Chicago Bears' Coaching: What Worries You?
The long NFL off-season is filled with many milestones leading to team improvement (we hope). Coaching changes, free agency, draft, OTA's, etc. all progress towards training camp and eventually the opening of the 2010 season. Back in March, we looked at what YOU thought about the Bears' coaching: LINK. A lot has changed and a lot has stayed the same. What do you think now? (See below for analysis of the previous poll pictured above.)
When we look back at what the WCG community thought back in March, it certainly looks like the Bears have addressed the top 3 biggest concerns.
Receiving 41% of the vote was the Bears' coaches' incompetent development & cultivating of young talent. Mike Martz is no stranger to young talent on offense. He took young receivers named Holt and Az-Hakim and made them household names. Although not young in age, Kurt Warner was definitely young in experience back in 1999. He ended up winning the NFL MVP a few times. In addition to Martz, the Bears also brought in Mike Tice to coach up the offensive line. He has taken a liking to Johan Asiata, Lance Louis, and J'Marcus Webb: all young players. Developing young talent is not a concern for me anymore, at least not on the offensive side of the ball. Once the pads go on, will D.A., Knox, Hester, & Bennett all continue to "get it"? Will someone step up and grab the left guard spot? With Martz & Tice in the fold, I think the answer is yes.
The defense is a different story. Zack Bowman seems to be 1 young player who has developed nicely. We'll see how the other youngsters Major Wright, Jarron Gilbert, Henry Melton, D.J. Moore, Josh Moore, and Corey Wootton all look come preseason.
With 19% of the vote, your next biggest concern about the Bears' coaches was the Cover-2. Julius Peppers and Chris Harris were both brought here to address the weaknesses on defense...especially the cover-2. This defense relies on pressure from the front four. Julius Peppers, when motivated, is a beast. After the 3-technique & middle linebacker (some guy named Urlacher is back), safety is arguably the next most important position in the defense. Chris Harris is a solid player. He also excels at forcing fumbles, something Lovie & gang preach.
With 11% of the vote, your next biggest concern about the Bears' coaches was the play calling on offense. You might think Martz will pass too much (not always true - LINK), but I do not think creativity will be a problem. I do not think we'll be groaning too much about yet another 1 yard plunge up middle.
The Bears' Secondary Musical Chairs came in 4th place with 9% of the vote. Well, what can I say? Nothing has changed here. Is Chris Harris going to start at free safety or strong safety? Will Danieal Manning start at strong? Will Major Wright be the starter at free? Steltz? Really!!??? Zack Bowman and Charles Tillman have flipped sides just to add to the chaos.
What worries you most now about the coaches going into the preseason?
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My biggest concern right now is coaching of the receivers & Jay
With the new offense, things look good right now. I’m confident all the receivers will get it, I’m just not 100% on it.
secondary has to step up
every time we went up a good passing attack, we got burned…BADLY.
I know that a better D-line will help, but there is no single person that is THE MAN in our DB corps. If these guys don’t pick up the slack we will be in trouble like the Patriots last year, afraid to put the game in the hands of the defense and having to go for it on fourth and 2 deep in your end.
It doesn’t matter how good your offense is if your D gives up 300+ yards and 24 pts in a single half.
Until Lovie shows he has mastered time management
and some intelligence with his challenges, that’s my pick
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 7, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions
It's definitely a problem, but....
is it the single biggest problem? I can bring myself to believe it is, as much as I wish it were………..
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 7, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
With the changes that took place in the offseason
Chris Harris stabilizes the secondary, The Cover 2 isn’t a problem as long as the players execute (Harris & Peppers will pay dividends), I’m not really worried about LG (Beekman or whoever wins the job will be fine), coaching WR and QB isn’t a problem anymore (Hello Martz!!!), let’s run up the middle some more? (again hello Martz!), penalties will go down with more experienced personnel, developing talent is a bit of a problem (but DA did get on the field {finally}, Knox, Bennett, Afalava, Bowman, Roach, and the emerging Asista are all young players that stepped up last year or in the case of Asista, has impressed this offseason.
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 8, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with some of what you said, Les, but.....
I disagree with the idea that the secondary is solidified by the return of Harris (Chris will be great if he plays SS, which will also mean that Wright performed well enough to play FS. but if it comes down to Harris at FS and Steltz or Manning at SS then I think we’re only slightly better and still in need of help).
I disagree with the names you mentioned being proof of player development (if they take the next step, then we can talk, but just because they got on the field due to injury and positional weakness doesn’t mean they are proof of developmental success, my friend).
And I’m not so sure that the Cover Two isn’t a problem with Smith (or sock puppet a, b or c) in charge. I do think Peppers and Harris help, as do Urlacher and Tinoisamoa. I’m just not confident that the coaching on the defensive side is competent any more. I hope they prove me wrong though. I’d love to write a fan post apologizing to Smith and Co for calling them out after the season ends. I really would. I just don’t have a lot of faith in coach Ben Stein……..I mean coach Lovie Smith and his defensive coaches. But I have tons of faith in the players, so I’m not without hope. I just fear that Chicago will end up in more shootouts than Bears fans will care to see this season.
If I had an offensive and defensive confidence meter going, I’d have to say that my confidence in the offense right now sits at a 65 out of 100. And my confidence in the defense sits at about 45-50. I am less than satisfied with the defensive coaching the past few years, but the faith I have in the players and in the FA moves and trades made this off-season make me fairly sit fairly near the middle. God I hope Smith makes me eat my words about his coaching (or at least for Hot Rod to make me do so)…………….
The rest I agree with completely.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 10, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Incompetence..., Musical chairs and Other
Sorry to screw up the integrity of the list. But for me it’s all of these rolled into one.
I find it incompetent that some of the young talent on this team, DA, Corey Graham, Danielle Manning, Frank Omiyale, Chris Williams, among others haven’t hit the field when they should’ve. Nor have they been in the correct position, in many cases.
No doubt, having the correct people on the field, in the correct positions, is my biggest concern.
+1
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 7, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Incompetence...
the rest of the words in that choice ar irrelevant. we have been incompetent for awhile, 3 seasons and no playoffs. maybe martz and tice automatically raise the level of competence by walking through the door to Halas Hall. maybe not.
I voted for "other" because there was no "all of the above" choice....
seriously, all of these different issues have been showing themselves for the last several years and until they actually show measurable changes, I’m taking a wait and see attitude toward this coaching staff.
I hated to accept this for a long time
but I think Lovie has a problem being surrounded by competent assistants who might actually have different opinions than his own. Hopefully 3 years of results ranging from “meh” to “Bleah!” will have humbled him to the point he’s ready to accept new ideas.
Is it football season yet?
Can you say......
Ron Rivera? Lovie couldn’t………….. :(
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 7, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe that’s why he let him go. “Bob” just rolled off his tongue, on the other hand.
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My "other" biggest concern
is Martz’s ability to reel in Cutler- he obviously needs to minimize his mistakes in the redzone. If he was average there last season, the Bears probably make the playoffs. This will be the Bears make or break aspect, rather than the defenses’ re-rise to prominance.
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Question....
How much of this problem was based on Jay Cutler, and how much of it was based on Jay Cutler having to compensate for Ron Turner?
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 7, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
You can blame Ron
all you want, but everyone saw how erratic Jay was under pressure. Those Ints versus the Niners and Packers were some of the worst decisions I’ve seen a QB make while in the redzone. He didn’t need to compensate, all he needed to do was to throw the ball away. The running game was non-existent, so teams were just sitting eight men in coverage knowing full well Jay would hoist a ball up for grabs.
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I didn't blame anyone, Snappy....
I asked a question.
And you can Blame Cutler all you want, but when the receivers aren’t where they belong and you have 5 matadors letting 4 300lb animals, who would like nothing more than to see if they can make your spleen touch your chin, into your “pocket” when you know the very next play is going to be a fullback dive……..again…….but you still actually want to win………..well, i think maybe some of the blame might belong elsewhere, don’t you? It’s one thing to be erratic under pressure. It’s another to be mauled consistently while your dumd@ssed offensive coordinator calls a deep out for the eighth time this half, and then follows up with a fullback dive on third down after you were again forced to dump it off to the halfback because your receivers are covered and out of position. And why are they covered and out of position? Because every team in the league has watched Ron Turner call the same damned plays for the past 4 seasons prior.
And how can you say he didn’t need to compensate? I guess you’re right, if he didn’t want to win. Because we all know that the fullback dive is insanely productive………..
But maybe you’re right……maybe they fire Turner for the second time for nothing……Maybe he was just the scapegoat?
I don’t mean for this to sound as hostile as it might come off. But seriously? I mean, Cutler pre-Turner didn’t look that bad, did he? You wondered if Martz would be able to reel him in, right? Shanahan didn’t seem to have much of a problem with it in Denver. I’m not saying Cutler was perfect. But I’ll bet with some decent coaching and play-calling last season, that his TD-INT ratio would have been a lot better. And placing the blame for the offenses woes on Jay’s shoulders after one season in Chicago and under one of the league’s worst OCs is a bit ridiculous. Were some of those INTs Jays fault? Sure. But a lot of them weren’t, and a lot of them were made easier for the defense with predictable and unimaginative play-calling.
And I am so sick of Bears fans and media turning on the QBs. Most people acknowledge how important confidence and ego are to a QB. Some don’t, I understand. But most people seem to. I wonder if the ruthless fan base and media in Chicago have anything at all to do with the number of QBs that this team has went through since our last championship, or if it has anything to do with why Chicago’s all-time leading passer was a dude who last played for the Bears 60 seasons ago and before the pass heavy era. And maybe it has a part in why Chicago is the only team in the league who’s all-time leading rusher has more yards than the all-time leading passer. Or if it has anything to do with why the better free agent QBs seem to land elsewhere instead of here……….
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 10, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
biggest concern for 2010
It’s definitely the Cover 2. Why the defense is not more aggressive is painful to watch. Just once, I want to see the “bring more than they can block” approach, who knows, we might shut down some great offenses. Nothing frustrates me more as a fan than to see everyone dropping back in coverage. Be agressive!!! I have many more complaints about the coaching staff, but that’s definitely #1 on my list.
I am sick of the gap coverage...
Tampa2, Cover Who? defense. While the concept of 2 deep safeties is plausible and other elements of the defense remain as sound as ever, the coaches have taken a nostalgically ineffective tack toward this as the base defense. Warren Sapp was the difference between the successful Cover-2 (gap control) run in Tampa and the mess that T Harris has made the Cover-2 in Chicago. Warren Sapp was really that good, he is a HOF guy. T Harris is just not that good. Measures such adding Peppers and some other elements are going to improve this defense, but there is just too many A-gap blitz fakes and other predictable strategic errors that me worry about the tactical ineptitude of the defensive coaches. I am not saying that T Harris is the sole reason the defense has failed in the last few years, but relying on his greatness to mask the tactical failures is no longer an option.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
Good points.....
I’d be a lot more comfortable with some new blood in the upper tier of the defensive coaching ranks. But, unfortunately, there were no new ideas brought in at a level that matters on the defensive side of the ball.
I’m not a cover 2 fan or a cover 2 detractor. I think that with the proper coaching and gameplan, as well as the proper personnel, the Cover 2 can be a great base system. But if you are missing one or both of those prerequisites, then the cover 2 can be a liability. I’m not sure if Tommie can’t be the 3Tech effectively. But I am very concerned about the competency of the defensive coaches, as well as the coaching staffs ability to develop players into form for the defense.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 7, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
A-gap feign blitzes
I don’t think we’ll see many of those this season; the coaching staff has got to realize it takes the LBs out of their zones, so the QB has the quick slants and curls wide open all day long.
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Great Post......
I think all of these things are issues that needed to be addressed for the Bears to achieve the success that is befitting a team with the talent available on this roster.
But I’d have to say that the Competency in Development option is still the biggest concern. The defense is going to live or die by Tommie Harris’s performance and *the performance of a young and developing secondary that includes Major Wright, Corey Graham, DJ Moore, Josh Moore, Danieal Manning, Craig Steltz, Zack Bowman and Al Afalava, all of whom either are understandably young and developing or are mid-career and developing still due to the previous failures of the defensive coaching staff. The only players in the secondary that I am completely comfortable with are Charles Tillman and Chris Harris. I left out Josh Bullocks because he wasn’t a product of Chicago development.
All of these players are talented athletes, from Manning to Steltz to Afalava. But none of them have been developed properly. Bowman looks to be on th right track, but before I just hail him as a developmental success, I’d like to see soe more of him. And even then, I’d argue that he showed flashes of greatness from the very beginning.
The secondary is by far the biggest question mark, and I know that Musical Secondary was an option, but I would contend that the musical secondary is a product of incompetency at the developmental level.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 7, 2010 5:13 PM CDT reply actions
I chose "incompetent development & cultivating of young talent"
because it basically overlaps with three or four of the other choices. We’re putting Chris Harris at free safety, even though he thrived as a strong safety at Carolina and here. We’re putting Danieal Manning at strong safety even though he’s never played that position before. We just now discovered that Frank Omiyale plays tackle, not guard.
I feel like Kyle Brovloski’s mom – wut-wut-WHAT??!!!
by NorthSideBearsFan on Jul 8, 2010 12:15 AM CDT reply actions
To the ten people who are still concerned about running up the middle too much,
Have you met me?

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
I was wondering the same thing
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 8, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I can understand people being concerned
with every other choice on there, but not this one. Sometimes I wonder if Martz is even aware of the 1 and 2 gaps.
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