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Why "they" didn't make my Top 10 Most Important Bears

A fun part of doing this series is seeing how Bears fans differ with their thoughts on what makes one Bear more important than another.  The fact that it's so subjective is why I really can't argue against anyone that is suggested.  Although we did carry on the Robbie Gould debate through about 3 or 4 posts! 

After the jump I'll get into some snubs that I didn't include in my top 10:

Star-divide

Mike Tice - I really think he'll be an important part of what the Bears do, but I think the O-Line was trending upward anyway.  With or without Tice, I think Chris Williams starting off on the left side will be great for him.  Moving Frank Omiyale to tackle is best for him.  And Olin Kreutz having clean up surgery on his ankle will help get him back to playing more comfortably.

The Left Guard - I'm really not worried about this position.  I hope one of the candidates can step up and play some good football, but I think all 3 guys are ok football players.  Johan Asiata looks to be the front runner, but Josh Beekman should be a solid NFL starter by now, and Lance Louis looks to have improved as well.  Mike Tice is pretty high on all 3.

The Receivers - Yes, any of them.  I just don't see one that is much more important that the others.  If Devin Hester goes down, you just plug Earl Bennett into the Z.  If Bennett is injured, I think Juaquin Iglesias can fill the void.  If Johnny Knox has to sit out a few games, Devin Aromashodu steps into the X and the offense wouldn't miss a beat.  I do think Hester has the potential to have a big time year, but overall this group is pretty even.

Lance Briggs - He may be the best linebacker on the team, but the fact still remains that the weakside linebacker in the Tampa 2 defense has more opportunities to make plays.  Jamar Williams had 18 tackles last year filling in for Briggs in week 13.  Briggs is a bet to make another Pro Bowl, but if he were to go down I think either Nick Roach or Pisa Tinoisamoa (who ever isn't starting on the strongside) will fill in admirably for Briggs.

Either Cornerback - Charles Tillman and Zack Bowman filp flopping sides is the Bears way of letting us know they believe Bowman is the better player.  He may be, but be careful of anointing a guy that has only done it one year. Unless they forgot about the 1st Mark Anderson starting experience.  I think they are both capable players (as is backup Corey Graham), but the biggest reason I left the corners off the list is a couple newcomers that did make my list.  Julius Peppers (#3) will improve the pass rush, and in turn, cut down on how long the DB's have to cover.  And Chris Harris will bring his experience to the secondary.

If you missed any of my posts, here they are in all their heavenly glory:

#10 - Robbie Gould - Kicker
#9 - Matt Forte - Running back
#8 - Olin Kreutz - Center
#7 - Mike Martz - Offensive Coordinator
#6 - Chris Harris - Safety
#5 - Chris Williams - Left Tackle
#4 - Tommie Harris - Defensive Tackle
#3 - Julius Peppers - Defensive End
#2 - Brian Urlacher - Middle Linebacker
#1 - Jay Cutler - Quarterback

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Who do you think is the Most Important Bear in 2010?
Jay Cutler
587 votes
Brian Urlacher
89 votes
Julius Peppers
81 votes
Tommis Harris
77 votes
Other
31 votes

865 votes | Poll has closed

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Urlacher...period

He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers

by BearNecessities on Aug 3, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

i agree

…though it will be a minority opinion. It’s all guess work and opinion at this point, but I think when this season is said and done that the defense will have to come through and Urlacher will be leading it. Cutler is right up there too, but with the Martz style of play being high risk-high reward, the defense will end up having to pull things out more often than not. For example, holding a team to three and out after Cutler throws an interception because the timing on the route was off.

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by Maelvampyre on Aug 3, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which would cripple the Bears chances this season more

Cutler being lost for the season in week 1 or Urlacher?

I’ll give you a hint, it isn’t Urlacher. In fact I would think losing Urlacher would be easier than losing THarris or even Peppers, possibly even CWilliams.

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by lookingdeadred on Aug 3, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

We lost Urlacher last year

and it’s only speculation of course, but in my opinion, that severely derailed our season

He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers

by BearNecessities on Aug 3, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno.

I’d say the terrible redzone play in close games was a big part of it.

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by Kev H on Aug 3, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

But the terrible red zone play wasn't just.....

an offensive problem. It was also a defensive problem. The Bears ranked 31st in the league in 2009 with a 66.071 defensive red zone scoring percentage. That was down from 18th in the league and 54.546% the year before.

The Bears offensive red zone scoring percentage was 47.059, and ranked 27th in the league, down from 56.000% and 13th in the league in ’08.

The red zone was an issue on both sides of the ball, and this is case, the team got worse with Urlacher out, and also got worse with the addition of Cutler. I’m not saying Cutler is at fault, though it might come off that way. What I’m saying is that the defense took a nose dive in the red zone without Urlacher. The Offenses red zone troubles included Cutler.

In 2008, with Urlacher, and without Cutler, the Bears had a better scoring percentage int he red zone than their opponents by a margin of 1.454%. In 2009, without Urlacher and with Cutler, the opponents did a better job in the red zone than the Bears by a margin of 10.071%.

Again, I’m not laying all the blame on Cutler, nor am I giving all the credit to Urlacher. And my opinion is just that, an opinion. But I tend to hold by the “old offense wins game but defense wins championships” mentality. You can’t lose if the other team can’t score. So taking all of that into account, I feel like Urlacher, who is the heart and soul of this defense, is the most important player on the team.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 3, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sources.....

Sorry, forgot to source…….

Offensive Red Zone statistics……

Defensive Red Zone statistics…….

Also, a correction in my math……

In 2009, without Urlacher and with Cutler, the opponents did a better job in the red zone than the Bears by a margin of 10.071%.

That 10.071 number should have been 19.012! That’s a -20.465% change in red zone differential over one season!

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 3, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

To me, this is more about replacement value.

I think we would be better of with the difference in value between Urlacher and whoever replaces him than we would with the gap between Hanie and Cutler.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Aug 4, 2010 3:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bingo

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Aug 4, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thats a big reason I had Cutler #1

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

A solid argument.......

and one that a case can definitely be made for. But it doesn’t just come down to the talent gap between starter and backup (which we really don’t even know, since we’ve never seen Hanie in real game situations).

First, given the wide margin of difference in performance of the defense without Urlacher, and the immeasurable impact of his football IQ and his leadership, I’m hesitant to say the loss of Cutler would be more devastating, especially when you consider that the offense didn’t improve last season with the addition of Cutler over Kyle Orton. Chicago’s offense actually scored 3 points per game less in ’09 than in ’08, dropping from 23.4 to 20.4.

Meanwhile, without Urlacher, opponents points per game jumped from 21.9 to 23.4. Again, I’m not placing all the blame on Cutler or giving all the credit to Urlacher. I think an argument can be made to credit either as the teams most important player, along with Tommie Harris. But I don’t think Urlacher can be dismissed, either. Especially in a city like Chicago, where defense should reign supreme.

One final point. The question is repeatedly asked, most recently by ‘Red below as well as your post, who we would rather see, Hanie at QB or H²/Roach at MLB. I think the question is entirely legitimate, as a fine point. But I don’t think the answer is as clear cut as some make it sound. There’s a lot more to the question than perceived talent at the backup position…….

First, Hanie is an unknown quantity (to us), which in and of itself is scary (I get that). But it also means that we have no real baseline to compare his level of play to, say, H² or Nick Roach. And Mike Martz seems pretty confident in him. Martz’s reputation with QBs is enough to give me a little faith in Hanie, but I’m certainly not of the mind that Hanie would bring the same level of play that Cutler brings.

But that brings up another important thought. Who do you trust more to adjust, should 6 or 54 fall? Mike Martz or the brain-trust of Lovie/Hot Rod/Babich? The ‘09 season gives me reason to believe that the defensive brain-trust has no plan for how to handle the loss of it’s defensive leader, or at least not a successful one. We also have a baseline for what Martz can accomplish if his QB falls, and he has definitely adjusted well, especially in the case of the Rams, where he rearly saw a QB play all 16 games.

We also have a baseline for what the team can do if it’s star QB falls, but the defense still performs. 2005 saw the Bears win 10 of the 15 games that then-rookie Kyle Orton started even with Douchebag Ron Turner calling the plays. Turner adjusted to make the best use of Orton as a game manager and the defense, led by Urlacher, did it’s job. Martz is infinitely more qualified than Turner.

Taking all of that into account, I’d give the nod to Urlacher. But I don’t think it’s a wide margin by a long-shot. Like I said, a great argument can be made for Cutler, and a reasonable argument can be made for Tommie Harris or even Julius Peppers, as well.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 4, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Fantastic! Well constructed argument.

Nicely done Sir.

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by Just Dave on Aug 4, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 4, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

love your comments!

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 5, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I get what you're saying

but I think the 1 1/2 extra points given up without Urlacher is less than the difference would be if Cutler were to go down, especially with Martz’s offense in place. His plays are based so much on timing that I think it would be hard for any QB to step in mid-season, let alone one with no game experience. I’m not trying to belabor the point though, being that we’re just arguing hypotheticals as you pointed out. I’m just hoping we don’t have to find out which one of us is right or wrong.

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by JerBear50 on Aug 7, 2010 3:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've always felt that

it’s harder to blame the defense for giving up red zone points.

I look at it this way, if you’re on offense, and you’re in the red zone, YOU KNOW what play you’re going to call, while the defense is making an educated guess and then trying to play their best football to be at the level to stop you.

As an offense, fundamentally, you should have the upper hand, and the big mistakes (the picks in particular, though the fumbles don’t help) just can’t be allowed to happen with frequency.

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by Kev H on Aug 4, 2010 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree.....

Of course, offenses are going to score points. But the percentage that defenses allow points is a good basis for how well the defense performed. And the argument you give is applicable to the entire field, not just the red zone.

Also, every defense in the league deals with the same issue. But only the Giants were worse in the red zone. play recognition plays a part in the red zone defense, and Urlacher is exemplary in that field. There’s no way to be sure, but I would bet that his loss had a lot to do with the dramatic drop in defensive red zone efficiency.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 4, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again, way too many other variables at work to explain your conclusions

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Aug 4, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

And those variables of course do not......

disqualify the ones I have posted, though, right?

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 4, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The data points to no clear cut conclusion is my point

You have your theory, I and others have ours.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Aug 5, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

And I cannot argue against your conclusion, either...

Very good points can be made for Harris being the most important guy. Cutler and Peppers, too. Of course the best thing that could happen is for all of them to perform well enough for us to be able to discuss who was most important to our Super Bowl run at the end of the season, without being able to come to a conclusion there, as well! ;)

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 5, 2010 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

He is the real last reminder or the 2005 and 2006 seasons, without him, our defense isn’t the same, look at our defense with and then without him, big change.

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by Topher Doll on Aug 4, 2010 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll ask it again

which would you rather see? HH or Roach at MLB or Caleb Hanie at QB?

C’mon, guys, it is not even close. Yes, the Bears are better with Urlacher than without, one would have to be an idiot to argue otherwise, but they have a better chance of being a good defense even if Urlacher should go down than being a good offense should Culter go down. If Cutler goes down, the chances of making the playoff drops to zero.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Aug 4, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kinda like in '05, right?

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 4, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying the results would definitely be the same but....

do you think the St. Louis fans said the same thing in 1999 when Trent Greene went down and some grocery box boy from Northern Iowa and Arena Football was their only option? That didn’t turn out so badly….

While we all want to see Jay remain upright through the whole season, I also don’t think it’s fair to say they have “zero chance” if we had to go to Hanie. We’ll never know unless we actually face the situation. There are no absolutes in the NFL…..except we ABSOLUTELY have to fire Lovie’s ass if we miss the playoffs.

by BearFan611 on Aug 4, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you........

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 4, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I sure hope we do not have to test your hypothesis re: Hanie

but Cutler is the player the team can least afford to lose. If Urlacher goes down there are two experienced guys who can step in,and if the DL play improves the defense can still be high quality, but the same cannot be said for an injury to Cutler.

The comparison to 2005 fails for me because it is problematic that the defense, even with Urlacher all season, will be as good as it was that year. Also, I do not see the Bears being able to convert to a run first offense like they utilized in 2005 to minimize the QB’s need to contribute much.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Aug 5, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

my only point is that there have been several no-name QB’s in history who, under unforeseen circumstances, actually did very well. The aforementioned Kurt Warner, Tom Brady after Bledsoe went down, and even Tony Romo who was another undrafted QB out of Eastern Illinois, although he hasn’t had the ultimate success that the other two have had, he is still considered an elite QB in today’s NFL. I don’t want to see Cutler go down either, but I wouldn’t automatically say Hanie gives us no chance, not until we see him play in regular season, live situations.

You gotta agree with me about Lovie though, right? C’mon, throw me a bone…..

by BearFan611 on Aug 5, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, sometimes backup QBs seize the opportunity and become stars

but you have to admit that is the exception and not the rule.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Aug 6, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Without question, but there's nothing saying Hanie can't be one of those guys...

in fact just from a pure physical tools standpoint, you could make the argument that he, with the right break and proper system, might have a better chance than most of those guys. I am in full agreement that it is a longshot, but being a Cubs and Bears fan all my life, longshots are my lifeblood.

by BearFan611 on Aug 7, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

All good points......

But, again, the Bears, as well as Mike Martz, have a better history of dealing with the loss of their QB than their MLB. I agree that there is now way to know that the defense could perform as admirably as it did in ‘05, much like having no way to know if Hester could perform with the same rate of success at KR as he did in ’06-’07.

But I’m not so sure that the Bears wouldn’t be able to convert to a run heavy offense. I think it might even be easier for them. Consider the talent at the position, or that could be at the position. Forte, Taylor, Wolfe, Unga, Hester…………..(though the argument could definitely be made that nobody we have at LG = Ruben Brown and that Kruetz has declined too far for a run heavy offense to work).

I also agree completely with the hope that we never have to see Hanie in anything beyond clean-up duty. But I also think that assuming H² is so much of a leap ahead of Hanie as a backup, without actually having any real game experience with Hanie, is a bit much. H² is a great backup. But what is Hanie’s backup ability being based off of? Hunters replacement of 54 will be adjusted by the group of geniuses who have manned the defense’s southward trend. Hanie’s replacement of Cutler will be helmed by the same guy who captained Kurt Warner, Jon Kitna and Trent Green’s ascensions to varying degree of success. That will have an impact, as well. It won’t be everything, of course. Martz, no matter how genius, cannot turn my daughter into the next Tom Brady. But is Hanie closer to Kurt Warner or my daughter? And how do any of us know?

Some food for thought…….Martz has had 4 players start games as backups due to injury. All were with the Rams. Their ratings as backups……..

Trent Green subbing Kurt Warner 5 games 101.8 QB rating
Mark Bulger subbing Kurt Warner 7 games 101.5 QB rating
Jamie Martin subbing Marc Bulger 7 games 77.27 QB rating
Chris Chandler subbing Marc Bulger 2 games 51.4 QB rating (Chandler was the only established veteran on the list at the time of his substitution.)

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 5, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow......

I messed that up…..

Kurt Warner subbed Trent Green, not the other way around. Sorry. I just woke up. New job and all….

so…..

Kurt Warner subbing Trent Green 11 games, 98.3 QB rating……..

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 5, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Messup #2

Wrong season for Warner…………

Warner subbed Green for 16 Games in ’99. I actually quoted ’00 originally, where Green did sub Warner. So the original was accurate. I just left out Warner replacing Green in ’99 after Green tore his ACL in a pre-season game. what a mess.

so………..

Kurt Warner subbing Trent Green 16 games 109.2

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 5, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another interesting point......

The Bears record without Urlacher out to injury 7-16

Martz led Rams with backup QBs starting…….25-12 (Warner 13-3, Green 2-3, Bulger 6-1, Chandler 0-2, Martin 4-3)

Of those QB’s nobody knew anything about the ability of Warner, Bulger or Martin as a backup. Green and Chandler had previously been starters in the league, Green with Washington and Chandler with everyone (Indy, Tampa, Phoenix, LA Rams, Houston Atlanta, Chicago then the Rams again. he started at some point in every city).

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 5, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was very close for me between Cutler and Harris

I went with Tommie just because I think he is going directly affect Peppers, Anderson, Urlacher, and the secondary with his play….or lack thereof.

I’m cutting Cutler a little slack because learning and implementing a new offense for any team is a big undertaking and growing pains may not be entirely his doing. That doesn’t mean he gets a pass or can throw into coverage, but there are more factors outside of his control that can affect the entire offensive performance. Tommie and the Defense are playing the same scheme so he should know his job and the level he needs to play at.

by BearFan611 on Aug 3, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

It probably doesn't matter who's #1 or #2...

but I tend to think Harris is more likely to flame out, so his play ends up being more important. I am far more concerned about the play of the defense this season. IMO, Peppers, Izzy and Briggs are the only sure fire guys.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Aug 3, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jay is right at #1... but Tommie is not very far behind him.

If he can draw a double team, Peppers will succeed, and the DBs will suceed. If Tommie doesn’t draw a double team, that means Peppers will, and less QB hurries.

Less QB hurries = more opportunities to get shredded through the air like 2009.

You know, maybe I put Tommie at #1. Maybe Cutler #1 and Tommie 1A.

by Dane Noble on Aug 3, 2010 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

agreed

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Aug 3, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

seconded

success from tommie harris makes the rest of the defense’s job that much easier.

by northernsails on Aug 4, 2010 6:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

thirdeded...

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Aug 4, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Major Wright should be top 10

Major Wright is our only hope of fielding a legit Free Safety this year (a position that has been a weakness since Mike Brown got hurt in 2006).

Major deserves top 10 status before Kreutz does. Kreutz is not a difference maker anymore — though, he is a good bet to commit more stupid penalties. Honestly, I’d rather Beekman start at Center.

Cutler is easily the most important player on our team this year. Not only does he play the most important position in the game, but he’s got the most room for improvement of anyone on Lester’s top 10 list.

by MakeHalasProud on Aug 3, 2010 12:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Wright isn't even a starter...

I have a hard time putting so much importance on a kid in his situation. But I do really hope he can win the FS job

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 3, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cutler is #1

If he can minimize his INT’s the offense will be fine. Also, it will improve the defense, because they won’t be on the field as much and hopefully with better field position that they were in last year.

As for Tommie, I think he will be fine this year…Peppers will draw the extra attention, therefore Harris, Anderson, etc. will have the one on one battles, if they can’t get pressure facing one o-lineman then we are in trouble, but I think with Peppers on the field things will open up for the rest of the line.

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Aug 3, 2010 12:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Actually with a Martz-fense

Shouldn’t the D be on the field more? Heavy pass, score fast and big O normally leads to more D time.

by TheMan1 on Aug 3, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I voted Other

And if this jacks with the integrity of the list, I apologize.

But for me, it’s all about the O-line. If they play well all year, so will Cutler, the RBs and the WRs. I really believe that.

As for the defense, injuries are the only thing that can derail this unit in 2010.

by rdent4hof on Aug 3, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I see your point

Ill just never put an entire group in a spot

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 3, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is my list, Lester... (BTW-- like your list; minus Gould)

I kept it on the players as the coaches are CERTAINLY important to the planning, but the players must make the plays.

1. Cutler— The high number of interceptions in 2009 resulted in many missed opportunities and taking the Bears right out of the game. Factor in the fact that a lot of those interceptions were late in the game and in the red zone and you can see just how big a difference maker he was in 2009. Plus, the QB position is the most important position on the football field as it touches he football 100% of the time (except in the event of a direct snap).

2.) Chris Williams— If we haven’t learned anything from the Vikings acquisition of Jared Allen or the Giants fortune of having a Strahan-followed-by-Osi Umenyora (sp)…

… Being able to protect your QB from the blind side speed rusher is a VERY important piece to being successful. Also, consider that the Bears OL allowed 35 sacks in 2009. And there is much speculation about how many of those 26 interceptions were caused by missed blocks (ask Jaws).

3.) Julius Peppers— You gotta get pressure on he opposing team’s QB. Period! You can’t expect to win football games and not have any pressure on the QB. Enter Peppers who has made a living off of doing just that in Carolina. And now he is being tasked to do that for the Chicago Bears, who haven’t had a consistent pass rusher of his type in some time. He’s got to show up big in 2010 in order for the Bears to have success. Consider the fact that Adawale and A.Brown would give you 10+ sacks (12?) on average a season— if Peppers gets anything less than 10 he will be considered a failure by most Chicago sports analysts.

4.) Zack Bowman— The Bears have not had a solid corner in years (arguably 2006?). The pass defense has been horrid and not just because there is a less than stellar DL over the past 3 years. It’s also because the secondary has been subpar to horrible as well. 40 year old Gus Frerotte and a spurned Brian Griese among countless others has been able to find receivers for over 300+ yds in the past 3 seasons. Also, teams used countless formations to offset pressure from the front 7 to give the receiver in an extra moment to get free from the CBs (i.e.— shotguns, hurry-ups). If Bowman can give the Bears some competency at the CB position against the opposing teams no. 1 option, we should see less 300 yd games and more turnovers.

5. Earl Bennett— I say Bennett over Hester, because I think Hester will be more of the X-factor on offense than the no. 1 option. Bennett was the receiver Cutler found when he needed a big play or a 3rd down conversion. I think Hester and D.Aromashodu will have good seasons and be big parts of a Martz offense (for various reasons), but I thin Bennett will be the go-to receiver in 2010 and will have to step up to the next level for Cutler and the offense to be successful.

6. Matt Forte— Forte was Angelo’s 2nd round pick and entering his 3rd season in an offense that uses the RB in various ways; including straight out of the backfield into a deep route. I think that he has to step up and provide that consistent yardage whether it be from the run or the catch. He will be the safety outlet in an offense that will see more mid-to-deep patterns that take time to develop.

7. Brian Urlacher— His leadership on defense is undeniable as its a HUGE drop off in offensive recognition when he is not in the huddle. I think having him back leading the huddle will provide the fire and experience that they were missing in 2009.

8. Olin Kreutz— Given the fact that he is the traffic-controller of the offensive line (as the Center), also given that the NFC North has some of the best DTs in the league in Suh, Raji, and the Williams Wall… And, also, given that Kreutz has been hobbled for the past two seasons I think Kreutz is a big part of the success of this OL.

9. Lance Briggs— I always wonder what would the Bears be without Briggs consistent play on the weak side? He’s a consistent tackler and he provides some of the best pass coverage from the LB position in the NFL. He’ll be playing underneath Charles Tillman this year who will probably have Chris Harris over the top of him. The coverage that should come from the combination of that 3 should make that side of the football field pretty well covered if all things remain consistent (i.e.- no injuries to any).

10. Tommie Harris— The Bear have to get some kind of secondary force from the DL after Julius Peppers. Peppers will get the best opposing OL and will get doubled and chipped at every twist and turn. THat means there will be plenty opportunities for Harris, Harrison, and Anderson to get one-on-one coverage against opponents. They have to get into the backfield in a division that will be more passing than running given the offensive weapons and schemes.

Have at it. haha!

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Aug 3, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

solid!

But no Gould????

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 3, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I gotta go Martz

His offense will make or break this team this year. Whatever tweak of his scheme he implements will be huge. I think the scheme and play calling will be huge as well will the adjustment and learning curve for the entire O. That is why I would put Martz over Cutler, it will be the whole offense, not just the main player.

Add in Martz’s scheme is notorious for high picks and sack numbers and there might not be much Cutler can do if the OL does not gel.

The D should be solid (bearing injury…knock knock on wood).

by TheMan1 on Aug 3, 2010 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Cutler is definitely #1

The O-line may be more important as a whole, but Cutler is the most important individual.

by DaHamsta on Aug 3, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Harris, no doubt here.

If Cutler goes down, we just become the same team we were 2 years ago with Hanie filling in for Neckbeard. If Martz is as good of an offensive coordinator as everybody says he is (and I believe he is), he will install an offensive scheme that plays to Hanie’s strengths.

On the defense, though, we’ve currently only got one “sure thing” on that line. That’s Peppers. The Anderson/Izzy roulette can only end up badly, and I’ve still got no idea who’s lining up at the second DT spot. Harris will need to have a career year in order for the Bears defense to function correctly. By that, I mean few-to-no blitzes, using the LBs in pass coverage and limiting running opportunities. Urlacher’s the brains of this defense. Harris is its motor. He doesn’t play well, the defense will not even approach good. Not with the roulette wheel in the secondary or the question marks at the DT and DE positions.

If we still had Alex Brown, I’d say 1 Cutler, 2 Urlacher, 3 Peppers, 4 Harris. But we don’t have Brown. So Harris automatically jumps to 1.

by Doshi on Aug 3, 2010 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Most Important Bears

Cutler is the most important Bear….If he goes down, our backups combined have a total of 7 attempts passing in league games. However, I do think Caleb Hanie will get better w/more experience, but he’s not ready to step in just yet.

by walterfan34 on Aug 3, 2010 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Jay Cutler

The success or failure of this team rides on his arm. If he has a crappy season he may never recover and the house cleaning will begin. Unless Caleb Hanie is the next Kurt Warner the most important Bear is #6.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Aug 3, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

The Extrapolation Sensation... outstanding Wilt.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Aug 4, 2010 3:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks!

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tommie by far

I am thinking he is a second thought to alot of people but if he is as healthy as they say he is then damn no qb is safe.

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by chi-town on Aug 4, 2010 6:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Izzie of course,

though I may have a different perspective.

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 4, 2010 12:34 PM CDT reply actions  

THE LINES!

this team will be made or broken on the lines. Did they do enough? ehhhhhhhh, we’ll see.

by celerysalt on Aug 5, 2010 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I'll never put an entire poition group on my list

It’s to keep the integrity of the list intact…

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 6, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed.....

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 7, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

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