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The Bears Den: July 13, 2010

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 "Taylor, we've run out of timeouts. Go in there and get hurt".  -George Halas

Former BYU running back Unga getting interest from many teams, including Bears.

Biggs: Three key questions for the defense this season.

Matt Forte wears a Dodgers hat and talks about the upcoming season.

Danieal Manning at SS and Corey Graham at Nickel according to Jeff Dickerson.

A brief mention that Woodney Turenne could end up being the #3 CB on the team.

This article lists the Bears as one of the biggest offseason winners.

Barf.

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Only a Viking fan would make a trip to Mississippi by choice.

Normal people would come to the state to see where a true icon was born… who you ask we’ll I’ll tell you….

If Mike Ditka punched you in the face, you'd have to fight off the urge to thank him.

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 13, 2010 8:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Not sure if anyone is interested in the following news but I figured I post anyway
From ESPN New York

New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner has been hospitalized and is in serious condition, according to multiple reports.

According to the reports, Steinbrenner, who celebrated his 80th birthday on July 4, was taken to the hospital after emergency crews responded to his home Monday night.

If Mike Ditka punched you in the face, you'd have to fight off the urge to thank him.

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 13, 2010 8:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Update:
George Steinbrenner died Tuesday morning, a person close to the longtime New York Yankees owner told The Associated Press. LINK

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Stupid babies need the most attention!

by David Taylor on Jul 13, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

BREAKING:

Steinbrenner just fired Billy Martin.

by Dane Noble on Jul 13, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

6th time is the charm.

If Mike Ditka punched you in the face, you'd have to fight off the urge to thank him.

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 13, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know

How many times he fired – and then re-hired Martin?

by JimmyMack on Jul 13, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

12 and one half.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Jul 13, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

5 Times.

If Mike Ditka punched you in the face, you'd have to fight off the urge to thank him.

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 14, 2010 5:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Three Keys to D: Giving $20 million to Peppers

I try not to equate the dollar amount to sign a free agent to the players productivity. You certainly can make the argument that there is a correlation, but there is also a thing of “supply and demand”.

Peppers was the best DE in 2010 FA and has consistently been a pass rusher for the better part of his career. The Bears and several other teams lacked a “consistent” pass rusher in a league where a pass rusher is a top 3 position on a football team.

Negotiations started and the dollar amount that outbid all other suitors was $20 million+. Is that an extreme amount of money to pay? Yes! But, did the Bears need to bring in a player at the position? Yes. And they went after the player with the HIGHEST CHANCE OF SUCCESS.

That doesn’t come cheap.

What Brad Biggs needed to question was not the price of Peppers contract, because what level of productivity would be worth $20 million dollars? 8 sacks? 15? I don’t think so…

… What he needed to ask was does the addition of Peppers increase 1.) the number of pressures on the opposing QB and 2.) the total number of sacks in 2010 in comparison to 2009.

Price has no bearance on a difference maker if it improves your teams production.

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Jul 13, 2010 10:00 AM CDT reply actions  

I don’t necessarily think that 15 sacks, or even the total number of sacks…even though usually they will be parallel with this next bit, but wins will determine worth.

If we look back on the next 2 or 3 seasons, and find ourselves having sat at 11-5 or better, I would consider the Peppers signing a success, regardless if he had 2 or 20 sacks, and the rest of the team as well. That’s what Briggs needed to ask… do we as a team win more games because of Peppers

He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers

by BearNecessities on Jul 13, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

That’s my point above, BN. How does he improve your team’s overall production?

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Jul 13, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

IMO: The Bears secondary will be the biggest "question mark" in 2010

Over the past 5 years, the Bears have been able to win football games with average (Orton) to subpar (Grossman) QB play, inconsistent offense, and stout run defense.

What has always impeded their production has been the pass defense.

Although the defensive line has had it’s dry spells at times, the secondary has been on the decline since 2006. Injuries played a big part in that, but the depth has made that area an ever growing eye sore.

I am hoping that both Bowman and Tillman can remain relatively healthy for the better part of the season and that the use of depth underneath them (Graham, Turrenne, Jennings) doesn’t have to be utilized.

Also, I have big hopes for Daniel Manning and Major Wright. One (or both) really needs to step up and be the players that JA and Smith projects them to be. They have tremendous speed and athleticism which would be so useful to a division with 3 really prominent passing offenses.

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Jul 13, 2010 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

If the pass rush is not improved, the DB play will not be either, CHarris or no CHarris.

And the key to an improved pass rush (and DL play in general) is not Peppers but THarris. He needs to be close to what he was just a few years ago for the Bears to be a good defense again.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Jul 14, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

How the heck

can Turenne win the 3rd CB job when Graham is better, and has had an excellent off season? I guess good depth is a great problem to have.

Jeff from Cleveland wrote- I've figured out the moral of the story: Stay in school. Wade: 3 years at Marquette, Bosh: 1 year at Georgia Tech, the kid from Akron: no college. The most educated guy convinced his dumber friends to come play on his team for less money.

by propheteer on Jul 13, 2010 10:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Can we please see them in pads

before they anoint someone #3 CB

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 13, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

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by David Taylor on Jul 13, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If it's a competition

over hair, then Woody will win hands down.

Jeff from Cleveland wrote- I've figured out the moral of the story: Stay in school. Wade: 3 years at Marquette, Bosh: 1 year at Georgia Tech, the kid from Akron: no college. The most educated guy convinced his dumber friends to come play on his team for less money.

by propheteer on Jul 13, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

woodNey! WOODNEY!

I’m not sure why the superflous ’N" but honor his Mama damnit!

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Jul 13, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

In pads

actually covering and hitting someone

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 13, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

someone's being picky!

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by David Taylor on Jul 13, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woodney was WAY overrated last year

I did see some promise, but I’d like to see him play against someone other than 4th quarter preseason scrubs. Of which he couldn’t cover.

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 13, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, he played with the 2s a lot.

He made some great tackles… unfortunately is was all on WRs that had beaten him on routes.

by Dane Noble on Jul 13, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't remember him in any preseason 1st halfs

I hope he is a player, he has nice size and physicality for the position

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 13, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought the same thing

Would it be that Graham is the #1 nickel and Turenne would be #3 CB?

by rdent4hof on Jul 13, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Strike two.

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Stupid babies need the most attention!

by David Taylor on Jul 13, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I lovehate Lou.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Jul 13, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice, I didn’t notice the Halas quote yesterday… good thing I check new comments.

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by Spongie on Jul 14, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

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