Expert Projection? Bears Ranked 22nd
Well-known as one of the most respected NFL analysts in the country, Rich Gosselin has projected the 2010 NFC North teams as follows:
4th: Packers
6th: Vikings
22nd: Bears
24th: Lions
As Brad Biggs pointed out today: "If his forecast holds true, there ought to be significant changes come January at Halas Hall."
A few questions to contemplate here:
- Are the Packers and the Vikes really worthy of their high rankings?
- Are the Packers really going to be better than the Vikes, especially if Favre returns to Minny?
- Are the Bears ranked appropriately?
- Are the Bears really only two places better than the Lions?
- If the Bears teeter around .500 again this year, what sort of changes will be seen at Halas Hall? WIll it be only in the coaching ranks, or will there be changes in the Front Office?
I'm certain that Rich Gosselin is one of the best in the business, but his 2010 projections don't seem to add up. What do you think?
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Based on what we did last year
And how much (little?) we were able to upgrade ourselves during the off-season, 22nd is probably a pretty accurate assessment. However, one thing that people forget is that Forte played just about the entire season injured, last year – and that hurt our running game and our offense tremendously. Missing Urlacher for the year hurt a lot, as well. Now we’ve got 2 key players back healthy, this year.
Maybe it’s a fair ranking, but we also may end up surprising some of the experts this year…
Hmm...
…how much (little?) we were able to upgrade ourselves during the off-season
LT: Upgraded (at end of 2009)
RT: Upgraded (at end of 2009)
RB: Upgraded
TE (run blocking): Upgraded
DE: Upgraded
S: Upgraded
OL coach: Upgraded
OC: Upgraded
QB coach: Upgraded
by Dane Noble on Jun 14, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yea we did nothing ...
…. to improve our team . LOL !
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jun 14, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry my bad ....
… I forget that nothing we do as a team is important .
/sarc ( < nice addition hadn’t seen that done before )
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jun 14, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Add in
CB: Upgraded (because of pass rush upgrade)
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Stupid babies need the most attention!
by David Taylor on Jun 14, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Most of those upgrades are very marginal
With the exception of Peppers. Taylor and Maneulamena are both solid players, but they’re also 30+ backups – not impact starters, like Peppers. Harris is/was a solid player, but is he a major upgrade over Kevin Payne at safety?
And getting new coaches, like Martz is fine, but the players are the ones who determine whether or not we’re a top 20 or top 15 team – not a new OC, line or QB coach.
And we did not upgrade our O-line during the off-season. We moved Omiyale from LG to RT.
Yes, major upgrade over Kevin Payne
Payne was brutal in coverage and was a poor tackler.
"He is remarkably bright", a "terrific talent", the sky is the limit for Cutler"
-Mike Martz-
by tfrabotta on Jun 15, 2010 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That depends on how you look at it
Wasn’t Harris going to be outright “released” by Carolina if they didn’t get any trade offers for him?
From what I've read
Harris was going to be traded or released because he didn’t fit the new system in Carolina. I’m not trying to pretend that everything is puppies and kittens, but it does help justify that aspect a little.
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Stupid babies need the most attention!
by David Taylor on Jun 16, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on Dane...
New does not equal upgraded. Tice is an upgrade at a position coach, but so would have been anyone else. Martz is a legitimate upgrade at OC. QB coach???? how do you know that? Yes Peppers is an obvious upgrade to one DE position, but what about Anderson/Izzy, are they upgrades to Brown/Ogunleye at the other? The Bears have one better safety, but what about FS or CB, did they improve? Harris and Harrison are still questionable at DT. The LBs look to be solid again, let’s hope the DTs can keep them from being injured again this season.
The Bears added Manu, who can block at TE (BTW he’s an awful receiver), but were the Bears that needy at TE? The o-line is a HUGE question mark. Williams is good at LT, but not elite yet. He still has something to prove. We don’t know if Omiyale is any good at RT either. Garza is good at RG, but what C and LG? Kreutz is simply old and hasn’t played great in a few seasons and is coming off surgery. Beekman is good but not great at C or LG and there is no clear “winner” at LG yet. The WRs are fast but yet to be great and the RBs are above average. Cutler is great, but needs to prove he can make better decisions.
All in all there are some serious questions on the defense and the offense is poised to be top 10 IF the o-line plays well. I agree that 22nd sounds bad, but we, as fans, can still be realistic about what improvements need to STILL occur before we start decrying the “experts” about their unfair predictions; however wrong they are. The Bears looked like they had improved in 2009 over 2008, but ended up worse. IMO, Lovie is still the issue. His ego has made some dubious draft decisions that have simply not panned out (leaving massive talent and depth issues) and his coaching has left seemingly talented players confused, out of position, and underdeveloped. I hope the players can overcome the Lovie handicap because this team can compete for the playoffs if everything falls into place.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
As I Stated Previously LostinSTL
The Bears are the only team with 3 assistant coaches that have had NFL Head Coach Experience. If the is not considered an upgrade in Coordinators then I disagree with you and agree with Dane.
And they've all been fired
Rod Marinelli went 0-16 one year, what a winner!
most head coaches have been fired
it kind of goes along with the territory
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 15, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Martz won a super bowl one year, what a winner!
who cares if they were fired from being head coaches? With the Bears they are not being asked to be head coaches, they are being asked to focus on the area each knows best. They have all been successful assistants, very successful in fact.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jun 16, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions
They've all had their ups and downs throughout their careers
The bottom line is this: it’s the players who make the coaches – not the other way around.
Coaches are like jockeys in horse racing. The best horse will usually win the raise, even with a bad jockey. But a great jockey usually won’t make much of a difference on an average horse.
Right now we’ve got a few good jockeys and lots of average horses.
naive statement
While I agree talent is more important, a bad coach can cause a talented team to underachieve, while a good coach can get a less talented team to overachieve.
As for your unfortunate horse racing analogy, yes, to win you need a good horse, but your jockey has to make the right moves, the horse does not do that on his own. Plus the trainer has to get the horse ready to race, too.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jun 16, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Happy to disagree, but actually disagree...
I said:
Tice is an upgrade at a position coach
and
Martz is a legitimate upgrade at OC
On those points we agree.
I am more than happy to disagree and argue points of view, but please actually read them. I hate wasting time clarifying, I would rather get at the heart of the issue.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
Exactly LostinSTL
Anybody that thinks Martz is not an upgrade from Ron Turner does not understand football. And football players are not horses. It’s quite a bit more complicated than that.
Jimmy thinks coaching is irrelevant, the fatal flaw in his argument
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jun 18, 2010 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Like I said in one of my comments below
We were very “busy” this off-season. And that’s really great – it shows that we tried to bring in a lot of new faces.
But with the exception of Peppers – just about all of our upgrades were “marginal.” Taylor and Maneulamena are nice players, but they’re both 30+ backups. They could start, if needed, but they’re not impact players. Chris Harris is a nice player, too. But is he really a huge upgrade over Kevin Payne? I don’t know…
Because we over-hauled the offensive coaching staff, brought in Martz and Tice, and a few role players to complement Peppers, does that make us an automatic top 20 or top 15 team?
That’s up for debate.
ARE............................
You serious Jimmy? Anyone with any knowledge of sports can see that the Bears have improved tremendously since the last game of the season in Detroit. I know its only on paper, but they have tried to put themselves in a position to compete at a high level. They have upgraded the defense, they have upgraded the safety position, two of the major problems from a season ago. So you aren’t really a fan if you can’t see the improvement this team has made.
by Dozjah on Jun 14, 2010 4:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks Dozjah ...
… I was gonna say the things my man .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jun 14, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I see
I guess I"m just not a fan, then.
Since you’re so knowledgeable of sports, where should we be ranked – based on our “tremendous” off-season improvements?
I say top ...
… 12 to 15 .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jun 14, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
At least?
We’re not better better than San Francisco, Pittsburg or the Eagles (even without McNabb). I would put us at 19 or 20.
We are better than Pittsburg and San Fran...
…maybe not the Eagles but you still have to question how Kolb will handle being the starter.
San Francisco beat us last year
And some people think they may win their division. No one is picking us to contend for a wild card spot.
The only way we’re better than the Steelers is if Rothlisberger gets busted for stalking a co-ed – and gets himself suspended for the season.
The argument can be made
That Cutler threw 5 INT’s against SF and we only lost by 4. Regarding the Steelers, their D is aging quickly, but so is ours. I won’t argue either way, we’re all around the same talent-wise. Guess we’ll find out during the season. I’ll agree we deserve around the 18-20 range until we prove we’re better.
Aw man I shot Marvin in the face.
One point
SF winning the weakest division in football doesn’t make them a better team. The only team making the West respectable was Arizona and Warner and now half of that is gone.
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Is my mind a'goin on me or am I watchin you jibber jabber like some sorta jibberty box. Jibber Jabber on! Jibber Jabber on!
SF Game Last Year On The Road.
Was a fluke if I ever seen one. Crappy play calling in the Red Zone led to a flurry of field Goals. The 2 minute offense in the Red Zone and having turnovers to end the game. And I think we beat Pittsburgh last season if I’m not mistaken. Tell me Jimmy Mack, what other moves would you have suggested to make the Bears better in 2010? Obviously you think the moves they made will have little effect other than the signing of Peppers. What could the Bears have done differently?
Really ? Why exactly are they ....
…… so much better than us ?
San Fran has two rookies starting on their O-line , marginal recievers outside of Davis and Crabtree , a defensive line that has issues and a secondary that has issues also ( they gave up more passing yards than we did ) .
The Eagles are startin a new QB whom looked unimpressive in his few starts ( his career stat line is 79 comp ,130 att , 60.8 perc , 885 yards , 6.8 avg , with 4TD’s & 7INTS … wow thats impressive ain’t it ……) , their replacing their leading rusher and their D is so-so . For the most part the two defenses were the same , we ranked 21 in points allowed they ranked 19th , we ranked 17th in total yards allowed they were 12th , we ranked 13th in pass yards allowed they were 17th . And thats with us minus Urlacher , Pisa , newly aquired Chris Harris and oh yea some guy named Julius Peppers who has had a few sacks in his career .
The Steelers will be without the walking rape machine Big Ben for at least 4 games leaving them with Byron Leftwitch to start , their O-line has issues , their best reciever is with the Jets now and their D is good , when healthy .
So really how are any of those teams better than us ?
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jun 14, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Top 15 minimum. O-line upgrades include getting rid of Pace, one of the biggest additions by subtraction you’ll ever see. My post coming tomorrow or Wednesday will show that out of 200 offensive linemen with over 150 pass protect snaps, Pace was the 192nd ranked. He was one of the worst pass protectors in the entire NFL. By the same metrics, Chris Williams 200+ pass protect snaps at LT put him in the top 10 among all LT. That includes an awesome game vs the mullet.
by Mike Mueller on Jun 14, 2010 7:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
All 3 of those teams take care of the football better than we do
Remember, we’ve done almost nothing to upgrade our O-line this off-season – except move Omiyale from LG to RT. Martz’ offense is based on precision timing between the QB and receivers. His offenses have historically given up a lot of turn-overs – usually amongst the most in the league. Cutler has been an absolute turnover machine over the past 2 years, when he’s thrown 44 interceptions. Those 2 factors combined are a potential formula for disaster – if not something to be wary of.
Peppers is a talent, but he’s been inconsistent. In ‘07 he had 2.5 sacks. We’ll see. Hopefully he brings his “A” game this year.
And I would probably take any of those O-lines over ours – with the exception of maybe Pittsburg.
Wait.
What about Mike Tice he makes our O-line better right? We have young athletic guys in Asiata and Louis to move in at left guard and we have CDUB at left tackle from the start.
If everything works out
Hopefully Tice makes that big a difference. Asiata and Louis are basically unknowns. Hopefully Kreutz and Garza can give us another decent year. Both are getting up there in age.
I think with Kreutz healthy this year
We will see a huge change in the O-line play. I was wondering why he got blown up off the line so much last year and come to find out he had bone spurs in his ankles, so ya that probably had something to do with it.
And i have not given up on my boy Forte either.
Bear Down.
by Chitownproduct on Jun 15, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
whether you are a fan or not is immaterial
but your comment that the Bears did little or nothing to improve the team is just ignorant.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jun 15, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see
Well, I never said we did “little or nothing” to improve. Is that material?
I said “how much (little?) we were able to upgrade ourselves during the off-season, 22nd is probably a pretty accurate assessment.” Meaning, depending on how you look at it – and you can look at it either way – you could say we did a lot or maybe not enough. My point was simply that we added one great player and lots of marginal players. Does all of that activity get us into the playoffs? That’s obviously debatable.
I think that got taken way, way over-board, starting with Noble’s comment about over-hauling the offensive side of the coaching staff, etc.
you cannot imply that little was done
a lot of changes have happened. Now will these changes produce the results the Bears and their fans are looking for? TBD, but to imply little was done is not accurate.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jun 16, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I never said a lot changes didn't happen, now did I?
What I said was: aside from Peppers – the other players that were added were “marginal.” That may not be “enough” to get this team into the top 15 on a pre-season ranking.
Are you implying that Taylor, Maneulamena and Harris are major upgrades?
see above
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jun 16, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
If I Understand You Correctly JimmyMack
It’s your contention that Taylor, Maneulamena and Harris are average horses as well as old horses? I wonder if there are other teams in the NFL with these aging horses.
Pretty much
Aren’t they all on the wrong side of 30? Are they significantly better than average? I don’t know…
I Think
Age is just a number. Just because a player is over 30 does not mean he can’t still be a significant force on the field. Was Jerry Rice a washed up at 30 and not an impact player? How about Clay Matthews, 278 games played at linebacker in 19 seasons. Bruce Matthews, 19 seasons played as an Offensive linemen. And for a Hockey analogy, Marian Hossa, age 31, left/right winger of the 2010 World Champion Chicago BlackHawks.
come on dozjah...
“So you aren’t really a fan if you can’t see the improvement this team has made”. Get off your high horse. I AM a fan and I disagree. Upgrading on paper don’t mean sh*t when it come to game time. There guys neen to play with heart and have the leadership to get the right players in the right positions on the right plays. Lovie can’t do that. The reality is the ranking is correct, maybe 18th or 19th in the leage.
"It is easier to do a job right than to explain why you didn't."
Take out Carolina and Buffalo
and I have no prooblem with being 20. The thing is though, I don’t think there is a big difference between 10 and 20 (9-7 to 8-8?). I think injuries will separate alot of those teams. Until the Bears prove they have worked out some of their issues why should anyone be optimistic? Prove them wrong which I think we will. We did beat the mighty Vikings at the end of last year…
"He is remarkably bright", a "terrific talent", the sky is the limit for Cutler"
-Mike Martz-
This is where he ranked teams about this time last season.
If this link is accurate. Interesting.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
And did we or ...
… did we not add some folks since then ? Or is 6’6" 285 pounds of DE , that can run like the wind just a figment of my imagination ?
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jun 14, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm...
I think the Packers and VIkings (given Favre returns) are ranked appropriately. Although, there are a couple concerns on both teams, none are significant or “glaring problems”.
Thus far in the offseason (June), I think the Packers are the team to beat in the NFC. They have all the weapons on defense and offense and have a very good schedule slotting (as the VIkings did in 2009).
The Bears are ranked where they are supposed to be at this point. Although, most glaring weaknesses of 2009 have been addressed, there are too many question marks on this team in terms of will things gel/pan out in enough time. The biggest concern is will the offense improve under Martz. Although, there is clearly enough room for optimism, there just isn’t any proof that it will at this point.
If the Bears disappoint, I think that Jerry Angelo will survive and maybe some of the coaching staff. I think Lovie Smith might be the “Ron Turner” of 2010. I think what Halas Hall wants to see is the Bears compete in the division. I think Super Bowl is ALWAYS the ultimate goal, but I think they would be satisfied with a playoff run.
Semper Fi
Rick Gosstradamas?
Take a look back at Rick’s 2009 Pre-season prognostications. He ranked the Bears 13th and added this little gem…“What a difference a quarterback makes. By acquiring Pro Bowler Jay Cutler from the Denver Broncos, the Bears have the best quarterbacking in the NFC North for the first time since the Jim McMahon era in the 1980s. Matt Forte can complement Cutler with his legs and Devin Hester can with his hands. But the Bears need to regroup on defense.”
The Bears were 7-9 last year, they couldn’t have gotten worse through free-agency, experience, and getting healthy could they?
There is no "Off Position" for the Genius Switch - David Letterman
I disagree
Packers are way overrated. The last two seasons, they have been offseason favorites. But the fact is they tend to underachieve on gameday. They lose to weaker teams and don’t seem to get better as the season progresses. I agree they have a phenomenal qb, but it takes a lot more than that. Realistically, I think the Bears and Packers will be fighting for the number two spot in the division up to the end. Even without Favre, the Vikings have got to be considered the favorite in the division.
ONLY.........TWO.........SPOTS.......ABOVE
THE ******* LIONS!!!!
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
When you get enough high Round 1 picks...
Some stick.
by Steven Schweickert on Jun 15, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
even in Detroit???
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jun 15, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 15, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
predictions
Don’t think we’ll be 22nd this year. If the OL comes together (Mankins if signed would be a BIG help in this way) and the D reverts back to 05-06 form, we have ourselves a playoff team
Experts...
You know…
I get it that people know more about something have their opinions respected.
But being a SPORTS analyst is one of the easiest jobs in the world. Specially if you indeed enjoy the boring part of it (research).
But it’s easy to opinionate on the OBVIOUS and make a prediction.
I’ve met people in forums that are more accurate in analysis than some heralded “experts” on the Net.
I know the Bears, based on their recent past haven’t proved much.
But the Bears in 2004 we were pretty bad on Defense too. Yet…2005 came and we were a TOP 3 defense.
These analysts douchebags, forget that Teams that are good aren’t going to be good FOREVER and teams who are bad aren’t going to be bad FOREVER either.
Ranking us near the LIONS is downright offensive.
They don’t have ANYTHING besides Suh and Delmas on defensive side of the ball to be called a DEFENSE. And Suh is an unproven rookie.
Teams with BAD OL win too.
WHY THE HELL people come telling this brain-wash mumbo jumbo.
Some idiot said “well sirs, you can’t win without an pro-bowl studded OL”
Bears in 2006 had a bad OL and went to the superbowl.
THE PACKERS last year, had THE most ridiculous lame OL of the league.
Vikings’ OL was totally overrated. They get off on AP being the mauler he is. It’s rarely on the Offensive Line’s merit.
DECENT does the job.
Bears need to SCORE and PREVENT scoring, and ERASE screw-ups with big plays.
All the other “what ifs” are overlookable details.
I think the Bears will win 10 games this season.
The schedule is favorable.
Man i CANT WAIT for the bears to make these idiots eat their words.
BEAR DOWN!!
Did someone just mention Mark Schlereth!!!!!
These analysts douchebags
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
The schedule is favorable???
I thought this year’s schedule was rated tougher than last years. If so, that may have more of a bearing on this season’s outcome than many of the player personnel/coaching “upgrades”!!!
I don't know enough about the other teams to say what number we should be.
In my opinion it all rests on the Martz/Cutler situation. If Jay picks up the offense and can be more accurate than he was last year, we should be a factor in the division. If he plays as poorly as he did last year or doesn’t get on the same page with Martz, this offense tends to turn the ball over more than most anyway so, if you couple that with poor results the pressure on the defense will be incredible. While I like the Peppers signing, the release of Alex Brown without a proven replacement is still worriesome. Despite people’s response to Gale Sayers’ comments, he is correct about not knowing if Urlacher will return to form at his age (I’m not saying he won’t, just that it is a question). Until we see consistant effort from Tommie Harris over an entire season, DT is still not settled either.
I hope he is wrong, but I can understand anyone being hesitant until some of these things are answered and/or proven false, so I can’t argue too much with his ranking for the Bears. I don’t agree, however, that the Pack and Vikings should be that high, especially if Favre doesn’t return.
Less respect given
means the team will ultimately exceed national expectations. 9-10 wins should be attainable even with a tougher schedule. Will it be enough to make the dance? Possibly.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
20-22 is just about right with the question marks on this team.
I think Green bay defense is likely to come back down to earth this year. They have question marks with their pass rush, secondary, and outside protection at both tackle position. I just don’t see super contender with that team at all.
by Dominique Blanton on Jun 15, 2010 12:10 AM CDT reply actions
This Analysts Say.........
Bears finish as a top 10 team and are a Wild Card making it to the playoffs out of the NFC North. And no, I am not one of the most respected one’s in the Country.
Well with a prediction like that ....
… you should be !!!!
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jun 15, 2010 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions
This morning on WSCR
he said the top 6 are elite, the bottom 6 all are crap, and the teams in the middle are all capable of 10-6 or 6-10 depending on how things go
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 15, 2010 9:41 AM CDT reply actions
Pretty sure Rick is related to Jon Gosselein.
We all know what an “expert” he is.
22nd?? I doubt it. I suspect we will be a TOP 12 team in 2010. We still have many many question marks, but we will be at least a 10-6 team this year.
Gone are the predictable play calls on offense, the half-assed pash rush attempts, the geezers on the ends of the line. This is 2010 baby, the Bears WILL be a FORCE in the league.
Expert, HA !! , an expert douche.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jun 15, 2010 11:07 AM CDT reply actions
Too low
I really believe that the ranking is to low!!!! I feel that we are definately playoff bound. The real test will take place in the first 5 games, if we can come out with a winning record from those first 5 games than we will make it through the season on a high note.
by NorCalBearsFan on Jun 15, 2010 11:41 AM CDT reply actions
What makes the Bears better than a bottom 10 team?
The QB last year led the league in interceptions in a conservative offense. In Martz’s system there is a lot more risk in his packages. The RB position was bolstered with someone on the wrong side of 30. The wide receivers did little to answer questions last year, yet we are expecting them to rise out of nowhere this year? The o-line is still in shambles with only LT and RG having positive VORP.
The d-line added Peppers, but in doing so let two quality starters leave, and I’m not too high on Mark Anderson. The tackles should be average. Urlacher has been hurt on a regular basis his entire career. He is getting older and we’re expecting a resurgence?the LBs are the best position group on the team, other than special teams. I still have very little faith in the secondary.
Ladies and gentlemen, this Bears team is in the correct area in the ratings. We could argue a spot or two in either direction. Gosselein is pretty spot on in his rankings though. I’m not saying it’s impossible that the Bears will go to the playoffs, but from a realistic point of view, the only Chicago teams playing in the middle of January will be in the United Center.
Well
Chester Taylor might be on the wrong side of thirty but he has been sparingly used since 2006. The wide receivers were pretty good last year in my opinion.Shambles is a really strong word, Olin Kreutz was playing with bone spurs last year those are fixed now so he should play better. Omiyale will be better at his natural position. I wouldn’t call Adewale a quality starter. Marcus Harrison should have a break out season. Ray Lewis still plays at a high level why cant Urlacher?
I wouldn’t call Adewale a quality starter.
-Same
by GriggsBriggs on Jun 15, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
that he will have a pretty good season because the defense as a whole will perform better than last year.It will also be his third season in the league which Harrison compared in an interview to his Junior year in college where he started producing more.
Yeah
Hopefully he can make the most of his practice snaps with J Pep, and doesn’t come fat to training camp like he did last year.
by GriggsBriggs on Jun 15, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
If THarris appraoches what he was not so many years ago
whoever lines up beside him at the other DT spot will look good.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jun 16, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow, your glass isn't just half empty
it is dirty, cracked and there is a fly floating in it
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jun 16, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
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Stupid babies need the most attention!
by David Taylor on Jun 16, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Lots of Unknowns
We all have seen the prejudice to ranks the Bears as crap, over and over again.
What we have is Upgrades on paper, and we should be all able to agree, onfield and paper are two totally different stories.
We have a whole new O system, many state it takes 3 years to fully implement. We have coaches and a GM who have to be feeling the heat. Some thrive under pressure, some collapse. A young WR corp and a ProBowl QB who struggled last year.
Add all that together and we have unknowns, so in the reporter world, it just add more room to rank us down. Thats OK though, hopefully they will prove them all wrong and we will continue to laugh at their "expert"ness.
Expert 's Ratings.
Before pre season ratings are fun but they can’t rate heart , guts or injury. All of the mentioned really determine where a team will place in the league. Oh , and luck !
I’m more excited about Chester Taylor than Matt Forte. When I compare optimum performances of each – it’s Chester’s quick line hits into the D backfield that win out.
For sure the other teams in our division got more depth in the talent draft. But none of them got an obvious Julius Peppers in the draft. We got HIM. What we need is to keep everybody healthy -which is nuts due to the nature of the game. They’re are our soldiers of game. But they are also human beings. Remember our Gale Sayers , Dick Butkus , Wally Chambers , Doug Plank ,Jerry Aszumah , Dan Hampton . . .a long list of injured players NOT to be forgotten. So let’s not take our present guys risks for granted.
Well,
Last year sports illustrated predicted us to go all the way to the superbowl against the patriots, and you know how that, and many other “expert” predictions for past seasons have played out, so I beleive it’s not in our best interest to fret over these things, and just wait and see.
Oh my goodness
I just read that guy’s entire list. Bloody hell, it’s an absolute pipe dream…
-Come on, Tennessee in front of Pittsburgh, San Francisco and Philly?
-He called the Bengals a contender… That guy just deserves a smack in the face for that…
-The Jets at 10??? Who cares that Thomas Jones is gone? They still have a excellent defense which is better, Greene, a RB on th rise, and Sanchez who has handled his role perfectly.
-Houston at #9? Hmmmm, maybe not.
-Vikequeens at 6? I’d say reasonable, but take into account that the williams wall is one year older, and a 40 year old qb can only do so much magic. Who do they have to replace him? No one. Gerhart is good, but i doubt he’ll be able to fill Chester’s shoes immediately, and with the way AP likes to cough the ball up on 3rd down, watch out!
-How on earth is SD at 5th? This team is inches away from falling down the toilet, mark my words.
-I like Baltimore, but still, draft picks are never for certain.
-At second, wade phillips better watch out because a few scrapes, a couple tears, and some words by have the his daycare in shambles. Although I do like Dez Bryant.
-The Colts I agree will still be beast, but no team is invincible → ’07 Patriots
This just in - Gosselien Predicts Daley loss in the Democratic Primary!!
Hand the man his Ass Hat.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jun 16, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions






















