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With the recent news of Alex Brown being cut by the organization (and then subsequently picked up by the Saints), there has been a lot of outcry stating that the Bears are foolish to have cut him, and the team is doomed and there's no way that Idonije and Anderson will ever be able to fill the void he leaves.

You know what? People may be right. Maybe he has that intangible quality that was holding the defense together. I don't think so, though, and I'm here to take a bit of a devil's advocate position here.

The Chicago Bears will be perfectly fine without Alex Brown.

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Let me preface this, as I said, I like Alex Brown. I've loved watching him since he was brought in, and thought he performed admirably, solidly, and with nothing but class during his tenure in Chicago. I'm thrilled he was able to get a good deal down in New Orleans, and I hope that we get the chance to watch him play the Bears this year. (Yes, in the playoffs. There's something about Bears-Saints playoff games that's fun. Maybe it's because the Bears have won them recently.)

That said...it's still just a matter of business.

Alex Brown's performance simply wasn't at a level that commanded the salary he was going to make. Many have been saying (for a while, and for good reason) that Nathan Vasher wasn't earning his keep, because his inability to get to the field and perform just didn't match his contract.  While I'm not saying that Brown has any of those kinds of problems, it's the general idea. The performance received doesn't match the cash paid out.

Look at Ogunleye. He had similar numbers to Brown, though not quite as high in total tackles. (I believe he did, however have .5 more sacks and a forced fumble.) No one is suggesting that the Bears are worse off without his production, or that 'Wale should've been making nearly  five million dollars per year.

I've seen many a comment that suggests that "It's an uncapped year, why wouldn't you just pay it?" The fact that it's an uncapped year is all well and good, but still, you don't spend money just because you have it. As fans, we can often have a hard time separating the fact that a team is worth a bajillion dollars from the fact that they're also run as businesses, and aren't always going to be willing to bleed money because a guy's got character and the fans like him.

The team still has pressing needs, and that kind of money should allow them to better address those concerns.

They'll get similar production from Idonije and Anderson. They're looking for solid, but average numbers here, and there's no reason to think they can't get them. While I think we may all agree that Anderson might never be an every down defensive end, it doesn't appear they intend to repeat that mistake.

You can't, though, be too mad at the team for getting the same value for less money, especially when you want them to spend to get other players who may be more important to the scheme.

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Alex Brown was a solid player and a class act

But the 5 mil should be reallocated to a certain FS whose name starts with an O and ends with an e and has J Atogw in the middle.

by DaHamsta on Apr 8, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

The 5 mil that they had allocated

Plus the 2.9 they saved after cutting Vasher. How much did someone say it was gonna take to sign Atogwe – about $7 mil/year?

by JimmyMack on Apr 9, 2010 5:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do we need anymore overpayed players?

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 9, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably not

But Jerry and his buddy Lovie could be gone next year if they don’t pull out all of the stops now, in free agency. After burning their first 2 draft picks – they don’t have a lot of options left.

by JimmyMack on Apr 9, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

as most people criticizing the move have said

it’s more understandable if it was done with another move in mind, an Atogwe for example. If it wasn’t, it seems like a costcutting move that does a lot of damage to the D-line depth.

Would also take issue with the statement about getting same value for less money—again, you’re not taking into account the loss of production from the bench. Melton et al are not going to automatically become what Idonije and Anderson were, which were valuable role players.

by PrincetonCubs on Apr 8, 2010 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't need no stinking stats!

Based on what I’ve seen from Izzy, I think he’ll be able to play end quite well.

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 8, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe we need a new thread on the subject of ABrown

each and every week until the season begins, then we up it to two threads/week.

“As for the notion that we’ve cut him for nothing if the money doesn’t go for another player is just ludacris . " Ludacris? Good rapper, but not much of a pass rusher.

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by lookingdeadred on Apr 8, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too small

wouldn’t be able to stand up to the tackles.

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by Kev H on Apr 8, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

but he has a good motor

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Apr 9, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m beginning to think there are people out there who have never seen the incredibly obscure word “ludicrous” in print.

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by Spongie on Apr 8, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

/sigh

it’s more than just stats. I’m not saying that he was worth the $5m per, he wasn’t. But those stats do not tell the whole story. We can only hope that Izzy and MA can produce in the run game, read screens and drop off and help in coverage the way Brown did when called upon.

That said, I too think we’ll be fine.

We cut him to save 10.5 million that will not count aginest next years cap .

And only part of that money would count against next years cap, if a new CBA with a cap is agreed upon, that is.

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by David Taylor on Apr 8, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

you did not address the issue

of replacing the production from the bench. Or the issue of using the money elsewhere, which it doesn’t appear we’re going to do. Or the issue of part-time players’ stats not staying at the same level when they move into a full time role.
Once again, I understand I fighting against the party line on this, so I don’t really care if everyone gangs up on me, but you’re pointing out things that don’t actually address the relevant points those in opposition are bringing up. Yes, II and MA had equivalent stats coming off the bench. But can they do the same full-time? And who is going to replace them off the bench? Completely unproven players.

by PrincetonCubs on Apr 10, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

will add

that I didn’t mean to restart the debate, just make a couple brief points in response to Kev H. I don’t think we need to rehash this anymore than you do.

by PrincetonCubs on Apr 10, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think many people are saying we're doomed because we cut Alex Brown...

I think most of us feel that we’re doomed because we did NOT cut Lovie.

by BearFan611 on Apr 8, 2010 3:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Ironically

It would have been just as costly to cut Lovie as it was to cut Brown (both had about the same contract values).

by JimmyMack on Apr 10, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

You forgot
The fact that it’s an uncapped year is all well and good, but still, you don’t spend money just because you have it.

to mention that the Bears are in the top-5 in payroll. It’s not as if they don’t spend, but how they spend.

The stats or numbers say MA and II will be able to duplicate Brown’s production, which by all purposes were very mediocre at best.

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by propheteer on Apr 8, 2010 3:24 PM CDT reply actions  

No one is complaining about losing Ogunleye

BECAUSE YOU’RE PAYING PEPPERS 92 MILLION TO PLAY HIS POSITION! Jesus.

by Donald Driver on Apr 8, 2010 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

and nobody F's with tha Jesus!

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by BearNecessities on Apr 8, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Brown was a steal in the draft

And was very solid, just not worth 5 mil, just hope we use the money for something useful

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 8, 2010 3:59 PM CDT reply actions  

No idea

I think they are just being stingy since I haven’t seen them make any moves with the money, but I guess we’ll see.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 8, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

They just signed 3 of the biggest FAs on the market, I don’t think they’re being stingy with the money. That 5 mil they saved might be what they use towards Peppers. I wouldn’t expect them to turn around on spend that 5 mil on someone else considering they might have already spent it.

by Edicus2288i on Apr 8, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

So I suppose

They cut Brown to make up for their poor spending policies.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 8, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sharper

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 8, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good

Chevelle and Three Days Grace??? Fuc*ing AWESOME!!!

by Acreman20 on Apr 9, 2010 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well he visited Hallas Hall around the time we signed JP

soooo….who knows what that meant

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 9, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

ahhh yeah

cuz the Bears would waste money on a person to fly in if they weren’t interested in signing…yes cuz that’s usually how it works. ok. makes complete sense

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 9, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying that he was driving his price up

I’m sure the Bears were interested. I think that there are some better fits at safeties for them out there anyways.

by Donald Driver on Apr 9, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's soft

What? Wrong thread?

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 8, 2010 4:06 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

that's racist!

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Apr 8, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

No sir, you're in the wrong thread aisle

you perhaps were looking for ones about Olsen, Greg or perhaps an eagles blog about Mcnabb, Donovan

by tommite622 on Apr 8, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

He slept with his sister, ftw?!?

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by David Taylor on Apr 8, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahahahahahahahaa

he’s soft and slept with his sister. He slept with his sister because he was soft?

Do or do not there is not try-Master Yoda

by suckmyditka on Apr 8, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

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