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53-Man Roster Prediction

...guaranteed to go wrong.

It's really way too early to be predicting the Chicago Bears final 53-man roster, so I thought... why not, let's have a go at it.

There were a few decisions that I would have probably made different, if I were the one running the team. You know, with the massive amount of insider knowledge that I actually have on these players, their work ethics, etc. However, I tried to put on my Lovie Smith decision-making bald-cap, and predict the roster as he would see fit.

Follow me past the jump to see who made the cut and who didn't.

Star-divide

Offense

QB: J. Cutler, Vet-to-be-signed*, D. LeFevour (3)
RB: M. Forte, C. Taylor, G. Wolfe* (3)
WR: D. Hester, E. Bennett, J. Knox, D. Aromashodu, J. Iglesias, R. Davis*, Vet-to-be-signed* (7)
TE: G. Olsen, B. Manumaleuna, D. Clark, K. Davis (4)
T: C. Williams, F. Omiyale, K. Shaffer, J. Webb (4)
G: R. Garza, L. Louis*, J. Beekman (3)
C: O. Kreutz (1)
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25 Total (25)


Defense

LB: B. Urlacher, L. Briggs, P. Tinoisamoa, N. Roach, H. Hillenmeyer, T. Shaw (6)
CB: Z. Bowman, C. Tillman, T. Jennings, C. Graham, D. Moore* (5)
S: C. Harris, M. Wright, A. Afalava, D. Manning, J. Bullocks (5)
DE: J. Peppers, M. Anderson*, H. Melton, C. Wootton, (4)
DT: T. Harris, A. Adams, J. Gilbert, M. Harrison, I. Idonije (5)
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25 Total (50)


Special Teamers

ST: R. Gould, B. Maynard, P. Mannelly* (3)
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3 Total (53)

 

NOTES:

Waived: C. Hanie, K. Bell, E. Peterman, C. Steltz, M. Toeina, E. Williams
PS: W. Ta'ufo'ou, F. Barnes, L. Horn, K. Malast, W. Turrene, Q. Scott, J. Asiata

1. I still think they'll sign a veteran signal-caller to back up Cutler. My guess would be the 33-year-old Bulger, whose already familiar with the new offense being installed in Chicago. This move will subsequently end Hanie's run with the Bears. Originally, I had figured that the Bears would try and stash LeFevour on the Practice Squad, but with his intangibles, I don't think he'll stick there. Then again, there's always the possibility of "red-shirting" him, but I don't see that happening either.

2. Garrett Wolfe versus Kahlil Bell... This was a tough one. I highly doubt we'll keep four RB's, and I think the man-crush this organization has on Wolfe will give him the edge here. I guess it'll be interesting, to say nicely, to see if Martz can find a use for Mighty Mouse, when now one else could. Tough luck Kahlil, we'll always remember, in vivid detail, that special 70-something yard run (give-or-take) that you had against whatever team it was on that day that happened sometime way back when.

3a. I still believe that they're going to sign a veteran wide receiver to the mix. The only way I don't see this happening is if Freddie Barnes tears it up in training camp and really impresses. And even then, I wouldn't be surprised to see eight receivers on the final 53 - how's that for a team that gets off the bus...

3b. Rashied Davis versus Eric Peterman, and the winner is... the Droppapotamus. While Davis is older, more expensive and has dropped a ball or two (knock it off, children), he's an extremely good special teams player who's said to have become one of the vocal leaders on this team. Plus, he's a Lovie guy, so...

4. Our Offensive Guard position is a complete mess. But, evidently Mike Tice has a plan to create brownies out of... well, you know... that stuff... that stuff that would never make a good brownie. However, if they do sign a veteran OG, or if they do decide to keep eight receivers, then I see the first cut coming from the TE position. Meaning, so long Kellen Davis, or possibly even Desmond Clark (insert sad-face emoticon here).

5. D.J. Moore was tough for me to call. He was highly-touted by the organization as a value pick last year, yet failed to see the field. That's not really something that would traditionally worry me out of a fourth-round rookie. However, when you factor in the durability issues we had in our secondary last season, and combine it with the chances we actually had to evaluate the talent on the roster. Well, it doesn't favor well for the five-foot-nine cornerback out of Vanderbilt. All that said, I still think he makes the roster, and Woodny Turrene (his hair... was perfect! Aaawwwwoooooo) falls to the Practice Squad, yet again.

6. Josh Bullocks versus Craig Steltz... which brand of urine-flavored popsicle would you prefer?

7. I see the defensive front line as one of their most stacked units heading into the season. The addition of Peppers is hard to ignore and was an instant upgrade. As much as I'll miss the versatility that Alex Brown offered, and as much as I liked the Prince, Pepper's contributions should also push the players around him. I can only hope that Mark Anderson works out the way that a lot of the members on this website believes that he will. Anthony Adams is a mammoth of a man and is one of the most underrated players on our front four. He may not be flashy, but he gets the job done. It's been rumored that the team is down on Melton and/or Gilbert, and time will reveal the truth. However, if this line stays in tact, I could see great things from this group in 2010.

8. I'm willing to give Mannelly another chance, but if he snaps the ball directly to Garrett Wolfe one more freakin' time...

Anyway that's my list, what are your predictions and/or thoughts?

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My only real change to your list, is the 7 WR's.

I think if they’re going to keep 4 TE’s (which I think they will), they won’t also keep 7 WRs. I can see them keeping only 24 offensive players, and Lovie keeping another defensive back. Probably a corner. Either Woodny or J Moore.

by Mike Mueller on May 13, 2010 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

to clarify, I dont' think they'll bring in a vet WR.

You did not mention draft pick Josh Moore at all. Do you think he gets cut or PS?

by Mike Mueller on May 13, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah...

the curious case of Josh Moore. Good catch. I think my brain has officially removed him from the roster since we were supposed to have drafted him last year. Maybe he’ll be the one that pushes D.J. Moore to the waived list – I do see it coming down to one or the other.

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by David Taylor on May 13, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking too.

Josh Moore will make the 53 man roster before D.J. Moore will IMO.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on May 13, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

you guys are probably right,

I just didn’t think of him, to be completely honest.

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by David Taylor on May 13, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it comes down the 2 of them

I think DJ has a better skill set… at least based on their college days

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 14, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good post!

I agree no FB on the roster and 7 WR’s. I think they may try and stash Webb on the practice squad and secretly hope LeFevour sprains an ankle in the 4th preseason game (IR)

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 13, 2010 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Horray for Wolfe on the roster

He fits Martz scheme much better than Bell and is overall better than him.

by DaHamsta on May 13, 2010 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Hopefully his lacerated kidney (ouch!) doesn't hold him back.

He needs to show he is 100% healthy & still has the quickness he used to have, or else he’s a luxury we can not afford.

by Mike Mueller on May 13, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't Jim McMahon have a kidney issue back in the day?

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 13, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right, I believe it happened in a game against the Raiders.

I also think it was that injury that brought the “flak jacket” into the NFL and is now pretty much standard issue for QB’s. Something else that Bears don’t credit for. On a somewhat related subject, when they showed the Bears/Pats Super Bowl on NFL Network the other night, Dick Enberg mentioned that McMahon head butting his linemen was another common practice that the Bears (specifically Jimmy Mac) invented.

by BearFan611 on May 13, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

QB's

There is no way they cut Hanie. They are way too high on him. There is a good chance they don’t bring in a veteran, if they do LeFevour will be on the practice squad.

by dabearsman on May 13, 2010 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I think if LeFevour goes to the PS

another team will put a claim on him. Which is why he makes the 53 man roster.

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 13, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would say there's definitely a way.

I forget who said it on here, maybe Dane, but a lot of Hanie’s value was with his knowledge of the system. He lost that with the new Coordinator.

And like Lester said, I really see LeFevour getting claimed if we try to stash him on the Practice Squad. IR, maybe, but even then they are putting a hold on his progression. Which is why I have it playing out the way that I do.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on May 13, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure the exact rules but,

I think if you are on IR you can still work out, condition with the team, and go to meetings, you just can’t all out practice.

Someone needs to get us a clarification!

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 13, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

awesome.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on May 13, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

one more for green

BearNecessities you're my assistant, okay you're supposed to
back me up and go get me juice boxes when I tell you. Now go get me
a juice box.

by Ditkavsworld on May 14, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

heres what I found on Injured reserve rules

The injured reserve is a list of players who are injured and unable to play. NFL teams use the reserve so they can keep a player on the team but not take up a roster spot. A team is allowed 53 players on the roster.

Currently, the NFL’s injured reserve rule restricts a player from returning to play during the season that he’s placed on the list. For further information on the rules concerning the contract status and compensation for injured players, see the Collective Bargaining Agreement (or CBA).

by kernal316 on May 13, 2010 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Differences of opinion...

I don’t see the Bears bringing in a Vet, staying with Hanie as the #2

If I see anyone we drafted going to the PS it’d probably be Webb who most definitely don’t have what it takes to be a starter at either T position at this point IMO.

I don’t know what they do, but I’d rather have Steltz a million times over compared to Bullocks.

I also don’t see the Bears bringing in a Vet receiver, and possibly see them bringing in Peterman and Rashied, or perhaps just Peterman as the special teams ace or aces.

Rashied is gone after this year either way, so it’s tough to see them releasing a skilled ST player that also plays receiver.

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by Jacob Hayes on May 13, 2010 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe Afalava isn't as highly regarded as one would think,

or maybe Manning is definitely on the way out. However, If it comes down to Steltz and Bullocks, I don’t see it turning out in Steltz’s favor. The Bears have already seen all of their safeties and had the chance to cleanly break ties with Bullocks. Yet decided to give him a new contract. Not that that’s a sure thing in the NFL, but it does speak to some length. I’ve been wrong plenty before though, so…

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on May 13, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

good point

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 14, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bullocks has a few things going for him over Steltz

He’s a much better athlete, and has lots of game experience as a Free Safety (youtube infamy not withstanding). Every opportunity that Steltz has been given, he’s seemed to have fumbled it away.

by Mike Mueller on May 14, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm starting to think that big Al just looked better last year

due to our lack of quality safties. I still like him but wonder about his shoulder injury i believe. Still trying to figure out WTF is going on with the Bullocks love. Craig Stelz will be gone because he’s from LSU and well you saw how good Jamarcus was so that means LSU = Garbage.

Ladies and Gentlemen I give you a Dane Noble LSU rant/picture in 3-2-1….

BearNecessities you're my assistant, okay you're supposed to
back me up and go get me juice boxes when I tell you. Now go get me
a juice box.

by Ditkavsworld on May 14, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good list

I generally agree with your predictions.

Though, I think instead of a vet WR (WR #7), we stick with 6 WRs and keep an extra DB. The extra DB could be Steltz. I also hope we keep both Moore CBs and cut Jennings.

I could see LeFevour on IR with Hanie being the #3.

by MakeHalasProud on May 13, 2010 4:56 PM CDT reply actions  

What about Quentin Scott?

He has great size and pretty good skills

by frenchbears113 on May 13, 2010 6:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I see him going to the P.S.

Could prove me wrong though, maybe he’ll make the cut.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on May 13, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think his contribution to the team depends on his performance on special teams

He does have size and speed (6’4", 224 lbs, 4.43 forty). If you read the article about Toub above, he’s got 2 out of the 3 things he looks for. If he brings the attitude, he certainly has a shot. The backup safeties need to be able to perform well on special teams. Are Steltz, Bullocks, Manning (aside from kick returning), & Afalava really that great on special teams? PFF special teams breakdown by tackles made: link

Steltz: 2 tackles for the entire season.
Bullocks: 3
Manning: 2
Afalava: 0 (although as a starter most of the season, him & Manning didn’t play much ST)

Just to compare to the top 6 on Bears:
Tim Shaw: 21
Corey Graham: 14
AP & McClover: 9 each (both these guys performances have to be replaced because they’re gone.)
Wolfe: 8
Rashied: 6

by Mike Mueller on May 14, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boring

I reluctantly agree with your assessment, but I’m hoping Quentin Scott and Freddie Barnes surprises the hell out of us. Plus somebody else totally off the radar makes it.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by phastphil on May 13, 2010 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

haha.

I did say “I tried to put on my Lovie Smith decision-making bald-cap, and predict the roster as he would see fit.” So at least I gave the warning, right?

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on May 13, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Martz

will change our perception. Takeaways, special teams plus Martz’s offense could make it exciting.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by phastphil on May 13, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

One could only hope.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on May 13, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody posts after 1800 - wtf?

Good Job Smudgers!! I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said. Especially the part where you said you’re probably wrong. Inevitably you will be.

Having said that, no one can predict who will be cut elsewhere and perhaps fall in our lap. Nor can you predict who will get injured or crack Mike Tice in the chops. Time will tell.

Very nice evaluation – +1

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on May 14, 2010 12:09 AM CDT reply actions  

I tried to put on my Lovie Smith decision-making bald-cap

In that case, we’re excited by what we’re seeing out of everyone and everything’s smelling of roses.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta

by Spongie on May 14, 2010 2:49 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice post Briton...

I tend to agree for the most part. Hanie is gone and Bulger will be brought in, not necessarily the worst trade off. LeFlavor will stick on the 53 to protect him. I do think Martz will keep only the 6 WRs you named because he’s keeping 4 TEs. Unproven WRs are easier to hide on a PS then say a QB or DE. Wolfe beats out Bell only for the ST, not because he fits the Martz offense.
I am curious about the DE position. Unless Wootton is lights out great, I see Izzy getting the starting nod at DE, with Anderson as the situational pass rusher and Izzy moving to the 3-tech when Anderson comes in. I don’t know if Melton makes it at all. Gilbert will stay and that leaves a spot in the D-line for someone to fill; I see a good preseason battle for that last D-line spot.
 I think the Bears are going to punt on the whole DB situation and use that extra WR spot to keep a Bullocks or DJ, or Steltz. IMO, Bullocks and DJ should be cut outright. J Moore will stick, but all of this depends on the ST stars.
I am looking for Barnes, Q Scott, and Spicer to make waves at camp.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on May 14, 2010 6:28 AM CDT reply actions  

53

Offense-24
QB-Cutler, Hanie, LeFevour (3)
HB-C. Taylor, Forte, K. Bell (3)
TE-B. Mann., Clark, Olsen, Davis (4)
WR-Devin A., E. Bennett, D. Hester, J. Knox, J. Iglesias, F. Barnes (6)
T-C. Williams, F. Omiyale, K. Schaffer, J. Webb (4)
G-Garza, Louis, Beekman (3)
C-Kruetz (1)

Defense-26
LB: B. Urlacher, L. Briggs, P. Tinoisamoa, N. Roach, H. Hillenmeyer, T. Shaw (6)
CB: Z. Bowman, C. Tillman, T. Jennings, C. Graham, W. Turenne, J. Moore (6)
SS: C. Harris, A. Afalava, D. Manning (3)
FS: M. Wright, , C. Stetlz (2)
DE: J. Peppers, I. Idonije, M. Anderson, C. Wootton (4)
DT: T. Harris, A. Adams, J. Gilbert, M. Harrison, M. Toeina (5)

Special Teamers

ST: R. Gould, B. Maynard, P. Mannelly (3)

Practice Squad-9
FS: Q. Scott, DT: A. Spicer and J. Saddler-McQueen, DE: B. Matthews, LB: M. Mayberry, RB-B. Minor, WR-E. Peterman and G. Matthews, G-J. Asiata

by MetalGearPeaceWalker on May 14, 2010 6:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Can you have 9 guys on the PS?

I think the max is 8

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 14, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

8

And a pretty good article about the eligibility and rules regarding NFL practice squad players

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scout_team

Let me take out J. Saddler-McQueen.

by MetalGearPeaceWalker on May 14, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, here's a nice one too

Link will pop!

"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 14, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

53-man roster

Good list. The only changes I would make is that I don’t see Melton making the final 53 and I think Woodny Turenne makes it over D.J. Moore. I thought last year in the preseason he showed pretty good awareness and was a fairly good tackler. I just didn’t see enough out of Melton last summer to change my opinion and I think someone like a Matt Toeaina might be a better option there. Some team out there will also pick up Hanie if we let him go, not saying he’d play here, but I think there’s enough tape on him in the preseason that another GM will be intrigued enough to at least take a look at him.

by walterfan34 on May 14, 2010 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

IR rules

As far as the current IR system goes, I know the guy is out for the season but I know they can still help out the team in any way possible. Urlacher was on the sideline a lot after he was hurt, it really seemed like he was trying to help the D out or make a suggestion that he thinks would help, but I’m not sure. I read a rumor a while back that the competition committee is trying to change a few of the roster rules, like IR would not be for the whole season, might be 4-6 weeks, like it was when Ditka coached. The other rule pertained to adding more guys on the training camp roster (90 instead of 80) and keeping more on the active list (60 instaed of 53)

by walterfan34 on May 14, 2010 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice work!

I think you did a good job predicting what Lovie will do.

I think Turenne makes it over DJ Moore. With that said, predicting the CBs this season is tough. Outside of Tillman, Bowman and Graham, it’s anybody’s guess.

by rdent4hof on May 16, 2010 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

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