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Julius Peppers Isn't The Only Lineman Headed To The Pro Bowl This Year

That's right folks, I'm definitely sitting down for a glass of that orange and blue Kool-Aid on this one. On top of other such prognostications that are better suited for a drunken vagrant sporting a Ditka jersey outside of Soldier Field, such as my proclamation that the Chicago Bears will win the NFC North this year, I'm going to step my heavily marbled frame out on that willow thin branch again for the following statement. Tommie Harris is going to be going to the Pro Bowl this year for his stellar play, and is going to rekindle the faith of the Chicago Bears faithful not only in Tommie Harris the man, but Tommie Harris the player.

Follow me below the fold, where we will take a look at what Tommie Harris is, and what Tommie Harris will be, this coming season.

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Just so that there is absolutely no misunderstanding about what I'm saying, and so that there is no question about the flames or glory I'll be bathed in during the season, I'm going to restate my position in bold italic font.

*** Tommie Harris is going to play at a level not seen since the 2006 season, and is going to return to the Pro Bowl at the defensive tackle position ***

So, as the saying goes with great power comes great responsibility... actually, that may have been Spider-Man. Nevertheless, here are my reasons why Tommie Harris is going to return to form in 2010.

 

1. Tommie Harris is going to play up to the players next to him.

For the first time since being drafted by the Chicago Bears, Tommie Harris is going to have another legitimate pro bowler on the same defensive line. This can be easily dismissed by some by trying to point out the plethora of pro bowlers that are in similar situations, but Tommie Harris isn't other players. Tommie Harris has always been a somewhat soft-spoken guy, but a guy who wears his emotions on his sleeves. This is fantastic when he has that competitive fire, but can be terrible when he has entered in a downward spiral of doubt, and for lack of a better term self-loathing. You see, Tommie Harris lost something more than mobility when he went down in 2007, he lost his confidence, and he lost the feeling that he was playing with the best of his ability. He didn't feel right, he didn't have the exact same step he used to, and he didn't feel like he could carry the entire line on his shoulders if need be.

This isn't to bad mouth our linebacking corps, because they are one of the best at what they do, but they aren't exactly getting after the quarterback every other play. They are prototypical 4-3 linebackers, and they excel at that job, but the assist they give the line is in the form of more time to work more often than not. What this means is that without another elite talent along the line, Harris was consistently eating double teams, and trying to work through them. Of course, it didn't take long for Tommie or anyone else who has looked into hamstring injuries that even minor ones tend to linger and take away directly from that explosiveness that Tommie Harris was known for. If you can't trust yourself, then your team can't trust you. They can't rely on you, and well, it seems that fell pretty hard on Tommie.  He went from being that guy everyone thought of a team first hard worker, a guy who had an explosive first step and extremely agile to a plodding undersized lineman who got beat to the action, and then took that beating and just didn't get back up. However, Tommie definitely seems to be taking the off-season seriously this year if the pictures he posted to his Twitter account have anything to say about it. 

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This isn't the work of a man who is ready to forget about practice, argue with coaches, and get benched. This is the rebuilding of a man possessed, rededicated to his craft. Tommie Harris is ready to live up to his promise, and to play up to having another top ten lineman on his side of the ball.

2. Tommie Harris is going to be healthy for the first time in a long time, body, and mind.

His injury at the end of 2006 is consistently undersold both in severity, and the impact it has on any football player, let alone a player with the skill set of Tommie Harris. Tommie is all about explosiveness, that initial move both amazingly quick and unquestionably strong. It was that explosiveness and agility that made Tommie a first round pick. It's also the exact thing the dual injury of the torn MCL and torn hamstring robs from a player. The torn MCL, or grade three sprain depending on what article you read, first and foremost causes instability in the knee and without a doubt directly effects not only your agility, but the trust in gripping and exploding with that leg. The hamstring is an even more problematic problem as the hamstring is one of the most important muscles in the human body for an athlete due to its role in movement, even walking or running, but specially in sprinting or that explosive start or churning motion with the legs.

Even under the best of circumstances, a pulled hamstring can last weeks, and can linger even longer. One of the most annoying issues with hamstring injury is that since, in many instances, it's partially caused by an imbalance in muscle groups, the injury of the hamstring actually exacerbates the underlying problem making it more and more likely to re-injure the same hamstring. The only way to solve that is by strengthening the hamstring, which can't even be contemplated until the initial pull is completely healed. This gets even worse when dealing with a hamstring tear, like most associate with Harris, because the shelf time is often close to six months before work can be done. This long off time usually brings even more weakening of the muscle group, meaning that the player has to get back to square one before they can even attempt to address the initial problem.

Tommie has most definitely rededicated himself in the work room, looking to be in fantastic shape. This means a lot because his body looks to be where it needs to be, and if he thinks the same then that does nothing but build that confidence back again. Swagger is more than a new Madden stat, it's a real thing that players either have or they don't. You either know you can do something, or you don't. As much as we respect a guy like Hunter Hillenmeyer, no one is going to mistake him for Lance Briggs or Brian Urlacher anytime soon. However, when it's game time, Hunter doesn't think twice about going straight on a guy like Adrian Peterson. That's the self-confidence, the swagger, you have to have as a player in the NFL.

So with that self-confidence in his physical abilities restored, and his work-ethic rejuvenated to a large extent, that leaves us one thing. Reestablishing himself with the team as a worker, and a guy who is going to give 110%, and luckily for us Tommie has already done that in large part. Tommie Harris got sat out a game last year, and while there was quite a bit of petulant childishness that not only caused the initial benching, but in the aftermath as well, it undoubtedly caused Harris to grow as a man, and as a player. You look at the games before the benching, and after, and the difference is almost night and day. The motor was turned on, and remained churning the rest of the season, and apparently carried over into practice this year as everyone is saying the same thing.

This is the best Tommie we've seen in years, and if that's the case, this is going to be the worst season in just as many for the rest of the NFL.

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I'll say this...

you are definitely drinking the Blue and Orange Cool-Aid. But, if your prediction comes true and both Peppers and Harris make the pro bowl, there is no question in my mind we’ll win the division.

by The Kaiser on Jul 29, 2010 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Give.....

Me some of that kool-aid. He looks like he has lived in the gym all off season.

by Dozjah on Jul 29, 2010 8:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Does that Kool - Aid ....

….. include a shot of an " adult " beverage ?

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 30, 2010 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

winning the division is a stretch

you can’t even sleep on the Lions. Tommie does have a Motor, but the guy has some loose bolts. before anything else, he needs to get his head right.

The more I see that cover picture, the more angry I get.

You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.

by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 29, 2010 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

The more I read your post the angrier I get...

It’s no stretch to say that even the Lions look like a much improved team, but at the same time you are saying the Lions could be good, you are saying that my beloved Bears will be bad. 7-9, 9-7, 7-9 since the SuperBowl, and after 2007 I heard that we were a team in the decline, and predictions of only winning two games, and all the Lovie haters heard round the world… …I digress. My point: Realize that the cover picture is the old one, and the one’s lower are the new. That’s kind of the point.

by Higgins on Jul 30, 2010 3:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

If THarris is close to what he was in 2006

winning the division is hardly a stretch.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Jul 30, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think

Tommie will have his best year since 06, but probowl? one can only hope. how about Israel dropping some weight? i hope he can step it up this year, i don’t feel to comfortable with mark Anderson. maybe on third and long. what do you guys think of Wotton? do u think he’ll have a chance to make a impact at all this year? for the love of ditka i hope we win our division this year!

by 6to23 on Jul 29, 2010 9:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Wooton: two 'o's, two 't's..

..not really trying to correct you, he’s new, but just think you will want to know how his name is spelled, as I see him unseating Mark Anderson for the other DE spot by the end of the year.

by Higgins on Jul 30, 2010 3:28 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

That is a good possibility in the future

But, remember that Wootton is still coming off a significant knee injury (ACL I beleive), so he probably won’t be a 100% for a large part of this this upcoming season. We might see him get some snaps towards week 14-15 maybe. With more work alongside Peppers and Marinelli over the course of the next year, there’s a pretty high bet that he’ll be in the mix for the opposite starting spot I’m guessing next season realistically. It really all depends on how fast he progresses and plays compared to Anderson.

by GriggsBriggs on Jul 30, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is year 2 after his surgury

Last year at Northwestern he was slowed… hopefully he’ll be at full speed sooner than later

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 30, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good catch.

A rec for both of you!

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Jul 30, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

some one make it green!

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 30, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you are correct...

the Bears go to the SB. However, I just don’t have even 1/10 of your optimism. My money will be on the epic fail the will end his career in Chicago (probably in the NFL as a whole). He’s always a bit of a head case and while he’s probably as healthy as ever, he just lacks that sensibility that would channel his anger and frustration into pro-bowl play. That erratic streak is his biggest obstacle and I don’t believe he’s topped Mt. Crazy just yet. Let’s hope you can be making fun of these words in week 15, when the Bears are wrapping up home field advantage for the playoffs.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Jul 29, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow

That’s the first time I’ve seen those photos. I’ve never seen him in that good of shape. I didn’t even recognize him in the first of those two.

Colt's fan friend - "This is our dog, we named her after Peyton Manning."

Boondocksaints812 - "You named her Bitch?!? Did you train her to lie down when you run towards her too?"

by Acydikeen on Jul 29, 2010 10:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Me neither

Tracey Morgan looks buff in that pic, he must have been doing curls with Tina Fey on the set of 30 rock

by HasClothesLikeaDickhead on Aug 1, 2010 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

I say Tommie will be skipping workouts by next Tuesday. An undersized quick DL that has leg injuries is a DL that spends a lot of time on his back. I predict that Tommie will have more dirt on his backside than the front of his jersey.

by CastlemanXXXX on Jul 29, 2010 10:29 PM CDT reply actions  

295 pounds is not undersized

for a 1 gap penetrating 3 technique tackle. He would be small if the Bears asked him to be a 2 gap space eater

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 30, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jeebus.

That’s one big fella. Doesn’t look like he’s still weighing in at 295. LostInSTL, he sure looks in good enough shape to have reached the peak of Mt. Crazy and started back down. I’d say that the NFC North could be the toughest division this year and we’ll need him to even sniff the playoffs. GO BEARS.

by oripunk3485 on Jul 30, 2010 2:46 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree

But to be honest I have said this the last two years and it didn’t happen..

If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms.- Mike Ditka

by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Jul 30, 2010 3:28 AM CDT reply actions  

I love it!

You said Hunter has swagger!

Nice post, I agree Tommie will get it done this year…

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 30, 2010 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

That's the thing about HH...

The only two things he legitimately has going for him are football acumen, and swagger. He’s never going to be the most athletic guy on the field, and in fact he is out classed in that department on a regular basis. It just never enters his mind though, he knows what he has to do, and he goes to do it. No second thoughts, no hesitation, just driving towards his destiny.

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by Jacob Hayes on Jul 30, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

my first reply

i normally agree with you and this is no different. HH even though he slow as molasses he gets the job done. i see big things this year from the bears secondary but i think i would rather see chris harris line up at strong safety as opposed to free safety especially with peanut not being the fastest of our starters. JP is going to be Jp and thats going to make tommies job easier. the person im looking to step up and can hopefully avoid injury is my man pisa. pisa is an excellent cover guy and can also punish guys… his range and good hands for a lb are perfect in this defense…

by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Aug 2, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's some powerful Kool-aid!

And I like it!

Boy oh’ boy, the season is close!

by rdent4hof on Jul 30, 2010 10:58 AM CDT reply actions  

technically speaking

…the hamstring isn’t a muscle, it’s a tendon.
…Tommie didn’t tear the hamstring, the hamstring tore free of it’s anchor to the bone, there isn’t anything wrong with the hamstring itself.
…it was said by the surgeons at the time of the re-anchoring of the hamstring to the bone that it would be fine since the string itself was not damaged.

My thoughts are that the knee injury hurt Tommie’s performance more than the hammie problem, and also that his mind is a factor in his reduction in performance, and that Lovie cuts him too much slack and the dude does not respond favorably.

Go Bears!

"Do or do not... there is no try." - Yoda

by Maelvampyre on Jul 30, 2010 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

ohhhh...

Dr. Maelvampyre speaks!

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 30, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

not a doc

Just have a memory of what the surgeons said, not what the sports pundits said.

"Do or do not... there is no try." - Yoda

by Maelvampyre on Jul 30, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Technically speaking you are wrong

the hamstrings are the three main muscles of the back of the thigh: Semitendinosus, Semimembranosus and Biceps femoris.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Jul 30, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

thos are muscles

muscles that are attached to the bone via tendons called hamstrings.

"Do or do not... there is no try." - Yoda

by Maelvampyre on Jul 30, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrong again.

The muscle group is called the hamstrings. Don’t take my word for it, look it up yourself. Here are a couple of quotes from sites I found to get you started.

From one website:

The Hamstrings are actually comprised of three separate muscles: the Biceps Femoris, Semitendinosus and Semimembranosus.

These muscles originate just underneath the Gluteus Maximus on the pelvic bone and attach on the tibia.

The Hamstrings are primarily fast-twitch muscles, responding to low reps and powerful movements.

From another:
 Many people suffer with tight hamstrings. Most of the time they will not cause a problem but can be more prone to bad tears, may contribute towards injuries such as lower back pain and popliteus injury and also may be limiting your sporting performance. The hamstring muscles consist of the semitendinosus, semimembranosus and biceps femoris.

There are a whole bunch more sites you can check, but they all say the same thing, the hamstrings are the three muscles of the back of the thigh (quadriceps are in the front). Now as muscles they attach to bone with tendons, so it is very possible for a hamstring injury to include the tendon(s).

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Jul 31, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Granted, I'm not a Doctor...

But…

Technically speaking, people use the term hamstring both to refer to the muscles of the posterior thigh, and the tendons that attach them. It’s extremely rare that you hear anyone in the sports media refer to a biceps femoris tear, or refer to specifics in regard to tendon damage.

As far as Tommie’s injury goes, I’ve heard it referred to as a ruptured left hamstring, a torn left hamstring, all the way to a full blown avulsion. Never the less, even the info coming out of Tommie’s camp is that he was basically unable to move for two weeks following the surgery, and then couldn’t do much more than hobble around on crutches and sleep for the couple of weeks after that. That’s bad news, and combined with the knee injury that then required surgery again to remove the scar tissue which was limiting his use, and then again slowed him down, that makes strengthening that muscle back up tough going.

The saying goes that the off-season is to build you up, and the season is for tearing the other man down. When you don’t have that chance in the off-season to build that leg back up, you’re sure not going to find it during the season. He finally got that chance this year, and looks to be ready to come back strong.

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by Jacob Hayes on Jul 30, 2010 1:00 PM CDT reply actions  

lol reply fail

-1 point for me :(

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by Jacob Hayes on Jul 30, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

people use a lot of terminology incorrectly

Sports media included.
A tendon is a tendon. A muscle is a muscle.
Semantics. No need to get caught up in it at this point I suppose.
I heard/read all the same things you mentioned above regarding descriptions of his injury, but what I am referring to is what Tommie’s surgeons reported as the problem.
Call it what you want, he isn’t the same player.

"Do or do not... there is no try." - Yoda

by Maelvampyre on Jul 30, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

What I'm saying is two things...

One: I agree, he wasn’t the same player, but an avulsion of the tendon isn’t really any better than actual muscle damage, they both require significant downtime, which was made even worse by the concurrent knee issue.

Two: A tendon is a tendon, and a muscle is a muscle, but hamstring generally refers to them all as a unit, the tendons and muscles that make up the posterior thigh. The sports media does get things wrong, but using it to describe damage to the posterior thigh would be correct no matter if it was the muscle or the tendon that was damaged.

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by Jacob Hayes on Jul 30, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with your numba one..he isn't the same player

As to what is better or worse, an avulsion or whatever, that is a different topic as far as I am concerned.
I disagree on your numba two, in the specific case of Tommie Harris. The surgeons clearly said what the problem with his leg was and they specified the tendon attachment to the bone.
You guys are hot and heavy into citations. Here is one and it isn’t from the internet.
Gray’s Anatomy, 13th edition
pp 566-67
(see figures)
Clearly delineates hamstring tendons from hamstring muscles.
Because the talking heads choose to call them by a package terminology doesn’t make it right.

"Do or do not... there is no try." - Yoda

by Maelvampyre on Jul 30, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its like when a person says can I have a kleenex or do you want to play frisbee?

When what they really mean is can I have a facial tissue or do you want to play with a flying disc. And I pulled my hamicular tendon once. I didn’t know tendons could bruise?

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Jul 30, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yiour quote from Gray's proves your initial statement (hamstrings is a tendon not a muscle)

was incorrect. The hamstrings are a muscle group, and since all skeletal muscles include tendons to anchor the muscle to bone, the hamstring group would include the muscles and tendons.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Jul 31, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Since you insist on calling the hamstrings a tendon

you are in position to criticize another poster for not using terminology correctly. Get your own facts in line before popping off.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Jul 31, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

typo

Should read: you are in no position to criticize …

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Jul 31, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope that I'm wrong, but when I see these pictures I think of that old NFL saying

“looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane”

I also have to agree with oripunk, I don’t think he’s at 295 and that could be a big problem, not only in performance, but to stay healthy as well.

by BearFan611 on Jul 30, 2010 1:20 PM CDT reply actions  

wtf?

He’s obviously shed fat and gained muscle. I don’t see how that’s an issue regarding performance at his position or health wise. In fact it should be quite the opposite.

You're being very Un-Dude right now.

by IslandBoodler87 on Jul 30, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because really undersized defensive tackles don't usually make an impact in the NFL.

IF he is too light, he could be thrown around like the proverbial ragdoll which means he won’t be effective, won’t take pressure off of Peppers and the other DE, and the offensive line gets to Urlacher easier. Also, getting run over by O-lineman all game doesn’t make him more susceptible to injuries, then you’ve been watching a different game than I have.

by BearFan611 on Jul 30, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dropped fat,gained muscle

Which definately looks to be the case isn’t a detriment to a 3-tech defensive tackle. Even if he plays as low as 280 this year he’s still trying to play up to what got him to be so great seasons ago,an explosive,first step,get to the quarterback defensive tackle.

His position isn’t intended to produce great run stopping accountability. He’s essentially another denfensive end playing from the middle. In the past, he’s demanded double teams not because he’s a Haynseworth type of tackle, he’s agile and quick off the snap. Perhaps his production dipped because his weight and his bad wheel caught up with eachother in the middle. Actually being in shape can only help his career out at this point. But I’m silly.

You're being very Un-Dude right now.

by IslandBoodler87 on Jul 30, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have obviously read more into my original post than was there

I never said he definitely wouldn’t do well, I just made an observation and commented that if he is too light it would present problems. Also, while the 3-technique doesn’t demand a huge Haynesworth type, it also isn’t going to work with a 260-270 lb guy in there either. NFL players need muscle, true, but certain positions need some girth by design and any DT, no matter what the scheme, generally need some size to be effective. The centers and guards he’ll be going up against might outweigh him by an average of 40-50 lbs and will be every bit as strong as he is so, while I am glad he’s shown enough initiative to get in better shape, I’d still be more comfortable with him in the 290-295 range. As to your comment about being silly, you’ll have to answer that on your own.

by BearFan611 on Jul 30, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

THarris game was more about quickness than bulk and or strength

so while I agree if he is at 280ish he is a bit small for a DT (even in a 4-3 look), if he has regained the quickness he once had, that will make up for the weight advantage of the blockers he will be facing.

There are two styles of DT, the big bulky space eaters (see the Vikings’ Wiliams wall), and the smaller but quicker guys like THarris. Both styles can work. The big space eaters are a more passive style of play. They can be effective because they cannot be moved. The smaller DTs like THarris are more aggressive, with an attacking style of play. They can be effective because they are quick off the ball and get penetration thereby disrupting the play.

One is not necessarily better than the other, both can work, so which you use comes down to philosophy and personnel.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Jul 31, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're saying the same thing that I am but

if he is too small (and it is too hard to tell exactly where he’s at from the picture) even an increase in quickness isn’t going to hold up for an entire game, let alone for a 16 game season. My point is we need him to be effective over the long haul if we hope to improve on last year’s record. One or two good games and the others being mediocre or if he gets worn down and injured does us absolutely no good at all.

by BearFan611 on Jul 31, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

the biggest danger of being undersized is durability. Hopefully the Bears will be wise in their use of him, but that depends on who they have backing him up.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Jul 31, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's not exactly cut and dry...

Muscle weighs more than fat of course, so he could have easily slimmed down and maintained weight, specially since he looks to have put on quite a bit of muscle.

Also, simply adding fat can both help and hurt durability. It acts as padding of course, but it also puts more strain on the body to carry it. It’s basically better for him to be 285 and ripped than 295 and flabby under most circumstances, both from a durability and explosiveness standpoint.

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by Jacob Hayes on Jul 31, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not too many DTs under 290 these days

at least not too many good ones. Size matters at that position, but if THarris has his quickness back, he could be effective even as a smallish DT. But the concern that he will get worn down by facing 300+ OLs week after week is legit.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Jul 31, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh..

Perhaps the weight and fat Harris has been playing at, has potentially been his biggest problem staying healthy. Hayes over here seems to understand what I’m saying.

If not staying at the same weight is a detrimet to him physically or performance wise,then he might as well hang it up because we’ve all seen the problems he’s had playing at 300 pounds.

My point is… He’s shown that he wears down already at this point up to this career,and at this undoubtedly lowered weight that can only help him at this juncture of his career.

You're being very Un-Dude right now.

by IslandBoodler87 on Aug 1, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

We are closer to agreement than you seem to realize

I like the leaner fitter THarris as much as you do. I like it because his game was always about quickness. When he was the best DT in the NFL it was not because he was an immovable object, it was because he was such a disruptive presence with his ability to get into the backfield.

But even if he is in better shape than ever before, and he has his quickness back, he is still going to be taking a pounding from larger guys, and that does have a cumulative effect and could cause him to wear down. I think the Bears have to be very careful in how much they use him if he is to play a full season. I just do not see him as an every down kind of player anymore.

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by lookingdeadred on Aug 1, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

#91

I agree. This guy needs to have a huge year if we’re going to be successful so Peppers can’t be double-teamed. If he can just get back to close to the way he played in 06, this D can be special.

by walterfan34 on Jul 30, 2010 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

good sign, but still weary

It’s a good sign that he actually looks in shape for a change. However, I still have my doubts about him every fully recovering from those injuries.

It he didn’t recover from the injuries after 3 years (his play last year was not good), then I have little faith that he’ll ever fully recover.

That being said, getting in shape has got to at least help.

by MakeHalasProud on Jul 30, 2010 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

What seems overlooked by the commentary

Is that he’ll have both EMOTIONAL and PHYSICAL support on the line. Peppers not only brings a skill level not seen in years but his leadership and mentoring should prove invaluable to a guy like TH.

He will benefit greatly this years from the all of the effort he has personally put forward as well as the coaching/mentoring he’ll get.

Pro Bowl?? I dunno I hope you’re right. Win the division?? Pass that dixie cup over here!!

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jul 30, 2010 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope so, I really do.

I personally think that Peppers is a good character guy. and will help Tommie in that regard as well, but there are enough people that question his actions with the Panthers that I didn’t include it. I almost think it’ll be a two-way street, the primary reasoning behind some of Peppers issues was a lack of respect and feeling of being valued by the staff, management, and fans.

If there is one thing we as a organization, and as a fan base support more than most it’s fantastic defensive players. The Bears org also is a firm believer in taking care of their own before going to the FA pool, so I think Peppers will be extremely happy here, and from that point the happy cup shall spillith over onto Harris and company.

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by Jacob Hayes on Jul 30, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

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