Who will be the BIGGEST name NOT to make the 53-man Roster?
by ChicagoMarine on Jun 22, 2010 11:33 AM CDT
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Kevin Seifert of ESPN answered a pretty interesting question in his daily NFC North blog this morning:
Who do you think will be the biggest name to NOT make the 53-man roster for each of the NFC North teams?
I thought this would open up some interesting discussion for the 2nd day of the week.
I think we can rest assured that it won't be any "NFL big-names" like Brian Urlacher or Jay Cutler cut from the squad, but players who have a certain status or have unrealized potential on this team are the ones in question. SOme of those players would be:
Rashied Davis: With the odds on favorites being Devin Hester, Earl Bennett, Johnny Knox, Devin Aromashodu, and the possibility of a 4th tight end on roster (which hasn't been done in Bears past), its easy to see that there is a battle at the WR position for a 5th and possible 6th receiver spot on this team. In my opinion a lot of factors play into that battle. Those include the tight ends, the safeties, and the running backs. Rashied Davis might be one of the most disliked Bears on roster, but he has produced on SP/Ts. He also excelled in the slot position in 2006, which is where one would believe Martz would play him. He has decent route running and championship experience to back his special team prowess.
Kellen Davis: Coming out of Michigan State, Kellen Davis was a guy that many Bears fans saw could possibly be a book end tight end with Greg Olsen. He combined freakish size with exceptional athleticism. The problem was that he was raw and had played various positions at MSU. In his first couple years, he really lacked aggression and blocking skills. He had a decent 2009, where he caught 3 TDs. His size is hard to dismiss and you can't "teach" that, but with 5 TEs on roster one can say see this not working out if he doesn't pick up blocking fairly quick.
Al Afalava: Kevin Seifert writes...
... After starting 13 games last season, Afalava seems to have fallen off the map. Last week, general manager Jerry Angelo mentioned five players while discussing the Bears' safety position. Afalava was not among them.
He showed promise in last offsseason, but does that carry over after all the transactions in 2010?
Garrett Wolfe: Is the Garrett Wolfe finally over? I've met Wolfe several times on the weekend in Chicago... Nice guy, but I can't see how he remains on roster year-to-year. Perhaps, it's a matter of him being a 3rd round draft pick on a draft [2007] that has yet to produce a bonafide success (Please, lets not call Olsen a "success" just yet). With 4 remaining picks in that draft class, perhaps Angelo and Lovie are hoping that Wolfe still has some untapped potential in his tank.
These are just some of the possible names.
Who do you think will be the surprise of the 2010 offseason roster trimmings? Why?
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Peyton Manning.
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I'd argue
that Peyton Manning is still the bigger name than Drew Brees. People who don’t follow football know who Peyton Manning is.
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This guy has an even bigger name
Brandon Manumaleuna
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 24, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
The Bears opened last year with 4 TE's on the opening day roster
and my guess is they’ll do so again… with Manu playing more the H-Back stuff, with Olsen doing some of both, and with Davis learning some H-Back as well
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 22, 2010 12:09 PM CDT reply actions
I forgot about Michael Gaines two months on roster.
Good catch!
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jun 22, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Good post by the way
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 22, 2010 12:10 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This could be the first time...
that Garrett Wolfe finishes the biggest at something.
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by David Taylor on Jun 22, 2010 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The Cuts
1. Rashied Davis………..gone
2. Garrett Wolfe………on life support
3. .Desmond Clark 50/50 to make the Roster.
me too
always thought he could be an impact player
by Sound_Automatic on Jul 11, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Dickerson on Afalava
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4665066/mailbag-wright-off-to-encouraging-start
“Afalava is facing a numbers crunch at safety because right now, he’s definitely behind Harris, Manning, Steltz and Wright on the depth chart. If the Bears decide to keep five safeties, that last spot should boil down to Afalava or Josh Bullocks. Even though Afalava is cheaper, Bullocks probably is a better special teams contributor, and that may be the deciding factor. Plus, Bullocks has plenty of experience and performed well at the end of last season. It may be a tough call, but I’d probably lean toward keeping Bullocks over Afalava. This is not meant as a knock against Afalava, who played admirably after being thrown into the fire last year as a sixth-round pick, but I think Bullocks is more valuable at this point of his career”
For me, a dark horse candidate is Hillenmeyer. If Pisa’s healthy, and Roach/Iwuh/Shaw all younger and equally versatile, it’s a possibility. He provides good depth though, so I wouldn’t put big money on it, just a thought.
I think that Hunter makes the cut......
mostly because he was the guy on the roster that was best able to fill in mentally for Urlacher. Nick Roach was a disaster at MLB. Williams was only slightly better, and is gone. Shaw hasn’t proved anything in this league outside of special teams, and neither has Brian Iwuh. With Williams gone, and having been through the disaster of losing both Urlacher and Pisa last year, I can’t see how the Bears, in good conscience, let Hillenmeyer slip away.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 22, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I think disaster is a bit harsh
and with more seasoning will be better than HH hands down. He is more aggressive and explosive than HH. I am tired of seeing HH make all his tackle 5-6 yards down field.
"He is remarkably bright", a "terrific talent", the sky is the limit for Cutler"
-Mike Martz-
if they cut HH
which Vandy player will they pickup to maintain the required number of Commodores on the roster?
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by lookingdeadred on Jun 23, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
They get a one-player exemption
for Chris Harris’s wife.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Hillenmeyer stays.
He can play middle and Strong and will be used on SP/Ts. A “thinking” LB on a team that doesn’t have many LBs who can make sure all players are lined up where they need to be.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jun 22, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with you and T-Train's thoughts generally
but I would point out that he is on the wrong side of 30, and the staff seems to think relatively highly of Roach. I don’t know if it would be a good decision from the perspective of depth and backing up Urlacher, but it’s not out of the question, just look what happened with Alex Brown…I think it would be around a 1.5m savings here.
by PrincetonCubs on Jun 22, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Age? true...
… But, he is an experienced LB that understands the system well. If (and I’m knocking on wood this is NOT a possibility) Urlacher was to go down, Hillenmeyer could stabilize the LB unit and provide leadership on defense. Also, the LB unit without Hillenmeyer would be pretty thin and would lack the athletic/tackling type a SP/T unit looks for. LBs are a big part of SP/Ts because of their skills sets.
Besides, there really aren’t any contracts or FAs that the Bears have to tie up. A LG would be nice, but there aren’t any worth pursuing at this point. So, the savings you get from Hillenmeyer’s modest contract would deplete the talent you have on roster.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jun 22, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
there may be someone they want to pursue after camp cuts
for which 1.5m could come in handy. And while I agree the LBs would be worse off without HH backing up, a crew of Urlacher/Briggs/Pisa/Roach/Shaw/Iwuh is not that thin, and is still actually very athletic (athleticism not being what HH brings to the table.) The latter three guys I think are already or could be superior special teams contributors. But again, I agree, I’d rather have another guy with a high game IQ on the roster, but then again, I thought we should have kept Brown too.
by PrincetonCubs on Jun 22, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I disagree.......
with the assumtions your making that Iwuh and Shaw have something to contribute to anything but special teams, my friend. They have very little experience between them as LBs, and both have served as STers exclusively. Roach and Hunter are the only backups with any in game experience. And we all saw the disarray the defense was in with Roach serving as the Mike. I cannot see the team releasing HH in an uncapped year to save 1.5M. Not after what the Bears lived through last year.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 22, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and Brad Biggs also....
noted that Iwuh “won’t help out the defense”.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 22, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with this
Cutting Hillenmeyer would indicate that the coaching staff has enough faith in Shaw and/or Iwuh coming in to replace Briggs, Urlacher, or PT/Roach. I don’t have that faith at all. What Hillenmeyer lacks in athletic ability he makes up for with his knowledge of the system and where everybody should be lined up at any given time. Shaw and Iwuh can make our ST’s the very best in the league, but I’m not comfortable with either starting at any point in the near future.
If anybody from above list is cut I’d bet it’s Afalava. I’ll admit he was decent last year as a sixth round rookie, but all the love he got on this site was a little much IMO. Clark stays for his leadership and accountability. Rashied and Wolfe stay b/c of ST’s play and the fact they can contribute when given PT. Kellen Davis stays due to his potential.
Aw man I shot Marvin in the face.
When we're talking about backup LBs
they aren’t expected to contribute that much on defense, except in an emergency situation. The defense was definitely shafted with Roach in the middle, but it wasn’t exactly top notch with Hunter there either—he’s a smart player, but he gets blown off his gap on running plays all the time.
If the Bears cared about the uncapped year and maintaining depth on D, Alex Brown would still be a Bear, so I don’t think that’s the best reason either.
But again, I agree, I don’t think there’s even a moderate chance of it happening, but it’s not out of the question. Just bringing it up to spark discussion (which it did, so…good!)
by PrincetonCubs on Jun 23, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
agree with everything you said.....
except, as a backup, I think Hunter brings more to the table than Alex Brown, though Brown is definitely the better athlete. But Brown was also was going to save the $10M by cutting him. Hunters whole 5 year deal was only worth $13M. So it’s kinda a stretch to compare the saving you would get from cutting Hunter for the savings you get cutting Brown. Hunter is a cheap backup value, for his level of quality. Brown was not.
Other than that, I agree with the rest of your assessment.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 23, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I enter this thought into the fray, as well......
It seems like every year, hunter and Rashied are predicted gone, yet every year they remain. I haven’t read a single thing that points to Hunter being in any danger. Iwuh was noted by Brad Briggs as being someone that the Bears brought in to finally replace what Ayanbadejo brought, so I would bet, if a LB was to go, that it would be Shaw, if Iwuh lives up to the BA billing, and Iwuh if he doesn’t.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 22, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't say I'd read anything to suggest he was in danger
just talking out loud. I don’t think it will happen either, but it’s not the craziest thing either I don’t think..
by PrincetonCubs on Jun 23, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't suggesting....
that you had, and the post was really more directed at the community than at you, my friend.
Sorry for the confusion. Probably would have helped if I had been at least a little bit clear on that point, huh? lol……..
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 23, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
hahaha
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 23, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Ouch!
That was pretty rough Dane! Just an opinion bro you don’t have to agree with it.
He was just joshing with you...
because you said something about one of his ex-Tigers.
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by David Taylor on Jun 23, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
And because
he hates people in general.
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but sensed Dane CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!! HAWKEYES RULE!!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
I wonder if anyone's ever been banned...
within the first week of becoming a writer before?
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by David Taylor on Jun 23, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
We shall see.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
how did steltz move ahead of afalava?
by Sound_Automatic on Jul 11, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
good question
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~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 12, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Dane sat the GM down for a good talking to about Steltz......
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 12, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Dane must have incriminating pics of Angelo and or Lovie
to make that work
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~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 13, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions
next OSS?!?
on second thought, maybe not.
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by David Taylor on Jul 13, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Afalava.....
I like Al, but wiht the changes this year, the fact that he isn’t being talked about in the mix, the injury he suffered, and the fact that Al Afalava isn’t much of a ST contributor, I think Al has seen his last days in a Bears uniform. Wolfe and Rashied Davis are more valuable because of their ST contributions, The Bears DID take 4 TE’s into the season last year, and this year they may not be taking a FB into the season, so I think both Clark and Kellen Davis are safe, as well.
It amazes me how much people undervalue ST contributions. Rashied Davis and Garrett Wolfe have been a part of this team mostly because of those contributions, and the Bears have enjoyed a top ranked ST unit for a long time because of those types of decisions. Yet Tim Shaw and Brendon Ayanbadejo both have or had solid followings, even though neither is a starting class player. I don’t get it. Davis has contributed more in his career outside of ST than either Ayanbadejo or Shaw, yet is somehow considered less valuable by the same people who are talking about how we need to be worried about injuries to Hester, Bennett and DA? What about Injuries that really should be concerns?
If this is truly the argument people believe in, then shouldn’t Tim Shaw be the first to go? No NFL starts……ever. And last year, Urlacher and Tinoisomoa both missed the season. So why are the same people who are up in arms over Davis being kept as a 6th receiver because of his ST abilities, not up in arms over Tim Shaw?
Anything can happen, but I would honestly be surprised to see Wolfe or Davis exit.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 22, 2010 2:19 PM CDT reply actions
BTW....
Nice post, Marine!
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 22, 2010 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Wolfe
Has produced whenever given the opportunity and is a better special teamer than Bell, for these reasons he stays.
also was in the right place
at the right time to get an easy st touchdown against the queens a couple years ago during that scorefest game.
because he is a local guy, i am pulling for him to somehow stay with the bears this year.
by reefermadness3 on Jun 24, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure any of the TEs go...
because the Bears are not likely to carry a true FB, but rather use that spot on a 4th TE. Think about who’s more useful to the Bears, Kellen Davis, Des Clark, or Will Ta’ufo’ou. We’ll see how that pans out. My guess is guys like DJ Moore, Steltz and Bullocks are fighting for sports come late August. K Bell and Wolfe is a bit of a toss-up, but at 3rd RB in a pass happy offense, it probably makes little difference. If Wootton pans out, Melton is gone. If I had to guess, I would say Gilbert is the “big name” who ends up on the outs. I know it seems too soon, but he’s really under impressed me with the little I’ve seen. He seems to be a bit slow and hesitant. Maybe he needs time to develop, but this coaching staff seems hell bent on proving Tommie is still “the man”, which may just spell doom for Gilbert’s chance to get the time to develop. IMO, Izzy is better and there is enough talent at DE to move Izzy inside.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
I think it all depends on how the WRs shake out.
I believe the cut is somewhere in that group of talent.
We all know that Hester, Knox, A-Ro, and Bennett will be there, but the remaining receivers on roster are in a competitons for that 5th (and possibly 6th) receiver spots. I think that Greg Olsen will be used more as a TE/WR than a “true” TE, so I think he takes a receiver spot. I think it then comes down to Davis and Iglesias. Both of which will HAVE to be able to play SP/Ts as they will be a 6th receiver on roster. If both play well, then I think both remain on roster and you will see Al Afalava escorted out as the Safety position has Harris, Wright, Manning, Steltz, and Bullocks. If one doesn’t adjust to SP/Ts, then you will see that player cut and Al Afalava on roster. If an injury were to occur to Des Clark, then I think he is cut. If Garrett Wolfe doesn’t pick up the offense well, I see him being a casualty.
Semper Fi
Why is Davis so irreplacable on special teams?
Can Al Afalava and some of the other “bubble” players not learn to play special teams?
I Agree JimmyMack
Everybody is describing Davis like he is some kind of Phenom on Special Teams. I haven’t seen it.
The point is.....
that obviously the bears staff, and specifically Dave Toub, have seen it. And given the success that Mr Toub has had in his field…..I’m inclined to defer to his better judgement.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 23, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you think it's possible
That Toub simply “likes” Davis because of his experience, leadership, etc. Most coaches tend to have certain “favorites,” that they are comfortable and “familiar” with.
My point is, if special teams are not the 1st priority (the reserve players, not the starters are expected to play in this area), how difficult can it really be to learn?
Remember Brandon Ayonbadejo? We seem to have been able to survive since he moved on…
good point
no reason to believe that the Bears could not find suitable ST replacement players if they decide to cut RDavis and Wolfe.
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by lookingdeadred on Jun 24, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I think they probably could.
But we’ve already lost a big ST’s performer in Peterson this year. I’d just hate to keep plucking away from one of our current strengths.
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by David Taylor on Jun 24, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think it would be that hard to replace special teams guys
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by lookingdeadred on Jun 24, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
But the point is.....
That those roster spots are generally reserved for players who are ST contributors first, and backups second. If it were so simple as to just train players for ST, and they would all be Tim Shaw, then why is it general practice around the league to reserve spots for players based on special teams ability?
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 24, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I actually don't.....
I think Dave Toub has constantly fielded one of the best ST units in the league because he is both a very good coach, and because he actually evaluates talent for special teams as opposed to keeping players over favoritism.
And thank you for bringing up Brendon Ayanbadejo. He was a fan favorite here, as is Tim Shaw. Neither are starting caliber players. Ayanbadejo is entering his 8th season, and he added over $1.3M to the Ravens cap last year for a guy who is at the bottom of the depth chart and very seldom sees the field on defense. Adrian Peterson was never expected to start here in Chicago, and neither is Garrett Wolfe. But they maintained roster spots based on ST ability. Why are these players kept? I’m pretty sure that if the competition for RB comes down to Wolfe v. K Bell, Wolfe will win based on his ST contributions, unless Bell improves on special teams. And this is the way it works all over the league. A player who is a ST standout will always get a roster spot over players with slightly better backup potential.
Why not cut Mannelly? Des Clark is the backup long snapped and he is definitely the more valuable player, outside of special teams. If it comes down to Clark or Mannelly, who should the Bears cut? Because special teams players are more valuable than 6they are being given credit for here.
A couple of article written on this very subject….
Fan post from NinersNation that explains it all quite nicely
Article from the Washington post with coachs’ quotes about the issue.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 24, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I do not diminish the importance of special teams
but if KBell is a significantly better RB than Wolfe, they keep KBell and not Wolfe. If another WR is significantly better than RDavis, RDavis gets the axe.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jun 25, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
History disagrees, my friend, as far as your last line is concerned.....
Of course “significantly” is subjective. If by significantly you means starting quality, then I doubt Bell would be in the position in the first place. The Bears wouldn’t pay 3 starting caliber RBs. There isn’t, IMHO, enough of a difference between 3rd tier players to merit keeping one who is “significantly” better, but still third tier, over a player who is more of an all around contributor and also third tier based solely on the divide between the players at the specific position.
BTW, my reply was in direct response to Jimmy, and was based on his reply to me. But, to address your topic line, I’d suggest that you post that i did reply to above made it hard to tell that you do not diminish the importance of special teams. For a team that is still trying to replace Ayanbadejo, and that is willing to bring in LBs (Iwuh) that they seem to know will not contribute to the defense in order to fill that hole, it seems as though maybe it is a bit more difficult to replace special-teamers, especially those of the Pro Bowl variety. It would also seem to indicate that they place a larger value on special teams contribution for a certain few slots than they place on the ability at the position.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 25, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
kellen davis
is my pick, assuming angulo can stay on the field this year.
It would shock me
but I could see a scenario where they still trade Olsen. If they feel set at TE and some other team has injuries during training camp I could see a trade being made if the price is right. And don’t forget to spayed and neuter your pets….
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
If you trade Olsen
I don’t think you take anything lower than a starting-caliber O-lineman or another “need” position that can help right away. Given the “win now mode”, sense or urgency that Lovie is in, I don’t think you even entertain a 1st round pick for next year…
That said, it would be a shocker if they decided to move Olsen.
What he said......+1
Not that this isn’t about endorsing Olsen, but about the urgency that Angelo and Smith must feel about winning now. I can’t see then trading for the future. The only way I see any trade made is if it helps the team right now, such as the Harris/Williams trade. Carolina got better for the future, and we got better in the now. That is the only type of trade I see happening here.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 26, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
In that case
The ravens are bidding off Jared Gaither who is an elite tackle at either side which if traded for Olson would go ways to make the O-Line of the Bears solid and make the Ravens have their elite TE for passing situations.
I like Olsen.....
But I would take that trade instantly. IMHO, it all starts at the line, and I see acquiring proven linemen, on either side of the ball, as being every bit as important as acquiring a QB (though admittedly a little easier).
………..But I just don’t see it happening, as Todd Heap is one of the best all around TE’s in the league, and ranked #2 overall, and #7 receiving by PFF.com last season. I just don’t see them trading Gaither for a position they are stable in.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 6, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Breaking news !
The USDA approved the sale of " Lion Meat " real lion meat grown on an Illinois farm to be sold on a limted basis during the World Cup . I might be a Vikes fan . But that’s some funny stuff .
Kellen/Clark are dead even . A mini- Farve / Rodgers dillema based on the choices . Urlacher is the obvious choice . Urlacher like our Pat Williams are coming to the end of their careers . Though Pat after surgery is more productive and playing at a higher level . Both are proven leaders . There isn’t a better LB leader than Urlacher over the years including Ray Lewis . Ray had killed more guys off the field I’ll have to give him that .
Are you suggesting that.....
Urlacher is the obvious choice for the biggest name that will not be on the 53 man roster? Really?!? Seriously?!?!? WOW…..just wow.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 27, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I pity the fool
And I can’t make sense of his jibber-jabber.
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I understand his leadership qualities .All my compliments start with , "In the day ".
Is he really finally healthy ? We had Culpepper as a QB . Please here me out . He was azazing in his day . The day before three ligaments destroyed the real Dante . Pep tried to sucker the Vikes into 10 Million a year . We didn’t bite . I was bitter . I was wrong .
Brian did sucker the Bears into a big contract . No incentives , just straight up moneys . Ya you could win the arguement that his contract didn’t hurt the team . Because your team until this year didn’t commit money to succeed . Brian in the day was an animal . Peppers is their to soften the blow when he goes . Do I want Brian to go in a Brett kinda way . No ! Brett’s been to 5 probowls in the last 5 years . Where was Brian ? Easy ? I think he’s finally healthy enough to play is his calling card .
No offense on this one but even the greats gotta go sometime . The real question is ? With Jammar gone can you afford the luxery of letting him go . So keep him . After the first Vike game I won’t even taunt you on this one . Truth is simple and without explaination some times !!!!!!
I was going to write a nice response to this, but......
just the inane premise that Brian Urlacher will be the biggest name not to make the Bears 53 man roster speaks volumes by itself.
Wishful think on the part of a Queen……..
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 29, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Is It Boring These Days?
In Purple People Eater land? I would agree that it is time for Brian Urlacher to put of or shut up. A lot of Bears fans disagree with me on this one but my patience as a fan is being tested to the limit. I have a pay for performance mentality.
Must be since a troll is garnering so much attention
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~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jun 30, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
psst...
they don’t like him over there either
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 1, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll take your word for it
but I will not feign surprise.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 1, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
If you did, though,
I’d expect you to say “Whhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?” and turn your head in a really dramatic fashion.
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