Releasing Alex Brown is the Worst Move the Bears Had to Make.
In what will probably be one of the last mentions of Alex Brown here or anywhere among Bears fandom, at least until there is an injury of some kind at the position or someone doesn't play up to snuff. I'm going to make the assertion that not signing Brown to a similar two-year deal was a terrible move for the Bears organization, but one that had to be made. Before the sirens sound and the keyboards start cracking, take a step back from your positions and just allow one key fact to sink in before we look at it a bit closer.
Not all situations are the same.
What do I mean by that? Not all situations are the same? What I mean is that even stepping back from what defensive schemes we run or how good a player Brown is, or isn't, the Bears had a fundamentally different need from Brown, than what the Saints did. Put in a different way, our six million dollars over two-years was not going to be the same six million dollars the Saints were offering, at least in terms of value to Brown. Here is why...
Saints
- Just released their only starting caliber LE basically leaving a massive void on their defensive line one way or another.
- May target a defensive end in the draft even after signing Brown, but have essentially given him the ability to compete for a starting job.
- Is a team with a consistently undervalued defense, with much more focus being applied to the offensive successes or woes.
Bears
- Released their starting LE and began working under the assumption that there would be a platoon between Mark Anderson, and Israel Idonije
- Will not be targeting a defensive end at all most likely, and if so will be in the late rounds.
- Is a team with a consistently over-hyped defense, which much more focus being applied to defensive successes or woes, outside the QB position.
So I can hear the chorus of people proclaiming that they don't see that much of a difference between the two, and see no reason why Alex Brown couldn't be signed for the six million dollars. That once again comes down to slight differences in situations between the Saints and the Bears.
Mark Anderson is about 26, and if he's ever going to develop needs to see the field more. He may never be anything more than a third down guy, but until that's officially stamped on his forehead he has to see more playing time. Israel Idonije is a player who has done nothing but contribute in any way he possibly could since joining the Bears. If it was asked of him, it was done, everything from gaining weight, to losing weight, changes of positions, to being a force on ST. What do they have to do with each other? The Bears think they can get a reasonable approximation of Brown out of Idonije getting someone who has been proven to be a play maker at other positions some more field time, while at the same time placing someone with less of a name relieving any downward pressure on Anderson's playing time.
The reason name value matters at a position is that no matter how much a player has declined, or is just plain terrible as long as they have a big name there is pressure for them to be on the field. You've seen this all over the league for years and years, most glaringly last year with Orlando Pace being allowed to be terrible at LT for a prolonged period of time almost entirely due to his name value. Would AB be terrible at LE? I don't think so, and neither do the Saints, or the Bears staff as they expressed in the media, however in their mind keeping Alex Brown would have meant giving Alex Brown the majority of the snaps, regardless of their desire to see what they have in Anderson.
So, now we have a completely theory-crafted reasoning behind why the Bears wouldn't sign Alex Brown for 6 Million, but why stop half way when we're so close to having one from the other side as well. Alex Brown has been a starter for quite some time in the league, ignoring the first Mark Anderson incident. It's safe to say that not only does Alex Brown think he has something left in the tank, but that he actually does have something left in the tank. It may not be the same high octane rocket fuel that Peppers has, but it's something. It's completely within reason that Alex Brown would be willing to take less money for the opportunity to start, something that he definitely has in New Orleans. It's quite possible that Brown had less of a problem with a pay cut, then he did with being essentially the third man on a rotation. Whereas even if he doesn't win the starters job in NO over whoever they draft, he will still probably be the primary back up for both sides, and find himself in a mentor role ready to be called upon at a moments notice.
So folks, at the end of the day I'm firmly in the camp that would have loved to have Alex Brown as the best depth guy in the league, but that simply wasn't a decision the Bears or Alex Brown could realistically make for completely different reasons, which means he'll go back to being an average starter for someone else instead of fantastic depth with us. That's something that both Alex Brown and the Bears are fine with, and something we should learn to be okay with too.
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I'm willing to bet
it was more likely that he didn’t want to take the pay cut. I obviously have nothing that backs it up, but if a team has to pay you 5 million or make a choice, why actively take less, if you know someone else is still going to sign you if you go away, possibly for more than the team that you’re currently with?
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I really think it's both...
He’d rather not take the pay cut of course, but once resigned to taking the pay cut who would you rather play for, the team you’re going to be third string for, or the team you have a chance of starting for?
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Didn't Dickerson report
that Brown’s agent asked for an extension? That equals to a raise, at least in the guaranteed catergory.
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Thought I heard he was asking for an extension too
After hearing that there was no way AB was re-negotiating his contract and no way the Bears would be keeping him at 5 mil this year and a 5.5 mil salary cap hit the next. Everyone saying we suck for not getting anything in trade for AB is ignoring that all the info about him being released came from AB, killing any trade possibility. The front office has a deserved rep for being sub-par on things like this but this one’s more on AB. Intentionally IMO. It made it possible for him to choose where he went after release rather than to whomever was desperate enough to take his over-priced contract in a trade (probably no one anyway).
I agree completely
This is one of those times where the FO did the right thing. They called Brown’s agents bluff, and was released because he didn’t warrant a raise, more guaranteed money, and an extension. Combine this with the fact Marinelli wanted more of a speed rusher on the end opposite Pepp, and Izzy’s capability anywhere he plays; it made it an easier decision than most fans cared for.
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Still don't see why they "had" to release him
wish they’d kept him and cut Anderson. Plus, I like Izzy better inside than outside for some reason.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
and worse
considering everyone at Halas is in a “win or else” year….
You’d think they’d want older but better. Esp in an uncapped year. Cheap and crappy! awesome.
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my sentiments exactly
this sums it all up, well done
talk radio will be pining for 96 by week 4 after watching anderson suck it up again
by reefermadness3 on Apr 9, 2010 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
They've tried older
but not better for three years now, with crappy results. Out with the old, in with the new.
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I agree.
I would prefer Izzy kept up his weight and continue to play DT instead. If the Bears are high on Mark Anderson then they could still resign Ogunleye at a low price as some insurance, he did say he would like to stay with the Bears. I do have faith in Idonije to play DE.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 8, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Great point about Izzy
I have also thought that too, but haven’t had the chance to mention it recently.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
depends..
I think Anderson has a lot of potential talent, we just need someone to get in his head, take out the block, and bring it out. Plus Idonije is nothing but solid. Alex Brown was a great locker room/motivational force..but his play was average at best for more money. Definitely not worth 6 mil per year to play as a backup.
On another note
I’m really looking forward to seeing Gilbert and Melton get some more PT this season.
Chevelle and Three Days Grace??? Fuc*ing AWESOME!!!
seriously? Gilbert
he’s already been stated that at practice, it was a HUGE mistake to have drafted him in the 3rd…you don’t redshirt defensive line players…you let em at the QB…at least worth some playing time to see what you got…
Gilbert was on the roster all last year
He just didn’t get much PT
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 9, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope he gets more this next season
But since I haven’t really seen to much of him, can’t say anything else.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Not to sound snooty
but wouldn’t it sound better if you used this line instead?
No two situations are the same
Nice post btw. It’s not at all unreasonable to think Izzy and Marc can’t at least duplicate Brown’s mediocre stats. It completely astounds the mind to hear talk about how great he is. He’s been nothing but average since entering the league (numbers back it up), and again, teams pay for pass-rushing DEs, not run-stopping DEs.
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Probably.
And yeah, I like Izzy a lot, and I think Anderson has earned a shot at some more PT. I just think both sides of the Alex Brown debate are right.
Alex Brown wasn’t worth 5.5 million a year, but he was definitely worth 3 million a year. People keep acting like the Bears are crazy for not signing Alex Brown as depth for 3 million a year, when the reality is that there was no way he was choosing to sign as a third-string back up instead of possible starter no matter if the money was the same or not.
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Also think of it this way
Brown averaged 6 sacks a year since like 2005 or 2006. So is he worth $500k per sack the next two years? To the Bears probably not but if he can produce that for the Saints maybe that’s good value in their eyes.
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by Sam Householder on Apr 9, 2010 12:04 AM CDT reply actions
How many friggin ....
….. posts are we gonna have on this subject ??!? I’m tired of posting the same thing so just go to one of the numerous AB threads and my opinions are there .
Glad I'm not alone
Seems like each teams blog has something like this. Over at the Phinsider, it Jason Taylor 24/7, or at Bleeding Green Nation it whether letting McNabb go was a good thing. I just want a little variety here people!
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Amen
we are way past the point of absurdity
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by lookingdeadred on Apr 9, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
When we're all Bears all the time
We’re gonna hit on similar subjects… It’s the nature of the beast… Just be sure to stop by next week when I hit on great ways to utilize the TE for Mike Martz! ;)
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 9, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
It has a lot to do with the dearth of topics at the moment...
Quite literally, the only three topics of note for the team are the release and signing of Alex Brown, the possible run at Atogwe(now a mostly dead story with no new news in some time), and the draft.
Since we don’t have a pick in the first or second round, it makes anything but a wide overview of possible selections by round extremely difficult. A good amount of picks in the third round are made because they are picks with value that dropped from the second round, and on the flip side of the same token someone that should have been there in the third is usually taken early, or a first rounder fell.
With that said, Lester is doing a fantastic job with a breakdown of possibles by position, and round, but a job that doesn’t need duplicated as that’s really the best that it can be done. You may see some drill down on a few specific players of note closer to draft day when relative values are more fixed, but this extremely dead period is usually filled with a WCG mock draft.
I guess the long story in short form is, there isn’t a lot of news to be reported, nor things to base opinion off of unless you want to read about McNabb going to the Redskins here too ;)
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Hopefully the Bears will have a #1 pick next year
it’ll make for some interesting posts
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 9, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I dunno...
Pick #32 isn’t THAT interesting :D
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by Jacob Hayes on Apr 9, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
NICE!
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 9, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I know nature and sports message boards abhore a vacuum
but there really is nothing to be gained by another thread on ABrown. Leave that poor and very dead horse alone.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Apr 10, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Gotta say I agree ...
….. with you guys .
by MidWayMonster54 on Apr 11, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's what i think people are forgetting
We are not trying to replace Alex Browns production we’re doing that with Peppers and quite honestly i think he can get 12.5 sacks which would equal the production of Both our starting ends last year. That would mean what we get from Izzy and MA will be icing on the cake. I may be in the minority but i think MA will have a very good year.
L.A.----Where playing Like the Sparks is tolerated by a Hall of Fame coach.....
I thought the same thing in 2007.
Here’s to hope.
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by David Taylor on Apr 9, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll say this about him
For the 1st time in his career he he held contain when it was a run to his side, he got sucked in so many times earlier in his career. And he looked to have added to his pass rush moves.
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 9, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Now he can spin to the right AND the left.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
And now he's an ambi-turner.
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