The Bears Den: 25th of June, 2010 Edition
Most importantly, from Brad Biggs' twitter:
The 1st training camp practice for #Bears at Olivet Nazarene University this summer will kick off 5 weeks from today. Countdown is on.
Bears' Cutler no fan of 18-game schedule plan - Understandably so. When you're constantly the target of large men who hate you, I wouldn't be particularly jazzed about that, either.
Bears' Tice upbeat about offensive-line options - Let's hope they bring the ruckus, Wu-Tang Style.
Caleb Hanie is likely to be the Bears' No. 2 quarterback. - Caleb Hanie is likely to remain in the same spot he's been in. It's obviously a hot news Friday.
5 Bears' lessons learned heading to camp - Things that have been learned, things that have been good, things that have been bad. Also, the Bears are very excited.
Ex-Bears CB Walt Harris signs with Ravens - Go him. The Ravens should be tough this year.
Hint of Favre's return? 'I would love to go beat the Saints,' QB says - And I would like to see the Vikings and Favre get beaten in the first game. I say 98% chance of seeing Favre, 50% chance of seeing them get beaten.
Best Rams Team Ever: 1999 - In case you need a reminder of how potent the Martzfense can be.
Hahaha, wacky! Plus, it's funny if you substitute cocaine for coke in your mind:
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I'm not really worried about LG
I think between the 3 guys battling it out, and with Tice’s knowledge, I think who ever wins the job will be ok
"When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." ~ Dick Butkus
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 25, 2010 9:10 AM CDT reply actions
I'm with you.
I really think that last year’s meddling really made the O-line unnatural and uneasy.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jun 25, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
My concern going into TC?
Defensive backs!
I think if healthy, Zack Bowman will be a fine NFL corner, but Charles Tillman (bless his heart) just never has been what I would consider a “cornerback” by NFL standaards. He’s always been a better tackler and uses that ability to create turnovers. However, his covering skills (or lack of) have always left me wondering how much more effective he would be at safety.
I understand “why” he doesn’t want to move to safety (e.g.— Cornerbacks get paid the big contracts), but if the Bears were to have moved him to safety back in 2007, I think he could have been the replacement desired for an oft injured Mike Brown that JA had been looking for.
Semper Fi
really?
Peanut Tillman is a top 5 coner in this league
Saying anything negative against Peanut is like commiting blasphemy
by suckmyditka on Jun 25, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope this was said sarcastically:
Peanut Tillman is a top 5 coner in this league
He might be good at stripping the ball, but his coverage skills are quite lacking.
I like Tillman
I’m not sure I’d go top 5…
But the few times the Bears asked him to play man to man on 1 player he’s done ok… It’s been a few years, but when he’s giving that damn cushion it’s hard to lock down anyone. Even Dion Sanders would get beat playing 8 yards off
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 25, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with Dane
I don’t think Peanut was ever a top 5 corner. He’s great at getting turnovers but he’s never been that shutdown lock down corner that is a gamechanger. I guess when our team is used to having average players we annoint them as great when in reality they are just good. I just hope he is able to come back this year and stay injury free for once. You hear that Steltz.
BearNecessities you're my assistant, okay you're supposed to
back me up and go get me juice boxes when I tell you. Now go get me
a juice box.
by Ditkavsworld on Jun 25, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
The Legend of Charles Tillman
…. Great person, sub-par covering corner.
Would be a better safety.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jun 25, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
i think he was highly regarded as a cover corner
for a few years based largely on grabbing the ball from randy moss in the end zone back in ’03. like you said, great guy but he has gotta be wearing down a bit with all the injuries and whatnot.
by reefermadness3 on Jun 25, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
His rookie year was a whirlwind!
He came on fast and strong in a time where the Bears really didn’t have much to cheer about.
I, too, thought he was going to a cornerstone covering corner on the Chicago Bears. I think he benefited from having Mike Brown and Chris Harris behind him in the safety position and that’s why I think putting him on the blindside with Chris Harris over the top (a la 2005 season) you might see an improved Peanut.
I think he still should have made the transition to FS a few years ago. He has a knack for breaking up completions, tackles, and causing turnovers— all the characteristics of a good safety.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jun 25, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Your Tillman expose is a little harsh
He was never a poor cover corner. He was a good cover corner , not great, but good for a stretch. His strength was playing physical and creating turnovers. But I think injuries and age are catching up to him and his coverage abilities are fading. But with a pass rush he is serviceable for now and hopefully one of the youngers guys can step in the next year or two.
"He is remarkably bright", a "terrific talent", the sky is the limit for Cutler"
-Mike Martz-
I respect your opinion
Tillman isn’t a bad player. He is a good corner, but not a great one. He was never a no. 1 corner and there are articles written about Peanut’s play during certain years in the NFL (i.e.— CHFF wrote a good piece on the number of targets Peanut took in 2006 compared to his counterpart Nathan Vasher; no. 1 corners shouldn’t have a high number of targets).
All I’m saying is that he is a sub-standard covering corner, but an excellent tackler and creator of turnovers. He would have been a heckuva safety, but dollars influenced his decision to stay at corner.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jun 28, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree and yet disagree
Peanut is a great cover and is more physical yes. He is past his prime w/ injuries but i beleive he has been one of the better corners one the bears. He was a pro bowl Alt. Last season but couldn’t go w/ that rib injury. I wouldn’t put him top 5 at all. He’s more of a top 10-15 i think though.
jumped the gun on this one...
Week 16: Bears 36, Vikings 30 (OT)
Brett Favre cranked up and made one more impossible throw, zinging a touchdown pass in the fading seconds. Too bad for the Minnesota Vikings, that merely put them into overtime. After Favre’s stunning, fourth-down pass to Sidney Rice with 16 seconds left in regulation, Jay Cutler threw the game-winner to Devin Aromashodu with just over 9 minutes left in overtime.
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Stupid babies need the most attention!
by David Taylor on Jun 25, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
by far the best game
in a sad season; it’s the only one i still have on my dvr from 2009. watched the good parts maybe 20 times by now.
i wonder how many others here (besides myself of course) repeatedly view some of the great bears games of recent memory, like hester’s 2 return td’s against the donkeys in 07 or the frigid ot win against the pack in 08.
by reefermadness3 on Jun 25, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I got off a plane that night
and had to listen to the radio streaming through the sprint nfl mobile app on my piece of arse phone.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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I like to fire up the ‘85 Bears episode of America’s Game every week or so…..
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
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that is some
true commitment. i like it.
by reefermadness3 on Jun 25, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I get a massive boost of pleasure hearing the Giants coach say what he says in 2006 (quoted in my sig.), and also what Singletary said his front seven said to him when he pointed out they didn’t need to kill the opposing QB. Better than any drug.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
If Hanie is the Bears backup QB
they have to keep Cutler healthy
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jun 26, 2010 11:10 AM CDT reply actions
Backup QB
Yeah, I thought JA should have signed a veteran too. QB is too important a position not to have the necessary depth.


























