictions…we’d have gone 0-16 for any number of reasons.
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by BearNecessities on Apr 8, 2010 3:19 AM CDT up reply actions
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