Bears Draft RB Harvey Unga in 7th Round of Supplemental draft.
Someone will have to be cut to fit him on the 80-man roster. Wolfe and Bell might want to dust off their resumes.
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1st!
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 15, 2010 1:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Not only will someone have to be cut,
but don’t we forfeit a draft pick next year?
by boondock_saint812 on Jul 15, 2010 1:40 PM CDT reply actions
Does that mean no 7th round Olineman???
Maybe JA can trade away a 1st rounder so we can still get our man in the 7th.
If Mike Ditka punched you in the face, you'd have to fight off the urge to thank him.
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 15, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Good pick up at a ...
… great price . This kid could be a great goal line back for us this season . Sorry Bell / Wofle one of ya’s gotta go now .
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Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 15, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions
Well we need a big back to run ....
…. our famous fullback dive .
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 16, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IslHdkd9pD8
Is it me,or do the Packers really suck???
by I love football! on Jul 15, 2010 1:44 PM CDT reply actions
Very nice!
He might look good enough to make the team. He’s got something none of the current RBs on the roster have; real size and a blue-collar style.
Jeff from Cleveland wrote- I've figured out the moral of the story: Stay in school. Wade: 3 years at Marquette, Bosh: 1 year at Georgia Tech, the kid from Akron: no college. The most educated guy convinced his dumber friends to come play on his team for less money.
Well...
He does have a good record as a pass catcher, too… My first thought was “#3 or 4 RB AND our starting FB” but I have seen a couple knocks on his blocking strength. Apparently he has good technique but not enough “pop” to play FB. Guess we will see. Either way, he is a tough between the tackles runner who can catch and at least delay a blitzer….So why do we have Wolfe again?
by Brendan Hess on Jul 16, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Short yardage
will be his speciality. Even if he doesn’t fit well into the scheme, he’ll provide the Bears an option on the goaline and 3rd/4th and short.
Jeff from Cleveland wrote- I've figured out the moral of the story: Stay in school. Wade: 3 years at Marquette, Bosh: 1 year at Georgia Tech, the kid from Akron: no college. The most educated guy convinced his dumber friends to come play on his team for less money.
Some info on Unga:
RB Harvey Unga: BYU (6-1, 244)
2009 stats: 208 carries, 1,087 yards, 5.2 yards per carry, 11 touchdowns
Career stats: 696 carries, 3,455 yards, 4.96 yards per carry, 36 touchdowns
40-time: 4.65
Short shuttle: 4.51
Three-cone drill: 7.41
Vertical: 35 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 6 inches
More...
Looks comfortable out of the backfield and knows how to catch the football and create a play out in the flat. Now, he isn’t an elite receiver, will struggle to adjust to the football off his frame and isn’t the most natural pluckers. Was split out at times in the BYU offense, but isn’t a real impressive route runner when asked to separate from linebackers in man. However, he does have a bit of a feel of where to sit down into coverage and find throwing lanes toward the quarterback.
Impression
He’s built like a fullback, but he strikes me more as a single-back type runner in the NFL. Isn’t real dynamic and isn’t a guy who I want starting for me as an every-down type runner in the NFL. But as a physical No. 2 guy who can win in short yardage and goal line sets and wear down opposing front sevens, he’s your man.
He could be a fullback too…what’s Martz got up his sleeve here?
by Mike Mueller on Jul 15, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
probably nothing.
It was probably just a JA Lovie pick that he had no imput in.
Another question mark?
Big, but not fleet of foot. Goal line? Probably Lovie and JA see him as a TE or maybe even a Middle linebacker, LOL!!
Is it just me or does this mob just fall in love with a guys abilities and then spends the next year or so trying to figure if this DB is a WR or this TE is a slot receiver or if the DE is really a DT or if the C is a LG or if the LG is a RT or if the RT is indeed a LT etc. etc. ad nauseum!!
Are you really
complaining about a 7th round pick on this guy? He could be a nice change of pace for Taylor and Forte; his bruising style will fit in well where the Bears struggled mightily- short yardage game.
Jeff from Cleveland wrote- I've figured out the moral of the story: Stay in school. Wade: 3 years at Marquette, Bosh: 1 year at Georgia Tech, the kid from Akron: no college. The most educated guy convinced his dumber friends to come play on his team for less money.
To be fair.....
The word is that he ran the 4.65 injured. Seems he can run in the 4.5s when healthy, though that’s according to his agent, so it’s to be taken with a grain of salt……
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 15, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Sprained Ankle....
at his 40, so his time was legitimately on the low end of his real speed. He was talked about be some scouts as a 3rd-4th round prospect before the whole academic ineligibility thing came up.
by Brendan Hess on Jul 16, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
So he ran a ....
…. 4.65 with a bad wheel ?
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Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 16, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
4th CB on the depth chart...
But seriously…I’d actually say the FB dive might work with this kid
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Jul 15, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
In the Martz system
a single back set with 2 TE’s is an option
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 15, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm curious
How we got him with a 7th rounder. I read 20 teams tried him out and everyone expected him to go for a 3rd or 4th rounder.
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The 3rd Round Talk
Was coming from his agent. Overall though I think this is a great pick up. AP has been following this guy for awhile.
by Spiderwomn69 on Jul 15, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is Adrian Peterson
following this guy around?
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by Kev H on Jul 15, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Adrian Peterson....
Is following this kid around, I’d have to assume that it’s because he was trying to follow someone who can actually run-block for him…………….
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 15, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Value for the Price Paid
I like this move as it only costs the Bears a 7th round. Does he take the place of a fullback or a running back? Or, do the Bears take the chance and try to stash him on the practice squad?
Unga
He might be good competition for an ST spot, but I think he has an uphill battle to make the team. Martz’s playbook is very complicated and he’s joining the team late. Might be a practice squad and activated if someone got hurt. I’ll admit I don’t know all that much about him, but he sounds like a good prospect down the road.
Sounds like Jerry just had to
Like an addict, trying to quit. He just could not stand having ALL the picks next year.
Not real sure what they do with him. Put him on PS and can’t other teams sign him? Put him on the team and it looks like he will struggle to compete.
by TheMan1 on Jul 15, 2010 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Nice.
Like an addict, trying to quit. He just could not stand having ALL the picks next year.
Very nice.
Don't students who go to BYU have to do a missionary somewhere?
by boondock_saint812 on Jul 15, 2010 2:22 PM CDT reply actions
not sure.
probably a hotel room to keep it on the low-low.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 15, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha
In a press release issued by BYU last spring, Unga and basketball player Keiliani Moeaki (Unga’s fiance) announced their withdrawals from school to work on personal issues and because of an infraction of the honor code.
by boondock_saint812 on Jul 15, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
I believe you are correct…she recently gave birth to their child.
by boondock_saint812 on Jul 15, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Fantastic!
Well played indeed.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Guess this is alright now that I look into it more
He voluntarily withdrew from school due to “honor code” – which includes sex, tobacco and alcohol from what I remember. Also his girlfriend withdrew at same time (leading me to believe it was the sex part) but c’mon, who didn’t do those in college. Shoot we have athletes killing each other and shooting up who knows what anymore.
He was expected to have his break out year (3,500 yrds in 3 years) and needs a breakout year? Plus wasn’t he predicted to be a top 10 back or something before this last year.
Finally, 2 thoughts, we have all our picks (knock on wood) except 7th next year. And will we really miss anything with Bell or Wolfe?
I think not
And will we really miss anything with Bell or Wolfe?
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 15, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
so long wolfey
another training camp hero.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 15, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I think assuming Wolfe being the odd one out...
is wrong. Bell did ok last year when given the opportunity and had that one big run (his firt NFL touch I think), but Wolfe has embraced ST and turned into the best ST tackler on the team. With where they’ll be on the depth chart, that’s what will make the difference. Bye Khalil. Good pickup for the price.
"We can do it any way you want to. We can go right out back and get it on or you can shape your ass up," Da Coach
I don't disagree about Bell
But I’d have trouble saying that Wolfe is a better tackler than Shaw. I could be wrong though…
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Boondocksaints812 - "You named her Bitch?!? Did you train her to lie down when you run towards her too?"
Ok
2nd best.
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by droppopotamus on Jul 15, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I thin Iwuh....
Would beat out Wolfe in that category too…And maybe Steltz since its all he is good for.
by Brendan Hess on Jul 16, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
thumbs up
Seems like a decent pickup to me. A three-time thousand yard rusher in college, physical back who has at least above-average catching ability for a man his size.
Given that we picked him, I am guessing the coaching staff already has plans to cut one of the guys currently on the roster. The Bears might be dumb but I don’t think they are dumb enough to use a supplmenetal 7th rounder on a player they expect to fail to make the squad. So either they saw him as a value worth more than a 7th rounder (who is going to make one of our current backs “no longer needed”), or else something they have seen—or not seen—out of one of our current guys this spring has them worried.
will he stick?
With the liklihood of us carrying 3 QBs, 4 TEs, and 7 WRs this season, it’s highly unlikely that we’ll carry 4 RBs. Forte and Taylor are obviously staying. That leaves Bell, Wolfe, and this new guy battling for that 3rd spot. I think Wolfe sticks because of his Special Teams value (plus Wolfe is really our only change-of-pace back out of the bunch).
Barring a RB injury, I see Unga being stored on the practice squad or on injured reserve.
Change of pace?
He never plays, so I guess we don’t like change of pace, or think it’s not worth it….I do like his ST play though
by Sonicbob on Jul 16, 2010 12:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Whether he makes the team
Or is put on the PS for a season, PLEASE leave this guy at tailback. Don’t put him at TE, or H-back, or Fullback. That’s only diminishing his skillset. He is a very fluid runner and he doesn’t look at all like a 245 lb. man when he has the football in his hands.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
Bye, bye Bell
Contrary to mythical thought here on WCG, he’ll be gone after training camp is finished. One play does not a running back make.
Jeff from Cleveland wrote- I've figured out the moral of the story: Stay in school. Wade: 3 years at Marquette, Bosh: 1 year at Georgia Tech, the kid from Akron: no college. The most educated guy convinced his dumber friends to come play on his team for less money.
Even if it was a realllllyyy good play?? =p
Is it me,or do the Packers really suck???
by I love football! on Jul 15, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
one play for a bad team in a nothing season.
if he earns it, great, but i expect Unga to replace him. I still like Garrett Wolfe, his repeated ability to come from off of the screen and make a touchdown saving tackle on special teams has endeared him.
Wolfe
has too much upside, speed, and special teams prowess. He makes the roster hands down along with this guy (most likely), Forte, and Taylor.
Jeff from Cleveland wrote- I've figured out the moral of the story: Stay in school. Wade: 3 years at Marquette, Bosh: 1 year at Georgia Tech, the kid from Akron: no college. The most educated guy convinced his dumber friends to come play on his team for less money.
One possibility is that Wolfe ends up on the PUP list to start the season
He had a very serious injury last year. Because of the lacerated kidney, the Bears could put Wolfe on the PUP list giving them 6 weeks into the season before deciding to cut him, giving an injury settlement, or put him on the active roster if there are injuries to other players.
by Mike Mueller on Jul 16, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 15, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I know for a fact
many teams were looking at him, so they could of stole a great player for a 7th rounder.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
The fact is:
Many teams might have had a look, …. but the fact is, … They All Passed, … No??
However, I’m OK with a “7th Round Flyer” on this guy. We’ll see his stuff in camp :)
Go Bears!
Unga bunga?
This guy just screams “Jim Kleinsasser wanna-be”
Won't we get a 7th round pick back anyways?
If Kevin Payne makes it to the final Rams roster?
by MetalGearPeaceWalker on Jul 16, 2010 2:31 AM CDT reply actions
7th for Kevin?
I hope you heard that from a good source!
Payne is close to a lock for making the Rams 53 cut :)
Seems like we got the short end of that trade.
A safety with starting potential for a 7th rounder? Rams will have a good set of safeties with Atogwe and Payne. We traded away a guy in Williams with starting potential for Chris Harris, and traded away another for a 7th round pick. On of these things is not like the other……
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 16, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
The Bears brass
pounded his value into sand last season.
Jeff from Cleveland wrote- I've figured out the moral of the story: Stay in school. Wade: 3 years at Marquette, Bosh: 1 year at Georgia Tech, the kid from Akron: no college. The most educated guy convinced his dumber friends to come play on his team for less money.
Bingo!
Chicago was able to get a 7th round pick for a Safety that the Rams will start and the Bears were going to cut.
The Panthers were able to get a starting caliber linebacker for a safety the Bears will start and the Panthers were going to cut..
I’m not saying that Harris and Payne are equal. But the situations are interesting, and I think speak to the competency of the respective front offices.
Look at what each team in these trades did.
The Rams got a starting player for a pittance.
Carolina got a young linebacker with a ton of potential that many thought would be starting if he wasn’t stuck in the Bears linebacker corps for a player they were going to cut.
The Bears got a pittance for a player that they were going to cut but the Rams will start, and gave away a young linebacker with a bright future for a player that was going to be cut anyways.
Again, I’m not saying that the Bears were robbed, or that I wouldn’t have made either trade. I am just saying that, if you look at the transactions, while the Bears might not have gotten screwed, there seems to be some indications that the Bears didn’t exactly play the game masterfully.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 17, 2010 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions
The way I understand it, Harris was going to be cut
but his agent was able to get a bit of value for him instead. Same with Payne… we were going to cut him, and his agent (same agent as Harris) was able to get a bit of value for Payne.
Yeah....
It’s not like I think the Bears got robbed. I was just pointing out something that seemed a bit funny to me. And maybe a bit of an example of the abilities of the respective FOs. The Panthers were able to get a guy, in Williams, that they will be able to start at some point. The Bears were only able to get another 7th round pick for Angelo to throw at another project offensive linemen or wideout. Granted, Harris has more credibility than Payne. But Payne still has starting credibility, and will start in StL.
But it’s not like my panties are in a twist over it. At least the Bears got something for a guy they were going to cut anyways. I just find it funny that the Bears traded away one starting caliber player (Williams) and got Chris Harris and another starting caliber player (Payne) and got a 7th round pick.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 17, 2010 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm totally fine with the Chris Harris trade
Even if he was cut…there’s no certainty that he would’ve signed with the Bears if a better offer was out there.
Besides, I imagine a Chris Harris/FS with Daniel Manning/SS or Major Wright/FS with Chris Harris/SS is a lot better than what we had last year.
by MetalGearPeaceWalker on Jul 16, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm more than fine with the Williams/Harris trade.......
Maybe I didn’t make myself entirely clear. I was using the Williams/Harris trade as a comparison. In that trade, we traded away a potential starter for a current starter. In my mind, the Bears and the Panthers both got equal value. The Bears got the more immediate fix, while the Panthers got a long term solution.
In the Payne trade, I see the Rams getting a starting safety for a 7th round pick. To get a starting safety, the Bears gave away a linebacker with a very bright future (IMHO). Now, to be fair, Harris is a lot better safety than Payne. I’m not going to deny that. But I would have thought the Bears could have pulled a 5th rounder for a player with starting cred.
But I’m also not losing any sleep over the issue. It wasn’t that big of a deal, IMO. I was just pointing out something I saw.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 17, 2010 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Meh...I was hoping for a 6th rounder for Payne
This season has been weird in terms of player value…never would I thought a year ago that Boldin and Marshall would be dealt for 2nd rounders.
Also, I hope Chris Harris is a long term solution himself…the guy is 27 years old; compare that to Darren Sharper who’s pushing 34.
by MetalGearPeaceWalker on Jul 17, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually wasn't surprised by Boldin.....
He’s a 30-year-old (in October) receiver who is tough as nails………but he’s benefited from a pass heavy offense where he was the #2 receiver behind arguably the best receiver in football and with a solid #3 on the field who might be a better receiver than he is (Breaston), and he has been plagued with injuries. We’ll see whether Boldin is the same receiver in Baltimore, but I think he will not be as productive as some expect him to be there. That’s not to say he isn’t a good receiver. He’s about as tough as they come across the middle and has decent hands and speed. But is he a real #1 receiver? I don’t know.
Marshall, on the other hand, was stunning. A second round pick for a guy who is one of the top 5 receivers in the game? I don’t think he’s the second best in the game, as I’ve seen some claim (I’d be hard pressed to place him ahead of Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald or Megatron, who would be my top 3, in that order), but he’s definitely elite. The Dolphins stole Marshall. But that seems to be the way it’s going this off-season. I’m starting to wonder if Owners don’t already believe there will be a lock-out next year, and are undervaluing players because of it.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 18, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Donovan McNabb too
I guess it can be argued that a 2nd rounder was fair and appropriate value for him. But damn…you’d think the Eagles would’ve found a taker OUTSIDE of their division.
by MetalGearPeaceWalker on Jul 19, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Finally! Some size at RB!
I’ve been begging for a Michael Bush trade for a couple years…. Unga will do.
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What is the rules for Practice Squad?
I know other teams can sign players from other teams PS, but I figure there has to be many regulations and ways around that.
With as much interest as he generated (20 teams at workouts), I can’t help but figure someone would sign him away to at least stash him on IR or something id we stash him in PS?
He'll be signed away if he goes to the PS
He’ll be on the active roster, or he’ll get “injured”
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 16, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Good write-up on PS
And yes, I have to believe some team will sign him away if we stash him away with as much interest as he generated. Plus it appears the only reason he went to supplemental draft is that him and his soon to be wife had sex, ohhhhh the horror, so he had to withdraw from school. But with using a next year pick on him, I doubt they let that happen.
That's exactly how I see it........
With both Unga and LaFevour. Redshirts both……….
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 17, 2010 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Unga's role on roster
Maybe a 4th RB. I agree with everyone who said Wolfe is too valuable to cut. I just can’t see why a 3rd round pick (even it’s from 07) wouldn’t be useful to this team. Let’s not forget we had a guy calling plays for him who did not kniow what his strengths are. (Let’s run the 5’7" guy betwen the tackles…that only meant I yelled at the TV more) but Unga seems a lot like a Brad Muster type of player-can block, but can run really well between the tackles also.
+1 for the Brad Muster comparison.....
And I really hope that the comparison holds true.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 17, 2010 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions
How bout Matt Suey?
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