The Bears Den-Friday the 2nd of July, 2010 Edition
by Kev H on Jul 2, 2010 7:25 AM CDT
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NFL.com news: Coach says Favre back throwing to high schoolers in Mississippi - If I'm the Quarterback for this team, I'm pissed that Brett Favre comes in every summer and takes away my reps.
NFL.com news: Vick says he wasn't involved in shooting; cops don't rule out QB - I hope he wasn't involved, but it's hard to believe him when trouble follows him wherever he goes.
NFL.com news: NFL reveals four-game ban for White, eight-gamer for Thomas - The NFL continues to crack down on people. Unless judges in Minnesota won't let them.
Cutler vs. the Vikings (game 2) --Let's hope this become a twice-yearly occurrence.
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in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 2, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
How is Coryell not in the Hall Of Fame
He’s been so influential on offenses
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 2, 2010 8:26 AM CDT reply actions
Pretty much all they take into consideration with coaches is winning and Super Bowls.
by BigGeorgeTX on Jul 2, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
exactly
hard to elect a coach who never won a league title
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 2, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he'll be elected now that he's gone and people realize his influence
It might take the Bears going to the superbowl with an Air Coyrell offshoot offense!
Doubtful
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 3, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
Lester.
I’m actually old enough to remember Coryell’s Cardinal teams and remember Metcalf tearing up defenses with short passes out of the backfield. Hopefully Forte and Taylor can do the same.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
Thise Charger teams were real fun to watch
Fouts was a heck of a trigger man for that O
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 2, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
When you revolutionize the game
you deserve to be in the HOF. Period.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jul 2, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Bears-Vikings
I remember watching that game on Monday night and then again that week when NFL Network showed it again.
It’s one of the reasons I have so much optimism for the Bears this year. In this game, all phases showed what they could do.
Not a huge fan of
Bears giving up a 4th quarter lead, AND 30 pts…but yea, it was almost a great full 4 quarters of play
We’re gonna be a pretty violent bunch. ~Lance Briggs
by BearNecessities on Jul 2, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Defense will be better
by having Pepp, healthy Harris, and improved secondary.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
Here's what gets me every time I think about it.
If the Vikings win that game they get home field throughout the playoffs. They BARELY lost to the Saints AT New Orleans. I really believe it was the Bears who kept the Vikings from a Super Bowl bid last year and GOD does THAT feel wonderful……
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
D.A.?
Why is he not our unquestioned #1 receiver?
Sure
But Cutler has lobbied for him since he came. He has the size, speed, and hands from what I’ve seen. Maybe he can’t run routes or something, but when he’s been in he’s proven himself.
by Digs D-League on Jul 2, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Should've been slightly more tongue in cheek (Actually agree)
But there are enough questions, such as…
- 7th round pick
- first real time making an NFL roster
- released from, I believe, 3 other teams?
- played four games last year
If he does stick as the #1, wonder what changed for him.
by Steven Schweickert on Jul 2, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
finally getting a chance on a team that
doesn’t have reggie wayne, dallas clark, and I think even marvin harrison at the time
We’re gonna be a pretty violent bunch. ~Lance Briggs
by BearNecessities on Jul 3, 2010 6:25 AM CDT up reply actions
The Dolphins in 2006 (draft team) didn't have Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark and Marvin Harrison.
Marty Booker, Chris Chambers, a young WR/PR/KR named Wes Welker and two guys named Cliff Russell and Derek Hagan. Linkers
And really we should be calling him by his full name. Gbolahan Devin Aromashodu. Yes I did have to c/p the first name.
by Steven Schweickert on Jul 4, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You're killin' me here.
I just recently learned how to spell/say his last name… now this?!?
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Stupid babies need the most attention!
He was also on the Colts practice squad
Marty Booker, Chris Chambers were proven as well, to be serviceable at least, and Wes Welker, last I checked has been pretty good himself, so it’s actually quite easy to see why he may have been overlooked.
He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers
by BearNecessities on Jul 6, 2010 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions
At that point...
Booker was starting to show as over the hill, and Chambers has mostly fallen off the map in the last couple years. At least on that squad he could’ve cracked to #3 on the chart; definitely more opp. than in IND.
Yes he was on the Colts’ squad, but it’s not like he was behind them for a long time. He’s still young and can still learn. I’m just saying that it’s not like he was behind the Colts WRs while he was in MIA.
by Steven Schweickert on Jul 6, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
+1...
he is the best all around WR on the team, IMO. He catches well, has good speed, good height, knows how to go get the ball and knows how to get separation. My only guess is that he’s a bit thin at 6’2" 200lbs. He might be prone to injury at that size over the course of the season. IMO, there is absolutely no reason I can see why he’s not the starter at WR. I like Knox and Hester and Bennett, but each of them has less polish in one area or another. Hester needs to run better routes and recognize his coverage reads better. Knox has to learn how to use his body position and go after the ball more aggressively. Bennett is a good possession guy, but he can’t really outrun many CBs. These guys compliment each other rather well and 3 and 4 WR sets are going to create some serious mismatches. It’s probably less important who “starts” in this offense.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
Here you go
Michael Wright’s take on the WR starters….
LeRoy (Gary, Indiana)
I say this is the year Devin Hester breaks out as a No. 1 receiver, if he doesnt do it this year then he is never going to do it. Actually, I like the other Devin much better as a receiver than I do Hester. I think Aromashudu can flourish. What do you think?
Michael C. Wright (1:25 PM)
LeRoy, I agree with you. I’ve been saying the same thing. At this point, Devin Aromashodu appears to be the most polished of all the receivers. I don’t even think it’s close.
This is from a guy that has seen most of the OTAs and minicamps.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
1985 Bears = best Bears' team ever?
certainly the best in the “modern era” that is for certain.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
modern era
prehistoric era, any era… Best Team Ever
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 2, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
One of the best I ever saw
but the teams in the pre-TV days get short shrift
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 3, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
1940 Bears were dominant, and featured Sid LuckMan, Danny Fortmann, Bill Osmanski and George McAfee, and dominated the Washington Redskins 73-0 in the championship game and won the NFL All-Star game (where the champs took on the leagues all-stars) by the largest margin recorded in the games 5 years history. There were some truly great teams prior to the modern are that don’t get the recognition they deserve.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 4, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
That Bears' team gets a lot of hype because of the 73-0 title game blowout
but they lost three games that season which is why I went with the 1941 Bears instead. They had one loss, won the title and outscored the opposition by 249 points, an amazing number for that era.
The 1942 team was by many standards even more impressive, going undefeated in the regular season outscoring the opposition by a ridiculous 292 points, but I left them out because they lost the title game to the Skins. All of the teams I chose were champs, because you do not deserve mention as a best ever team if you did not win it all.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 5, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
The '85 team had the best defense ever. The offense was OK, but I remember how many time the defense would turn the ball over and the offense couldn't score.
They finally got it together at the end of the season, but the defense is why they dominated. The only reason the offense was rated so high that year was that the defense kept getting turnovers on the opponents end of the field. There were even games the defense outscored the offense. If the Bears could have been more consistant on offense the 80’s Bears would be the dynasty of all dynasties, definitely 84-87, instead of the champ for one glorious season.
Didn’t the offense carry the team early on in the season? There were a couple of games where they had to fight back from a deficit, though I don’t know if they were responsible (by failing to stay on the field).
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
Steeler fans would disagree
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 3, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Your response makes no sense to me.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
My post was supposed to be a reply to BigGeorge not to you
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 4, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
That would be why, then – I thought I was missing something there and it made me all sorts of confused.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
Steroid users would disagree.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Nope......
Didn’t happen. The defense never scored more points than the offense in a game. The D score 4 INT returns, 1 Fumble Return and 3 safeties during the season. The offense did pull the defenses but out of the fryer early in the season. Game 3 in Minnesota is a good example. Week 1 against the Bucs, also. And the one loss the Bears took, the Offense scored 24 points, but the defense gave up 38 points.
The defense was truly great, and definitely the strength of the team, but the offense did it’s job as well. Additionally, the Offense gave up only 2 points that season while the defense scored 41. That’s a 39 point differential in points off of turnovers.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 4, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
If the 86 team had won the Superbowl
it would hands down be the 86 defense that was remembered as the best ever.
He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers
by BearNecessities on Jul 6, 2010 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 6, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
forgotten but definitely better…..
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 6, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
and a lot more don't
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 3, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
assuming you are one of those people
who would you pick for best team ever?
by reefermadness3 on Jul 4, 2010 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Can't say I have one
since it is so hard to compare teams of different eras. There are lost of teams that merit consideration:
1940-43 Bears
Brown’s Browns
Lombardi’s Packers
the Steel Curtain
Walsh’s 49ers.
If you are talking about only one season:
1941 Bears
1950 Browns (the 1948 team may have been better but was not in the NFL yet)
1962 Packers
1966 Packers
1972 Dolphins (although the 1973 team was probably better, unbeaten is hard to deny)
1975 Steelers
1976 Raiders
1979 Steelers
1984 49ers
1985 Bears
1989 49ers
1998 Broncos
2003 Patriots
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 4, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I love that list, though there are some notable exclusions.....
Like I actually think the 1940 Bears were better than the ’41 team. And I think the 1953 Lions with Bobby Layne and Doak Walker probably deserve a place on that list. And I would include the ’92 Cowboys, as well.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 4, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Unitas's Colts of the late 50s probably deserve a shoutout, too
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 5, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed....
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 5, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I watched the NFL network's Top 10 defenses all time...
They had the 85 Bears #2 and the Steelers from the 70’s #1. Everybody interviewed on that show said 85 Bears were uncontested #1!
they only put the steelers at no. 1 because they had that defense longer
the 85 bears are statistically better than any steelers team of the 70’s even tho back then a CB could pretty much punch a reciever in the balls at the line of scrimage and not get a flag. btw have u ever seen a fatter, more obnoxious guy then that Mark Madden steelers homer?
by Staleystan595455 on Jul 2, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
True, but the Bears were good defensively '84 and '86 also...
In ’84 they set the single season team sack record at 72.
Steelers won 4 Super Bowls
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 3, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
GG and I were watching
the Top Ten Elusive Runners… 3 Bears in the top ten (2, 6, &10) and 2 in the best of the rest. It was awesome! I definitely recommend catching that episode!
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by Ashley Czuba on Jul 2, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Video 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5SDGEhHCGg&feature=related
Video 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blUVhK_qY_U&NR=1
I’m glad it’s a long weekend.
Watch the following and it's the '85 Bears, no contest. Anyone who argues otherwise is delusional.
I think you’re right about the Steelers getting the knod because they have more players from their 70’s defense in the HOF, but Dent should make it this year.
Let's try again.
Video 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlvUWnCdYn0&NR=1
Video 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlvUWnCdYn0&NR=1
Video 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlvUWnCdYn0&NR=1
Video 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7lwQ0J4vN8&feature=related
Video 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlOjTfYlm-I&feature=related
People who have an opinion different from you are delusional?
Hopefully your tongue was in cheek when you posted that.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jul 3, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Bears vs. Vikings video
that video reminds me/reinforces that DA is our best WR.
That was one of Ron Turner’s best games as OC. His play-calling was excellent — most of those completions were to wide open WRs.
Our D was horrible in the 2nd half of that game. Hillenmayer saved the day.
regarding the D
Watch Tommie Harris that game…
He was damn good
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 2, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Bears vs. Vikings Video
One other point to mention. Chris Williams played an excellent game that night and leads me to believe that he could be an elite player at LT. Here’s hoping.
i am guardedly optimistic
he did handle allen pretty well with not much help overall but that was only one game. i am drinking the bear-aid on this guy though as i also believe he is going to be probowl level if he picks his game up a notch this season.
by reefermadness3 on Jul 2, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Bears vs. Vikings Video
Check out 4:03. One of the best parts of the video is Peterson’s dumbfounded look after DA scores for the win. You could see the “Oh crap…” all over his face. :)
RIP Don
Hopefully, Martz and the Bears offense will make you proud this season!
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
classic
If I’m the Quarterback for this team, I’m pissed that Brett Favre comes in every summer and takes away my reps.
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 2, 2010 1:28 PM CDT reply actions
OFFENSE
I am Extremely impressed with the offense in the video. The oline protected cutler very well, receivers ran great routes and made catches, and Cutler has a rocket for an arm. Imagine seeing this kind of play with improvement in their blocking technique and superior play calling. I’m looking forward to see their progression in the upcoming season.
Cutler
looked more in sync in the last two games combined than he did the entire season. That should bode well for ’10, because it sure looked like he was in a zone with his receivers in the Minny game. Less mistakes, and in total control of the offense.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
When he put up that pass for 'Roma in OT
I knew it was game over… what great feeling to have, and not one we had often last year
He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers
by BearNecessities on Jul 6, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Super Happy Fun Time
That’s what I put on students advanced make-up slips when they come around to find out what they’ll be missing in class when they know they’ll be absent for. Later I have all the other students claim we had a pizza party and I gave out all the answers to that days homework. It actually used to work.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
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