Chicago Bears Wide Receiver Roulette - Round 2
After week one, we've got our first two losers and one of our winners. First up, the losers of round one are the two relative unknowns of Antonio Robinson and Greg Matthews that tied with one vote a piece. It seems the Nicholls State and Michigan products just didn't resonate with the readers. However, in the defense of everyone who didn't see fit to vote for them, they are such unknowns I don't know if their names would resonate with their own mothers. Robinson is a small school project known more for his return skills than his ability as a receiver, and that's when he's known at all. Greg Matthews is the big bodied Michigan product that failed to impress despite showing flashes of quality and having excellent measureables.
Follow me below the fold where we will take a look at the first winner in our little fan poll, and we'll vote again for round two. Remember the lowest leaves, and the highest gets added to the list and a small write up about them. Feel free to campaign for your favorite in the comments.
The winner of the last poll was Devin Aromashodu by a little over 200 votes, considering there were only around 900 votes in total that's a fairly impressive margin of over 20% over his next closest competitor. To say that Bears fans have bought into DA would be an understatement, but it's easy to understand why they the Bears might finally be paying off those IOUs for one quality wide receiver.
First up, a couple of points from Devin's scouting report coming out of Auburn courtesy of CBS Sports
Positives: Has long limbs, good linear quickness and the acceleration to stretch the field … Shows good body control to adjust in his long routes and if given room, he can generate the short burst needed to escape the jam … Has good cutting agility and can adjust in his routes to make the over-the-shoulder grabs … Has good separation ability when he knows the ball is coming to him … Needs minimal reps to retain plays … Has the ability to time his leaps in order to get to the ball at its highest point … Normal strider who can quickly eat up the defender's cushion.
Negatives: Needs to improve his work habits (does what is asked, nothing more) … Will throttle down when not involved in the play … Prefers to operate on sideline and deep routes, as he shies away from contact too much to be effective working underneath … Has some stiffness turning and facing the quarterback … Lacks natural hands, but does look effective making the over-the-shoulder catches … Lacks toughness to compete for the ball in a crowd … Needs to demonstrate better hand placement when blocking … Needs to play with better consistency, as he disappears for long stretches.
Aromashodu is a long-limbed athlete with a lean frame with tight muscles and a very thin waist. He is more of a deep threat due to his quickness and has a sharp linear burst to easily eat up the defender's cushion. He has decent strength to combat the press coverage, but needs to get more physical with his hands in order to keep from being rerouted. He has the body control to make adjustments to the ball in flight and runs good routes upfield.
However, he appears too tight in his hips to generate double moves and does not have the natural hands to secure the ball when facing the quarterback (does a better job catching over his outside shoulder on deep routes). He seems to shy away from contact and is the type of player that needs to be pushed in order to produce. He has frustrated coaches on occasion when he simply throttles down and looks uninterested when not involved in the play. He showed better focus as a senior, but he lacks leadership skills and has yet to answer questions about his overall desire for the game.
One of the best things that can be noted from his scouting report are the knocks against him. The vast majority of them seem to be purely motivational and psychological in nature. They aren't knocks like being too slow, too small, or even not intelligent enough. They are simply knocks about the effort given, and at times his mental toughness. You might be thinking, why is this a good thing? The reason this is actually something to celebrate is these were his knocks coming immediately out of college. Devin has had four years of bouncing around practice squads, inactive lists, active rosters, and the unemployment line. If there was ever a test of the drive of a player, and a way to help them develop that mental toughness it's that kind of life for the past four years.
If he didn't have the drive to be a full-time player in the NFL, he would have already washed out. He wouldn't have been out there every day attempting to learn all he could to crack the roster. He wouldn't have continued honing his skills, and looking for another opportunity after getting waived by the Dolphins of all teams. He had plenty of opportunities to hang up his cleats and settle into a normal life away from football. He didn't, he gutted it out and continued to hone his already noticeable abilities and found himself claimed to the Bears active roster in 2008.
As far as his measureables go they aren't anything that will make you leap from your seat, but they are solidly respectable in almost all regards. Standing at six feet two inches tall, and weighing in just north of 200 pounds he definitely qualifies as a tall receiver in our group filled with quality guys, but most stand 6ft tall or shorter. DA's 40-yard dash again isn't amazing, but is respectable clocking in right around 4.51 on the 40 yard dash, along with having decent scores on the bench. He's not the fastest receiver in the game, but he's fast enough. He's not the strongest receiver in the game, but he's strong enough. He's not the tallest receiver in the game, but he's tall enough. Oh, and most importantly. Sir Sizzle wanted him on the field.
We can sit here and talk about measureables, route running, conditioning, and all sorts of other common points of contention when it comes to receivers, but nothing really compares to the franchise quarterback saying he wants to throw the ball to you. When Jay Cutler made a point of mentioning Devin Aromashodu on multiple occasions, something that isn't a small feat due to his unique name, that meant more than any game tape or coaches evaluation. The guy actually chucking the ball around out there wanted to throw the ball to him, and thought he should be in the mix. Of course, we didn't actually get to see it until later in the year but once we did it was obvious why Sizzle had wanted his company on the field. DA actually had the experience that most of the group lacked, his ability to know where he needed to be and to retain that even when not on the field every down was a help to the beleaguered quarterback.
Much like the over the middle pass to Earl Bennett last year there are some passes that can only be completed when the QB and the receiver have a relationship between them, and Cutler found one with the journeyman with the hard to pronounce name. While he may not be the hard nosed guy that is just dying to lay a hit on the opposing DB, or someone like Earl Bennett who relishes working the middle of the field, there have been plenty of his breed that have been pro-bowl contributors for different teams over the years. One can only hope the story of the journeyman receiver who burst onto the scene can be a fine chapter in the novel written about the 2010 Super Bowl champions during the next off season.
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Very nice post
I enjoyed reading this. I like D.A. and I honestly believe that the only thing working against him is this…
Auburn
Ugh, I hate those guys. Lucky for him he’s playing with Da Bears and I can see past the whole AU thing. I think he’s busted his ass to get to where he is right now and has put himself in position to have a successful NFL career. I’m definitely rooting for him.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
Yeah...
He definitely has the making of a fantastic story this year. Something akin to Marques Colston level of bursting onto the scene out of nowhere would be fantastic.
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Great write-up.
Interesting and informative. I love this roulette idea. :]
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Just the way I like it...
I mean…Rashied Davis is a wide receiver for the Chicago Bears.
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The one thing that I want to see him improve on is strength when going up for the football.
There was times last season where he would go up for the ball only to get it knocked away by the defender. I would like to see him go up, get the ball, and come down with it. Other than that I think he’s our best all around receiver.
by Dominique Blanton on Jul 6, 2010 10:09 PM CDT reply actions
I believe that if any coach can get rid of those knocks
You’d have to think it’s be Martz. He’s a no-nonsense guy who is a stickler for details and a perfectionist. If D.A. sees the field significantly this year that will be proof that he’s past all his work ethic problems.
"I was interviewing George Halas and I asked him who is the greatest running back you ever saw. And he said, 'That would be Red Grange.' And I asked him if Grange was playing today, how many yards do you think he'd gain. And he said, 'About 750, maybe 800 yards.' And I said, 'Well, 800 yards is just okay.' He sat up in his chair and he said, 'Son, you must remember one thing. Red Grange is 75 years old.' - Chris Berman
by Sam Householder on Jul 6, 2010 11:32 PM CDT reply actions
I didn't vote for Knox or Hester, since they are virtual locks anyways
He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers
A more logical poll whould have been which receiver doesn't make the roster.
Knox, Hester, Earl, DA and likely Juaquin are locks.
Actually...
This poll is entirely logical, it’s just a different and in my opinion, more fun way of doing things. The way you’re suggesting is just as logical, but doesn’t provide the same information. This gives a bit more insight on the popularity of each receiver in relation to the other options. For example, Rashied Davis is pretty highly unpopular if Vic Hall is getting the nod over him more often than not.
It also gives me a chance to talk about each individual wide receiver that gets the votes instead of trying to talk about each one for a paragraph in one big post-mortum thread.
However, opinion is duly noted. :D
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I'll admit
I didn’t get the format of your post the 1st time you posted it… but now, I like the idea, very creative!
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 7, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
If Davis is ousted by the likes of Vic Hall...
then I may lose some faith in our readership.
Hall was a cornerback and a quarterback at UVA, he didn’t even play wide receiver. And to top it off, he’s the same height as Davis, just a few pounds lighter.
Rashied Davis as a starting wide receiver, on the outside, was a bust. However, if utilized correctly (in the slot), he’ll be just fine. He is a solid special teams contributor and a good backup wide receiver. I can’t find the link, but it’s been said here before about how much of a motivator/leader he is on the sideline.
Come on people, restore the faith!
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Confusing poll
Shouldn’t it include just the WRs who aren’t a lock to make the team? With that said, I always love seeing positives/negatives or strengths/weaknesses in a player’s scouting report.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
Nah...
That’s kind of the whole point. Locks to make the team should receive more votes than players that aren’t going to make the team at all, because one would assume they are locks for being good players. However, if there is a disconnect between a players fan support and his overall quality this kind of setup will more quickly show it.
Keep the highest, drop the lowest, and keep on trucking is just much more fun and informative to me. We’ve already got DA as #1, and it looks like Knox will be at #2 as of right now. It should be interesting to see where Knox’s votes go in the next round and as of right now, will Rashied Davis even make the cut to the third round. The third round will be the same setup of drop the lowest, keep the highest, which will take us to the final round of four guys, where it’ll be top three.
That should give us six wide receivers that we specifically wanted on the team, instead of just saying those guys are locks.
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Ok
I didn’t realize it was a process of elimination. Still though, the top WRs (the ones we expect and like) will systematically make the cut. According to the results, the WRs with the most playing time have more votes- fairly predictable IMHO.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
Except, almost the opposite is true.
DA had trouble getting onto the field the majority of last year, yet he was the top selection of the readers.
Knox was out the last two games of the year if memory serves, and didn’t start a single game last year while looking impressive in the reps he did get.
So thus far, the receivers with least amount of playing time seem to be the ones that have caught the fans interest. I’m super excited for the next poll just to see if the Knox votes end up going to Hester, or Bennett. Also, I’m kind of intrigued to see what happens in the final round where the top three stay in. I’m also contemplating a losers round for the possible 7th WR spot after all is said and done, but as of right now it looks like Rashied is going to be the odd man out, at least as far as what the fans want.
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but as of right now it looks like Rashied is going to be the odd man out, at least as far as what the fans want.
Which is just effin’ ridiculous. Although, I’d like to see a losers poll, to determine the seventh receiver. I still, some what, have some faith that our readers would put Davis through.
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True
but those guys are slated as the #2 and #3 WRs on the depth chart, and Knox was out there for most of last season. Nothing from last year is really relevant except that Aroma finally got some much deserved playing time, and the PT is carrying over to this year.
As far as Davis goes, I’ll vote for him to make the cut over any of the undrafted FAs and Peterman. He certainly has plenty of value on STS, and now in Martz’s offense that caters to smaller, quicker WRs.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
by propheteer on Jul 8, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why can't you except the fact that Peterman is the man?
I’ll give you that Davis does have some value but based on the over abundance of receivers that we have I can see Davis’ days as a Bear getting shorter and shorter. Of course said that last year and well I was wrong but what the F ever…
If Mike Ditka punched you in the face, you'd have to fight off the urge to thank him.
I've thought Davis and Hillenmeyer
were both goners each of the past two years. And each year…
But please, do tell why I should switch my allegiance to Peterman? And none of that “he was good at special teams in College” garbage, because McNown was good in College too. We all know how well that turned out.
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I thought the same about Hillenmeyer myself.
As far as my reason for why I think you should switch over to Petermen is simple and it will not be anything stat driven and will have nothing to do with anything logical. To me I support him because A. Rasheid has worn thin with me and I think he needs to move on and B. Petermen= Tom Waddle…. Everybody loved Tom so by that and the fact that Sex Panther works 68% of the time everytime it means Petermen is the man.
If Mike Ditka punched you in the face, you'd have to fight off the urge to thank him.
Well. I am definitely sold now. ;)
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by David Taylor on Jul 9, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Hard to argue with my reasoning I know.
I did pass on using the trump card by simply stating…
Ditka.
If Mike Ditka punched you in the face, you'd have to fight off the urge to thank him.
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 9, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Will you use the Smudgers Bump for good now?
No more of this Rasheid backing, go all in with Peterman.
If Mike Ditka punched you in the face, you'd have to fight off the urge to thank him.
The Elephant Mans bones.
If Mike Ditka punched you in the face, you'd have to fight off the urge to thank him.
*laughs*
Heretics, the both of you. I will burn the church of Droppapotamus to the ground! From the ashes Peterman shall arise and be the ST stud of the future.
The funny thing is I like Rashied and Peterman better than I like Barnes as ST contributors. The only problem is I like Barnes better as a possible offensive contributor of the future than either Rashied or Peterman. So my rankings are something like this.
ST:
Peterman = Rashied > Barnes
Offensive promise:
Barnes > Peterman > Rashied
Peterman was a stand out on ST and that’s the main reason he was brought in. He was a special teams ace in college, and considering the lack of focus placed on ST a lot of the time in the college game that saying a lot. Rashied however has developed into a great ST contributor himself.
Barnes complicates things because I don’t see him playing a lot of ST, but on the flip side I could easily see him developing into a poor man’s Anquan Boldin at receiver. He fights for every single ball that comes into his vicinity, plays hard, blocks, he’s just not going to be a deep ball threat. Peterman is a relative unknown, but it’s safe to say he’s destined to be at best a 5th WR, but that’s fine as a ST ace.
To me that leaves Rashied on the outside looking in as Peterman is just as capable on ST and is much much younger, and cheaper. Barnes is fulfilling your promise guy on the bench who could fill in during a pinch. I just don’t see a reason to keep Rashied around except for being a good locker room guy. I don’t know if that’s enough.
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Davis vs. Peterman
Yes, Peterman’s younger and (supposedly) a good special teams guy.
However, with the loss of Peterson, Williams and possibly Wolfe, add in the possibility that Izzy’s reps may be somewhat limited, I’d really like to keep a proven ST’s guy (besides Shaw). Davis is that, and I think his value is greater than most people would like to give him credit for.
Like I said above, Davis failed as a starting wide receiver, but he was being used incorrectly. And even so, he still showed some promise. While he’s getting older, Davis is a better receiver, in my opinion. Of course, we’ve never really seen Peterman offensively, so I’m basing this solely on what I’ve seen from Davis, and that Peterman (as you stated) was brought in for ST’s. Given the fact that he’s yet to beat out Davis in that capacity…
I’d honestly be okay if Davis were beat out by Peterman, but I just don’t think it’s going to happen this year. Maybe next.
As for Barnes, I think he’s practice squad fodder for the year. And while he may end up being the next Boldin, he’s definitely turning into the new Riddeau.
I love your opening though.
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I dunno...
Special Teams is…special.
There really isn’t a a huge drop off from college to the pros, there isn’t a whole lot of the game speed issues that a lot of players have on the offense and defense, mainly because as far as special teams goes you’ve only got a few possible things to know. It’s all about doing your job, staying in your lane, basically just doing as you were told and having good instincts and ability to be coached.
Special Teams is basically the home for “good football players” that aren’t exactly physical specimens, mind over body and all that jazz.
The real reason Davis is still there over Peterman in my estimation isn’t that he’s better than Peterman at ST, it’s that as of last year Davis was seen as a better receiver than Peterman which could easily be true, and may still be even this year.
I just think the stars are aligned against Davis this year with it being the last year of his contract, and starting get up there in “football age”, and two different young guys that can do his two jobs equally well or better between them.
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It comes down to
effectiveness in the offense with a little amount of reps. Davis is good in a very limited role, but may improve cause his skill-set fits in well with what Martz likes to do.
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WR
Yes, really liked the way #19 played last year, I expect him to really step it up this year. I’ll admit I don’t know much about the undrafted guys, but I don’t see any way any of them make this team. In my post on 6/30, I said I thought Peterman would make the team, but on ST only. 3 weeks till camp starts, can’t wait!!!!
It's amazing to me
That fans would vote for Know, who I really like, over Hester and Bennett, when both of them showed they were the better receivers last season. Like I said in the last vote, we are letting highlight reels ruin our view of players. Both Knox and Aromashodu were exciting players to watch, but they were hardly consistent.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
My vote went to Peterman of course...
However, I can definitely see the appeal of Knox. He was extremely consistent for a first year guy, specially one out of a small school. There are receivers of his mold that haven’t had years like his last year after two or three years. That’s also not factoring in that the strongest part of his game is going to be on the deeper routes that we just weren’t able to run last year due to the lack of protection.
It’s not out of the question at all for Knox to end up with much better numbers than Hester in somewhat similar roles.
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